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uk.co Domains Knocked Offline By Registrar Dispute

An anonymous reader writes "The .uk.co domain was wiped off the face of the Internet this morning with no notice, leaving more than 8,000 livid individuals and businesses - including Amazon and Priceline - with no Web presence or email. I saw this on nvnews.net, which originally came from the register, but since the domain is wiped out, you can no longer reach the article." Actually, you can read the story fine on theregister.co.uk. ;)

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  1. Not true - or an exaggeration anyway by KNicolson · · Score: 5, Informative
    leaving more than 8,000 livid individuals and businesses - including Amazon and Priceline - with no Web presence or email.

    As The Reg article says, it was used by these two companies, for example, to catch people who typed http://www.amazon.uk.co by accident. Both these two still have their co.uk versions working successfully.

    1. Re:Not true - or an exaggeration anyway by $$$$$exyGal · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Agreed. I really doubt that Amazon or Priceline have been stricken with no Web presence or e-mail. Are there any companies that use a .uk.co domain for something besides misspellings?

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    2. Re:Not true - or an exaggeration anyway by cyb97 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Id guess that f.uk.co can gross some money ;-)

    3. Re:Not true - or an exaggeration anyway by squiggleslash · · Score: 5, Funny
      Yes. That awful "Castle Computing", much in Slashdot lately for alleged GPL violations, was www.castle.uk.co.

      Is this the wrath of any angry God, upset that his representative on Earth, Richard Stallman, should have his licence so cruelly ignored?

      Or is this just another dispute about money? Time will tell...

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    4. Re:Not true - or an exaggeration anyway by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      What kind of twisted in-bred retard would type in uk.co by accident?

      I allege that, were there such a person, the likelihood of them correctly typing a difficult word like 'amazon' shrinks to zero once they start getting co and uk mixed up.

      Jesus, someone register me coca.com.www.cola. You know, just in case.

    5. Re:Not true - or an exaggeration anyway by cyb97 · · Score: 2, Informative
      The statement is true and is perhaps a slight exaggeration, but nevertheless it's true...
      In this capitalistic world with such tight margins as amazon & priceline operate within every sale counts. Especially on the web where the next store which has virtually the same prices and conditions is only a few clicks away, being online is essential to staying alive!

      We've all worked for customers that believe it's the end of the world and reach for their lawyer-hotline as soon as a little snag is discovered in their o-so-great web-applic, but in the end many of these are also the ones to succede...

  2. Who gives a f.uk.co by bstadil · · Score: 5, Insightful

    These domains are just a revisit of deceptive sites that uses common misspellings. Like amason.com

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    1. Re:Who gives a f.uk.co by nomadic · · Score: 3, Funny

      I know a genuine Panaphonix when I see it! And look, there's Magnetbox, and Sorny!

    2. Re:Who gives a f.uk.co by glesga_kiss · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wow, just how many popups does that page open? My popup killer nearly asked for a vacation afterwards...

  3. Sub Judice... by $$$$$exyGal · · Score: 5, Informative
    What went wrong we may find out tomorrow as a Colombian judge decides whether Net Registrar has the continued right to the domain. Until then, Robert Fox tells us, he considers the matter sub judice and so does not want to comment further.

    For those that don't know, "sub judice" means that Mr. Fox doesn't want the media to do something that would influence the judge.

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    1. Re:Sub Judice... by kfg · · Score: 2, Informative

      More specifically it means "under" (sub) "judicial review" (judice).

      In other words rules of behaviour in public that could effect the case apply. This includes making statements to the public that could influence a judge or jury. Or for that matter doing *anything* that could blow your case, like, ohhhhh, confessing to a buddy or harassing a witness.

      Under some jurisdictions violating sub judice can actually bring charges of contempt of court. I don't know if Columbia is one of these.

      Sequestering jurors is based on the principles of sub judice.

      Or, as it is more commonly explained by lawyers to their clients:

      "Look, just stay home and keep your damned mouth shut. Ok?"

      KFG

  4. Uh-oh by Doctor+Sbaitso · · Score: 4, Funny

    What's with all these top-level domains disappearing? First .name, now .uk.co... I'm just glad I still have my trusty old .cx domain name.

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    1. Re:Uh-oh by farfisa69 · · Score: 2, Informative


      Not to be a nit picker, but .uk.co is not a TLD anyway. .co is the TLD and I don't think it is in a hurry to disappear.

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    2. Re:Uh-oh by Stephen+VanDahm · · Score: 4, Funny

      On a serious note, I think it's fascinating that all it takes is one JPEG to ruin an entire TLD forever.

      Steve

  5. Re:What country is .co? by YOU+LIKEWISE+FAIL+IT · · Score: 4, Informative
    Yup, it's Columbia. The domain in question is owned by the Univ. of Columbia, and they want to sell it off, like Tuvalu did. The government is not too happy, and this has sparked something of a pissing match.

    Read the article on el Reg, it's got the goods.

    Personally, I believe people that do this ( like the .au.com people ) deserve what they get.

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  6. Re:Why doesn't everyone just get a .com? by Repton · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Err, because if every domain was a .com, we may as well drop the .com suffix and go to arbitrary names. Which would defeat the purpose of the domain name system altogether --- we would lose easy distribution of the workload, and just put more pressure on a few servers.

    Heirarchies are a Good Thing, as any geek should know.

    [and, besides, often you want to distinguish yourself as belonging to a specific region...]

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  7. No big deal by Animats · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There were only 8,000 domains in "uk.co", and they were mostly slimeballs anyway, trolling for people who don't know they should be typing "co.uk". No big loss.

  8. Re:Why doesn't everyone just get a .com? by vadim_t · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Maybe because there are so many .com's that it's hard to come up with anything meaningful because pretty much everything obvious has been registered already?

  9. The Thought Process by Riomaggio · · Score: 5, Funny

    So, by wiping out this domain we avoid the typical web user playing through the following scenario:

    1) Web user thinks: "I need to order a book, let's go to Amazon"
    2) Web user types: "amazon.uk.co"
    3) Web user sees 15,000 porn sites pop up
    4) Web user starts to sweat, looks around office, hopes no one walks by
    5) Web user clicks furiously, but fails to keep up with the rush of pop-ups, pop-unders, and installation prompts
    6) Web user co-worker walks by, see's web user sweating, moaning softly and clicking so fast his/her hand is a blur
    7) Web user hits reset button on PC, loses all work, but manages to stem the tide of porn
    8) Web user sees co-worker next in cafeteria next day sitting with several other people, all are looking at web user and snickering...

    It's happened to all of us, admit it! Getting rid of "spam" domains is a good thing!

    Now, if they could could just get rid of whitehouse.com, I'd have a lot more respect for the American government!

    1. Re:The Thought Process by agentZ · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Now, if they could could just get rid of whitehouse.com, I'd have a lot more respect for the American government!

      The US Government can't own or enforce a copyright or trademark, so they can't, by law, go after whitehouse.com. That being said, however, I'm sure the good folks at White House Apple Juice have other ideas!

    2. Re:The Thought Process by damiam · · Score: 2, Informative

      Winkey-M minimizes all windows - the perfect solution for a time such as this. (Actually, the perfect solution is Mozilla, but let's not go there).

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    3. Re:The Thought Process by lenski · · Score: 3, Funny
      Too many 90 hour weeks... I read that as "winky-M" and wondered who had come up with a "porn user protection program"...

      Happy Linux user, forgetful of those cute winky keys... :-)

    4. Re:The Thought Process by LighthouseJ · · Score: 3, Funny

      You and everyone else that laughs at that, go to Fox Searchlab and watch farmsluts (no porn shown) [17 minute clip, Quicktime format]. I'll spare you the details so you can laugh about it while watching it.

  10. Good riddance by Stormie · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Just like it would be good riddance if the .au.com domains dropped off the internet. These scammers register a single .com domain for $15/year or whatever and then try so sell as many ".au.com" domains as they can, all pure profit, to suckers who couldn't get the .com.au domain they wanted.

  11. Re:Why doesn't everyone just get a .com? by tarquin_fim_bim · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've heard some talk of other countries, across the ocean, I don't believe it myself though.

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  12. Another way to lose your domain... by Yoda2 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Did you know that ICANN requires you to have a physical address in your registrar record? Someone tried take one of my ".net" domains on a technicality because I had a P.O. Box listed. More info here.

  13. I doubt it by carpe_noctem · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...leaving more than 8,000 livid individuals and businesses - including Amazon and Priceline - with no Web presence or email

    Somehow I doubt that amazon's web and email presence was severely limited by the lack of an amazon.uk.co domain.

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  14. So Castle.uk.co are fucked then. by kyz · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Bye bye to Castle Technologies, Linux kernel pirates*. Why you couldn't just use castle.co.uk in the first place, we may never know.

    *: ALLEGEDLY

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  15. this isn't true at all by carpe_noctem · · Score: 4, Interesting

    From www.uk.co:

    Since December 2002, we had offered to enter into a new arrangement with Net Registrar in order to safeguard your uk.co registrations with them for a short period of time to allow you sufficient time to transition to alternative domain names. ....

    A Council of State decision in Colombia dated 12 July 2002 ordered the Minister of Communications in Colombia to take over the administration of .co top level domain names by no later than 31 December 2003.


    They had been planning this since July, and while they were supposed to have done it on the 31st of December, they actually seem to have given all the .uk.co people nearly two months to find new domains. It's not like they just swept the rug out from underneath their feet as the reg's article seems to imply (though the article does mention that this was mandated last July).

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    1. Re:this isn't true at all by damiam · · Score: 4, Informative
      31 December 2003 ... while they were supposed to have done it on the 31st of December

      Check your year.

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  16. Don't fuck with RMS by Fnkmaster · · Score: 4, Funny

    Remember Castle Software from the GPL violation articles on /.? You know, the guys who (supposedly) ripped off GPLed kernel code for RISC OS. Yup, they were www.castle.uk.co. Not anymore. The vengeful spirit of RMS is seeking revenge on these bastards by knocking out the whole uk.co faux-domain.

  17. Re:Why doesn't everyone just get a .com? by droleary · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Heirarchies are a Good Thing, as any geek should know.

    Only a poser geek, really (based on moderation you received, we clearly have a lot of those on /.). Hierarchies are actually a very bad thing because they obscure information. That is, in fact, what this whole story is about!

    The real situation is this: we have companies in the United Kingdom that want to be found on the Internet. The problem is that there are two actual hierarchies in place that could be the root under which to file such a domain, those being .com and .uk. Then there are the "off" hierarchies that get used not because of their geographical location as intended, but because their abbreviation corresponds to some common usage (.co being the case here).

    So the hierarchy adds to the confusion of both the user and the company. The company has to figure out and register domains in whatever branch of the hierarchy the user may have wandered into, and the user never learns how addressing on the Internet is supposed to work and so they continue to wander around without aim. Elimination of the hierarchy would go a long way to clearing up the confusion and getting back to the simple idea of looking for, among other things, a company in the UK.

    Of course, nobody should expect that to happen any time soon. Getting rid of the hierarchy means getting rid of the need to create new top-level domains and therefore eliminates that ICANN profit center.

  18. whitehouse.com by Tumbleweed · · Score: 3, Funny

    I thought whitehouse.com was for renting out the Lincoln Bedroom, and for other PAC commercial activities? :)

    1. Re:whitehouse.com by raju1kabir · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Religion breeds terrorism.
      WTF kind of sig is that? If it were "Islam breeds terrorism" you would be labeled as a bigot. Using the even broader word "Religion" just makes you an even bigger bigot.

      Au contraire. Saying "Islam breeds terrorism" would be bigoted because it would require pointedly ignoring the fact that terrorism is in no way limited to Islam.

      Religion as a whole, on the other hand, is responsible for the vast majority of terrorism and has been throughout history. Terrorism is irrational behavior that only thrives in the context of irrational worldviews.

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  19. Re:Why doesn't everyone just get a .com? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Long hierarchies are confusing to users. OTOH, a "monocline grouping" (cheesy term, I know, but it gets the point across) is very natural and straightforward.

    A monocline grouping is essentially a two-level hierarchy; like car makes and models, brands and products, file folders and files, or menus and menu items. That's the reason (or one of 'em) that the CCTLDs that had been holding out for a complex city.region.category.tld naming system have been reluctantly converting to name.tld - a two-level hierarchy is ideal, from a UI perspective, and has many useful parallels in the real world.

  20. Yeah, really by Cyno · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why doesn't everyone just get an IP address? This system only works if everyone gets equal share and plays fairly. But we're all a bunch of liers, cheaters and theives.

  21. Re:Why doesn't everyone just get a .com? by shiflett · · Score: 2, Funny

    Because goatse.com just doesn't have the same ring to it.

  22. Wrath Of An Angry God by Landaras · · Score: 2, Funny

    That would be quite ironic that a god would choose an atheist as his representative...

    (Yes, I realize you are joking)

  23. Never underestimate the power of human stupidity. by edunbar93 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Heh. You've obviously never done tech support. Or, for that matter, dealt with the general public as part of your job.

    We've managed to prove that human stupidity isn't infinite by the sheer fact that we haven't yet left the planet for the cockroaches, but I assure you that value is very, very large indeed.

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