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Linuxworld Expo Wrapup
I was at the Expo on Thursday and Friday. Some of my impressions of the conference:
It's getting more business-y and less geeky every year. There are a lot of reasons for that, and it isn't all bad, but it's still vaguely sad to see.
HP and IBM accounted for about half the floor space - seriously. The Expo promoters must have played the two companies off against each other as far as conference participation went, and besides the large areas devoted to these companies, there were other large sections that were intended to represent an average company solving all its problems with Linux - these areas were jointly sponsored by HP, IBM and the other big companies at Linuxworld. It was - quite - as if the entire conference was owned by IBM and HP, but it was pretty close.
There was virtually no BSD presence. I think I saw some NetBSD people - that was it.
The .org pavilion is still going strong - while the rest of the conference is getting more business-oriented (fewer engineers and more salesdrones), the non-profit free and open source software area is still sizable and well-attended.
There were fewer "check out our neat new hardware gadget running Linux" booths and more "buy an expensive rack server running Linux from us" booths.
Linux.conf.au sucked a fair number of the geekiest attendees away from LWCE. Okay, the Australian conference is a lot smaller, but it's still dumb to schedule them simultaneously.
...awghae
plz post them, thx
It is more of a trend with Expos to get commericalized rather than development. On the other hand, the conventions have remained relatively similar as places to develop ideas ...
At other tradeshows you get boothbabes, at Linuxworld, you get pics of a Dance Dance Revolution gamepad and a couple shots of guys getting a massage... piss poor!
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Why did /. not post a story about it before!
on the subject of open-source in government, check out http://www.osw.ca we had a fun time yesterday, although there were some people thier set on disrupting our bsd booth, apparently the guy who owns the unix trademark also owns everything that looks/operates/feels like unix, yeah right...
And so is ROBLIMIO.
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The Backrub Booth! This was the BEST part of the whole show! For $15 I got an amazing backrub by a woman named Ebony
Ebony!! Fucker thats my wife!!
#3 pencils and quadrille pads.
No presence from BSD??? Well no shit, guess what, BSD isn't another linux distro, they are in fact their own operating systems, that they only thing they have in common with linux is some of the same software runs on both systems. BSD does not "sellout" and doesn't have a buncha weirdo zealots running around claiming it is going to replace windows.
As far as expo's go, they're a good thing, but they only help to get the word out, not much more. Most everything covered at the expo was already known facts that were resaid to the public.
Ignore the "p2p is theft" trolls, they're just uninformed
Yeah....but how many laptops did he steal from Bruce Perens?
Bugs are just features that have been fixed.
What a fucking joke. I've been reading this tripe for the past week. This writing here, the aforementioned tripe, that is how ass kissers write. People who fawn and masturbate over the idea of getting press credentials for a place that's just a little over their head.
Does this answer any of the 5 Ws? Not a one. It tells me nothing. Great, two super fucking massive companies, HP and IBM swallowed the convention space. And this means what? What the fuck are they selling? Dildoes? Handmade soap? Consumer shit? Server blades? Slaves? Chicken fat?
And what the fuck is this following paragraph?
"How to get the best swag"
Was Miller there to actually work, or just collect free shit and brag about it?
I recognize that not everyone lives by my "carry nothing" trade show rule.
And I too recognize that not everyone realizes that people are not the least bit interested in the hokey personal anecdotes of free fucking mousepads.
For those of you who like to collect show goodies, I think the best way to get them is to see what other people are carrying, and if you spot someone carrying an interesting item, immediately ask them where they got it, then immediately try to go get one of the things for yourself.
Wow. I'm speechless. What insight. So the best thing to do is speak to other people?
The best stuff tends to run out early, so perhaps you should spend the first day of the show hunting swag, and the remaining time trying to learn.
Unfuckingbelieveable.
And this, this paragraph. This sickens me. Fucking ill.
As a journalist, easily recognizable as one because my badge said "MEDIA" on it, I could have collected all the swag I wanted, no problem. But I didn't. I was there to work, and running all over the place, and I didn't want to be encumbered by a bag full of anything. I have been to plenty of trade shows over the years, and I have collected enough t-shirts, caps, key chain flashlights, stuffed Tux dolls, and other goodies to last a lifetime. We won't even talk about the expensively-printed "media kits" exhibitors try to shove into the hands of unwary reporters. I could have ended up carrying 20 pounds of paper, all containing information easily available from the companies' Web sites. So no thanks, I do not want giveaways or media kits. I am happy to have nothing in my hands besides a pen and note pad. I am at the show to make contact with people I can later call when I need information for stories, not to be a pack horse.
You have got to be fucking joking. This guy labels himself a 'journalist'? I could gut a goat, stick a media badge on it, but does that make it a journlist? Where's the fucking insight? What has Miller provided except sophomoric anecdotes? A fucking angel food cake sitting on the conference floor would have provided more insight than this drivel. Horrid.
Here's the fundamental tenets of journalism: tell people who weren't there something significant that they otherwise wouldn't ever have known. It is not an rambling blog. This isn't journalism any more than a 6th graders report on the natual history museum is journalism. It's a rambling monologue devoid of content.
This has fucking disgraced journalism. The bush league fucking amateur night bullshit that passes for 'e-journalism' anymore is so fucking pedantic and trite as to redefine the benchmark for stupidity.
Anyone been lynched by penguins at LinuxWorld?
So what about the ask slashdot answers, Roblimo?
Wasn't XFree86 4.3.0 supposed to out at he expo? I know it's close, but could somebody on the 'inside' let us know about where in the release process you are?
The XFree86 website is intentionally cryptic about such plans to keep people like me from -expecting- it on such-and-such a date.
Let's hear from people in the know!
"Sometimes, I think Trent just needs a cup of hot chocolate and a blankie." -Tori Amos on Nine Inch Nails
does it still suck as bad as it did last year? How can I resize a window without it taking up the whole screen without revealing the 'close' widget?
Thanks, I'll stay with CDE on Solaris for now.
what would it be for the next year?
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quote:port 17 udp
About the same as the number of *BSDers ;)
We don't need mansions or yachts to feel good about ourselves. Maybe one reason we don't need money as much as some people is that we save a bunch by using Free and/or Open Source software...
On the other hand, I don't need a vow of poverty to feel good about myself. Man, overcompensating a little about your apparently humble existence? Nothing wrong with that, of course, but throwing your "less rich than thou" attitude in people's faces is just as bad as throwing financial success in people's face.
Just for the record, the amount of money you earn -- either a huge amount or a small amount -- is absolutely no direct measurement of one's character. Apparently Miller believes it is.
Sometimes it's best to just let stupid people be stupid.
Fact: BSD is dying!
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-Mark
I'm wondering if there's anyone who attends these things who comes dressed as a M$ Borg.
...you are a faggot if you try to start a new troll?
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Linux World Expo must have been a cool party.
Have you seen the TV commercial for Tidy Cats cat litter with the cats that say "something stinks.. and it's not the litter box"? My girlfriend and I have a long-running feud about this commercial. We need unbiased third-party to help resolve this issue.
The commercial begins with Cat 1 (who thinks he is alone in the kitchen) talking smack about how he is glad Cat 2 and 3 are gone. Then two women come home and one says "with this new litter, you can't even tell there are multiple cats." The Tidy Cats litter bag falls over to reveal Cat 2 and 3! Cat 2 says "something stinks!" and Cat 3 (in a Sean Connery voice) says "and it's not the litter box!" Then the camera cuts to show the response of Cat 1.
If you have seen this commercial, can you please describe your interpretation of the expression of Cat 1 after he has been discovered talking smack? If you have not seen this commercial, please watch for it and pay close attention to the last scene!
This summer there is DebConf coming up in Oslo, Norway for those of you who are interrested. 4-5 days before the conf. there will be a DebCamp, where you can sit outside in your tent, have a hot dog and talk with fellow Debian geeks. More information at:
here and
here
Note to self: get smarter troll to guard door.
NetBSD was in fact the only BSD at LW03 in New York. A short review is available online. Considering that we were stuck way in the depth of the .org pavillon, it was still quite a success, with many interested people stopping by.
-- "Tradition is the illusion of permanence."
NetBSD did have a booth there. Check out the info over here. My favorite quote is:
Interest in the NetBSD Project was certainly high, and we received numerous curious questions, ranging from the unavoidable ``So, ugh, what kernel version does your distribution include? 2.4?''
Uncle Fester was at Linuxworld and runs Linux!
Kindness is the language which the deaf can hear and the blind can see. - Mark Twain
And when they did was it a case of "Look there is a free tux coffee mug on the floor", followed by the sound of wood on the back of a skull.
I've ogg'ed ExtremeTechs interviews and put them up here for a while.
Nothing fantastic but it's nice to hear people talking about things rather than reading it.
Morons gave MS an award. This now validates MS as company that plays nice with OpenSource and Linux. This of course is false as we all know MS is doing its best to destroy linux and every linux company. Someone there pointed out how MS is distributing GPL software with their kit. This fact means jack no matter how ironic it is. What does mean jack is that MS will with its billion dollar marketing budget will turn this award to their advantage in their quest to ruin linux.
I see the trend here lately is to bash people who bash MS. Well maybe sometimes that's called for. Let's not forget the facts though, Microsoft is literally trying to wipe linux from the face of the earth.(I'd like to see someone argue with that fact) This award will only help them in that endevor, thus I think my calling them morons is in this case justified.
BTW incase anyone notices, I posted something similar at the newsforge site but it might not show up , so I reposted here.
If you wanna get rich, you know that payback is a bitch
Hmm so linux.conf.au took all the smart geeks? oh boo-hoo. Perhaps these geeks are more interested in meeting talking with other programmers and geeks, than they are in dealing with PHBs and other people in suits.
;) The rest of the conference, I saw only about one or two people with ties on. Everyone else was hanging around in shorts and a tshirt. Business-like? No way. Fun, useful? Oh yes :) IBM was a sponsor, with a lot of the ozlabs staff there, and Sun provided some LX50s, but aside from that, the commercial presence was tiny.
There was a LCA dinner.. one person wore a suit, and he was a lawyer, so no-one complained
If I had my choice again, I still would have gone to LCA.
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Am i the only one self-absorbed enough to be rifling through every online photo of LWE I can find to see if I'm in a picture?
...i am?
(mumbles) if I find one, I promise I'm posting it here.
--T.
Angry IT woman in big clompy boots. And talking lint!.
i went and it was ok...usual nonsense but i made this mpg (it is crooked and i am too lazy to fix) that explains it all...
hehe
http://angrybit.com/random/linux-hacker.mpg
As an organiser of the now-past linux.conf.au. I can say, Yes it was stupid to have them scheduled at the same time. We had our conference scheduled quite a bit of time in advance of LinuxWorld, but LinuxWorld was scheduled at the same time anyway.
It cost us getting Maddog Hall, and it cost LinuxWorld a lot of very cool people, but you can find out about them on your own.
Now that the linux hype is dying, perhaps it's time to start a new one. I think we should start promoting BSD now.
You have 182 (or more http://www.ldl.cx/) Linux forks out there. If you say FreeBSD/NetBSD/OpenBSD/Darwin (MacOSX is the same thing, just lickable)/BSDi are the BSD versions, that means 20% of the BSD's showed.
Where there 40 Linux forkes being pushed by their vendors? What %age of total linux versions showed?
When you buy regular commericial software. Where do you think the companies get money for the models/ex-playmates? From you buying their software, of course.
I would just take that same cash and get a site membership. Lots more value that way, ya know?
Instead of fighting the slashdot bloat by posting fewer stories...
YOU THINK YOU NEED TO START yet another slashdot article ON YOUR STUPID ANSWERS.
Thanks, Rob-lim-bone
I died laughing! :D
I didn't see here.
Damn, I have a curse*erm*crush on that red devil!