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SQL Server Developers Face Huge Royalties

superpat writes "The Register reports that Microsoft licensed SQL Server technology from Timeline. Trouble is, they didn't license the tech for use by MS customers... After 3 1/2 years in the courts, the final judgement rules that MS SQL Server customers must pay Timeline patent royalties. The argument that Microsoft said it was OK is no defence, apparently." News.com.com.com has another story.

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  1. Whoo. by bigfleet · · Score: 5, Funny

    Time for Microsoft to step up to the plate. Why would you think that you had to read a EULA if they can get away with this kind of $hit?

    1. Re:Whoo. by mmol_6453 · · Score: 2, Funny

      With Microsoft Bob as their only other in-house project to be released, you find this a surprise?

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  2. Bill is not a crook by richie2000 · · Score: 3, Funny
    Microsoft is not a law firm.

    Judging by the number of lawyers working for them, they might as well be.

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    1. Re:Bill is not a crook by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 1, Funny

      No no no silly!

      They're an advertising firm.

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  3. Well on the positive side... by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now I have yet ANOTHER good reason to push MySQL over MSSQL Server.

    Time to start forgetting all the VB I had to learn.

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  4. query... by ptaff · · Score: 4, Funny

    SELECT max(money)
    FROM ms.customers
    WHERE ms.cant_read_EULAs
    AND ms.really_wants_to_lose_market
    HAVING Slammer;

    1. Re:query... by PhxBlue · · Score: 2, Funny

      ORA-20665: insufficient money to execute patented SQL command

      (I'd post a SQL Server equivalent, but I don't know SQL Server.)

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  5. Whadya mean Microsoft is not a law firm... by The+Lord+of+Chaos · · Score: 2, Funny

    What else do you call a company that has more lawyers than engineers?
    Oh yeah ... Rambus

  6. Re:This is wrong... by Greedo · · Score: 2, Funny

    If you really believe that argument, then I've got some DVD players and TVs to sell you.

    No, honest, I promise I can sell them to you. What's that you say ... something about "back of a truck" ... what? Not at all!

    *cough*

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  7. Pirated copies by one9nine · · Score: 2, Funny

    The vast amount of people who use pirated versions MS SQL must be having a good laugh. This is like a company charging me for extra miles on rental car that I stole.

  8. Profit! by supergiovane · · Score: 2, Funny
    1) Create a small company
    2) Develop something useful
    3) Sell it to MS with a restrictive license
    4) Threaten MS customers
    5) Watch MS buying your small company
    6) Profit!

    For MS employees watching Slashdot: is there anyone at MS interested in including in the next Windows version my penis enlargement technology, so that I can finally stop spamming people? Naturally your customers cannot use this technology to develop anything else than their penis size without infringing my license. You can call the next revision of your OS 'Windows XL'.

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  9. Wow. by foxtrot · · Score: 2, Funny

    And I thought Slammer was going to be the way MS's SQL swerver was going to cost this company the most money this month....

  10. Nobody ever got fired for choosing Microsoft by Godwin+O'Hitler · · Score: 3, Funny

    Let's see if that still holds after this, eh?

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  11. "Elegent Memo" by Mark+Pitman · · Score: 2, Funny

    Anyone else notice that the document on the Timeline website that is linked to is titled "Elegent Memo". Kinda funny, they wrote it in Word XP (aka Word XP) using one of the built-in letter templates and exported to HTML. Didn't bother to change the title of the document. Just makes them look a little silly if you ask me.

  12. cost of ownership? by bracher · · Score: 4, Funny

    so, how do the cost of ownership comparisons look now? ;-)

  13. Does SQL Server come with a jar of vaseline? by Sandor+at+the+Zoo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hey, you develop for Microsoft software, you get what you deserve. :-)

  14. Re:WRONG by nowt · · Score: 2, Funny
    Hence "extreme programming, v2"...


    "Wait guys, the lawyer's not hear yet"

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  15. Announcing Microsoft DataBOB by scoove · · Score: 4, Funny

    Dear Microsoft SQL Server Customer:

    On February 20 2003, Microsoft entered into a settlement agreement with Timeline Inc. regarding certain intellectual properties of Timeline and licensing matters associated with Microsoft's use of Timeline technology in its SQL Server system.

    Pursuant to the collective agreement between Microsoft and Timeline, Microsoft recognizes that while it had purchased a right to use the Timeline technologies in its SQL Server system, end-users of the respective technology were not licensed to do so, and would be liable for the purchase of such licensed use directly with Timeline Inc.

    In order to provide our customers with a cost-effective alternative to licensing of Timeline Inc technology, Microsoft is pleased to announce that it is making its powerful, internally developed database technology available for immediate download. This product, Microsoft DataBOB, includes:

    - a powerful database capable of listing your favorite contacts
    - a GUI administration console that can be learned in minutes by your developers and follows a unique interface concept
    - helpful wizards and assistants that make use of DataBOB possible by even clerical employees

    We're confident you'll find DataBOB not only very useful, but will recognize its value in reducing your information technology costs as even the most novice computer users will find DataBOB simple and straight forward in application.

    In order to obtain your license, see an authorized DataBob distributor today.

  16. Wonderful... by DCowern · · Score: 2, Funny

    Can I pay less if I don't want the gaping security holes?

  17. Re:WRONG by Reziac · · Score: 5, Funny

    Coding team of the future:

    13 lawyers (8 of 'em specialists in patent and copyright law)
    27 managers
    63 marketing analysts
    9 outsourcing contracts, paid in advance
    1 programmer (optional)

    (No, I *didn't* forget the testing and QA guys :)

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