Mandrake Linux 9.1 (Bamboo) Is Available!
Not to load you up with Mandrake, but joestar writes "Mandrake Linux 9.1 (Bamboo) is now officially available at a number of FTP mirrors. This version appears to be a key release for MandrakeSoft and includes many new features such as a new simplified installation procedure, ZeroConf network support, Wi-Fi support, NTFS partition resizing and a brand-new... MandrakeGalaxy theme. It's very beautiful and the whole thing has apparently very few bugs, which is a good news. A full presentation is available at Mandrake's website, download is available from their FTP page as usual. As I see it, it's certainly the most important Mandrake release since version 7.0..." Update: 03/25 21:44 GMT by T : And if you like the distro, you can do both yourself and Mandrake a favor by ordering box sets straight from them, or joining Mandrake's Club.
I would encourage you all to buy the CD Set to support continuing development of this distrobution. Mandrake have been having problems recently, and every purchase counts :)
This is a really strange statement. How can you know that there are few bugs when it has just been released? Of course the people who made it wouldn't have released it if they knew there were a lot of bugs, but making the connection to few bugs is... well unfounded. For a system like Debian woody with a 2.2 kernel you can probably safely talk about very few bugs, since it's been out and about and tested for very long.
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Hail to the king, baby!
I thought they were going to limit the release to Mandrake Club subscribers to start with, and only make FTP access available much later. What happened to that idea?
And to not purchase it, you are stabbing one of the major Linux distro makers in the back. Mandrake has absolutely NO control over the actions of the government, just as I have no control over my government. I voted for the Alliance party, but they didn't get in because of the other people in my country... Mandrake has nothing to do with politics, and to draw that relationship is very immature and stupid.
I remember that one of my friends once offered the services of his ISP to provide free downloads. The next month he received a very large bill. Remember when you download these "free" ISOs that there is a cost for the ftp sites that provide the ISOs for free to everyone. It can actually get to be very very expensive to provide free ISOs ($7-10 per download). Also, remember that there were costs in testing and developing the distribution, and that whenever you download an ISO for free you are taking advantage of the resources that were put towards the quality distribution that you will experience.
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Mandrake is a fine company that really really needs our support right now. Whether you can help by lending them some of your time to fix bugs, or by providing software to make their distribution better, or (like most non-developers) by purchasing their distribution, I strongly encourage everyone who uses Mandrake to do their part.
(I use Slackware, but bought a copy of Mandrake for my brother a while ago because he uses Mandrake.)
An easy and cheap way that you can reduce your impact on ftp sites and also help to share the costs of distribution is to download the ISO from a P2P network (just check the md5sum against the official one from the ftp site when you're done), and/or set yourself up as a P2P mirror so that a few people can download the ISO from you. This is the best use of P2P that I can think of (much better than providing illegal copies of copyrighted music or movies). Another way you can help is to burn some CDs for your windows-using friends so they can try it out!
Mandrake is a French product. To purchase it means to stand up for the international diplomacy, national sovereignty, and the rule of law.
A deep unwavering belief is a sure sign you're missing something...
Yawwwwnnnnn....
Mandrake is a great newbie distribution.
I just read the review over at OSNews and one thing that bothers me a bit is that Mandrake seems to be just as bad as Windows wwhen it comes to loading all kinds of unecessary services. Eugenia said that the startup time was horrible due to all the services that gets started. I know it can be turned off, but how many people actually do that (except for you geeks, of course).
Personally, I'll continue to enjoy my optimized Gentoo box, only running the services that I decide is necessary.
Happy Linux'ing...
If you mod me down, I *will* introduce you to my sister!
I only wish it wouls support me. I've purchased ~10 distros, dating back to SuSE 6.1, RedHat 6.3, Mandrake 7.1, 8.0, 8.2, just to name a few.
Everytime I run into trouble I get the same response: "RTFM"
Well I *did* RTFM and the FM didn't help, this is why I was posting to your Linux forum!
I have yet to see an install of the aforementioned distros install successfully (and by that I mean see all my hardware) on any machine I care to throw at it. BeOS however (and MS, but that goes without saying) sees the hardware just fine.
I want to like Linux, I really do, but all I ever see from them is copying/playing catchup to MS.
Maybe this distro will be a different experience for me, but I kind of doubt it.
So rise up, all ye lost ones, as one, we'll claw the clouds.
This isn't a straight download of the 2.4.21 preX. Mandrake has tested it extensively. No commercial distribution ever ships with a stock kernel, so they all do their own testing.
I would probably mark you down as a troll if I had moderation points today. Someone help me out.
Yes, a few people are doing that. Big deal, it's not serious. It's the same mentality that's causing 'freedom fries', but in reverse. I would suspect that this mentality is MUCH more prolific in the US than it is anywhere in Europe or Canada.
But really, the us/france/germany/canada are still going to be trading partners, whether you like it or not. There's nothing you can do about it. The US's strength is built on revenue generated by trade, wars cost money, and the US would be loathe to cut off a couple of its major trading partners (and hence revenue streams) especially when bush is requesting billions upon billions in cash for the war effort.
However, I find the french effort to send pretzels to bush HIGHLY amusing.
There is a big difference for me between feature-bleeding-edge-patch and stability-bleeding-edge-patch ... As someone said they have tested it and probably tweaked it too!
Let me see...
:-)
.rpm packages, not tarballs. Also, please note that alpha releases aren't exactly the stuff that newbies shoudl use...
Yes, *I* do think that RPMs save you from dependency problems. On the last count I wasn't exactly a total newbie.
Funny thing is that (in my experience) it is exactly the newbies who complain about dependency problems with RPMs. this is how the story (usually) goes:
A: This damn thing doesn't work!!!!
B: Which damn thing?
A: urpmi! It's all broken!
B: Could you please elaborate this a bit?
A: It wan't install packages!!!
B: Eer... Which packages, if I may ask?
SCENARIO 1:
A: grmkn-0.01-alpha.tyr.gz
B: We are sorry, but urpmi is made for installing
A: HOW DEAR YOU !!! I have used windows for 10 years, and know all shartcuts by heart, and now you tell me I'm a newbie! Take your broken software and stuff it... (etc.)
SCENARIO 2:
A: grmkn-0.01-alpha.i386.rpm
B: This does not look like a mandrake rpm package. This does not mean that it wil not work on Mandrake system, but the source from which you are getting it probably doesn't have the info needed for urpmi/rpmdrake to work properly. That is, you have to download it, and define a local rpm source.You'll also need to download all the files it depends on, too. In the worst case (i.e. if it requires some libraries, and the lib-rpms are badly built) this will not work at all.
A: AARGH!!! This rpm stuff is all broken, I knew it! Take your broken software and stuff it... (etc.)
SCENARIO 3:
A: grmkn-0.01-alpha.i586.mdk.rpm
B: This is a cooker RPM.
A: I know, but I really want to install it.
B: What is exactly the problem?
A: Well, when I try to install it with urpmi/rpmdrake, it tells me that it will download 50 other packages. I don't want all this!!
B: I am sorry, but the package you asked for requires the latest KDE to work properly, and KDE is rather big...
A: AARGH!!! This rpm stuff is all broken, I knew it! Take your broken software and stuff it... (etc.)
There are only two choices:
1) A company that sticks to the values of Open Source/Free Software movement, and then has to remind the users from time to time that development costs.
2) A company that does not stick to these values, and try to turn Linux into proprietary system by putting its proprietary licenses on key parts of the system, and such.
The point is that companies of the second groop inherently have less interest in keeping the prices low and quality high than those of the first group... You just got rid of Microsoft BECAUSE they were the company of the second type, and now you are begging for a Linux-clone thereof? Does not make sense to me.
Mandrake is in the first group, and that's a Good Thing For You (TM), because it assures that you really OWN your software, and that the company can never become a big bad monopolist that does not care about your (customers) needs.
As for the MandrakeClub, it happens to be a very nice service that's worth the money you pay for it. IMHO, the 'Club' model is the future of free software financing, at least as far as SoHO and home users are concerned. All the other models I've seen so far are either:
Service offers targeting big companies
or:
Based on the idea that free software must be wrapped in proprietary license in order to sell it the classical way.
You mean because France doesn't do everything US wants them to do, they should be boycotted? And how exactly is France putting US soldiers at risk?
This may come as a shock to you, but the World is not US's playground where everyone must do whatever US wants them to do.
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Yes, I know, offtopic...
I'd really just love to know how
(a) the _French_ Government put US soldiers lives in danger, when all they have done is attempt to stop the _US_ Government sticking them in a position where they are getting shot at, and
(b) why this means you should boycott Mandrake; its not a Government owned distro is it?
After all, if anyone is going to whinge about people's lives being put in danger it would be me (as a Brit) boycotting the US as its your President who has got British troops in the firing line (and done a rather better job of killing them than the Iraqis, while we mention it). I'm not doing so, however, as I fail to see how it would be Redhat's fault.
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