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Arrested for Planting Spyware on College Compus

AndrewM1 writes "In what may serve as a cautionary tale for people who use computers in public areas, Douglas Boudreau allegedly installed keystroke-monitoring software on more than 100 computers at Boston College and then watched as thousands of people sent e-mail, downloaded files and banked online. He then stole $2000 with the information he gleamed."

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  1. But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Information wants to be free! I don't see that he did anything wrong. GNU forever!

  2. MIT by cristofer8 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Which is exactly why you shouldn't use single user windows systems. MIT has athena, a huge unix-based system. There's no way (barring finding the root password) for me to do this to any user other than myself.

    1. Re:MIT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Which is exactly why you shouldn't use single user windows systems. MIT has athena, a huge unix-based system. There's no way (barring finding the root password) for me to do this to any user other than myself.

      Or exploiting a compromise. Granted at MIT they are more likely to catch you than at other places, but don't think that passwords make you immune to buffer overflow and other attacks.
    2. Re:MIT by Edmund+Blackadder · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well if the MIT networks are at least partially hubbed, which they probably are you can use a packet sniffer.

      A packet sniffer will get you some juicy info ... even though it can be thwarted with public key encryption, i think.

    3. Re:MIT by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Any workstation that is pysically accessible to the public is subject to reprogrammning so that it emulates its original behavior plus logs keystrokes. Unless you're using honest-to-goodness dumb terminals with non-flashable ROMs, I wouldn't be so confident.

    4. Re:MIT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Nonsense. I can easily hack into a UNIX system without nothing more than a floppy disk and the power switch.

      The real thing to remember is to never, ever, ever use a public system. That is the most sure way to give up all privacy. Even if there isn't a 3rd party breaking into and modifying the public machines, the true administrator of the machine might have all sorts of logging software.

      Even if you use something like SSH or SSL, that only products you between the two endpoints. When one of the end-points (the client you are using, in thise case) is insecure, a secured data tunnel is worthless. Indeed, your keys/passwords/etc. can be stolen quite easily.

      If you need to compute on the run, get a laptop that you are in control of. Don't use someone else's machine to conduct sensitive business or utilize sensitive information.

    5. Re:MIT by jd142 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So how do you make a public machine, where random people can come in off the street a multi-user system? Think of people who go to a library to work on the web because they don't have a computer at home.

      The problem isn't inherent in single user windows systems, it's quite simple to lock down a windows machine to prevent easy installation of this kind of program, the problem is lack of security protocols on the tech end.

    6. Re:MIT by jd142 · · Score: 4, Informative

      I can easily hack into a UNIX system without nothing more than a floppy disk and the power switch.

      Prevent booting from a floppy, password protect the bios and lock the case. Makes it much harder.

      You could still do it, but the odds are that someone would notice that you were literally hacking in to the computer so you could set the dip switch on the motherboard to blank out the bios password.

      And it should be obvious to the techs who do maintenance that someone has sawed through their lock.

    7. Re:MIT by myrashka · · Score: 3, Funny

      Oh come on - MIT is a hacker training ground...so people hack the MIT systems all the time...not getting caught is the final exam!)

    8. Re:MIT by anon*127.0.0.1 · · Score: 3, Informative

      And of course it wouldn't be hard at all to drop a hardware key logger like this on a system, do something to hose up the software, then call tech support.

      Odds are if it's a pure software problem the tech will never look at the back of the machine. Once he's fixed the problem and wandered off, you can retrieve the keystroke monitor and you probably have the admin account name and password.

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    9. Re:MIT by Gudlyf · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Or even easier, this.

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    10. Re:MIT by nutznboltz · · Score: 2, Insightful
      The real thing to remember is to never, ever, ever use a public system. That is the most sure way to give up all privacy.


      But under certain circumstances anonymity is privacy so some behaviours on a public machine are more private than on personal machines. If you provide nothing but false data about your identity on a public machine (i.e. don't access anything that is connected to your true identity) you can post messages that have high plausibility of denial ("I don't know anything about that post".)

    11. Re:MIT by RainbowSix · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Don't feel so secure. Here at CMU a long time ago someone stole passwords like this:

      When he "logged out" he didn't really log out but he put up a fake password prompt. The next person would log in, but it would say "password incorrect," store the password, log the original guy out, and show the real login prompt.

      Don't think you're safe on a multiuser system either.

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    12. Re:MIT by coolmacdude · · Score: 2, Interesting

      No you cannot use a packet sniffer. I'm sure MIT has made this impossible. Here at Georgia Tech OIT encrypts all packets by destination MAC address so only the intended recipient can view them.

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    13. Re:MIT by Bastian · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Add built-in keyboards to the mix.

      Although these mainly exist for ps/2 keyboards, there are hardware keystroke loggers that plug in between the keyboard and the USB port and are designed to look nonconspicuous.

    14. Re:MIT by Rolo+Tomasi · · Score: 4, Informative
      Bad idea. Many (most?) BIOSes have a manufacturer default password, which overrides the user password. Most mainboard manufacturers also don't bother changing it (you can view & change it for AWARD BIOSes with a program called modbin, which you will have to obtain illegally). You can also overwrite some of the CMOS RAM (takes about five lines of assembly), so the checksum will become invalid and the BIOS will load the setup defaults on the next boot. No more password.

      The BIOS password is useless. Furthermore, even if it weren't, if you install a hardware keylogger, you will get the password anyway. If you want to do it professionally, install the keylogger inside the keyboard's case.

      In short, if you have physical access to a machine, the possibilities of compromise (even non-invasive) are endless. And that's not even taking into account fake logins, trojans, OS & app exploits, etc. pp.

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    15. Re:MIT by stuuf · · Score: 2, Interesting
      The real thing to remember is to never, ever, ever use a public system. That is the most sure way to give up all privacy. Even if there isn't a 3rd party breaking into and modifying the public machines, the true administrator of the machine might have all sorts of logging software.

      My school library used to have about 20 workstations running windows 2000 hooked up to a Citrix Metaframe server (this year they just turned them into regular w2000 workstations you log on to, but with many security constraints). It didn't take long to figure out that the citrix client doesn't capture the windows key, allowing you to get the start menu of the local computer. One day, a friend and I were hacking around these things and got into the config dialog for the citrix client. There was a page with a bunch of logging options including log keystrokes, log bitmaps, log mouse actions. The school had never turned them on, and they probably wouldn't notice if we started logging keys and stealing hotmail passwords.

      One time, I wrote a little C++ builder program that could send and receive mouse instructions through a network connection. I installed it on several of the machines, then I could just start it up, connect to the machine next to me, click the send button, and the watch the kid freak out as his mouse started following mine. Or I could 'monitor' their mouse actions.

      They got rid of citrix before i was ablke to finish writing and deploy a network screen capture sending app.

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    16. Re:MIT by Reziac · · Score: 4, Informative

      Dunno how illegal modbin can be, when it's available for download from ZDNet (among 600+ other places that came up on the most cursory search).

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    17. Re:MIT by carsont · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Nonsense. I can easily hack into a UNIX system without nothing more than a floppy disk and the power switch.

      Not if the PROM is configured to require a password to boot from an alternate device, or to boot up at all.


      Even if you use something like SSH or SSL, that only products you between the two endpoints. When one of the end-points (the client you are using, in thise case) is insecure, a secured data tunnel is worthless. Indeed, your keys/passwords/etc. can be stolen quite easily.

      Or you can use a one-time password system like S/Key for authentication. That's what I do whenever it's necessary for me to log in to my machine at home from campus, anyway.


      Of course, this doesn't help you with email or website logins, but it's a step in the right direction.


      I doubt if we'll ever see online banking, webmail and so forth adopt more secure authentication mechanisms, but maybe after enough fiascos like this, universities and libraries might adopt a dumb terminals-and-smartcards approach (such as SunRays).

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    18. Re:MIT by borgasm · · Score: 2, Interesting

      At my school, our computers were locked down with something called WinGuard (this was a while ago). One of my friends created a fake program that mimiced WinGuard - the login prompt, and all the functions, because the EXE's were hidden from the regular user, but there were ways to access them. It was a spot-on match to the WinGuard GUI. Administrator types in password, program grabs, we check the log file.

      This worked nicely because our admins used the same password for everything. In no time we had access to servers, other workstations, etc.

      Did I mention how we also dissasembled the binary to find a backdoor password left by the original programmer?

    19. Re:MIT by Chester+K · · Score: 3, Informative

      When he "logged out" he didn't really log out but he put up a fake password prompt. The next person would log in, but it would say "password incorrect," store the password, log the original guy out, and show the real login prompt.

      Don't think you're safe on a multiuser system either.


      A Windows-based multiuser system would be safe from this sort of attack. Windows servers can be set to require the user to hit the system key combination, Ctrl-Alt-Del, before entering their login information. Ctrl-Alt-Del is not trappable in any fashion by any userspace program and can be set to always transfer control to the system. If you're on a Windows server and you hit Ctrl-Alt-Del, you can be absolutely sure that the window that pops up next is a legit system dialog.

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    20. Re:MIT by Blkdeath · · Score: 2, Insightful
      You can get hardware keyboard loggers. They go between the keyboard and the case. They're fairly cheap, and availiable to consumers.

      Pardon my ignorance, having never laid eyes on the public systems referenced at either University, but how open, exactly, are they?

      A few things come immediately to mind; why not encase the whole system, including keyboard connectors et al, in an external case? (Not a PC case, but an enveloping case that might even include the monitor) Also, why even have a floppy or CDROM drive attached? Makes securing the BIOS password a lot more pointless if you now have to cart around a set of lock-pick tools, a spare floppy drive and ribbon, and be able to perform surgery on the box while nobody's looking.

      If these truly are desktop machines, open and exposed to the world in all their glory, it seems to me as if they'd be the last machines I'd trust with my PIN, credit card, bank card, or any other personal details. Casual web surfing only, thankyouverymuch.

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    21. Re:MIT by Atzanteol · · Score: 2, Informative
      Now, making all the network links switched will eliminate you ability to sniff packets (save for WiFi) and render the encryption issue moot.
      Are you sure? Arp-poisoning can get around switches easily. Check out ettercap
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    22. Re:MIT by p0et · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Even with terminals, you could hack them! :)

      At my university, there were a few rooms with good old VT's, which allowed to change the key combination of how to switch the session. To login we used to do something like: rl -l login server, then it prompted us to enter the password.

      It was just a question of changing the switch session to Ctrl-J (that is, enter...), and voila! after the user entered the password, it was sent back to the login, with a background session running.

      Of course many of the people started to knew the trick, but still got many people unaware.

  3. They may be shared machines by Marqui · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But why weren't they locked down to prevent installations of software, etc?????? You would think that the admins should be on top of this. I know it's easier said than done, but it seems that someone should be watching this stuff!

    1. Re:They may be shared machines by tekunokurato · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You know, there's something to be said for allowing users some degree of freedom. It's quite easy to cut off all kinds of access, but networks that have users with a wide variety of needs and interests and who can generally trust their users shouldn't do so.

      At my school, we've got some computers in very public areas that are all full of restrictions, and people run into usability problems with them all the time. But on the computers in the library, users can install whatever they need. If I need to install a drawing program to help create a presentation, I should have the freedom to do so. If I want to install AIM to get files off my computer remotely or send myself information, I should be able to do this. These are important user rights in a computing age.

      As such, it is important to monitor what is being placed on computers, but it is foolish to restrict everything outright.

    2. Re:They may be shared machines by packetgeek · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This idea of letting users install "whatever they need" is how organizations get busted for licensing ifractions. Besides that, who says that the software a random user installs is stable and will play nice with the other software on the system? Should the people responsible for system uptime/availability be expected to spend precious resources scouring a facility for illegal software and fixing machines that were needlessly broken? IT departments are charged with providing the required services to all of the authorized users with as much efficiency to the users as a whole as possible. Not trapsing around after a small handfull of users who think the systems are their just for them.

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    3. Re:They may be shared machines by Tack · · Score: 4, Insightful
      You know, there's something to be said for allowing users some degree of freedom. It's quite easy to cut off all kinds of access, but networks that have users with a wide variety of needs and interests and who can generally trust their users shouldn't do so.

      A nice sentiment from someone who is obviously not a sysadmin of any non-trivial setup, or from someone who is fortunate enough not to be overworked and have plenty of time to do one's job.

      The problems with giving users free reign on public/lab systems are several. The biggest one is that letting users install whatever they want can leave behind god-knows-what, like spyware or trojans. Also, it's easily possible for installing a piece of software to break another, more important piece of software. When that happens, since I'm the admin, it's my job to fix it. Of course since I have so much free time and generally do nothing all day except post on slashdot, this isn't a problem, right?

      Another issue is licensing, and that's something most users, even ones competent enough to install software, don't take into consideration. They install their copy of Corel Office on the public/lab system because that's what they used at home to do their presentation or document, and suddenly there are legal implications to the organization servicing that computer.

      If it's your computer, that's an entirely different story. For example, Microsoft has no business mandating what can and can't be installed on your computer. But if the system is an asset of my organization under my administrative control, you better believe I'm going to lock it down. My job is to make it very easy for users to do authorized tasks, such as web browsing or word processing, and very difficult for users to do unauthorized tasks, like installing foreign software, or accessing/deleting data that's not their own.

      Jason.

  4. Happened Here Too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Happened at WPI a few years back. After taking an assembly class that showed him how to catch keyboard interrupts, he loaded a new interrupt handler that logged the keystroke and then called the real handler so that everything looked normal. He was caught, but I'm not sure what happened to him.

  5. What I find amazing: by prichardson · · Score: 4, Funny

    The guy only managed to steal $2000? This guy must be stupid.

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    1. Re:What I find amazing: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Everyone at Princeton. I've stolen bikes there worth more than $2000

  6. Nothing new... by shaklee · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There is a kid doing this at almost every school, most of the time it goes undetected. Three people at my highschool did the same thing and were suspended, no one knew what kind of information they obtained but it was going on for over a week.

    1. Re:Nothing new... by cervo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Back in high school for me they used novell so it was super easy. We forged a fake login screen and then called the real one, so after capturing a user name and password it would log it to a file on the C drive. Totally undetectable that it was any of us. We got a supervisor password and made life a living hell for our net admin. We gave random users supervisor rights and used their accounts based on other passwords we stole to have fun. Sometimes we would give group EVERYONE supervisor rights. People have been doing this kind of thing a long time. Our downfall was the net admin figured out one of the supervisor accounts of a guy who was fired was logging in, then set up a trap and boom caught us.

      This guy was clearly more enterprising in that he stole some money, but the question is why didn't he steal more money? And what is with this installing ready made programs, now it is too easy. In the past you had to make TSR's, forge login screens, alter commands and so fourth it was actually not hard but not every idiot could do it. Now you just go to a website and download a packet sniffer or keystroke recorder. It is too easy to do. And because it is too easy to do you'd think net admins would be more aware and capable.

      But then again all these compromised systems are non UNIX like. It is hard to compromise a UNIX system without root access. And joe public can't necessarily get his hands on root access or exploit a bug to steal it so at least UNIX is somewhat secure.

      Also from the tone of the article it sounds like the college thinks that maybe the prosecutor went too far. The college seems to be more forgiving. For example "Smith said, noting that Boudreau could have used it with far more devastating consequences. ". So the security consultant is pointing out he could have done worse. And so is the spokesman for the college 'While we are grateful to the attorney general's office for their assistance in this case, it's important to state that Mr. Boudreau gathered personal identification numbers on students but never misused them in any way," said Jack Dunn, a spokesman for the college.' At least the schools aren't blowing the case out of proportion like the prosecutor is. Although he did steal $2000 so he shouldn't walk. It's one thing just to login and play pranks, but it is quite another to steal money or do other things.

  7. This software... by Chicane-UK · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This kind of software causes a real headache for system admins.. I speak from personal experience. Our team of about 12 technicians look after approximately 1500 workstations, and about 2/3 of those are used by a theoretical maximum of about 6000 students on a weekly basis.

    Trying to keep tabs on this kind of thing can be nigh on impossible.

    We have found some software that does work pretty well though - a company called Fortres Grand sell a package for Win9x/Me/2k/XP called Clean Slate that basically resets the machine to a previous state every time it is rebooted. If you wish to add software, you disable it, and put it back on once the software is installed. The machine then works from that 'save point'.

    We try not to make machines 'too tied down' for students (like blocking downloading, any changes at all) so this software is ideal and not too intrusive.

    No, I dont work for Fortres Grand but thought it seemed appropriate to the subject! :)

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    1. Re:This software... by Cirvam · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why not just lock the user from writing to most of the hardrive but allow them acess to a temp folder or a network drive where they can install stuff and save stuff. Then when a new user logs in just have a login script wipe the local directory and connect to the new users's network drive? Otherwise students could install stuff like back orface or sub7 and screw with the computer until it is rebooted. I don't know exactly how well Clean Slate works, but it seems that XP has all that built in (doesn't it even allow you to rollback to a previous setup?) although if its anything like their desktop lockdown program its pretty easy to bypass.

    2. Re:This software... by Sgs-Cruz · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Oh yes, at our school board (Halton School Board in Ontario) we use software called Deep Freeze. Which worked great (people would download and install MSN, mIRC, Quake II, etc. and it would disappear next time the computer was turned on) until some of the computer-oriented kids used a miniscule (literally, asking a teacher that didn't know much about the system) to get the Deep Freeze password.

      We then had every computer in the school getting installed with many games and chat programs every time the computer got turned on. Not only that, the password was changed so the teachers couldn't change it back.

      My point is this: perfect physical security is nothing without dedication by the humans that have to use it.

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    3. Re:This software... by sheetsda · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Many years ago my high school used a Fortres product (may or may not have been the one you're talking about but the idea sounds the same). It worked well enough for keeping the majority of average high school students out of trouble but the lab techs had no problem hacking through it. At one point there was an old system with Fortres on it which no one knew the password to, and so the lab techs were asked to take Fortres down so the machine could be updated and so forth. We succeeded in minutes, and consequently I've been skeptical of the usefulness of products like this one ever since.

  8. This reminds me of a PM I had one time by RodeoBoy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    He was part of a Internet backing project for a large European bank. This bank was one of the first to offer services over the Internet. He always used cash and did all of his banking with a real live teller. He didn't have any credit or banking cards. I think that says a lot.

    I have been doing Internet based development exclusively for four plus years. I still do not use Internet banking. People are so willing to jump to use any service that makes thing easy without thinking about any potential consequences.

    I think I have to find a new job, because I think people are too stupid to use computers. Sad but true.

    1. Re:This reminds me of a PM I had one time by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Hmm... that PM (I am guessing: project manager) sounds like a paranoid luddite to me... which isn't to say that one should not be careful. But the few stories one hears of people having their money stolen because of credit card or Internet banking fraud dwindle beside the millions upon millions of happy users of these services. And the cases in which the defrauded users haven't had their money restored to them in the end are even fewer.

      Cash has its drawbacks too, and it's not just the waiting in line to withdraw or deposit money. Ever gotten a counterfit bill as payment, or as change in a supermarket or bar? Good luck convincing anyone that they were the ones to hand you that particular bill.

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  9. Re:Actually... by Glonoinha · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Actually I was with the guy right up until he turned to the dark side and used the information to steal. I think the penalty for 'liberation of information' or white hat hacking should be pretty thin, but the minute someone steps over the line and does something bad with that information we lop off a hand (like they do in ?Muslim countries for stealing?) I figure that losing a hand is a pretty good way to keep someone from becoming a repeat offender (pretty difficult to work a computer if you lose both hands) and THAT will serve as a pretty strong warning to others.

    Two thousand dollars will buy you a lot of McBurgers, but won't buy you another hand (even in Chiba City.)

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  10. Cut and paste your passwords by yog · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Never type a password on a public computer. Instead, cut and paste the characters from the screen using the mouse only. Of course, the problem is you have to have every letter and character displayed somewhere. You could browse to a site like this and paste character by character. It's slow but better than having your identity stolen.

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    1. Re:Cut and paste your passwords by Gudlyf · · Score: 2, Informative

      You can do this using FPM.

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    2. Re:Cut and paste your passwords by Coolfish · · Score: 4, Informative

      most keystroke monitors also store everything you copy to the "clipboard" in Windows.

      thank you, try again.

  11. The truly scary thing ... by dougmc · · Score: 2, Interesting
    The truly scary thing about all of this is this :

    You only need to install your sniffers on a few boxes to get plenty of good credit card numbers and passwords and such. And if it's installed on only a few boxes, it would (unless they were specifically looking for this) be very hard to detect if done correctly.

    And then if you're careful about the credit cards that you use (i.e. use only one or two, or only those that have bought stuff from a given site, etc.) they won't even suspect that people are sniffing at this one site. (If you use every credit card you find, the credit card companies will figure it out pretty quick by finding out what's in common with all the cards in question.)

    In short, for every guy who's caught, there's probably dozens of guys who aren't caught.

    Be afraid. Or, more importantly, be careful.

  12. Crime is Crime not computer crime by Dragon218 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The title to this article is not really accurate in this case. The person who was arrested stole $2000. He was arrested for that (or should have been). The keylogging software in this case was just the means to commit the crime. It shouldn't be illegal to install keylogging software (unless he's breaking the user agreement by installing software on that computer, etc.). To say he was "arrested for installing keylogging software" to represent theft could be compared to saying a murderer was "arrested for buying a gun and ammo."

    Using a computer to commit a crime is no different than just commiting the crime. There should be no elevated charge just because he used a computer and software instead of a forged check or stolen credit card.

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  13. suspended? by myrashka · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Boudreau, who faces up to 20 years in prison if convicted on all charges, was not immediately available for comment. Boston College said it suspended Boudreau, 21, last year once it learned of his scheme. Suspended? Do they think he'll continue his education in 20 years? How is it he's been suspended for a year and only now their just indicting him....gotta love the speed of justice. I spose they can't expell him until he's convicted (innocent till proven guilty and all)... So, do you think he had all the keystroke logs sent to his main email acct?

  14. Re:This software... -- is worse than useless by plsuh · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is still not adequate -- and is (in some ways) worse than nothing. Having managed a lab of student computers back when I was a grad student, often times people will simply sit down at an otherwise unused computer and start typing in URL's. If the attacker installs the software (not requiring a reboot) on a machine and walks away, the next user and any other users who use it without a reboot will still be vulnerable. The keystrokes can be recorded by sending them to an SMTP relay or open FTP server.

    This is worse than nothing because if the machine is rebooted then you have just lost any chance at doing forensics on the attack.

    There are far better solutions available. First, do NOT allow user software installations -- this should be a part of the TOS for such a lab. This in turn allows you to lock down the machines very tightly. Downloads can still be allowed to a user's network account or floppy or zip disk or USB keychain device.

    In a managed environment such as a university, require students to log in to computers with campus-wide accounts. Win2k and XP, Mac OS X, and most unices support Kerberos logins, which are becoming widespread on campuses. This gives students their own home dirs automatically, with saved prefs, etc. It also allows much easier forensics on attacks as well. If you want to allow public access, post a public login to an account that has zero privileges on the wall of the lab.

    By going this route, you can then use netbooted machines without internal hard disks, vastly simplifying maintenance and system administration. Netbooting is not always easy to set up, but the payoff is well worth it in such lab environments.

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  15. Re:Actually... by palindrome · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yes, I agree.
    Maybe we should all have spyware installed on our machines so that all of our information can be "liberated".

  16. He would have gotten away with it too by RomikQ · · Score: 4, Funny

    If it wasn't for those meddling kids!

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  17. Re:Actually... by anon*127.0.0.1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Absolutely. I think I'll build a few bombs in my garage, maybe brew up some anthrax or smallpox virus. Hey, as long as I don't do anything with them, the penalty shouldnt' be too severe... right?

    Where do I go to get my white hat?

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  18. Food for thought: by Hubert_Shrump · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If it's a x86 box (does any other manufacturer use the PS/2 keyboard cord?), all you need is one of these babies. That'll catch the BIOS password (when/if it gets typed in) and all.

    Ouch.

    Of course, to do it right you'd probably need to power-cycle the machine (hate to fry the mobo while doing this...). Maybe try to get one right next to yours -- bump the power cord out of it...

    But we're just talking here, aren't we friend?

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    1. Re:Food for thought: by jmauro · · Score: 2, Informative

      You can lock access to the bios without preventing the computer from booting. And one can have a different password for booting and for changine the bios options. I doubt you'd be able to insert the device and get someone then editing the bios password to change options in any case.

    2. Re:Food for thought: by kasperd · · Score: 2, Informative

      does any other manufacturer use the PS/2 keyboard cord?

      AFAIK it is possible to use PS/2 keyboards on some Amiga models. And our NCD boxes (X-terminals) also use PS/2 keyboard and mouse. One of our happens to have a PS/2 keyboard from SGI, though I don't know if that one is identical to the keyboards connected to the SGI. I have noticed one functional difference on the keybards connected to the SGI though they look exactly like a standard PC keyboard. The software can see when the Pause/Break key is released, normally a PS/2 keyboard sends the key release code for that key already when it is being pressed.

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  19. Re:Don't quit your day job by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ever consider the possibility that he got snagged for only 2 grand but actually got away with more?

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  20. Re:wonderful! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    yep! you can't get any more inconspicuous than a BRIGHT MAGENTA page with "Copy and paste into password forms:" in a 24 size bold font!

  21. Exaggeration by KIondike · · Score: 2, Informative
    The claims of stealing $2000 and other crimes are exaggerated. The story reported at CNet:

    According to the attorney general's office, Boudreau began to install key-logging software around April 2002 and used intercepted information to add money to a stored-value card used in the campus dining and bookstore system. Boudreau is not, however, accused of misusing credit card numbers or profiting from selling any private information he allegedly gleaned.
    A person at Boston College with knowledge of the situation said the attorney general's office exaggerated Boudreau's accomplishments in its press release, in an attempt to tout this prosecution as a high-visibility test case. "I feel bad for this kid," the person said. "He's not the appropriate test case. He's feeling bad. He has all these issues. He's been depressed."


    Not that I feel bad for him for being depressed or anything, but he's being viewed as a real criminal who stole from hundreds where all he really did was mess around on a computer.
  22. Hardware based keylogger from ThinkGeek.com! by Dexheimer · · Score: 4, Informative
    Key Katcher at ThinkGeek.com. There is much talk about blocking keylogging software in the first place, but what about something like this?
    This is a device that can be connected to a keyboard to record all keystrokes. It has a changeable password, keyword search, enable/disable option, and stores URLs. Records more than 65,000 keystrokes and does not require any software. Monitor unauthorized access to your computer or your network. Use it to troubleshoot or make fixes by tracing back through a users command sequence.
    Key Katcher plugs in between your keyboard and your computer. A microcontroller interprets the data, and stores information in the non-volatile memory (which retains the information even when there is a loss of power.) This means that the Key Katcher device can be unplugged, and the information will not be lost. Key Katcher plugs in between your keyboard and your computer. A microcontroller interprets the data, and stores information in the non-volatile memory (which retains the information even when there is a loss of power.) This means that the Key Katcher device can be unplugged, and the information will not be lost.
    To access the recorded data, you simply type your password in a text editor and the Key Katcher comes to life. A menu is displayed with options to erase data, view data, search data for keywords, change password, or disable the device.
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    1. Re:Hardware based keylogger from ThinkGeek.com! by andfarm · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Note to self: whenever logging into an untrusted machine, check along the keyboard cable to computer. If you see anything strange, unplug it and crush it under leg of handy chair.Crunch. Oops, was that your keylogger?

      Seriously, devices like these should be illegal. There's really no legitimate purpose for them -- no more than for those X10 spycams. (No, "maintenance and troubleshooting" isn't a real purpose -- most users don't enter a "command sequence" anyway, so that's a moot point.)

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  23. Re:Uh...wrong by Minna+Kirai · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I guess it depends if su is installed

    Even if its not, you can still collect passwords, just more slowly. If it can't su, the trickster software can just display an "authentication failed" message and quit to the real login screen. The victim just assumes she mistyped on the first try, and the attacker has a single new password to play with.

    Tricks like this is why Microsoft added the "Press Control+Alt+Delete to Log In" feature. (At the DoD's behest)

    Supposedly, it would be impossible for any user-level program to trap that keystroke, so you always can be sure you're seeing the real OS login screen. (Of course, given how easy it is to compromise the OS itself, this protection means little).

  24. Which one ? by LiteForce · · Score: 2, Informative
    ...and I thought the article was referring to the original Boston College!

    I only mention this as I was a student at the above and silent password logging TSRs were rampant on their network.

    Oh yeah, and their entire collection of staff/student mailboxes and the mailspool were made available via an anonymous read/write network share if you knew enough about Novell Netware to manually map a drive.

    To clarify, Boston (in Massachusetts, United States) was named after Boston (in Lincolnshire, United Kingdom) - more information can be found here.

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  25. Re:Zealotry. by Ibag · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think the point was not that "MIT and unix rox0r w00t!" but more that there are ways to avoid problems like this. Had they implemented a system like the one at MIT, a software based attack would have been much harder, if even feasable at all.

    To say, "No, you mentioned unix and MIT so therefore you must be a zealot and cannot have a point," is stupid. Saying that the useage of computers is irrelevent in this case is just as ignorant. The point of the story was not just to say crime happens. By alerting people to specific kinds of crime, people know to be cautous or to look for ways to avoid being victomized. For example, if the article was about someone using a defect in a specific brand of lock to break into houses and steal things, would you claim that the story isn't about locks or defects but instead only about a thief and his breaking and entering? I should hope not. More likely, you would check to make sure that you weren't using that kind of lock and if you were, you'd replace it to make sure you weren't vulnerable. Just because there is a theif does not mean that the general problem and solutions to it must be ignored.

  26. Now, how about Kazaa? by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Now, how about indicting and convict Kazaa and those of the same ilk who pepper their users' computer with all sorts of spyware without explicitly warning them right upfront???

  27. Glad I use Knoppix by Rysc · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This makes me glad I use Knoppix.

    When I am forced to go to the local community college computers to do some homework, I bring along my trusty Knoppx CD. Pop it in, boot up, and poof. Instant security. Knoppix even grabs one of their local DHCP addrsses and gets online right away. Of course, I could still be monitored if they really want to do it, but the runo-of-the-mill key loggers would be thwarted, and that makes me feel much safer. The fact that it's an effective local log/cookie deleter doesn't hurt either.

    They have a policy about using unauthorized software, but after careful reading I decided that its intent was to prevent system instability and whatnot by disallowing all software installs. They might still disallow me if someone in charge knew, but I don't care.

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    1. Re:Glad I use Knoppix by SuperFrink · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Sure that will clear out software running on the operating system but what if the logger is in hardware? "hardware keystroke logger" at google

      There are devices that you just plug in between the keyboard and the computer that will log every key you press. I know PS/2 loggers exist. I'm not sure about USB though.

      You can even get keyboards with the logging device build inside the case where people are much less likely to see it.

  28. Old tech keylogging by AndroidCat · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Back in the old days on the high school Teletype, we had a few successes capturing passwords by leaning on the paper tape punch on button. One time, someone spotted the moving tape after he'd logged in, stopped the tape, ripped it off, crumpled it and tossed the tape in the garbage. After he left the room, everyone dived for the garbage can. (A number of us could read paper tape manually.)

    *ahem* but of course I haven't done that sort of thing in decades... ;^)

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  29. pocket change by Servo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    In reality, $2000 isn't much money when talking about the possibility of how much the guy could have stole with that many victims.

    If your going to ruin your life over fraud, you might as well go all out.

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  30. ATMs too by kwenda · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I saw something, I want to say on Discovery - a documentary on counterfieting. Anyway, there was a group of people who wheeled an ATM into a mall and set it up to look like a legitimate bank machine. They left it there for a period of time, but it never dispensed any cash. Instead, it would read the magstripe on the card that was inserted, and then record the PIN number that the user entered. It then printed out a message that it was unable to contact the bank, or the customer was out of cash, or whatever. After that, the crooks came back and wheeled their ATM back out the door - along with hundreds of valid ATM card and PIN numbers.

  31. Clean Slate & Deep Freeze by FsG · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Several people in this discussion have asked about Clean Slate and Deep Freeze, and whether they could've prevented this attack by securely blocking drive write access.

    Having installed these programs on some of my school's machines, I can explain. The program itself is a low-level driver that basically sits between the OS and the hard drive. Whenever the OS wants to write to the HD, the driver does the writing and also makes a note of what was changed in a hidden location on the drive. When the machine boots, these notes are re-read, and the changes undone. This means that you can go to C:\, Select All, Delete, Empty Trash and it'll really be done (well, most of it; you can't delete certain things) - but the driver will remember those changes, and undelete everything when you reboot.

    Can it be defeated? You bet. A classmate of mine demonstrated defeating Deep Freeze by booting from a Linux floppy and simply renaming the driver files, preventing the program from loading itself. He then proceeded to install StarCraft (back in Windows), then repeated the linux-boot procedure and restored the drivers, effectively preventing anyone who didn't know the Deep Freeze disable password (or the Linux solution) from deleting the game.

    Neat, eh?

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  32. Re:Actually... by Glonoinha · · Score: 2, Funny

    Most of us do, it is called Windows XP (or Windows 2000 sp3.0.)

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  33. As a current BC student by Trefoil3 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    let me clue you in to just a few things. a - a majority of the kids here do come from VERY wealthy families. Of course there are your fair share of typical college students, but there is more than enough people that probably wouldn't notice a few bucks missing. that being said, he was probably only taking a small emount from everyone. b - the "money" he stole [from my understanding] was what they call "eagle bucks", meaning it was good within the university, could be used the the bookstore, dining hall, etc etc. There's no real way to withdraw this money, so i'm guessing that there's really only so much stuff you can buy on campus, and $2000 will cover that. c - the real issue in this whole thing is the BC policy with PIN numbers. they assign you one at the start of freshman year [or when you're hired] and it never changes. when this whole issue surfaced IT had to scramble for a way to let everyone change their PINs. Now we're getting an entirely "new system", with new IDs and supposedly a bunch of other "security features" that don't sound all that innovative or secure. d - i can't believe that a cs major from BC made slashdot. although i didn't really know him, i think he was in a few of my CS classes.