Content Syndication With RSS
The first three chapters are primarily discussing the multiplicity of RSS standards. While with some other technologies it might seem a bit excessive, remember that RSS is a forked project with the forks at this moment bearing little resemblance to one another. The abbreviations even have different abbreviations - RSS means Really Simple Syndication if you are using RSS 0.91 or RSS 0.92, that was developed by Dave Winer. RSS means RDF Site Summary if the version you're using RSS 1.0. The development credits in this case go to RSS DEV team. To confuse you even more, the RSS 2.0 standard is deciphered as... correct, Really Simple Syndication again.
Hence chapter 4 discusses Winer's implementation (simplistic and user-friendly), while chapter 6 focuses on RSS 1.0 (RDF-compliant and data-architect-friendly), and chapter 8 talks about RSS 2.0 (improved RSS 0.9x). Chapter 4 is available online as a PDF file. Section 4.4 is recommended for those interested in promoting their RSS feeds as it provides pretty good reference to meta data.
Chapter 9 is perhaps of special interest to Web developers and administrators out there. It presents several code samples to properly parse RSS and present the result in readable HTML. The examples include (a) parsing with XML::Simple in Perl, (b) parsing with Perl regular expressions, (c) parsing with XML::Simple and sending the headlines to cell phones via WWW::SMS, (d) parsing via XSLT transformation. Python, PHP and ASP folks might feel left out due to the abundance of Perl examples, but if you got so far in the book, you can probably apply the regular expressions example or search for appropriate support for RSS format in your preferred language.
Going beyond the standard itself, RSS directories, aggregators and readers are discussed. Author makes a distinction between the last two by classifying Meerkat-like services into aggregators and desktop or Web applications designed to present the information to the user into readers. The chapter also provides information about Syndic8, its API, and describes the feed registration process. OReilly's Meerkat is also discussed in chapter, together with reference table for its API (you can make Meerkat generate HTML or RSS news headlines on certain topic or using certain keywords by providing a right query to its Web interface).
The book is quite a smooth read for a text describing the details of data specification. The chapters are informative and the book is not overloaded with useless information just to increase the page count. The tips are quite useful for someone, who is knew to the field and answers some questions not covered by standards (e.g., how often should you request an RSS feed, what to do if you're being screen-scraped, etc.)
I like the way the author divided the chapters into RSS 0.9x/2.0 and RSS 1.0 and kept two worlds apart. Most of the time you probably won't be interested in developing a feed to support both standards, but would like to focus just on one. The examples in Perl are perfect with me, although for someone new to Perl or programming in general those examples with abundant regular expressions might look a bit convoluted. Kudos to the author for not expanding on the topic, like many do, and providing an example of a script for RSS manipulation in every possible language out there.
What's missing? I wish more pages were dedicated to desktop RSS readers. FeedReader, HotSheet, Syndirella, Beaver and SharpReader are excellent end user applications currently gaining some popularity among those who'd prefer to browse the favorite headlines at a glance, instead of going to a dozen of sites every morning. To be fair, there's a huge list of readers in Appendix, and some applications mentioned above only came around in the last few months, which was probably after the book hit the press. Some sites also didn't make it into the book. I like DailyRotation and FreshNews that borrow from Meerkat's versatility and provide their own feed portal.
Overall, the book is a pretty good developer's guide to RSS standard. Accompanied with helpful illustrations and numerous tips it's an excellent resource for those unfamiliar with RSS and a helpful reference for those who have been doing Web syndication for a while.
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As both an aggregator and provider of content, I can safely say an entire book need not be devoted to the subject. Maybe a pamphlet. I guarantee this book is 90% fluff.
I think the ability to easily transfer information in real time is just going to grow with time, this is not a fast fad.
Go calculate something!
Am I the only one who likes to view website/blog entries in their original context (where relevant) -- i.e. on the webpage where it was published -- even if it means I have a really long "links" list?
Presentation isn't everything, but it matters.
Joe
http://www.joegrossberg.com
When is /. going to use the RSS standard instead of its current PITA XML format?
Here's the problem I have with content syndication/RSS.
It is difficult for a non-professional or non-techie to implement someone else's feed on their site.
I have content that is updated all day long and there are probably hundreds (at a minimum) of users that would love to add my content to their site via an RSS feed. And it would drive a lot of people to my site, too.
Unfortunately, HTML is about as limited as most of these people get. A lot of them probably aren't even that far along - most likely using WYSIWYG HTML editors.
All the RDF/RSS feed grabbers/users that I have seen are fairly involved perl (or other language) scripts that require a nice chunk of work on the webmaster's side.
Until people can implement my feed on their site with no more difficulty than copying and pasting a few lines of pre-generated code, then it's useless.
Here's Slashdot's current RSS page:
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c 1050
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Slashdot
http://slashdot.org/
News for nerds, stuff that matters
en-us
Copyright 1997-2001, OSDN
2003-04-21T16:33:48+00:00
OSDN
pater@slas
Technology
hourly
1
1970-01-01T00:00+
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So apparently we've not only succeeded in slashdotting Slashdot, we've gotten Slashdot to give us multiple duplicate posts! WE WIN!
Someone you trust is one of us.
How are sites that offer a Semantic Web interface such as RSS supposed to bring in revenue? They can't rely on advertising because the machines that browse the Semantic Web cannot be trusted to deliver advertising to a human eyeball.
Will I retire or break 10K?
Slashdot has been blocking my rss aggregator for about 2 weeks -- despite the fact that my aggregator is set to every 4 hours. The sad thing is I didn't really care because the RSS summaries were pretty crap. Not putting the full article summary (which in most cases is the article) is bad, Stopping in the middle of a sentence to do it is really bad...
I am not a number! I am a man! And don't you
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Are you saying put these in a separate section of the feed, where a machine can easily filter them out? Or would you put them in the main part of the feed itself, indistinguishable from a normal link, a practice which got a few search engines accused of corruption?
do I really owe you advertising bucks if all you do is link?
Try telling that to any major directory such as Yahoo!.
Alot of sites (the majority?) that offer RSS feeds are not designed to make money
In other words, the dot-com revenue model of "give away your product and make it up selling T-shirts". Or am I misled?
Will I retire or break 10K?
It seems like this would be a good way for major news outlets to draw traffic to their sites - if I could put a brief RSS generated bit of info on one of my web pages, people might click the link and go to the other web sites. So why can't I find any RSS feeds for major news sites like CNN and such?
Making an RSS feed is easy - I want to have RSS feeds of other more interesting sites avaiable to put in my own web pages. And that would benefit everyone, no?
Password protected feeds add real value to RSS for obvious reasons. You won't always want everyone to read your feeds
Diarist.com offers a HTTP Password protected RSS feed here. http://rsstest.diarist.com/
As I write this... There are only two RSS clients which can read it's passworded feeds.
1. NewsGator
2. A beta version of FeedReader
Free Web based FTP
1) Write an advertisement and disguise it as a "review."
2) Publish advertisement on web site as a real news story.
3) ??????
4) Profit!
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
I wrote a module for my site that caches headlines from feeds you enter in.
Check it out.
(You need to register to edit the feeds you want to subscribe to)
OddManIn: A Game of guns and game theory.
Cheers,
Mike
www.jmagar.com
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I would love to find an RSS source for a sports scoreboard. I have looked everywhere and all I can find are sports headlines. Anyone no of a source?
I've noticed that with most blogs, the content is actually placed into the RSS (HTML tags and all in some cases). Some of the bigger sites that offer feeds (/., News.com, etc.) provide a headline and then maybe a 40 character summary.
/.'s case, I'm consuimng the headlines via an aggregator, but all I'm seeing is a link and the article headline. I still go to the site to read the full content and the comments, so I'm still seeing the banner ads and such.
In
The key is putting limited information, so you can draw the user to the site if you're trying to generate revenu from your content. Then, you better hope the internal link referenced in the feed has some advertising.
-- jimmycarter
Everything in this post is correct. I fail to see reasons for negative moderation.
Why bother.
Mail? Put "slashdot" in the subject to pass the spam filters.
Just to let you know: Full featured RSS support ist scheduled for KDE 3.2. See http://dot.kde.org/1049415292/ for more information.
This will include a RSS dcop service providing a powerful XML-RPC interface to www.syndic8.com, a new RSS konqueror sidebar and a rewritten knewsticker.
Currently everything is still under development but already quite useful (if you know how to deal with dcop...). Let's hope we will have everything finished before KDE 3.2.
if so, give up programming and computers *NOW*. and go find another job, please!?!
Not only can you read any users entries at:
www.livejournal.com/users/andrewducker/rss
but they syndicate over 1000 feeds in return. For instance you can add Slashdot to your friends list by adding user "Slashdot" or going to:
http://www.livejournal.com/users/slashdot/
I now read nearly all my news through syndication - you can see my total news feed at http://andrewducker.livejournal.com/friends/news
Syndication has my news gathering a whole lot easier.
My Journal
Slashdot's Palm page in an iframe is a nice solution for your personal starting page - if anyone still has such a thing.
because I have been enjoined by this Holy Office to abandon the false opinion which maintains that the Sun is the centre
I thought it was my aggregator too, but it turns out that it was Evolution, which was fetching every 10 minutes, even though I never read the summary.
/. readers refresh index.html, which is a larger file, several times an hour.
I think 30 minutes is a bit harsh, given the fact that many
So long, and thanks for all the Phish
It would be great if they sent the headline, the section and the first paragraph. That way I could look and see what articles I wanted to read. It's hard to tell what the article is about from just the headline (right Taco???)
Can anyone recommend a good RSS reader? I'd prefer webbased so I can just host it on my box w/apache and read my news from anywhere. Any tips? Thanks! cuban
check out www.newsblob.com It's another general purpose daily news RSS feed site.
Kind of useful, written entirely in Perl, and I've tried it on a Linux box with no problems. Not sure if it'll work with other OSes, but its worth a shot.
Go grab the two perl scripts and the cron job if need be.
http://www.disobey.com/amphetadesk/
it's everything you want, and then some. open-source (perl -- not just that, READABLE perl!)
ThinkGeek.com has an RSS feed
http://www.thinkgeek.com/thinkgeek.rdf
Where you can view all the latest stuff.
The advertising industry needs to get more up-to-date,
this isn't the 1950s anymore, and the general
advertising ballgame hasn't changed.
And it's even cheaper if you buy it here, plus the advantages of not supporting companies that abuse the patent system, and not giving a commission to users who post self-serving adverts on slashdot.