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Matrix Special Edition Cancelled

An anonymous reader writes "According to The Digital Bits, the recently announced Matrix Special Edition has been cancelled. Rumor is that it was cancelled by the Wachowski brothers in hopes of coming out with a Super Collectors Special Edition later."

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  1. No Official Reason? by TPIRman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From the article: "There's no official reason given as to why this SE was cancelled."

    From the studio article in the same article: "Warner Home Video will not be releasing the previously announced The Matrix Special Edition double-disc DVD. In a shift in strategy to broaden The Matrix fan base prior to the May 15 theatrical release of the highly anticipated sequel The Matrix Reloaded, Warner Home Video will reprice The Matrix DVD to $19.99 SRP on April 29."

    There's your official reason right there, and it's reasonable. If Warner released an expensive special edition now, it would push the standard Matrix DVD farther back on the shelves. The special edition would sell well, undoubtedly, but only already-dedicated fans would be willing to pay a steep price. With Warner's new strategy, stores will promote the newly-discounted standard DVD, and newbies will be that much more encouraged to get into the film -- and subsequently more likely to head to theaters for the sequel. Makes good sense from a marketing point of view.

    Also, the article doesn't say that the SE has been killed forever -- indeed, it implies that a special edition of some kind will come out when Warner thinks the time is right.

    1. Re:No Official Reason? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      except releasing special edition would not remove the standard edition for the new comers to the franchise.

      fans get the special edition
      new comers get the (cheaper) normal edition

      don't see how NOT releasing the special edition is a better option, because then you're just depriving the fans.

    2. Re:No Official Reason? by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "don't see how NOT releasing the special edition is a better option, because then you're just depriving the fans."

      "Milking the franchise via special edition DVD's" has been a hot topic lately. Lots of people feel burned when they buy a DVD, only to have a new DVD a few months later that contains bonus footage.

      It's possible that the Wachao..uh...however-you-spell-their-name Brothers has concerns about this release tainting a future and potentially more lucrative release.

    3. Re:No Official Reason? by rabiteman · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Fans will go to the movie anyway, and they'll buy the special collector edition whenever it comes out.

      If they released both, they'd have two products competing for shelf-space needlessly.

      Oh, you mean products competing for shelf space like Warcraft III and the Warcraft III Collector's Edition? Or do you mean more like Windows XP Home vs Windows XP Pro? Hang on, maybe you mean it would be two competing products like 4-cylinder vs 6-cylinder models of the same automobile? Or perhaps the way Sony's top-of-the-line A/V equipment competes with its entry-level versions?

      It sure is a good thing that companies don't sell differently graded versions of the same product -- imagine the confusion if Coca-Cola began selling 12oz, 20oz, and 2L units of its beverages! The large 'fan' size would push the smaller 'newbie' drinks off the shelf! And even if the smaller sizes did get shelf space, they'd be competing with each other due to the similarity of their sizes. All the consumers would just get fed up of trying to decipher the options in front of them and end up leaving the store with a few 40s of Olde English instead.

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    4. Re:No Official Reason? by someguy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You seem to be missing the idea behind normal retail.

      Car dealerships don't have hundreds of models like places that sell movies have hundreds of movies.

      Coke is a firmly entrenched product. In many places it isn't even competing with more than one other company. The campus I attend school at is exlusively Coke. This isn't a situation they can pull with the Matrix DVDs.

      Your Warcraft example doesn't really hold up either. At most times there are no more than a few dozen titles that are being pushed by retail outlets. Again, many fewer titles to compete for marketshare than in the movie section.

      Or maybe you do see the Matrix as being that important as to be on the same level. What WB seems to be trying to accomplish here is ensuring greater sales for the super Matrix edition later by teasing people in with the entry level. Newbies who bought the Matrix normal edition and fell in love probably wouldn't be willing to go out the next day and get the super version. Give them a few months to dig on the normal version AND a new movie - you've not only sold a basic copy, but a super copy as well to the same person.

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    5. Re:No Official Reason? by AttillaTheNun · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not quite a fair comparison. Windows didn't come out with XP Home, then 6 months later (with no advanced notice) Windows XP Pro. Honda doesn't release a 4-cylinder model, then follow it up 6 months later with a 6-cylinder model with no advanced warning. Coke is a disposable product, not a collectible, so it doesn't even remotely apply. The point is, I wouldn't have bothered with the initial release if I had known that 6 months later (or in this case, 4 years later) the "ultimate" release would be available that makes my initial purchase less worthy. I wouldn't mind if the original release was much cheaper ($10), as long as I knew a better version was available down the line. Then I could choose whether I wanted the simpler/cheaper package now or wait for the "ultimate" release. New Line, to their credit, did just this with Lord of the Rings. I chose to wait and compare the two releases (the original vs the 4-disk set) and I chose to buy the 4-disk set (even though it cost more).

    6. Re:No Official Reason? by Banjonardo · · Score: 3, Funny
      Wachao

      Bless you.

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    7. Re:No Official Reason? by TomServo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yeah, I tried to sorta correct myself, I realize that people don't *have* to buy each version. It may even be a good business decision on his part, but I consider it to be kinda sneaky and underhanded to plan it all out.

      It was sorta like the Lord of the Rings DVD as well. I didn't buy the original DVD release because I knew a better one was coming later. If I hadn't known, and had bought the original, only to have a better version come out later, I would have been pretty upset. Sure, it probably made them more money, but to me it would have felt like they were trying to take advantage of those who were their biggest fans.

      So while this may not make as much money in the long run, I think it's better from a customer relations standpoint.

    8. Re:No Official Reason? by humming · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You wrote:
      > fans get the special edition
      > new comers get the (cheaper) normal edition

      No, fans won't buy it at all. Since fans already have the Matrix Original DVD and the Matrix Revisited DVD.

      Ans since the Special Edition was nothing else but the Original bundled with the Revisited, why would /anyone/ get the Special Edition?

      This is what they have realized and thus dropped the whole 'Special Edition' idea.

      //H

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  2. What? No Matrix 1.5? by Astroboy! · · Score: 5, Funny

    How can they hope to keep up with the X-Men franchise?

    1. Re:What? No Matrix 1.5? by JPelorat · · Score: 4, Funny

      Matrix: Rehashed

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  3. They had though of releasing both versions by plexxer · · Score: 5, Funny

    but George Lucas has that idea patented already.

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    1. Re:They had though of releasing both versions by finkployd · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Not really, Lucas's patent specifically covers the concept of tricking people into thinking that each release will be the "last and greatest" one, only to tweak the film and make Greedo shoot first, and release it again.

      Peter Jackson was always up front about what is being released and when. Everyone know there would be two, a theatrical DVD and an extended DVD shortly after. They have also already claimed there would be a big honkin' box set when it is all finished.

      Finkployd

  4. unfortunately i cant show you what it is by mAIsE · · Score: 3, Funny

    no one can be told what the speciali edition is... ;)

    1. Re:unfortunately i cant show you what it is by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      "no one can be told what the speciali edition is... ;)"

      I heard that they cancelled the new release because not enough of the testers were taking the right pill that came with it.

  5. Reason. by Renraku · · Score: 3, Funny

    The real reason is that the machines from the Matrix and the machines from Skynet are in different unions, and refuse to work together in the same world, just to entertain us humans.

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  6. Hmmm... by TopShelf · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If they indeed cancelled it because they'd rather do the whole thing later on, and do it better, then you have to give them credit. How pi$$ed would fans be if they came out with the SE, and then another version of the same stuff later on?

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    1. Re:Hmmm... by sweetooth · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You mean like every other movie out there? I love how the James Bond box set was released right before the theatre release of a new movie. Hmmm, maybe so they can sell an updated boxed set later on? Or X-Men 1.5. If I had known they were going to release a special edition before X2 came out I would have waited. Instead I'm just going to be happy with the original release. Of course most of my friends rushed out and bought 1.5.

      It's all about gouging the customers for an extra $40. I can't tell you how many people I know didn't realize that a LoTR:FoTR special edition was going to be released in November. They rushed out and bought the theatrical release and then bought the special edtion later for the extra footage. Of course the theatrical release will sit on a shelf collecting dust, but the studio got their extra $20 so who cares right?

    2. Re:Hmmm... by tuffy · · Score: 4, Informative
      no shit. When the first LOTR movie came out on DVD, a friend of mine bought a copy (what was it, 2-disk? 3?). Pre-ordered, even. Boy, was he pissed when I told him I was waiting until November because of the 4-disc set.

      It was 2 discs, and none of the stuff on his disc of extras can be found anywhere on your 4 disc set. So, if one really wants the "ultimate" version of the film, with both cuts and all the extras, both sets are needed. But one has little cause for surprise or complaint, since New Line announced this strategy months before the DVD release and one could find all the versions listed at DVD retailers' web sites for a very long time.

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    3. Re:Hmmm... by ckaminski · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, what pisses me off most about Army of Darkness, is that I cannot seem to get a version with *ALL* of the publicly released footage. For example, the TV version has some extra scenes in the windmall that are present on the Japanese subtitled import, but that video is missing a bunch of other scenes in the castle. And the 3, count em three different DVD versions are still missing the same scenes. It's fucking annoying. One of my favorite movies, and I can't seem to get one whole cohesive piece. ARRGGH!!!!

      Too bad I'll never be able to watch Bruce Campbell in any movie or TV show and not think: "Well maybe I didn't pronounce every exact syllable, but yeah, I said your damn words..." :-)

  7. Only try to realise the truth: ... by kafka93 · · Score: 3, Funny

    .. there is no Special Edition.

  8. Dilution by chemstar · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I wonder to what extent the expeience of the movie itself becomes diluted with such marketing iterations.

  9. Don't worry by blitzoid · · Score: 3, Funny

    No need to worry, the Super Ultra Deluxe Megaton Special Edition DX Matrix will be coming out soon.

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  10. Super Collectors Special Edition by MnO-Raphael · · Score: 4, Funny

    Will this one have all guns replaced by walkie-talkies? Or is that Super Extended Collectors Special Edition?

    1. Re:Super Collectors Special Edition by Maserati · · Score: 5, Funny

      "We need walkie-talkies, lots of walkie-talkies."

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  11. You mean Unloaded, not Cancelled. by Limburgher · · Score: 4, Funny

    Dammit. Could have been so much cooler.

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  12. Why bother? I'm waiting for the ... by burgburgburg · · Score: 4, Funny

    Super Mega Ultra Special Edition of the Matrix trilogy. That will include enough code to actually create your own Matrix, enslave, at the very least, members of your own family AND do wire work with the best of them (assuming the best of them can't do the kung fu moves without being attached to a wire rig). And it will be reasonably priced for the holiday season.

  13. DVD's and Movies with Sequels by ManUMan · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Given that most DVD's now contain special features, it seems like the prudent thing to do is wait until the entire series (LOTR, Star Wars, Matrix, etc.) is released together. Why would I want to pony up the bucks for one special edition DVD when I can wait and get the ultra-super-extra-even specialer Box collection? Further, if you don't know if they are going to release the ultra-super-extra-even specialer Box collection, would you wait until all the DVD's were out just in case? I guess I am going to wait a while before investing in DVD's of any of these series until I see if they will release a whole series of DVD's.

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  14. Moved to archive: by DeadSea · · Score: 4, Informative

    The correct link for the article, since the article was moved off the home page into the archives.

  15. Re:Fine with me! by NerveGas · · Score: 2, Interesting

    That's not necessarily because they "couldn't get it right". A lot of actors have realized that folks really like the bonus features, like deleted scenes. So, what do they do? When they're not pretending to know about world politics, they're demanding that they be paid extra for anything used as bonus features on a DVD.

    They're already getting paid to shoot scenese. Then they want MORE money if some of those scenes are used in the bonus features. My, isn't that an interesting economical perspective.

    steve

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  16. When asked for comment... by SlowMovingTarget · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...Matrix star Keanu Reeves replied: "Whoa."

  17. Not to mention... by JayBlalock · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The "Special Edition" DVD was going to be 90% recycled material from the original Matrix and Matrix Revisited DVDs, with only a bit more added. Perhaps someone realized that no one was going to buy it. (casual fans would just buy the movie, hardcore fans already have 'Revisited') Kudos to the Wachowskis for NOT trying to gouge their fans!

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  18. Noooooo! by Jordy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well I guess we can't have everything.

    At least we'll have the Platinum Edition, Superbit Edition, Limited Edition, Full Screen Edition, Widescreen Edition, Platinum Series Exteneded Edition, Collector's Edition, Boomstick Edition, Box Set, Unrated Edition, Criterion Edition, Ultimate Edition, 20th Anniversary Edition (in 20 years), Director's Cut, Deluxe Edition and of course this Super Collectors Special Edition to buy and enjoy!

    My god I'm stick of DVD editions.

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  19. The reason why... by Toasty16 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...they cancelled it because the special edition was just the original Matrix DVD bundled with "Enter the Matrix", a making-of DVD that was previously only available as a separate purchase. That makes buying the "Special Edition" redundant because every geek worth his salt already has the Matrix DVD, so now they would have TWO identical DVDs and a making-of DVD. With that stupid project cancelled, the Wachowskis+WB can work on a TRUE special edition, possibly with more special features and commentary by cast members other than Carrie-Anne Moss. Of course, I can't wait to be fleeced of $70 for the ultra-mega-super-duper edition 6-disc trilogy set coming out after the release of the "The Matrix: Revolutions."

  20. Very Nice Move by Strange+Ranger · · Score: 5, Insightful

    > Rumor is that it was cancelled by the Wachowski brothers in hopes of coming out with a Super Collectors Special Edition later."

    rather than trying to milk us for both the Special Edition and then (surprise!) the Super Collectors Special Edition.
    The theater release schedule is terrific as well.

    The Wachowski brothers are going to have a huge and satisfied fan base simply by doing the opposite of whatever this guy has done.

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  21. Re:Fine with me! by scott1853 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I agree, although I'd like to see a professionally made documentary done for the "making of" feature in movies. Every one I've seen has been nothing more that the supervisors spending 15 minutes talking over some movie footage. Even then they're terribly unprepared, as every other word is "uh".

  22. Re:Fine with me! by nojomofo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A lot of actors have realized that folks really like ... deleted scenes."

    On the "UHF" DVD, during the deleted scenes section, Al says several times that, basically, there's a reason that the scenes were deleted. In some instances, it might be interesting to know what was going through the director's mind (or at least getting hints about it), but I think in most cases, Al is right - watch the movie, the deleted scenes aren't in it for a reason.

  23. Ah, the Lucas gambit by sql*kitten · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Rumor is that it was cancelled by the Wachowski brothers in hopes of coming out with a Super Collectors Special Edition later

    This is how it works:
    1. Shoot a movie, but keep all the unused material from the cutting room floor
    2. Every few months, splice some of these back into the film, think of a new name for the film like "Special Edition", "Director's Cut", "Colllector's Edition" or any combination of the above, or reformat it to widescreen. Sell this new film at full price in the stores.
    3. PROFIT!!


    Who are the customers? Die hard fans, and relatives who have no idea what to get someone for xmas/birthday but remember that they liked the film when it was on at the cinema. Don't get me wrong, I thought The Matrix was a good film, but it was never a cultural revolution, it was always a franchise.
  24. Ad-dot by macshune · · Score: 2, Funny

    Stuff is news, from nerds that matter.

  25. DVD Crock ! by bushboy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Beware of what your buying into...

    You pay the price to see the movie big-screen and then they can fleece you later on with the same movie on DVD that has *EXTRA FEATURES*

    Later on, there's a super-extended *Directors Cut* version.

    The bad side of this digital-age is obvious - overpriced, over-sold, over exagerated, redundant.

    The good side is not so obvious and rarely seen these days - pure quality and value for money.

    This quality is out there, but my god, you have to wade through 90% of crap to find it.

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    1. Re:DVD Crock ! by stratjakt · · Score: 5, Insightful

      >> they can fleece you later on with the same movie on DVD that has *EXTRA FEATURES*

      How is that fleecing you? You don't need to buy the Special Edition, the Collectors Edition, and the Boxed Set when it's released.

      I don't get the whole "how dare they think of offering a product that I dont need" attitude.

      You dont want it? Dont buy it. What's the rub?

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    2. Re:DVD Crock ! by WankersRevenge · · Score: 5, Funny

      This quality is out there, but my god, you have to wade through 90% of crap to find it.

      And how is this any different from posting on Slashdot?

      ;)

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  27. Obligatory PVP link for multiple DVD versions by Oliver+Wendell+Jones · · Score: 5, Funny


    Click here

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  28. The brothers made a good move by quick9vb · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think they made a good move by delaying this. They decided not to alientate those potential customers who are not already Matrix loyalists as other movie franchises have, i.e. Star Wars, LOTR. It is tough for a non-franchise fan to get into the all movie hoopla if they haven't seen where the franchise originated, especially if they have to spend $50 for a special edition for a movie they aren't even sure they will like.

    Opinions may vary on what franchise is best, or whether or not this was a good move for the current fan base, but in the end it will all work out. The Matrix fanatics who are complaining and freaking out about the announcement will still be the first ones in the line to purchase the special editions next spring.

  29. Super Collectors Special Edition? by drblunt · · Score: 4, Funny
    Then, after the Super Collectors Special Edition, they will take all three movies, put them in a 8 DVD set, and release the Ultimate Super Happy Collectors Special Fun-Time Edition, followed by the Utlimate Super Happy Collectors Special Fun-Time Edition :Platnium Edition, now with The Super Special Ultimate Trading Cards of Doom.

    Man, I can't wait.

    Doc

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  30. Your friends (and you) are to blame - not New Line by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I wish people would stop bashing on New Line for releasing the extended version of FOTR a few months after releasing the theatrical version. New Line made this perfectly clear right from the start and, unless you were an idiot or had money to burn, you had no reason to buy the initial release if you knew it was the later version that you would secretly lust for.

    sweettooth, what more did you expect from New Line? An Uruk-Hai warrior standing at every store bashing you on the head whilst shouting "longer version out in November" if you tried to buy the standard release?

    Don't any of your friends who are so DVD-crazy that they buy films as soon as they are released read any film or home video magazines that would have spelt it out for them in big letters? Don't they have a friend (such as yourself) who would tell them to hold their horses until the super-duper version comes out?

    In short, sweettooth, what the hell did New Line do wrong except keep their customers well informed and is it their fault that nobody in your inner circle knew what practically everyone else who cared managed to find out?

    Yeah, New Line. Real SOBs for telling you just what they're going to do and then actually doing it...

    Sheesh. Some people.

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  31. You could, like, rent it.... by DG · · Score: 4, Funny

    You know, there are places where you can borrow movies for a limited time for a small fee.

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  32. Don't be hasty by darth_flannel · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I don't think the Wachowski brothers are out to screw over DVD users. It's reasonable to think that the Special Edition was cancelled because it wouldn't add much to the experience (X-Men 1.5, anyone?).

    If anything, waiting a little while longer for a box-set or other version would permit the adding in of other featurettes and options that make the purchase of a different disc a little more logical. I, for one, wouldn't mind getting a matrix set with the animatrix reels in there as well (http://www.theanimatrix.com/).

    I'm no apologist for the big production houses that screw over hungry consumers like ourselves, but I do like to see REAL content added from version to version.

  33. It's all a publicity/hype stunt... by Code-Ex · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yeah... sure... we're going to produce a special DVD... got your attention? got you talking to friends? okay... now were not... got your attention again? got you talking to your friends again?

  34. You mean I'm not gonna get screwed? by lylfyl · · Score: 2, Funny

    I got sucked in to buying both rereleases of the original Star Wars series on VHS. I know that I'll shell out for the re-re-release when the finally put it on DVD.

    I barely avoided buying both releases of LOTR Fellowship, only by 'borrowing' the first two disk set from family and 'forgetting' to return it until the four-disk came out. (come to think of it, I may still have the first set..)

    I've worn out the Matrix on VHS, and I 've been waiting to rebuy it on DVD, but I KNEW that a special edition would come out as soon as I bought it.

    Now, it's close enough that I can just wait and buy the whole box set. For once, I'll come out ahead in this game.

    Neo must be tampering with the Matrix...

  35. Slightly better Star Wars films? by Conspir8or · · Score: 2, Funny
    If there's one thing that I hate about George Lucas, it's that he seems to purposefully release slightly better versions of the same movie every few years, just to make sure that he can get his fans to repeatedly buy the same film.

    I agree -- Episode II is indeed slightly better than Episode I, but both are essentially alike.
  36. Re:Fine with me! by el_gregorio · · Score: 2, Insightful

    sometimes, though, the deleted scenes were very well done and perfectly acted; but just didn't fit the flow of the movie. good scenes with insightful commentary ( esp. those by M Night Shyamalan -- 6th Sense, Unbreakable ) can give you an interesting deeper perspective into certain characters, that may have been trimmed from the original release simply because of time constraints.

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  37. That's it! by lewp · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm putting those Wachowski brothers on double secret probation.

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  38. Re:Your friends (and you) are to blame - not New L by carlos_benj · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The "extended" edition isn't for the average person, it's for the /. uber-geek audience, or people who can recite the books word-for-word... Yadda, yadda.

    I must whole-heartedly disagree. Most of my friends are non-geeks who, after seeing the extended version, remarked that the additional footage made scenes in TTT more understandable. Particularly the 'gifting' scene where Galadriel hands out many items that just suddenly appear in the second movie or have special properties (the cloaks) that cause the viewer to think the scene makes no sense.

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