Andorion writes "How many comics will make it to the big screen, how many will be as good as Spiderman or X-Men, and how many will be as bad as Daredevil? Who knows, but the new trailer for The Hulk was just released, and it looks pretty sweet!"
lets hope...
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REBloomfield
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they stick to the story on this. I don't mind chaning bits to make it flow, but most of Dredd made me cringe....
Re:lets hope...
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Anonymous Coward
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Let's hope they include the sad walking away music.
Re:lets hope...
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Mancide
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I thought DD was a good movie for what they had to work with. DD was never Spidey in the comics, and the movie had to follow the Spidey movie which was huge, and I think a lot of people expected an edgier Spidey movie, when that isn't even what the comic was.
Daredevil wasn't awful, the vision effects were really cool and the sound effects were the first in a movie that I felt they spent as much time on as the movie itself, as the sound played a really important role in certain scenes.
I think most of you all are taking pot shots at DD because of Affleck, but he's really a good actor.
-- "This amp is special, see all the knobs go up to 11, that means it is one louder than other amps"
Re:lets hope...
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D.Throttle
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This is directed by Ang Lee, director of Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, Ice Storm, Sense and Sesibility, and Eat Drink Man Woman. I believe it is highly probable that this is going to kick major ass.
Re:I don't know...
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RaboKrabekian
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I think the nostalgia factor plays a huge part. Not only are you making a Marvel property, which is a hot thing right now, but you can also tap in to everyone who fondly remembers the TV show. (And any younger Family Guy fans who want to see what all the fuss is about).
-- "Moderate drinking can help prevent amputated limbs" -- Abigail Zuger, NYTimes, 12/31/02
Seems the most "comic booky" ...
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binaryDigit
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Of all the big money superhero movies. I guess this is the first one where the primary character is physically larger than life. The trailer makes it almost look like a photorealstic cartoon vs a "live action" movie with the scenes including the Hulk (and I guess technically those scenes probably are).
I was very surprised by how much of the Hulk they actually showed. I would have expected much more "teasing" up until the very end.
Damning with a faint praise
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secolactico
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how many will be as good as Spiderman or X-Men
I did like X-Men, but if Hulk's only as good as Spiderman, I guess I won't be going to see it.
That said, I hope the end credit roll to the tune of the "Sad Piano Music" of the Bill Bixby/Lou Ferrigno series (as seen on Family Guy).
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What's wrong with Quicktime ?
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dnaumov
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Can someone explain me why there is always so much whining about Quicktime ? For Windows and Mac, you have the official Apple Quicktime player, for UNIX, you have MPlayer and Xine, which both play Quicktime videos just fine. What is the problem ? I've been watching Quicktime videos under Windows, Linux and FreeBSD and never had a problem, am I the only one ? "It just sucks" is not a valid explanation / reason.
Re:What's wrong with Quicktime ?
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smoondog
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Agreed. Quicktime works just fine for me and I think that generally, the quality of quicktime can't be beat.
-Sean
Re:What's wrong with Quicktime ?
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The problem is that even though you can play quicktime under linux, doing so is still in the shady area of legality. There are no native libraries to read the sorenson codec. Currently, developers have to resort to tricks using the windows DLLs and bits from wine. As for some other complaints, it's a closed format, and protected by patents. The ability to do something isn't enough to justify it being okay. I want to be able to fully and legally do it.
Matt
Re:Another misuse of CGI
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Ah, the new age of CGI. Remember Jurassic Park? Terminator 2?
Back when CGI was used to create things that didn't exist, or create spectacular scenes and special effects that'd be near impossible to make with conventional films. For a while now however, CGI is simply the cheaper alternative. It's easier, faster and cheaper to blow up something in a computer than to actually rig explosives, if it looks real is irrelevant. It is a step back to the corny special effects of previous decades where the audience is asked to not look to closely at the screen. When CGI is used to create scenes that are hard to do in reality it is a Good Thing, when it's used to keep the budget down it usually tends to suck badly.
-- Wax-Museum Fire Results In Hundreds Of New Danny DeVito Statues
Re:Another misuse of CGI
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I just think this is an example of very bad and exaggerated CGI. As it stands now, it is little more than a high tech shadow puppet. Some of the things, like the Hulk running as if he were in the gravity well of the moon rather than the earth, and the over the edge effects with the tanks cannot be fixed. OTOH, I do hope the body work is not final. As they say, we have the technology to rebuild him, and the science to do a better job.
-- "She's a scientist and a lesbian. She's not going to let it slide."
Orphan Black
Are you high?
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In the trailer, Banner claims that he likes becoming the Hulk
Nope, he doesn't like becoming the hulk, he's fighting it. He likes it once he's gone past the point of no return, when the hulk totally supresses his own thoughts and replaces them with pure animal rage. And he doesn't like the fact that he likes it.
Why try to find a cure for his Hulk-ness when he likes the destruction he causes?
Because, if you pay attention you'll see that he doesn't like the destruction. Dunno what you were watching, but it wasn't that trailer.
Hollywood has never gotten a comic book movie right since Superman
lol! Yeah, right, because flying around the earth to go back in time was "getting it right"! Wheee, same thing for the comic-relief Luthor huh?
Batman was getting it right (the first one). Spiderman was giving the horny teens what they wanted, wich commercially is getting it right but not in spirit. XMen got it right. Daredevil...hell, I like that better than Spiderman (at least the wet t-shirt moment wasn't so damned forced and pointless).
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You can't take the sky from me...
The comic movie flaw
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Anonymous Coward
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The problem with live action movie's based on graphic novels (what you're all calling "comics") is that it's difficult to establish a sense of reality for the viewer. In a graphic novel the characters interacting in their universe is more easily accepted by the reader because every aspect of the novel complements each other within its own reality.
In a live action movie, though, the characters tend to look like idiots in lame halloween costumes because they can't blend into the real universe of our reality that they're supposed to be part of.
Seriously, if you were walking down the street and a guy in a Spidey suit came out of nowhere to save you fron some impending doom unknown to you, chances are good that you would either run from him thinking he was a freak or you would kick his arse until the cops showed up.
The Fatal Flaw makes the Hero
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PMuse
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The Marvel pantheon is full of deep, fascinating characters (as well as some real stinkers). The best of the Marvel heroes revolve around some fundamental question of humanity or some basic emotion. For instance:
Spiderman = Responsibility. Stan Lee's quip, "With great power comes great responsibility" may not be as catchy as "Up, Up and Away" or "To the Batmobile, Robin", but it's a lot more inspiring when you think about it. Pete Parker received a talent by random chance, an accident, something that he had no say about. That talent has been both blessing and curse to him. That talent is what makes the stories fun to read. What Pete does with that talent is what makes them meaningful.
Hulk = Rage. Bruce David Banner is a civilized, intelligent man. The raging child inside him is anything but. The writers of this book have spent years dousing for the sources of the ever-flowing font of rage that wells up within Banner's fractured soul. His father, his mother, his wife, his father-in-law, his employers. About the only thing they haven't thrown at poor Bruce, as far as I can recall, is children. It doesn't hurt the story any that it was the work of Bruce's own intellect (the gamma experiment) that set the monster within him loose. Now, every day that Bruce wakes up amid the wreckage of some unfamiliar place, he must ask "My God, what have I done?" of his actions taken both while monster and as a man.
Iron Man = Weakness. Bright and shiny on the outside, a lifestyle of flash and sparkle. But, within, there are flaws. Billionaire playboy inventor Tony Stark has a weak heart, is an alcoholic, and has no lasting relationships. Is his entire life a hollow shell? In addition, Iron Man must also deal with the constant possibilities that the handiwork of his mind, which is also the foundation of his fortune, can be so easily turned to evil by others. Iron Man, and to some extent the Hulk as well, must address the problem presented over and over in Tolkien's works: the creations of our intellects can turn against us to work great evil because all machines, once created, have no governing wisdom of their own. Bruce Banner's science opened Pandora's Box and found the Hulk inside. Tony Stark tried to create a better world through technology and learned that technology is equally powerful as a tool of evil.
Captain America = Idealism. Steve Rogers is a man of high ideals faced with a world filled with awful circumstances. Sure, he can try to fight the bad guy, but he's only human and he often fails. What's harder to fight are the situations where the country he loves hasn't lived those ideals.
X-Men = Alienation. While individual X-men have very individual stories, the series overall explores the question of conflict between diverse groups. The homo sapiens v. homo superior conflict serves as a metaphor not only for race relations, but for relationships between parents and children as well. Each mutant must deal with the feelings of isolation and loneliness they experience while acting out their personal mythology: "nothing like this has ever happened to anyone buy me."
Green Lantern (and Dare Devil) = Fear. Courage is an act that only those who feel fear can perform. I'm not sure that either of these characters lives up to their billing as being "without fear", but they both show that it's possible to act in situations that would scare the living @&%! out of any rational person.
To sum it up, every great hero needs a fatal flaw. The flaw is how the reader relates. The flaw is how the tale teaches. Stories in comics are just as full of flash and bang as any other mythic tale, but they can also be as full of substance.
'Nuff said.
-- "We reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals." --The American President (20.1.2009)
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they stick to the story on this. I don't mind chaning bits to make it flow, but most of Dredd made me cringe....
I think the nostalgia factor plays a huge part. Not only are you making a Marvel property, which is a hot thing right now, but you can also tap in to everyone who fondly remembers the TV show. (And any younger Family Guy fans who want to see what all the fuss is about).
"Moderate drinking can help prevent amputated limbs" -- Abigail Zuger, NYTimes, 12/31/02
Of all the big money superhero movies. I guess this is the first one where the primary character is physically larger than life. The trailer makes it almost look like a photorealstic cartoon vs a "live action" movie with the scenes including the Hulk (and I guess technically those scenes probably are).
I was very surprised by how much of the Hulk they actually showed. I would have expected much more "teasing" up until the very end.
how many will be as good as Spiderman or X-Men
I did like X-Men, but if Hulk's only as good as Spiderman, I guess I won't be going to see it.
That said, I hope the end credit roll to the tune of the "Sad Piano Music" of the Bill Bixby/Lou Ferrigno series (as seen on Family Guy).
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Can someone explain me why there is always so much whining about Quicktime ? For Windows and Mac, you have the official Apple Quicktime player, for UNIX, you have MPlayer and Xine, which both play Quicktime videos just fine. What is the problem ? I've been watching Quicktime videos under Windows, Linux and FreeBSD and never had a problem, am I the only one ? "It just sucks" is not a valid explanation / reason.
Ah, the new age of CGI. Remember Jurassic Park? Terminator 2?
Back when CGI was used to create things that didn't exist, or create spectacular scenes and special effects that'd be near impossible to make with conventional films. For a while now however, CGI is simply the cheaper alternative. It's easier, faster and cheaper to blow up something in a computer than to actually rig explosives, if it looks real is irrelevant. It is a step back to the corny special effects of previous decades where the audience is asked to not look to closely at the screen. When CGI is used to create scenes that are hard to do in reality it is a Good Thing, when it's used to keep the budget down it usually tends to suck badly.
Wax-Museum Fire Results In Hundreds Of New Danny DeVito Statues
I just think this is an example of very bad and exaggerated CGI. As it stands now, it is little more than a high tech shadow puppet. Some of the things, like the Hulk running as if he were in the gravity well of the moon rather than the earth, and the over the edge effects with the tanks cannot be fixed. OTOH, I do hope the body work is not final. As they say, we have the technology to rebuild him, and the science to do a better job.
"She's a scientist and a lesbian. She's not going to let it slide." Orphan Black
In the trailer, Banner claims that he likes becoming the Hulk
Nope, he doesn't like becoming the hulk, he's fighting it. He likes it once he's gone past the point of no return, when the hulk totally supresses his own thoughts and replaces them with pure animal rage. And he doesn't like the fact that he likes it.
Why try to find a cure for his Hulk-ness when he likes the destruction he causes?
Because, if you pay attention you'll see that he doesn't like the destruction. Dunno what you were watching, but it wasn't that trailer.
Hollywood has never gotten a comic book movie right since Superman
lol!
Yeah, right, because flying around the earth to go back in time was "getting it right"! Wheee, same thing for the comic-relief Luthor huh?
Batman was getting it right (the first one).
Spiderman was giving the horny teens what they wanted, wich commercially is getting it right but not in spirit.
XMen got it right.
Daredevil...hell, I like that better than Spiderman (at least the wet t-shirt moment wasn't so damned forced and pointless).
You can't take the sky from me...
The problem with live action movie's based on graphic novels (what you're all calling "comics") is that it's difficult to establish a sense of reality for the viewer. In a graphic novel the characters interacting in their universe is more easily accepted by the reader because every aspect of the novel complements each other within its own reality.
In a live action movie, though, the characters tend to look like idiots in lame halloween costumes because they can't blend into the real universe of our reality that they're supposed to be part of.
Seriously, if you were walking down the street and a guy in a Spidey suit came out of nowhere to save you fron some impending doom unknown to you, chances are good that you would either run from him thinking he was a freak or you would kick his arse until the cops showed up.
The Marvel pantheon is full of deep, fascinating characters (as well as some real stinkers). The best of the Marvel heroes revolve around some fundamental question of humanity or some basic emotion. For instance:
Spiderman = Responsibility. Stan Lee's quip, "With great power comes great responsibility" may not be as catchy as "Up, Up and Away" or "To the Batmobile, Robin", but it's a lot more inspiring when you think about it. Pete Parker received a talent by random chance, an accident, something that he had no say about. That talent has been both blessing and curse to him. That talent is what makes the stories fun to read. What Pete does with that talent is what makes them meaningful.
Hulk = Rage. Bruce David Banner is a civilized, intelligent man. The raging child inside him is anything but. The writers of this book have spent years dousing for the sources of the ever-flowing font of rage that wells up within Banner's fractured soul. His father, his mother, his wife, his father-in-law, his employers. About the only thing they haven't thrown at poor Bruce, as far as I can recall, is children. It doesn't hurt the story any that it was the work of Bruce's own intellect (the gamma experiment) that set the monster within him loose. Now, every day that Bruce wakes up amid the wreckage of some unfamiliar place, he must ask "My God, what have I done?" of his actions taken both while monster and as a man.
Iron Man = Weakness. Bright and shiny on the outside, a lifestyle of flash and sparkle. But, within, there are flaws. Billionaire playboy inventor Tony Stark has a weak heart, is an alcoholic, and has no lasting relationships. Is his entire life a hollow shell? In addition, Iron Man must also deal with the constant possibilities that the handiwork of his mind, which is also the foundation of his fortune, can be so easily turned to evil by others. Iron Man, and to some extent the Hulk as well, must address the problem presented over and over in Tolkien's works: the creations of our intellects can turn against us to work great evil because all machines, once created, have no governing wisdom of their own. Bruce Banner's science opened Pandora's Box and found the Hulk inside. Tony Stark tried to create a better world through technology and learned that technology is equally powerful as a tool of evil.
Captain America = Idealism. Steve Rogers is a man of high ideals faced with a world filled with awful circumstances. Sure, he can try to fight the bad guy, but he's only human and he often fails. What's harder to fight are the situations where the country he loves hasn't lived those ideals.
X-Men = Alienation. While individual X-men have very individual stories, the series overall explores the question of conflict between diverse groups. The homo sapiens v. homo superior conflict serves as a metaphor not only for race relations, but for relationships between parents and children as well. Each mutant must deal with the feelings of isolation and loneliness they experience while acting out their personal mythology: "nothing like this has ever happened to anyone buy me."
Green Lantern (and Dare Devil) = Fear. Courage is an act that only those who feel fear can perform. I'm not sure that either of these characters lives up to their billing as being "without fear", but they both show that it's possible to act in situations that would scare the living @&%! out of any rational person.
To sum it up, every great hero needs a fatal flaw. The flaw is how the reader relates. The flaw is how the tale teaches. Stories in comics are just as full of flash and bang as any other mythic tale, but they can also be as full of substance.
'Nuff said.
"We reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals." --The American President (20.1.2009)