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Blacker Than Black

An anonymous reader writes "British scientists at the National Physical Laboratory in London have invented the darkest material on Earth. 'It could revolutionise optical instruments because it reflects 10 to 20 times less light than the black paint currently used to reduce unwanted reflections. The key to the nickel and phosphorous coating's blackness is that its surface is pitted with microscopic craters.' Wonder how effective it would be as a solar heating surface ?"

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  1. Solar heating! by keller · · Score: 5, Funny
    Wonder how effective it would be as a solar heating surface ?

    I would say that the solar surface is hot enough as it is!

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  2. And with one fell swoop.... by CHUD-Wretch · · Score: 5, Funny

    Goths just got scarier. "Black as night, faster than a shadow" -Judas Priest- "Hell Bent For Leather"

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  3. How much more black could it be? by gibber · · Score: 5, Funny

    None.

    None more black.

  4. Spinal Tap's next album by micromoog · · Score: 5, Funny

    NIGEL: I think he's right, there is something about this, that's that's so black, it's like; "How much more black could this be?" and the answer is: "None, none... more black."

    1. Re:Spinal Tap's next album by jellomizer · · Score: 5, Funny

      Why not Mod this up to 5 and make 5 harder to get to?

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  5. Absorb or absorb not, there is no reflect by nusuth · · Score: 5, Informative

    The light that is neither transmitted nor reflected is absorbed. If it is totally opaque too it has to be also a good solar heating surface. That said, one might be a very good absorber at particular wavelengths, but transparent or reflective at others. The cavities should act as a blackbody and operate at a wide range of frequencies though.

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  6. Re:Wonderment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wonder how effective it would be as a solar heating surface ?

    It wouldn't make much difference, because changing from absorbing 97.5% of the sunlight to 99.65% isn't going to change the economics of your solar collector much.

    However if you are building a telescope and you want to reduce the stray reflections, going from reflecting 2.5% to reflecting 0.35% is a huge improvement

  7. Re:The name by cHALiTO · · Score: 5, Funny

    Darkenite!

    we could even go around saying it affects superheroes or something.

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  8. amature astronomy by Njerd · · Score: 5, Informative

    I would love to see this used to coat the vanes that support the secondary mirrors of reflector type telescopes. Diffraction spikes (the little spikes on relatively bright stars) are really the reflection of light on these little supports. If you are into photographing nebulae, having a bright star in view can be a real photo killer.

  9. Martin Black by mikeselectricstuff · · Score: 5, Informative

    The book 'The Hubble Wars' mentions a coating called 'Martin Black' developed by Lockheed-Martin for use in spy satellites - I wonder how this stuff compares. I found some info Here : The 'Martin Black' is not a paint at all, but a specially etched aluminum surface that acts like an anechoic chamber on a microscopic scale. The surface looks like an array of very steep pyramids a few wavelengths of light apart. It's extremely fragile & expensive to produce, but was never a classified process. Mostly used in aerospace optical hardware such as star trackers & imaging systems that have to work in direct sunlight. Ball Aerospace has a version of this process. It's considered to be a 'proprietary' process, ie they won't tell you how it's done for commercial reasons.

  10. A Tad more detail by dmontreuil · · Score: 5, Informative

    There's a little more detail and a few pictures at http://www.npl.co.uk/optical_radiation/superblack. html

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  11. Mom! Dad! by Degobah · · Score: 5, Funny

    Don't Touch It! It's Evil!

  12. There are going to be some happy goths! by RHIC · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, now all those people wearing t-shirts saying "I'm only wearing black until they invent something darker" will be very happy! Any idea as to when we'll be able to get it in t-shirt form?

  13. Mirror by Andy_R · · Score: 5, Funny

    Pictures are mirrored here: dev/null

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  14. Materials Science by JumpingBull · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This will prove to be useful, for two reasons:

    First, it is a better absorber then what we have now, which, as someone pointed out, would make an incremental improvement for things such as solar collectors.

    Second, it may find some powerful uses as a black body emitter, which would have some applications for cooling. Specifically, there is a window in the atmosphere where energy can leave the atmosphere ( around one of the IR ammonia lines, IIRC) this may alleviate the greenhouse effect ... maybe ...

    As one of my Professors used to say "Progress is measured by progress in Materials Science". He might have been biased, however...

    I would be very interested to find out the wavelengths where this is effective.

    There are three types of reflectance that I am aware of: mirrors; diffuse reflectors (lambertian surfaces) and a special case of reflectance as found on a dusty surface, such as the moon( which is an aggragation of spherical lambertian surfaces, with special properties). Anyone else know of any others?

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  15. How Black Is It? by Greyfox · · Score: 5, Funny

    Blacker than the mood of a web master who just found out that his page was posted on slashdot.

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  16. Here's a picture of it by Conspiracy_Of_Doves · · Score: 5, Funny