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Looking at Longhorn

ShinyPlasticBag writes "Paul Thurrott has an excellent preview of Longhorn milestone five over at his Supersite for Windows. It looks like this may be Microsoft's equivalent to OS X -- the next version of Windows will have a 3D accelerated desktop and other graphical goodies. In addition to this, it will include a journaling file system, so us mere mortals can enjoy what Linux Geeks have had for years."

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  1. In other words... by joeszilagyi · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...Windows 2005 will be Macintosh 1997.

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    1. Re:In other words... by Quarters · · Score: 5, Funny

      Only if they go back to cooperative multitasking, drop memory protection, get rid of about 99.99999% of the third party applications on the market, start making their own hardware and nuke all of the big name and beige-box builders, have really expensive peripherals, and charge an arm and a leg for it. Oh...and get a cadre of black turtleneck wearing, angst filled, coffee-house frequenting zealots to crow about it for no other reason than to just crow about it.

    2. Re:In other words... by joeszilagyi · · Score: 1, Funny

      Apple zealots are so easy to needle. Just ask them why they only get 1% of the floor space in any CompUSA store, and you can watch their entire world cave in on them as if they were a living, breathing black hole.

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    3. Re:In other words... by cioxx · · Score: 5, Funny

      in our defense, at least our laptops are thinner.

    4. Re:In other words... by KilerCris · · Score: 5, Funny

      From the front page of the site:
      upcoming Windows operating system technologies. These exciting products include Windows XP Service Pack 1 (SP1),

      Anyone else disturbed that this guy conciders SP1 to be an "exciting product"/"Windows operating system technology"?

    5. Re:In other words... by Lord_Slepnir · · Score: 4, Funny

      I applaud you. Now I just pray that thousands of black turtleneck wearing, angst filled zealots dont' come streaming out of the coffee houses and launch a jihad against you. Latee' burns hurt a lot.

    6. Re:In other words... by quintessent · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah. I really miss Windows 3.1.

    7. Re:In other words... by Prof.Phreak · · Score: 2, Funny

      On top of the fact that XP runs FASTER without the SP1...

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    8. Re:In other words... by christurkel · · Score: 2, Funny

      Ah! How uneducated you are, Grasshopper! Mac OS X has preemptive multitasking, protected memory and many, many third part applications, see? Wisdom comes from embracing the black turtle neck!

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    9. Re:In other words... by moosesocks · · Score: 2, Funny

      In other news, the makers of prosthetic limbs expect a large increase in demand sometime during the summer of 2005.

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  2. Those in glass houses... by BoomerSooner · · Score: 5, Funny

    You pull the plug on your linux box and corrupt a "slew of data" and someone else is a "retard".

    Move out of your glass house before throwing stones.

    1. Re:Those in glass houses... by Alsee · · Score: 3, Funny

      Move out of your glass house before throwing stones.

      Or at least open a window first :)

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  3. Re:Retards by harlows_monkeys · · Score: 4, Funny
    any of you old-school Linux users remember pulling the plug or hitting power on your Linux box back in the day and immediately screaming "OH SHIT!" when you realize you probably just corrupted a whole slew of data? I do.

    Sometimes it is nice to NOT have journalling. 1982. Caltech High Energy Physics VAX. Sunday morning. I am working on a program that has a config file in /etc. I want to delete the config file. Out of habit, I automatically type "passwd" after "/etc/". Oops.

    Solution: run to the VAX, and hit the power switch. I caught it in time! /etc/passwd was still there after the fsck. :-)

    Alas...the next time, I didn't run fast enough, and lost the file, so had to restore it from backup.

    The next time after that, the other sys admin got tired of that, and so made a hard link to /etc/passwd so that we could just link it back after I'd remove it. That was fine until I accidently copied something to /etc/passwd instead of rm'ing /etc/passwd. :-)

    So, finally they made a cron job that checked /etc/passwd every few minutes, and if it was good, made a backup, and if it was missing or appeared to be trashed, restored it.

  4. Reminds me of: by Virus1984 · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Microsoft motto: "we're the leaders, wait for us !"

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  5. Fisher Price by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    So how much money does Microsoft pay Fisher Price to design there GUI?

  6. Different name, same result by molrak · · Score: 3, Funny

    From the article, underneath a screen shot:

    Explorer.exe is now a .NET managed code application, but it crashes frequently.

    Well it's good to know that Windows hasn't changed that much. (yes, I know it's an alpha, but explore.exe crashes have happened to me in every final version of windows that I have used.)

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  7. Re:Please... by gyratedotorg · · Score: 2, Funny

    10 make_faster_cpus(intel)
    20 introduce_more_useless_features(microsoft)
    30 goto 10

    its a conspiracy!!! =)

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  8. Re:Retards by coldguy · · Score: 5, Funny

    See, seems to me that the proper solution to this problem would be to remove your root priveleges...

  9. I can see it now: by fireboy1919 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Macintosh: I made that stuff back in -
    Windows:
    Now slow, I say, slow down there just a second, boy, and lemme talk a little sense into ya! (If that boy don't stop talkin' he's gonna sunburn his tongue.)
    Macintosh: ..but I already...
    Windows: Whoa there boy! (Nice kid, but he's about as thick as a whale omelette.) You can't, I say, you can't just take credit for things that ya didn't do! (This boy's about as sharp as a pound o' wet liver.) You can't just keep crowin' on about how young you feel and how hard you work. You just gotta start bein' the best boy you can be and show those folks you can do it just as good as them!
    Now go on, I say, go on boy, an' show 'em what you're made of! Now git!
    Macintosh: Ah..yeah. Later.

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    1. Re:I can see it now: by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's not Longhorn, that's Foghorn!

      Chris Mattern

      idiot lame filter idiot lame filter

  10. "Oh! I have an idea!" said one Microsoftee... by Opiuman · · Score: 3, Funny

    In their quest to show as little information as possible into as much screen real-estate as possible, Microsoft has set a new record.
    "Oh! I have an idea!" said one Microsoft senior engineer to his underling, "Lets make all the fonts and icons bigger so we can ditch that accessibility control panel and replace it with a "My Yet Another Other Stuff" folder. "Oh yes!" shouted the underling, "and that way we can perhaps hide how painfully slow we make a super-computer crawl."

  11. Has anyone noticed the PNG pictures? by pierre.ch · · Score: 1, Funny

    Hey, soon this SuperSite will provide links to gnu.org Go go go Thurrott...

  12. Re:Glass houses and the like by iggymanz · · Score: 3, Funny

    3D accelerated desktop

    bah, that's all about using more and more computing resources to present less and less information about what is going on inside the system to a clueless end user. Well, they don't fool me.

  13. Re:Retards by Rellik66 · · Score: 3, Funny
    any of you old-school Linux users remember pulling the plug or hitting power on your Linux box back in the day and immediately screaming "OH SHIT!"
    A minor correction: it's "OH FSCK!"
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  14. Longhorn vs. RAM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    When I tested Longhorn a couple of months ago with M2 (i think it was), shortly after booting I noticed that it was consuming 306 out of the 320 megabytes of RAM in my computer. With no programs running besides whatever happened to load on startup with the default configuration.

    I don't care how good or bad the shell is if I am only left with 14 megabytes of RAM to run my programs after booting.

  15. Re:Please... by christopherfinke · · Score: 2, Funny
    I meant to say "...that kid in Jurassic Park", in case you missed the reference.
    Jurassic Park? Missed reference? This is Slashdot, not, uh, some other place where, uh, that would, uh, happen.
  16. Re:"Stacks" in Longhorn like "Piles" in Panther? by skt · · Score: 2, Funny

    Why would they call it "piles".. am I the only person that always associates that word with this?

  17. And so we see.... by MisterEGecko · · Score: 3, Funny

    In one of the captions: "The taskbar, Start Menu, and sidebar are almost infinitely configurable. " Where infinity is approximately equal to four. -- The Gecko of Mysteries

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  18. Re:Filing system by ukyoCE · · Score: 2, Funny

    At least for me the problem is being able to use the same data from both operating systems. I have to use Fat32 for most of my data so I can cross between linux and windows XP. I wouldn't even have XP installed right now if there was no file system that both Windows and Linux could read. I'd never even be able to give Windows a fair try for my desktop if i couldn't access my school work, mail, bookmarks, etc.

  19. Re:Retards by Alsee · · Score: 4, Funny

    delete the config file. Out of habit, I automatically type "passwd"... the next time... The next time after that... fine until I accidently copied something to /etc/passwd instead of rm'ing /etc/passwd...

    At that point I'd just rip the fscking 'P' off your keyboard.

    delete /etc/asswd
    Error: Unable to delete asswad between chair and keyboard.


    Chuckle.

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  20. WindowMaker?? by Billly+Gates · · Score: 2, Funny
    Wow, look at the deep blue hues and the dock at the left portion of the screen? What will the guys at Microsoft innovate next!

    Seriously, the colors are cool but strong colors effect productivity. Light hues or grays which the standard Windows desktop is modeled after is actually designed to make you productive. Just ask any physcologist or go to any modern school. Dark gui's however do excite emotions which Microsoft wants so people buy more of their products. Amazing!

    I wonder how modifiable the gui is.

  21. At what cost? by simetra · · Score: 5, Funny

    So, when you save a picture, do you have to fill out a questionaire? I can picture it now:

    Clippy: I see that you're trying to save a file. I see that this file has a .jpg extention. This must be a picture. If you're not comfortable with extentions, I can hide these for you in the future. Please take a moment to fill out this questionaire in order to save your file.

    1. Is this a photo? yes no

    2. Did you take this photo? yes no

    3. If you didn't take this photo, do you have the legal right to save this file to your hard-drive? yes no

    4. If you didn't take this photo, please type in the Name and Social Security Number of whoever did take this photo. (No information is being sent to Microsoft at this time).:

    5. If you're ready to save this, please click Yes. If not, please click No. If you'd like some time to think about it, click Later. If you'd like more information about Microsoft's revolutionary new file system, click Help.

    OK. Please stand by as the information about this file is verified with Microsoft (note: you need an internet connection to proceed. Click Set Up My Internet Now to commit to a 12-month subscription to Microsoft Windows (formerly MSN) and to activate access to your hard-drive.). Once we've verified your legal right to save this file to your hard-drive, you'll be given a short (5-7 minute) questionaire to provide further details about this file to make finding it easier the next time you plan to view it with Microsoft Photo Monkey. Thank you for choosing Microsoft!

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  22. Linux Geeks? by simetra · · Score: 3, Funny

    Am I the only one who thinks there's nothing lower on the food chain than a Windows fanatic? Like the guy on that webpage, or the creepy wind-bags in PC Magazine? As a Linux Geek, at least I have a clue as to how and why things work; rather than a boner from the latest cute icons and wallpapers.
    Cripes.

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  23. jfs comment by pigfukr · · Score: 2, Funny

    hahaha, once again linux users proud of a feature even os/2 had before them.

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  24. IE vs. e.g. by The+Monster · · Score: 4, Funny
    IE the system crashes
    Do you mean 'e.g. the system crashes'?

    Oh. I get it now. You just have the order wrong:

    IE crashes the system
    That makes perfect sense now.
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  25. This is just so we can.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    have a 3d BSOD!!

  26. 3d = fun, but... by msh104 · · Score: 1, Funny

    3d accelerated desktop ? much fun... but does longhorn have any "must have" features like an inproved default word program or at least a new version of that patiance game. why am i only reading about "look and feel" and not about the "great new progs"?