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Parallel Universes Are Real
It's in Scientific American, it must be true. This month's cover story:
Parallel Universes.
"The simplest and most popular cosmological model today predicts that you have a twin in a galaxy about 10 to the 1028 meters from here." That number's a lot bigger than 10 to the 101.42 meters, which are the farthest observable objects in what we call our universe. And anyway, twin or not, anyone outside my light-cone is dead to me. That's just a rule I have. If you're skeptical of the multiverse, go read our discussion of a similar article from
two days ago.
but I can see a lot farther than 10^1.42 meters
So Captain Ace Rimmer should be turning up any moment now?
What are the odds of me getting a date in this parallel univers? cause i dont want another place where hamburgers eat people and ./ love microsoft if i still cant get a date.
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If my twin is reading this, but reading it when he's younger (could happen, article says "There are infinitely many other inhabited planets, including not just one but infinitely many that have people with the same appearance, name and memories as you, who play out every possible permutation of your life choices;" then for crying out loud, make sure you get more than some over-the-sweater action from Amy L. back in what-was-my-1991. She'll go for it.
blarg.
when we find a humongous ball of mismatched socks that have traveled through the 4th dimension.
yeah, but that site is called ccolonbackslash.com
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Just do it yourself using a calculator.
10 ^ 1.42 = 26.302679918953819172897987967726
10 ^ 26.302679918953819172897987967726 = 200761262891390934801701916.81189 metres, or to make it a lot easier to read, 200,761,262,891,390,934,801,701.91681189 Canadian kilometres, or in American dollars, about $2.
This is a self-contradicting assertion, for if there were no such thing, then that means that the probability of that assertion being false is 0, which would make the statement false.
Logically, probabilities of 1 and 0 exist, somewhere, only they may exist outside our current ability to perceive them.
If I were to take a guess at something having a probability of zero, I'd say it would be something like a statement that was both 100% true and 100% false.
My brain hurts. I'm going to bed.
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
That was a fairly omni-ish article, but you gotta love the thumbnail pic of the "Multiverse", with the link below it: "Click here for a full-size illustration"
hey, someone should make a movie about that... they could call it "the guy who travels into parallel universes to kill himself and get ultimate power"
"Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything" -- Josef Stalin
Let me get this right: So this counts only on probability. Because space is big enough, whatever can possibly happen will happen?
Does that mean if I'm sweeping up a lab after a particularly unsuccessful party and I hook up a improbability generator to a strong brownian motion producer, like, say, a really hot cup of tea, then will I get a really neat spaceship that's shaped like a tennis shoe and piloted by a man with two heads and three arms and has a paranoid android abord with a shooting pain in all the diodes down his left side?
Here's to improbability!
Maybe there's a really really weird dimension where you're better looking than me!
"Derp de derp."
multiple universes are the ultimate gravy ticket for cosmologists. bah!
neither cosmologists, physicists nor mathemeticians ever come to the most simple conclusion, and that is that the fabric of the universe is SIMPLE.... i.e. the ultimate building block is indeed, the simplest of building blocks. not sheets, not donuts, not rippling membranes of goo, but a singular particle which exists on the threshold of reality. i.e. a mass of 1 / infinity... travelling at a velocity of infinity - 1/infinity, making blobs of goo in the void like an electron beam on a phosphor screen makes pictures or barney the dinosaur.
what's that? speed of light you say? it has no existance, so it can go as fast as it wants.
there are two numbers the mind cannot visualise.. zero and infinity, and for all intents and purposes they are the same number with the same properties... not only that, but they are interchangeable.
the universe is actually a sphere, where the surface is also its centre... an infinite dimensional klein bottle. and every particle is the same particle, everywhere at once.
matter, energy and anything else you care to dream up are summations in the oscillation, regions of probable existance. god went dot!
any theoretical reduction of observation or extrapolation of the simplest of ideas is an excersise in self perpetuation and justification.
proving this of course is as futile as the determinacy argument, because as douglas adams hinted, the question and the answer are always mutually exlusive. this is the nature of things.
but i digress.
It's because these theories are so far out that you could only prove or disprove them on paper. The idea of advanced extraterrestrials may be easy to prove (although hard to disprove), which is why millions of dollars a year are being spent on SETI. Nobody calls UFO believers lunatics because they believe in UFO's, but when they make broad claims based on nonexistent evidence they are (rightly) called lacking in scientific rigour.
Ha! I was put in this psych ward by my family because I said I could communicate telepathically with my double from another universe. They think I'm crazy but now I can show them this article and prove them all wrong!
Thank you Slashdot! You may help get me out of this unjust imprisonment once and for all.
Sorry, they're all busy washing their hair or getting eaten by hamburgers...
I'm sitting here, finishing up my thesis which is due next week, happily talking about the argument from design and generally relying on the fact that the multiple-universes model is unverifiable and thus irrelevant to my argument. Then I take a break to glance at Slashdot and what do I see?
Is there a parallel universe in which you used multiple paragraphs so that people would read your comment completely?
So the discworld must exist then! Fantastic!
There really is a universe where Homer is real, obscenely wealthy, AND it rains donuts!?!
I'm waiting for the day when it's readable by meerkats.
standing at edge of universe, waving at twins in the next universe over
Fry: So there are an infinite number of parallel universes?
Farnsworth: No, just the two.
Bender: Can we go? I'm sick of parallel universe Bender lording his sombrero over me.
Where is Sailor Moon? (And can I get her phone number?)
Little Brother, watching the watchers
Please refer to those terms as 'freedomgebra' and 'freedomgorithm', as we must boycott the enemy's culture.
Thank you
~The House of Representatives.
"I only speak the truth"
Karma: null(Mostly affected by an unassigned variable)
They say that if spaces if infinite with an infinite amount of matter and energy then somewhere in another bubble universe there is someone doing exactly what I'm doing thinking exactly what I'm thinking and oh wait exactly like me. In fact not only is there someone doing all this but there are an infinite amount of me's doing this. Even though the chances of it occuring being 1 in a freaking huge ass inconcievable number due to all the events leading up to me being here writing what I'm writing right now having to be coincidentally EXACTLY the same. But they can be, an infinite amount of times. So in effect I am aware of someone just like me who is aware of me and aware that I am aware of him. Isn't that freaking cool? Not only that but if I pooled my efforts with an infinite amount of me's to do something chances are it would happen given the right resources, which there are an infinite amount of. Unfortunatly we really have no clue if there is an infinite amount of anything. If there is like some believe and we knew about it then one day contact could be made between people exactly the same, thus rending them DIFFERENT. You can't be the same doing exacdtly the same things due to coincidence after you have met that person. If I met another chris (Chris1) and I was Chris2 and we were exactly the same in all our thoughts and actions until that point, once we met that would all change. First off someone would say hi first thus breaking the chain. Anyway I'm getting off on a tangent. Basically if we were aware of eachother we could take steps to find eachother. Say I thought "hey I want another Chris to pick up a cup of coffee". Somewhere in an infinite amount of space and matter another Chris would think "Hey another Chris want's me to pick up that cup of coffee". This gets real crazy but it's actually not only possible but 100% probable. SHIT EH! I wonder if there's a Chris president of Afganistan the most powerful nation in the world. WOOT!
I wrote this in my blog last month and no I didn't really give a hoot about spelling or grammar lol.
The trouble is that the doubles visiting this universe all happen to be Saddam Hussein's....
Can't we take a lesson from television and build a cellphon slider control that creates some sort of wormhole. We can Slide to parallel dimensions.
In our universe a meteorite caused the extinction of the dinosaurs. A parallel universe exists in which the meteorite missed Earth, and possibly several others in which the meteorite struck another planet or was not formed at all. In a parallel universe Hitler did not invade Russia and consequently won the Second World War. In yet another, Elvis is still alive.
Weren't those all episodes of "Sliders"?
LDS !?!?
Isn't that what Spock did in the 60's?
between the greater and lesser infinities sleep the dreams undreamt
+ 1 Virtual mod points for bringing up the DMCA in a theological discussion :-)
Gamingmuseum.com: Give your 3D accelerator a rest.
I think you've watched "The Devil's Advocate" one too many times... :)
Funny you should say that, I've never seen The Devil's Advocate. But if you're interested in overanalysis of a popular Christian country song, read on.... :)
In the song "The Devil Down in Georgia", Charlie Daniels depicts a story that goes something like this:
First, the devil shows up behind on soul-stealing for the quarter (or whatever). So he goes to Georgia and sees a kid playing a fiddle. He challenges the kid to a contest. If the kid wins, he gets a golden fiddle. If he loses, the devil gets his soul. Simple enough. Johnny's the kid's name, of course, and he says "It might be a sin, but I'll take your bet" etc. So, the devil plays, then johnny plays. Johnny, of course, wins, because no matter how powerful, dangerous, and evil the Devil is, he always loses. Upon winning, the Devil gives Johnny the fiddle, and Johnny says "Devil just come on back if you ever wanna try again, I done tol' you once you son of a bitch I'm the best that's ever been."
The Devil makes a deal with the boy. So he makes a promise. It's not gambling, it's a contest of skills, with the most skilled player winning. We hear the Devil play his solo, and it sounds pretty good. We never hear Johnny's solo (although in a live performance, they might play another solo for Johnny), instead we just hear the theme of the song replayed. True to his word, the Devil graciously bows, and hands over the fiddle. In a not-surprising display of poor sportsmanship, Johnny calls him a "son of a bitch" and using some other violently-charged words against the Devil. With humility, however, the Devil does his worst, loses, and leaves. While pride is one of the seven deadliest sins, we don't know if Johnny actually subscribes to them. But we do know that the Devil played fair and stayed true to his word, and was thoroughly mistreated by his opponent.
I like that song. :)
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