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VoidEngineer writes "Well, it's that time of the year again... the World's Largest Scavenger Hunt has begun again. (This is the same annual Scavenger Hunt where the students built the breeder reactor, for item #240, back in 1999...) Anyhow, you can find the list here. This year, the competition is between 9 teams and there are 307 items. Nerdy items include, but are not limited to: #2 From the fetid swamps of Lotan to the teeming forests of Jojojop, Endor is an ancient, mysterious, beautiful land, deserving to be rendered as a full-color map fit for National Geographic, circa TA 3019; [51 points] #46 Mobius stripper. Must be non-orientable. Must not emphasize the one-dimensionality of the stripper's personality. [28 points]. #98 A piece of the Space Shuttle Columbia with NASA verification [155 points] #101 A hologram of an entire team member. [50 points] #136 Explain string theory using only sock puppets. The Judge must understand. [19 points]"

203 comments

  1. My experience by shobadobs · · Score: 5, Funny

    I remember summer camp scavenger hunts -- we'd just have to look for trash on the last day of camp.

    1. Re:My experience by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please tell more!

  2. Columbia? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Am I the only one who thinks offering up a piece of the Columbia for a scavenger hunt inappropriate?

    1. Re:Columbia? by B3ryllium · · Score: 1

      It's also illegal.

    2. Re:Columbia? by Glock27 · · Score: 1
      It's also illegal.

      No, finding it is perfectly legal. Not notifying the authorities is illegal.

      In fact, finding a piece of Columbia is quite a public service. NASA needs all the information it can get.

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  3. Nerdy? by panxerox · · Score: 1, Insightful

    A piece of Columbia for a scav hunt is not Nerdy its a desecration.

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    1. Re:Nerdy? by hpa · · Score: 1

      Only if it was part of the space shuttle when it exploded. I'm sure parts which were replaced from the Shuttle while it was still operational probably exist.

    2. Re:Nerdy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Any part, past or present, would be goverment property.

    3. Re:Nerdy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ....and illegal.....

    4. Re:Nerdy? by NoSoup4You · · Score: 1

      That is where the "With NASA Verification" part comes in.

      Not that they would ever get it.

    5. Re:Nerdy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know people driving across the US as we speak to get a piece of the shuttle. Ahh, to be a U of C student..

    6. Re:Nerdy? by maxpublic · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Nah, screwing your girlfriend on the altar of a church is a desecration. Collecting bloody, scorched pieces of the Columbia is just in bad taste.

      Max

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    7. Re:Nerdy? by Pingular · · Score: 0

      (Score:4, Insightful) heh

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    8. Re:Nerdy? by CausticWindow · · Score: 1

      Yes, what would the heroes think of that?

      I can't think of anything more heroic than dying from flying into a bunch of birds. (No it's not official, and it will never be, but I've got sources)

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    9. Re:Nerdy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Been there.

    10. Re:Nerdy? by JabberWokky · · Score: 1
      Where did you get that idea from? I'm not saying it can't be true, but I seem to get the idea that they were way too high for birds when they crumbled.

      And desecration is in the eye of the holder. Myself, I'd like a piece of the shuttle in memorandum. Actually, I probably wouldn't because it would bug me. But if I did have a piece, it would be held with great respect.

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    11. Re:Nerdy? by Glock27 · · Score: 1
      A piece of Columbia for a scav hunt is not Nerdy its a desecration.

      Not if it's turned in to NASA as it should be. Then, it's a public service.

      You think it's easy finding a piece of Columbia at this point?

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    12. Re:Nerdy? by ax_42 · · Score: 1

      Nah, screwing your girlfriend on the altar of a church is a desecration.


      Perfectly OK once she's your wife though, right?
    13. Re:Nerdy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hahahaha, birds at 400,000 ft!

  4. I'd Be carefule if I were the hunters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    NASA has said that any one who is in poession of said parts will be liable for criminal conduct.

    1. Re:I'd Be carefule if I were the hunters by StaticLimit · · Score: 5, Funny

      NASA has said that any one who is in poession of said parts will be liable for criminal conduct.

      ... and 155 points.

    2. Re:I'd Be carefule if I were the hunters by Remik · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Did anyone catch the article about the worms that survived the crash?

      As a judge of this year's hunt, that's the only hint you're getting about how to fulfill this item, legally.

      By the way, the rules say that every item can and must be completed legally.

      -R

    3. Re:I'd Be carefule if I were the hunters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >NASA has said that any one who is in poession of said parts will be liable for criminal conduct.

      Of course NASA said that. But who do you think is sponsoring this event in the first place? LOL. (I'll give you one hint. NASA.)

    4. Re:I'd Be carefule if I were the hunters by fishexe · · Score: 1

      Oh, like that doesn't apply to half the stuff anyway?

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  5. mine... by Subnirvana337 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I remember back in the day, we'd bug the neighbors for different things, beer, wine, cigerettes, and ya know what? They actually gave it to us because they saw it on the list!

  6. Bad taste by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...#98 A piece of the Space Shuttle Columbia with NASA verification [155 points]...

    Does anybody else think that this is in bad taste? Why not ask for shrapnel removed from a Iraqi bombing victim or one of the envelopes that anthrax spores were mailed in last year.

    I appreciate that NASA may have given away or auctioned off parts of Columbia prior to the recent disaster but, legitimately acquired or not, why ask for a piece of that particular shuttle? Why not a piece of Atlantis, Discovery, Endeavour or even Enterprise?

    I'm sorry but, even though I enjoy a good scavenger hunt as much as the next man, I can't see how anyone could possibly enjoy the 155 points they could get from a Columbia debris fragment. (And, clearly, getting hold of a debris fragment is the target goal here.)

    Sick, sick, sick.

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    1. Re:Bad taste by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Maybe NASA asked for this to be added so that they can get the pieces that are turned in as part of the hunt.

    2. Re:Bad taste by Pilferer · · Score: 3, Funny

      ...#98 A piece of the Space Shuttle Columbia with NASA verification [155 points]...

      Does anybody else think that this is in bad taste?


      No. But I think it makes for a poor challenge. I can just buy a piece off of ebay!

      Pffft!

    3. Re:Bad taste by _ph1ux_ · · Score: 3, Funny

      Ya they shoulda asked for a piece of Challenger. I mean c'mon - every body in rural texas had a piece of Columbia dropped in their back yards.

      How come all the shuttles that explode start in 'C'?

    4. Re:Bad taste by Quixote · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I agree with you in principle, but it could be that they are asking for a piece of Columbia that need not necessarily be debris; it could be a piece that NASA had given out in the past. Obviously, a debris piece would not be allowed by NASA to be taken away (hence the "NASA verification" rider).

      See, for example, this.

    5. Re:Bad taste by B3ryllium · · Score: 4, Informative

      Re-reading the article, I see that it says "With NASA verification". That firmly indicates that it should be a pre-explosion item, and not a piece of debris.

    6. Re:Bad taste by _ph1ux_ · · Score: 1

      Well then how come all of them had the only non nasa astronaughts on them ever.

      I smell The Man... :P

    7. Re:Bad taste by Wavicle · · Score: 1

      but it could be that they are asking for a piece of Columbia that need not necessarily be debris; it could be a piece that NASA had given out in the past.

      >>From the parent post<<

      I appreciate that NASA may have given away or auctioned off parts of Columbia prior to the recent disaster...

      (And, clearly, getting hold of a debris fragment is the target goal here.)

      The parent post already conceded that point. Don't backtrack. The issue was the bad taste that goal is in.

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    8. Re:Bad taste by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, you really are an idiot. There are non-NASA personnel on about half the missions.

    9. Re:Bad taste by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does anybody else think that this is in bad taste?

      Yes, as a NASA employee I find this disgusting. At least now, with the disaster so fresh in our memories. Perhaps in a few decades, for example, a "piece of the Titanic" would not be in bad taste. But now, so close to the accident, yes.

    10. Re:Bad taste by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who's the idiot - you have been trolled... and quite successfully, I might add. Have you know sense of sarcasm and humor when you see it?

    11. Re:Bad taste by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you KN0W cents of the 3nglish language?

      The original post is devoid of anything resembling intelligence - how you can possibly equate pointing out the similarities of one letter between the only two shuttle disasters and 'sarcasm and humor' is beyond human comprehension. Go shoot yourself.

    12. Re:Bad taste by wilpig · · Score: 1

      Listen up people, it doesn't say it has to be from the crash. It could be an offical souvenir.

    13. Re:Bad taste by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      Are the organizers of the hunt French by any chance? I seem to remember a substantial portion of their population rooting for Americans to die by the thousands recently.

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    14. Re:Bad taste by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      haha.

      It wasnt serious you dweeb - but you still continue to be angry and reply. The jokes on you cuz every word you type just makes it all the more funny...

      Good Day.

    15. Re:Bad taste by rrrrrick · · Score: 1

      I remember in 2nd grade (way back in the early 80s) a kid brought a rejected tile from the Colombia for show and tell. It was like heavy, solid, foam stone. His father was a shuttle tile designer. I got to borrow it for a day, it was like holding a really cool plate.

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  7. #308 by _ph1ux_ · · Score: 5, Funny

    An original Idea for the scavenger hunt that doesnt weakly attempt to show how witty, creative, pretentious and just plain lame we actually are. The Judges must look like the morons they are. [242 points]

    1. Re:#308 by mbw314 · · Score: 1

      An original Idea for the scavenger hunt that doesnt weakly attempt to show how witty, creative, pretentious and just plain lame we actually are. The Judges must look like the morons they are. [242 points]

      Finding such an idea would require finding someone at the U of C who does not display these qualities. ...Yeah, I guess that would be pretty challenging.

  8. string theory sock puppets by everyplace · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What's funny about this item is that last year I wrote up a PBS-oriented kids show, about a mad professor black hole (think of a black sock puppet with a mustache, googley eyes, and a black swirley patterned outfit) called "The Great Abyss". He went around talking with his sidekick, every now and then making hilarous jokes about Twistor Theory.

    I'm sure we could dig up the old material if anyone wanted to adapt it to string theory. Heh.

  9. Re:Sexist. by autocracy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Holy shit, get over it. Besides, next time you hear something called "Chipendales" (or however it's spelled) is near your town, offer some woman a ticket - I'm sure she'll be interested in taking it... Maybe it's the assholes that try to make everything politically correct that make life suck so much.

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  10. Sock puppets by Quixote · · Score: 2, Funny
    #136 Explain string theory using only sock puppets. [19 points]

    For some of my (former) TAs, this would be 19 easy points.

    Wait.. they said "The Judge must understand. ". Oops, never mind.

    1. Re:Sock puppets by Mac+Degger · · Score: 1

      Nah, you just have to make 'em think they understand...that's a lot easier :)

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  11. Re:Sexist. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ah, there are male strippers.

  12. make it REAL hard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    how about a LUG member who has had sex?

    1. Re:make it REAL hard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      You forgot to add "with a girl."

    2. Re:make it REAL hard by d3kk · · Score: 1

      You forgot to add "with a girl."

      Double points if said LUG member is a girl herself.

    3. Re:make it REAL hard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A girl? What does that matter? Triple points if it's with a member of the same sex.

    4. Re:make it REAL hard by fishexe · · Score: 1

      > how about a LUG member who has had sex?

      Only if you don't count the married ones.

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    5. Re:make it REAL hard by asynchronous13 · · Score: 1

      there is an all-female university nearby, around here LUG means "Lesbian Until Graduation".

    6. Re:make it REAL hard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You forgot to add "of legal age."

  13. Re:Well atleast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    item #95: Ignorant shit with no life, ::parent post::

  14. Sexist? Against whom? by Schezar · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Umm, who said it had to be a woman?

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  15. My favorite, #103 by xintegerx · · Score: 3, Funny

    (Note: a 'phrenologist' is a guy who studies the brain by the bumps on the skull.)
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    Points: (IQ of Judge) / 10, with IQ as determined by the phrenologist.

    Double points if you have a licensed phrenologist."

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    1. Re:My favorite, #103 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought those guys were called "physiognomists", myself.

    2. Re:My favorite, #103 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      After having completed my examination, I find your IQ to be 47 million. I want my 4.7million points.

  16. Re:Sexist? Against whom? by B3ryllium · · Score: 1

    On top of that, how many women do you know named "Mobius"?

  17. Additional item by Gefiltefish · · Score: 5, Funny


    308. _______ An clear and understandable methodology that will enable scavenger hunt organizers and judges to get a date, finally! [532 points for an actual woman] [54 points for compliant farm animals]

    1. Re:Additional item by pertelote · · Score: 1

      Methodology:
      1) Talk to females as if they are fellow human beings and not alien invaders,
      2) Treat female humans as having feelings, the exact same ones you have.
      3) Include female humans in your games, plans and jokes,
      4)and thereby, discover that we are fun for more than one thing, and you will succeed! (Yes, this female geek is waiting for a date!) :)

    2. Re:Additional item by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If she's a cow, do you get 586 points? ;-)

    3. Re:Additional item by Mr.+Bubbles712 · · Score: 1

      I have a bad feeling this person just had a mailbox full of date proposals.

      Sorry I can't spell, up since thursday, or was it wednsday?

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    4. Re:Additional item by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Its quite easy. First, become a high jumper, and become able to jump a minimum of 6 feet. high. Then, go up to some hot chick, and say "I can jump over your head."

      Guaranteed you will get into a conversation.

  18. Yarr! by Schezar · · Score: 1

    #158. Yarr!

    (Of course, I must assume that all slashdotters actually read the article like good... um.. slashdotters.)

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  19. Re:Sexist? Against whom? by Schezar · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just one. Her arguments are all totally one-sided.

    -rimshot-

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  20. Re:Sexist. by zilly · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Who said strippers have to be women? Or could it be that you're the sexist asshole here?

  21. Re:Sexist. by NtroP · · Score: 1

    You are assuming that it isn't a male stripper. I knew a very good stripper that worked at a printing shop. He was male. ;-)

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  22. Re:Sexist. by SuperBanana · · Score: 4, Insightful
    A "mobius stripper"? Why is it always with the nerdy population that we find such blatant sexism and a desire to exploit women?

    Why is it always with the feminists that we find such blatant cluelessness and absolutely ZERO sense of humor?

    Like the people who bitched about the NASA thing, get a grip! This is the group that put a breeder reactor on last year's list. They're JOKES, nobody seriously expects people to do it. Go on. Read the damn list, it's hillarious.

    Are you people still wondering why no women want to enter the fields of engineering or computer science? It's a hostile environment, plain and simple, and you assholes are the cause.

    Isn't it funny how the people who bitch the loudest about stereotypes, never hesistate to use 'em themselves? Your statement is about as true as "all girls like frilly dresses, dolls, and playing dress-up, and hate math." I've also seen the same women who complain about men treating them like 'sex objects', oogle at a guy in tight jeans. Get a grip, it's called sexual attraction, and it's natural in BOTH sexes.

    By the way, most CS/Engineering types I knew in college were -scared- of women, not beer-guzzling chauvenist pigs. They were some of the nicest, most intelligent, well-balanced people I knew. Pick someone else to vent your "I hate the world" rage on, please.

    PS, you're still using a written-by-male-pigs spell-check, otherwise your post would have spelled womyn correctly!

  23. Re:Sexist. by Ephemeriis · · Score: 1

    Since when are women the only strippers around? Last time I checked, we had a male strip club right across town.

    yrs,
    Ephemeriis

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  24. lapse of television by UniverseIsADoughnut · · Score: 3, Funny

    #136 Explain string theory using only sock puppets. The Judge must understand. [19 points]"

    Anyone else feel that Mr. Rodgers or Seaseme Street ruined our childhoods by not doing this.

    see the Count, count dimensions....it could work

    Yes they are muppets, but it's still just a glorified sock puppet.

    1. Re:lapse of television by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1
      "Anyone else feel that Mr. Rodgers or Seaseme Street ruined our childhoods by not doing this.

      #504 A typical example of someone on Slashdot butchering the spelling of not one, but two childhood memories. [1 point]

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  25. Get a grip by SuperBanana · · Score: 3, Insightful
    A "mobius stripper"? Why is it always with the nerdy population that we find such blatant sexism and a desire to exploit women?

    Why is it always with the feminists that we find such blatant cluelessness and absolutely ZERO sense of humor?

    Like the people who bitched about the NASA thing, get a grip! This is the group that put a breeder reactor on last year's list. They're JOKES, nobody seriously expects people to do a lot of the items; they're there for laughs. Go on. Read the damn list, it's hillarious.

    Are you people still wondering why no women want to enter the fields of engineering or computer science? It's a hostile environment, plain and simple, and you assholes are the cause.

    Isn't it funny how the people who bitch the loudest about stereotypes, never hesistate to use 'em themselves? Your statement is about as true as "all girls like frilly dresses, dolls, and playing dress-up, and hate math." You've just blanket-labelled the CS and engineering profession as male pigs.

    Most CS/Engineering types I knew in college were practically -scared- of women, not beer-guzzling chauvenist pigs. They were some of the nicest, most intelligent, well-balanced people I knew, and a number of them were involved in long-term relationships with rather indepentent, intelligent women. Pick someone else to vent your "I hate the world" rage on, please.

    PS, you're still using a written-by-male-pigs spell-check, otherwise your post would have spelled womyn correctly, right?

    1. Re:Get a grip by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "A "mobius stripper"? Why is it always with the nerdy population that we find such blatant sexism and a desire to exploit women? "

      Here, here. The easiest way to win this one is to find a nude picture of Lawrence "Mobius" Fishburne. Sexism my ass. Plenty of male strippers, too.

    2. Re:Get a grip by thynk · · Score: 4, Funny

      Most CS/Engineering types I knew in college were practically -scared- of women, not beer-guzzling chauvenist pigs.

      Heck, I'm still -scared- of women, but I have good cause, I was married.

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    3. Re:Get a grip by Farley+Mullet · · Score: 1
      Why is it always with the feminists that we find such blatant cluelessness and absolutely ZERO sense of humor?

      Dude, are you sure it was a feminist, and not some troll looking for, uh, exactly the response that you gave?

      As they said back in the day, YHBT YHL HAND.

    4. Re:Get a grip by quantaman · · Score: 1

      Whoa! I didn't know /. got a new Editor!

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    5. Re:Get a grip by GuavaBerry · · Score: 1

      Most CS/Engineering types I knew in college were practically -scared- of women, not beer-guzzling chauvenist pigs.

      As a male chauvenist pig, I find your statement patently offensive. I prefer wine.

  26. Reasons for scavenger hunts? by Needanewnick · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think the real reason for these is to see how clever the participants really are. I remember doing quite bad at scavenger hunts as a kid because I was too literal. "Find a Fish" so I was angry because the time limit wouldn't allow me time to go fishing or to go to the store even, but wait, every other person got it! They made a "fish" out of paper, or drew one on the back of the item list.

    My point is that some of these are meant to be stupid or un-realistic. The challenge is to see if the participants can think in a way that isn't a straight line. How clever is the guy who got every thing on the list, but just went out and bought/stolen each item. How about the gal who was able to fake it and still got the credit. Better yet how about the other fellow who declared the whole universe to be an illusion, and won because there was no contest in the first place.

    Ignore me because I'm not really here.

    1. Re:Reasons for scavenger hunts? by gregfortune · · Score: 1

      Better yet how about the other fellow who declared the whole universe to be an illusion, and won because there was no contest in the first place.

      He won what?

    2. Re:Reasons for scavenger hunts? by Needanewnick · · Score: 1

      That is a very good question... but who will answer it?

    3. Re:Reasons for scavenger hunts? by VoidEngineer · · Score: 1

      At Chicago, the legend is that the scavenger hunt originated because of a student, in the 50s or 60s, who was looking for a phone, in order to call home on mother's day. Since then, it's grown a bit...

  27. Re:Sexist. by localghost · · Score: 4, Funny

    Last time I checked, we had a male strip club right across town.

    That's nice. Exactly how often do you check?

  28. Three teammates? by yeoua · · Score: 1

    Can they be Me, Myself, and I?

  29. 1999: breeder reactor by evenprime · · Score: 4, Informative

    According to this story from 1999, the guys who made the breeder reactor were U. of Chicago physics majors Justin Kasper and Fred Niell. They assembled it in Justin's dorm room.

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    1. Re:1999: breeder reactor by Noksagt · · Score: 1

      Anyone have the full text or another story about this for free?

      Assume the article is:

      On Campus; It's that season at Chicago, and Ph.D.'s have taken a back seat to a degree of silliness.

      By Andrew Bluth (NYT) 997 words

    2. Re:1999: breeder reactor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      May 19, 1999
      On Campus; It's that season at Chicago, and Ph.D.'s have taken a back seat to a degree of silliness.
      By Andrew Bluth

      ''People think of the University of Chicago and they think the students are weird,'' says Tom Howe, a junior from Atlanta. Having taken off his chicken suit, he is wearing a cardboard crown from a Burger King Kid's Meal. ''We want to show that intellectual doesn't necessarily mean stuffy.''

      It is this philosophy -- that Chicago students can have fun if they really put their minds to it -- that gave birth to the University of Chicago Scavenger Hunt, a yearly celebration of looniness at a campus far better known for its Nobel laureates.

      Putting aside term papers for a long weekend, hundreds of undergraduates in teams representing dormitories and student organizations range around the campus -- and, this year, the North American continent -- in search of items that will never be found in a course catalogue. The grand prize is $500, but the goal, says Mr. Howe, is loftier: ''to make the participants maximize their intellectual creativity.''

      These were among the 339 items on the list for this year's scavenger hunt, released at the stroke of midnight on May 6:

      No. 123: A computer suffering a year 2000 problem.

      No. 262: Five Mensa membership cards.

      No. 167: A 15-foot-tall monument to Grimace, the McDonald's Happy Meal character.

      No. 40: A tenured professor willing to recite profane lyrics from a gangsta rap song.

      Each team works from an identical list; items are assigned points, based on difficulty, and the team with the most points by Sunday afternoon is the winner. The wording of certain clues often suggests a trip to a far-flung destination -- having a team member photographed with an Ontario police officer, for instance.

      Teams are often elaborately organized, with ''page masters'' assigned to each page of the list and at least one person operating a computer long after midnight in search of Web sites that will lead the team to cubic zirconia (20 points) or Chicago Bulls season tickets (15 points) or an autographed photograph of the Food Network star Jacqui Malouf (30 points).

      ''One of the items on the list was the 'street value of Mount Everest,' '' said Sam Hunt, a freshman competing for his dorm, Shoreland Hall. ''So we posted it on Ebay, and made it look pretty, with a nice picture of the mountain and everything. The bidding got up to $180 before we got kicked off the site.''

      The Shoreland team is run out of sixth-floor dormitory room of its captain, Ryan Miller. By the end of the weekend, Thai food containers litter the floor and at least three trash cans are overflowing with empty soda cans. The members have slept little if at all, and the room is a nest of cables that wire no fewer than six personal computers.

      When the phone rings, it is answered with a curt ''Command central'' and calls are kept short so that the line can be free for a check-in from the road-trip group, probably somewhere in Canada.

      ''From what we can gather, the road-trip team is doing really well,'' Mr. Miller says. ''Except last time they checked in, they sounded drunk.''

      Other items on this year's list included building a nuclear reactor from scratch (one team was actually successful -- this is the University of Chicago, after all), an edible iMac computer and a ticket to a local theater for a certain movie opening May 19. (To these students, the date needs no further explanation.)

      No one is really sure how or when the scavenger hunt began, but they do know it is a welcome break from economics exams and Shakespeare papers -- a way to demonstrate, in Mr. Howe's words, that ''we actually can have fun on this campus.''

      And how do you say fun on a college campus better than a keg toss? As part of the Scavolympics, a string of a dozen events before the final judging that teams compete for points in, all 13 teams came together to recreate a battle of the Civil War, to demonstrate a fig

    3. Re:1999: breeder reactor by Noksagt · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yeah, so I'm an idiot:

      ''People think of the University of Chicago and they think the students are weird,'' says Tom Howe, a junior from Atlanta. Having taken off his chicken suit, he is wearing a cardboard crown from a Burger King Kid's Meal. ''We want to show that intellectual doesn't necessarily mean stuffy.''

      It is this philosophy -- that Chicago students can have fun if they really put their minds to it -- that gave birth to the University of Chicago Scavenger Hunt, a yearly celebration of looniness at a campus far better known for its Nobel laureates.

      Putting aside term papers for a long weekend, hundreds of undergraduates in teams representing dormitories and student organizations range around the campus -- and, this year, the North American continent -- in search of items that will never be found in a course catalogue. The grand prize is $500, but the goal, says Mr. Howe, is loftier: ''to make the participants maximize their intellectual creativity.''

      These were among the 339 items on the list for this year's scavenger hunt, released at the stroke of midnight on May 6:

      No. 123: A computer suffering a year 2000 problem.

      No. 262: Five Mensa membership cards.

      No. 167: A 15-foot-tall monument to Grimace, the McDonald's Happy Meal character.

      No. 40: A tenured professor willing to recite profane lyrics from a gangsta rap song.

      Each team works from an identical list; items are assigned points, based on difficulty, and the team with the most points by Sunday afternoon is the winner. The wording of certain clues often suggests a trip to a far-flung destination -- having a team member photographed with an Ontario police officer, for instance.

      Teams are often elaborately organized, with ''page masters'' assigned to each page of the list and at least one person operating a computer long after midnight in search of Web sites that will lead the team to cubic zirconia (20 points) or Chicago Bulls season tickets (15 points) or an autographed photograph of the Food Network star Jacqui Malouf (30 points).

      ''One of the items on the list was the 'street value of Mount Everest,' '' said Sam Hunt, a freshman competing for his dorm, Shoreland Hall. ''So we posted it on Ebay, and made it look pretty, with a nice picture of the mountain and everything. The bidding got up to $180 before we got kicked off the site.''

      The Shoreland team is run out of sixth-floor dormitory room of its captain, Ryan Miller. By the end of the weekend, Thai food containers litter the floor and at least three trash cans are overflowing with empty soda cans. The members have slept little if at all, and the room is a nest of cables that wire no fewer than six personal computers.

      When the phone rings, it is answered with a curt ''Command central'' and calls are kept short so that the line can be free for a check-in from the road-trip group, probably somewhere in Canada.

      ''From what we can gather, the road-trip team is doing really well,'' Mr. Miller says. ''Except last time they checked in, they sounded drunk.''

      Other items on this year's list included building a nuclear reactor from scratch (one team was actually successful -- this is the University of Chicago, after all), an edible iMac computer and a ticket to a local theater for a certain movie opening May 19. (To these students, the date needs no further explanation.)

      No one is really sure how or when the scavenger hunt began, but they do know it is a welcome break from economics exams and Shakespeare papers -- a way to demonstrate, in Mr. Howe's words, that ''we actually can have fun on this campus.''

      And how do you say fun on a college campus better than a keg toss? As part of the Scavolympics, a string of a dozen events before the final judging that teams compete for points in, all 13 teams came together to recreate a battle of the Civil War, to demonstrate a fight between Aunt Jemima and Mrs. Butterworth, and, yes, to toss a keg.

      Competing for his dorm, Hitchcock-S

    4. Re:1999: breeder reactor by Rufus211 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I remember posting this last year, so I might as well Karma whore this year again.

      Yes, they did it.

      Here is /.'s article about it from the time:
      http://slashdot.org/articles/99/05/20/13202 56.shtm l

      Here is about the best explination I've seen:

      Here are the explanatory posts by the two guys who made the reactor on the University of Chicago local newsgroups: Enjoy!
      Alright, I just want to set a couple things straight, so here are some responses to oft heard comments the last few days:

      1. "I assume they used U-238 to get to Pu-239..." we did not start with any uranium or plutonium, that would have ruined the fun, and the point was to make fissionable materials. Our starting material was thorium, which can be found at any hardware store. we happened to have some in our dorm room... The final products were Uranium 233 and Plutonium 238. I'm not going to spoon feed the decay chains to anyone, you can figure it out yourself if you really need to.

      2. "You endangered the life of my son!" We created a neutron source using some shit we pulled out of a trash can. This source was safer and less radioactive than the radioisotope Americium 241 found in the smoke detector in each of your rooms.

      3. "Someone said your roommate lost his job because he built a nuclear reactor" Neither I nor my rommmate have lost our jobs since doing this.

      4. "I hear you paid another group to steal Plutonium for you" We did not steal Uranium or Plutonium from anywhere. Nor did we have anyone
      else steal some for us.

      5. "but to qualify as a true breeder, doesn't the reaction have to be self-sustaining?" No. A breeder reactor just means taking advantage of all those tasty neutrons flying off from whatever source you have, be it a sustained fission reaction or a naturally radioactive source. The best neutron source on campus would be the Physics Dept's neutron howitzer. But since the howitzer produces neutrons from the decay of Plutonium, you have to agree it would be silly to use it to try and make plutonium.

      6. "(I'll be really impressed if the two come up with a micro-fusion reactor.)" We'd fly back next year just for that one...

      - Juniper Tasks

      Just some clarification for the readers who've forgotten their nuclear physics:

      U-235 is the fissionable used in the Hiroshima bomb and Pu-239 in the Nagasaki bomb. U-238 is used in fast breeder reactors to make weapons grade Pu-239. (U-238 is also used in fission-fusion-fission bombs, so technically it is fissionable with a net gain of energy but you need really fast neutrons).

      Thorium was to have been used in slow breeder reactor technology which turns out U-233 as its fissionable. (Is Pu-238 fissionable at low neutron
      energies with a net gain? The even Z makes me think not...)

      I thought you had started with depleted uranium to make a fast breeder; didn't know the thorium isotope available from hardware stores was the
      one used in slow breeders. Well, with a small sample of thorium and a neutron source, you can make the U-233. But with a fully functioning breeder don't you need some of the U-233 created to fission and transform the rest of the thorium without running away and slagging the reactor or damping out so you never end up with more thorium than whatever's directly exposed to your neutron source? I suppose the nuclear engineering definition of a breeder has to be more pragmatic.

      Fred and Justin didn't begin with any uranium.
      (Uranium, after all, ain't a commonly available thing.) They began with some thorium and an alpha source, which they just happened to have lying
      around. They used the alpha source to make a neutron source, and bombarded the thorium. This induced a chain of reactions, the final products of which were fissionable uranium and plutonium.

  30. Re:Sexist. by shivianzealot · · Score: 3, Funny

    A "mobius stripper"? Why is it always with the nerdy population that we find such blatant sexism and a desire to exploit women? Are you people still wondering why no women want to enter the fields of engineering or computer science? It's a hostile environment, plain and simple, and you assholes are the cause.

    A "stripper" is a job title which pertains to no particular sex, and as a male one, I am deeply offended that you associate my profession with one half the population. YOU try wearing a UPS uniform and spinning a cardboard box over your crotch at an Andrea Dworkin fundraiser, THEN you can spit ideas of "hostile environments" at me.

    Now I'm just pissed and need to go to the emergency room as my tongue has punctured my cheek.

    --

    Bored with karma, be a fan/freak

  31. Wait- Who said the stripper was a woman? by kriegsman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A "mobius stripper"? Why is it always with the nerdy population that we find such blatant sexism and a desire to exploit women? ...

    Wait, wait, wait. Where did it say that the stripper had to be a woman? Please review:

    #46 Mobius stripper. Must be non-orientable. Must not emphasize the one-dimensionality of the stripper's personality. [28 points].

    Unless I'm missing something, the requirements for Item #46 on the list could be fulfulled by either a man or a woman, as long as they're "a stripper." So who's making the sexist assumptions now?

    And topologically speaking, it might actually be easier to construct a Mobius strip from a man's body anyway, assuming of course that he's limber, big *ahem*, and stupid (1/2 gen[i]us).

    -Mark

    1. Re:Wait- Who said the stripper was a woman? by realdpk · · Score: 2, Funny

      Does non-orientable mean we must be unable to determine their sexual preference or do the judges have something against Asians?

    2. Re:Wait- Who said the stripper was a woman? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good show old chap. But I say, where would you hire one of these male strippers? Please, do say.

    3. Re:Wait- Who said the stripper was a woman? by Vaughn+Anderson · · Score: 1
      I think you all really missed the point of this one. A "mobius stripper" is one who creates "mobius strips" which are the never ending things you created in FIRST GRADE by taking a "strip" of paper and flipping one end and glueing it to the other end... and to prove that it was indeed going around for ever had to take a crayon and draw a single continous line along the strip starting anywhere and see where you end up... (at the beginning obviously)

      Take some pointless philosophy classes in college (or talk at length with someone who has, same thing really) and you will learn to be creative with your answers (not be like the brainless mob that only seeks the "correct" answer) and also be the only person to get an 'A' in your class and the only team to actually complete the scavengar hunt.

      If the judges were there to simply look at your list and say "good job" they wouldn't be "judges" they'd be referee's. That leads me to believe that if you bring in something more entertaining or thought provoking than the item described, but still does fit the description, a judge may use his "judging" powers to justify the grab... $.02

  32. initiation ... by kaamos · · Score: 1
    ... this gives me ideas for next year's initiations for ou natural sciences computer-oriented program...

    /me runs off screaming " .... 3. PROFIT!"

    --
    In Canada, we don't fancy things like socks
  33. Or possibly... by Corvaith · · Score: 1

    ...that one must be one of the people with *legitimate* access to the actual debris? And while it was, yes, a tragedy, that'd point to one of the people actually looking for the *answers*, which I don't think is in bad taste at all.

  34. I like #97 by evenprime · · Score: 5, Funny

    In honor of our new Freedom of Information, inform as many people as you can of the home phone numbers of John Poindexter, John Ashcroft and Tom Ridge in a massive publicity campaign.

    --

    "Weapons should be hardy rather than decorative" - Miyamoto Musashi
    I think that goes for OS's too
    1. Re:I like #97 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are flyers up with their phone numbers all over the U of C campus right now. Nur nur nur. ScavHunt rocks.

    2. Re:I like #97 by slaker · · Score: 1

      I'd think that the team that gets the most points for this would be the one to points for this item would be the one to post those numbers on slashdot. ;)

      --
      -- I wanna decide who lives and who dies - Crow T. Robot, MST3K
    3. Re:I like #97 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Get them here

    4. Re:I like #97 by BZ · · Score: 1

      That explains all the flyers on campus lately....

  35. Desecration by ackthpt · · Score: 1
    A piece of Columbia for a scav hunt is not Nerdy its a desecration.

    Perhaps only if the scavenger picked it up and hauled it in for a prize. If the scavenger simply points it out to the proper authorities and got a receipt, it could be a good thing, sorta.

    I'll stick with GeoCaching :o) (see journal entries)

    --

    A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
  36. #291 by dtfinch · · Score: 1

    It'd be funny, although sad as well, if the hardest working team forgot item #291. Forgetting it means disqualification.

    1. Re:#291 by Remik · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Every year there is a Judges/Captains meeting in the same place at the same time. Each year the item is described a bit different on the list, but the idea that a team could 'forget' it is kinda silly.

      Now, if you're meaning just the roadtrip...that's not an essential part of the hunt as a whole. It's certainly important, but it is possible to score high without fielding a roadtrip team.

      -R

  37. I really wish by iamsure · · Score: 1

    They had done an item:

    Verified and confirmed by Matt Groening - The one true state in the United States that Springfield exists in.

    And no, the official "No state" answer is not acceptable.

    1. Re:I really wish by Remik · · Score: 2, Funny

      In honor of Matt Groening, I got fed "Lobster Stuffed with Tacos" tonight, as part of item 159. I love judgehood.

      -kd

    2. Re:I really wish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Didn't it used to be the fucking capital of Illinois?

    3. Re:I really wish by gasgesgos · · Score: 1

      It's Kentucky.

      There's a Springfield Kentucky, and nearby is good old Shelbyville...

      That's enough proof for me :)

    4. Re:I really wish by Saint+Nobody · · Score: 2, Informative

      hint: bart gets a dime when he turns in a soda bottle to save up for radioactiveman #1 in three men and a comic book. only one state has a 10 cent deposit.

      --
      #define F(x) int main(){printf(#x,10,#x);}
      F(#define F(x) int main(){printf(#x,10,#x);}%cF(%s))
    5. Re:I really wish by faux+plastic · · Score: 1

      There's a Shelbyville, Illinois too.

    6. Re:I really wish by Scavenczar · · Score: 1

      Actually, this was going to be an item on the list this year. It was on Sebastian's list, but we cut it because we thought it wasn't very interesting.

      MK

    7. Re:I really wish by Remik · · Score: 1

      Check this still from the most recent episode.

      It shows as Homer sings, "I can walk from Springfield to Alaska."

      It seems to show pretty conclusively that it's Springfield, MO that he's referring to.

      -kd

  38. Re:Illegal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Meh, John Ashcroft is an alumnus of the University of Chicago. He'll protect us!

  39. #309 by cosmo7 · · Score: 1

    a correctly formatted version of the pdf with no bitmapped fonts (200 points).

    1. Re:#309 by Captn+Pepe · · Score: 3, Informative

      There is a reason the pdf uses bit-mapped fonts, and we are it. Our SavHunt team (the Lush Puppies Mark III, FIST Deux, Deleuzian Potato) uses a computer database with a web interface to keep track of our itemss. So, the judges used bit-mapped fonts this year to force us to type in the list by had. Bastards!

      --

      Quantum mechanics: the dreams that stuff is made of.
    2. Re:#309 by Ryan+Amos · · Score: 1

      Dude, if this thing is for geeks, what's to stop you from OCRing it? or even just converting the file to a graphic format and writing a ghetto OCR program. It can be done, I have faith. They just wanted to make it a challenge. ;)

    3. Re:#309 by Remik · · Score: 1

      I believe part of the problem is also the fact that the list is put together using Latex.

      -kd

    4. Re:#309 by _ph1ux_ · · Score: 1

      "...to keep track of our itemss."

      Your itemss? Your Preciousss Itemssss?

    5. Re:#309 by illuminatedwax · · Score: 1

      Hey FIST, you could have done that, or you could have looked at the PostScript version of the file. Ghostscript will search the file. Cheers, --Stephen

      --
      Did you ever notice that *nix doesn't even cover Linux?
  40. scavhunt by qcubed · · Score: 1

    tired... the list this year isn't as good as it was last year: we had to go rummaging around 57th st beach and dig for it-- meaning only two teams actually got a hard copy, so the judges gave in and released the list to everyone early. catch is that everything is in metric time, so my team missed item 291... anyhoo: in case any of you are interested: i finished item 66 a this morning at around 2: a uofc-themed pr0n site... after a short nap of 2 hours, now i'm on item 214, wolfenstein in the regenstein: use the quake level editor. another teammate is programming an entire game of tetris from scratch (item 58).

    1. Re:scavhunt by Remik · · Score: 1

      The only reason that it wasn't found much quicker was that the first people at the beach destroyed the markings that showed where the lists were buried.

      -R

    2. Re:scavhunt by slaker · · Score: 1

      And the URL for said porn site would be...

      --
      -- I wanna decide who lives and who dies - Crow T. Robot, MST3K
    3. Re:scavhunt by jp25666 · · Score: 1

      The story I heard was that the rain washed away the markings, but it's all just heresay...

    4. Re:scavhunt by Remik · · Score: 1

      No, it's not just hearsay...I was there. I buried the lists myself, and I was there the entire time.

      It was never raining hard enough to wash anything away...at best, there was a fine mist throughout the evening.

      People attempting to determine the 'pattern of the shovels' ended up messing up the whole thing, because they couldn't figure out the fact that they just had to dig.

      -kd

    5. Re:scavhunt by qcubed · · Score: 1

      the item that i created? http://qcubed.net/scav2/ i can't remember if i remmed out the popup generators... you'd best visit it using opera or mozilla.

    6. Re:scavhunt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Warning: He's not bloody kidding. Popup killers are more than advantageous.

      Jesus, the judges won't be able to find if you've actually done it.

    7. Re:scavhunt by slaker · · Score: 1

      Thanks man, that was a good laugh.

      --
      -- I wanna decide who lives and who dies - Crow T. Robot, MST3K
    8. Re:scavhunt by lommer · · Score: 1

      Since you are (apparently) a judge, may I suggest as an item in next years scavenger hunt?

      #x. _____ The login/pass for the account that gets First Post on the inevitable slashdot story about this scavenger hunt (no points if the post is AC, if there is a dupe, it counts too :-) (x points)

    9. Re:scavhunt by bl0nd13 · · Score: 1
      gimme a break, "kd", we *did* dig after only a few minutes looking for signs. and "just dig" *where*, I might ask. that was a lot of sand to cover.

      own up, man, it was a beautiful idea that went horribly wrong.

      p.h.e.

    10. Re:scavhunt by Remik · · Score: 1

      I would estimate that it took between 15 to 30 minutes from the time the first team arrived at the beach to the time a concerted effort to dig began, despite the fact that my only words to the teammembers present were, "Get Digging."

      There were markings, but whether they would have been satisfactory to speed up the search if they hadn't been destroyed is a question that we just won't get an answer to. They were destroyed by people clomping around the beach, looking for a patern to the shovels rather than looking for recently distrubed sand.

      I agree that it was a beautriful idea; I agree that it went horribly wrong. I don't think I have anything to 'own up' to.

      -kd

    11. Re:scavhunt by Scavenczar · · Score: 1

      Just to add a couple things. If the list release had gone the way I said it should have gone everything would have been fine. 1.) There were supposed to be 30 lists buried, not 8. 2.) The reason there weren't 30 lists buried was because it would have taken Moacir too long to dice up that many lists into little pieces but 3.) The lists should have been cut into quarters NOT 16ths. The Scavenczar is always right. And people should not have said "No don't give them any hints." They just dragged the whole thing on for way longer than it should have gone. Agreed. I good idea (Sam's originally) that went horribly horribly wrong. MK

    12. Re:scavhunt by Scavenczar · · Score: 1

      What makes you say that this year's list wasn't as good as last year's? Most have said they liked it better.

      Always looking to improve.

      MK

    13. Re:scavhunt by qcubed · · Score: 1

      i liked the big ticket items from last year. a bunch of really hard, really point-raking items is something i missed this year.

      that's the main reason.

      i did like the addition of more puns, though. elrond hubbard is great.

    14. Re:scavhunt by Scavenczar · · Score: 1

      Thanks. That was the first item I came up with this year! Apparently one team made a Battlefield Middle-Earth book. Brilliant!!

      MK

  41. The irony in this comment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is killing me.

    1. Re:The irony in this comment by _ph1ux_ · · Score: 1

      HAHAHAHA

      Man - this was good.

  42. 19 points? by idioMac · · Score: 1, Funny

    Only 19 points for explaining string theory with sock puppets?
    I know theoretical physisists who don't understand string theory well enough to explain in a years worth of lectures.
    IMHO this is an extremely underrated item =+/

    1. Re:19 points? by CrystalFalcon · · Score: 1

      I can explain string theory using puppets. Basically, you explain the theory that the machine needs either a length specifier, or some sort of terminator, usually a zero, to understand the string. This can be easily demonstrated with multi-colored sock puppets.

      This is a scav hunt, dammit, don't read everything so literally! :-)

  43. Re:Sexist. by stwrtpj · · Score: 4, Interesting
    A "mobius stripper"? Why is it always with the nerdy population that we find such blatant sexism and a desire to exploit women? Are you people still wondering why no women want to enter the fields of engineering or computer science? It's a hostile environment, plain and simple, and you assholes are the cause.

    You need to take this stuff with a grain of salt. I happen to be in the software field, and there are a lot of women in my office doing the same or similar job as me, and everything is as professional as you can get it. Yet these are the same people that would laugh at this in a context other than the office. Hell, I've met some of these women outside of the office, and they like off-color humor just as much as the guys. In the office, yes, it would be inappropriate. But what we're talking about here can hardly be considered in this context.

    This is not the right battle to fight.

    --
    Karma: Frotzed (mostly due to the Frobozz Magic Karma Company)
  44. Re:Sexist. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I happen to be in the software field, and there are a lot of women in my office doing the same or similar job as me, and everything is as professional as you can get it.

    Yeah, but are they HOT???

  45. Breeder reactor by gumbi+west · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    All right, they so did not build a breeder reactor. Even given the definition that anything that produced Pu is a breeder (which would make every reactor in the world a breeder reactor), they did not do it. You need U-238 and a lot of neutrons.

    While they claim that they observed emissions from Pu, this is not well documented and they may have simply been observing cosmic background or Pu desposed globaly from wepons tests or Am-241 x-rays

    1. Re:Breeder reactor by Remik · · Score: 1

      They SO did. I'm a Scavenger Hunt judge, and the man who built it just received his Ph.d from MIT and works in the Space Labs. If you check the discussion from the post on this event from a couple months ago you will find much discussion on this point, and many people who professed your viewpoint being proven dead wrong.

      -kd

    2. Re:Breeder reactor by gumbi+west · · Score: 0, Troll

      i read the old posts and they showed that the posters did not really understand the physics.

      Recall that a Ph.D. in physics who knows lots about their research area does not know all of physics. I interact with Ph.D. physicists who know lots about their very specific area but know very little about, other core areas of physics.

    3. Re:Breeder reactor by Remik · · Score: 1

      Well, I guess you can't accept my word for it, but Justin and Fred were two of the most brilliant people I've ever met.

      They built the reactor, and you have an entire campus full of geeks to attest to it. If you think that everyone on the campus where the first sustained nuclear chain reaction occured couldn't tell whether the reactor was a breeder or not, then I guess we'll never prove anything to you.

      Physics is in the blood of half the student body here, and the wool was not pulled over their eyes.

      -R

    4. Re:Breeder reactor by DarkMan · · Score: 1

      Your argument is highly fasifiable.

      Namely, by removing the neutron source, the evidence for the breed isotopes would have declined. Return the neutron source, and the evidence would have returned.

      Now, I can't claim that this occured, as I wasn't there. However, I can recall that a member of staff from the nuclear physics group was called in, and was convinced that they had a working breader reactor going. Given how simple it is to prove that the reactor was having an effect, and that a breed isotope was observed, I think that I must go with the reacotr team.

      Nota Bena: Recall that a breeder reactor is one that manufcatures fissionable material from aterial that is not fissionable, generaly taken to mean that the reactor makes fuel for itself, but not nessecerilly (a pair of coupled reactors are still breeder reactors). They did not produce plutonium. They breed U-233 (A fisionable material), from thorium. Essentially, they noted that bombarding thorium with neutrons would result in manufacture of U-233, and that U-233 is theoretially fissionable (Not actually used anywhere). This is falsifiable - you could disprove this (theoretical) step. Next, they made a neutron generator from an alpha source, and put the two in sequence. Then they borrowed some gear (I forget what) to detect the emission from U-233 decay.

      In short, no one claims they made Pu, except you. Therefore assertations that they could not have made Pu is a straw man argument.

      Aside: The reason that this reaction is not exploited commercially is down (to a large extent) to raw materials. There is a large, cheap source of pure (as in, isotopically pure) U-238, as a result of U-235 programs (weapons and reactors). Thus breeder research was focused on using up that U-238 as much as the principle of breeder reactors.

    5. Re:Breeder reactor by gumbi+west · · Score: 1

      I might believe that they made U-233 from Th-232. However, when you state that "no one claims they made Pu, except you." You are way off base. This claim is made above and in the New York Timesarticle.

      Also, you state that a "breeder reactor is one that [...]" that's right, A breeder reactor is a reactor. What they built was a neutron source and a target, not a reactor.

      Finaly they probably wanted to observe the Th-233 decay (into U-233) which would be evidence of the existnace of the U-233, and much easier to observe. However, they are very few people who understand taking these measurements at near background levels because most nuclear physicists don't work near background--no reason and it is hard and not as useful.

      look I'm not trying to say that they didn't do something interesting, I'm just saying it is a little hyped up.

  46. stupid. by glwtta · · Score: 3, Interesting
    #98 A piece of the Space Shuttle Columbia with NASA verification [155 points]

    Stupid, and in poor taste. I am sure I'll get bitched out for being far too "PC" (never heard this one in real life, for some reason) or for not having a sense of humor, which would somehow apply here, but that doesn't make it any less stupid.

    Oh someone mentioned that they want it "NASA certified" so it's not debris they are looking for, well why the fuck don't they ask for Discovery, Atlantis or Endeavour then?

    --
    sic transit gloria mundi
    1. Re:stupid. by fishexe · · Score: 1

      Oh someone mentioned that they want it "NASA certified" so it's not debris they are looking for, well why the fuck don't they ask for Discovery, Atlantis or Endeavour then?

      Because getting parts from a shuttle that stille exists would be easier than getting parts from a shuttle that doesn't?

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    2. Re:stupid. by sprouty76 · · Score: 1
      Because then they wouldn't be able to see the reactions of people like you who just assumed it meant a piece of debris.

      Another point is that many of the parts are interchangeable between the different shuttles, so a piece of Columbia may also happen to be a piece of Discovery, Atlantis or Endeavour.

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    3. Re:stupid. by Zak3056 · · Score: 1

      Oh someone mentioned that they want it "NASA certified" so it's not debris they are looking for, well why the fuck don't they ask for Discovery, Atlantis or Endeavour then?

      You know that Columbia was over 20 years old, right? You know that the shuttles go through EXTENSIVE rebuilds after every mission, right? You know that there are plenty of parts more or less tossed out after these rebuilds, right?

      You know it's possible to have a piece of Columbia that is not debris from the shuttle's demise.... right?

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      What part of "shall not be infringed" is so hard to understand?
    4. Re:stupid. by rat7307 · · Score: 1

      They have been selling old bits of verified thermal protective shield for eons at museum shops globally. All verified as the real deal

      Relax Guy!!!

      As Columbia was the first manned shuttle, it has a lot of memorabilia available...

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      Burma?
    5. Re:stupid. by Scavenczar · · Score: 1

      People really should lighten up. If this puts you off you should see older lists. Last year we made a thousand jokes about terrorism. We're all going to hell and we know it. In ScavHunt nothing is sacred. Sorry. But if you're complaining about this item, then ScavHunt is not for you anyway. MK

    6. Re:stupid. by glwtta · · Score: 1
      You'll note my problem with it is not some sort of newfound sense of political correctness, propriety or sacredness - it's just what I said, when set in context I think this is a stupid idea.

      Just because some people might find it "offensive" or "politically incorrect" doesn't automatically make it a good idea.

      And I wasn't complaining, per se, just offering my opinion (I think that is what this place is all about).

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  47. Re:wow this is it people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Attention Iraqi citizens. The U.S. government needs your help in recovering nearly $1 billion in American currency looted by Saddam Hussein and his sons. Please be on the lookout for one hundred dollar bills with the following serial numbers:

    FB48720567D
    AB18805036H
    BG92277510D
    CB5821174 0H
    AF70291037G
    AE51243811S
    Etc. etc. etc.

  48. MOD PARENT UP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    nt

  49. Re:Apollo 8... (LONG) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Praise the creation, unfinished!

  50. Can Anyone Figure Out Why it's ScavHunt '211'? by Remik · · Score: 1

    I know...do you? Let's test the Slashdot smarts.

    -R

  51. MIT still kicks uchicago's stupid elitist ass. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    UChicago's scavhunt: Pandering to judges, indefinite goals, monetary prize for winning team.

    MIT's Mystery Hunt: Puzzles with definite solutions. Done for the hell of it. Winning team administers the next year's competition. Find the coin.

    1. Re:MIT still kicks uchicago's stupid elitist ass. by Remik · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      That's the major difference between most people that go to MIT and those that choose U of C: At U of C, we actually have creativity, and rather than choosing items that are 100% definately realizable in one and only one way, we allow for each team to interpret the list in their own way. It's like 10 different groups of actors performing a Shakespeare play, you're never going to get the same performance out of any 2, but each one will be spectacular in it's own ways.

      Judging a contest where every team brought the exact same items must get extrememly boring.

      -R

    2. Re:MIT still kicks uchicago's stupid elitist ass. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obviously someone from MIT has mod points.

      The parent speaks the truth, by the way.

    3. Re:MIT still kicks uchicago's stupid elitist ass. by bl0nd13 · · Score: 1

      1) Pandering my ass. I do everything in my power to make fun of the poor bastards. Like throwing the socks I'd been using to stuff my underwear for the fashion right at them so Sam "Scavvy" Hunt had to catch them. And I had been too busy to shower for the last three days. 2) Monetary Prize? When was the last time this actually got paid out? And it's on the order of $500 for the *whole* team. The winning teams usually consist of ~50 members. So $10 each is a prize? That's barely a reimbursement for the duct tape and aluminum foil I used this year to convert an Acura Integra into Marty McFly's delorian! 3) Elitist? WTF? We're in Chicago, for frag's sake! 4) We have a Humanities program, so neaner, neaner , neaner. bl0nd13 PS: When's the last time an MIT student set Lake Eerie on fire?

    4. Re:MIT still kicks uchicago's stupid elitist ass. by Scavenczar · · Score: 1

      hahaha. Sam will be amused that he got mentioned on Slashdot. hahaha. Funny comments, potato ears. Okay I'm out of here. Maybe I'll check back after next year's ScavHunt. MK

  52. That's an easy one. by fishexe · · Score: 1

    Just find whatever state has a Shelbeyville, and it'll have a springfield too!

    Any additional states having Shelbeyvilles must be destroyed immediately.

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    "I don't care about the Constitution!" --Bill O'Reilly, November 17, 2009
  53. Where's the "Reality TV" people when you need um? by mabhatter654 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This would make a wicked "reality TV" special! Of course it would have to be Nickeloden or Discovery channel, but it would do wonders to actually show something "useful" like this on Kids TV. [edited for content of course, but anymore that's not a big deal!]

  54. You bastard. by fishexe · · Score: 1

    Any minute now I'm going to succumb to the urge to figure out what that says.

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    "I don't care about the Constitution!" --Bill O'Reilly, November 17, 2009
  55. I've got it!! by fishexe · · Score: 1

    211 is hex for 529!

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    "I don't care about the Constitution!" --Bill O'Reilly, November 17, 2009
    1. Re:I've got it!! by bl0nd13 · · Score: 1
      2003 AD is 211 years since the French Revolution. Hence the replacement of the days of the week with Nonidi, Decadi, etc. on the list. Also the reason for the decimal hours listings: the captain/judge meeting at 3h33 happened at 8:00 AM.

      Had that figured out 15 minutes into the list (~3.25 AM, Thursday).

      Now, try this one on for size: "Rockford. Knutson, Elixir. Lost I.D...". Note that there is a spelling error hear for which I shall whip one of the judges as soon as I've slept enough to move.

      Yrs,
      Potato Head Ears
      Uber-Tuter for Road-Trip Coordination
      Lush Puppies, Mark III: The F.I.S.T. Deux: Deleuzean Potato

    2. Re:I've got it!! by fishexe · · Score: 1

      2003 AD is 211 years since the French Revolution.

      Yeah...as far as I got was figuring out that 211 was the number of years after 1792. I originally assumed it was a non-decimal number, but when I saw the 223 being used for 2015 in the back to the future 2 related item, I knew that couldn't be right.

      "Rockford. Knutson, Elixir. Lost I.D...". Note that there is a spelling error hear for which I shall whip one of the judges as soon as I've slept enough to move.

      I found it!!!
      No seriously, I don't see the spelling error in "Rockford. Knutson, Elixir. Lost I.D.."

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      "I don't care about the Constitution!" --Bill O'Reilly, November 17, 2009
    3. Re:I've got it!! by bl0nd13 · · Score: 1
      Really? What'd you get?

      Hint: It's actually spelled EliXur.

      bl0nd13
      a.k.a.
      Potato Head Ears

  56. Scav Hunt by illuminatedwax · · Score: 1

    The point of the item is not to get a piece of the Columbia, but rather the NASA signature, which would be impossible for an actual piece of the Columbia.
    Now, as a Public Service, Phoenix Does Dallas Presents:
    John Poindexter: (301) 424-6613
    John Ashcroft: (816) 471-7141
    vacation home: (573) 334-7044
    Tom Ridge: (610) 274-3276

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    1. Re:Scav Hunt by slaker · · Score: 1

      Mod this up! This man's team clearly needs points!

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    2. Re:Scav Hunt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The point is to get a piece of Columbia from before the crash. NASA won't sign off on debris from the accident.

  57. Re:Sexist. by GigsVT · · Score: 1

    Hah, a printing joke. :)

    Too bad my shop is all digital so we got rid of all the strippers. Company parties just aren't the same with a digital assembler popping out of the cake.

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  58. Re:Where's the "Reality TV" people when you need u by Remik · · Score: 1

    Check out The Hunt.

    -R

  59. Holy fuck! Skeet surfing!? by CrystalFalcon · · Score: 1

    Skeet Surfing is on the list (#15)!

    This is the sport introduced in the Top Secret! movie (1984), where you shoot skeets while surfing... and that's surfing as in ON A SURFBOARD. ON WATER. ON HIGH, TRICKY WAVES. WITH A LOADED SHOTGUN. This has got to be the world's most difficult sport to master...

  60. Some at NASA have a sense of humor by bluGill · · Score: 1

    I have no doupt that somewhere there is a piece of derbies that they will let you borrow for a short time. I don't think a piece of the arm mount is of much use to the investigation for instance, so if they have that they can be talked into letting you borrow if for a short time. Finding the right person is likely difficult, but that is a different story.

    P.S. I know the arm wasn't installed, I'm refering to whatever part of the shuttle it would attach to if it was installed.

  61. Item 308........ by PS-SCUD · · Score: 1

    Lawn Gnomes! [Points: World conquest.]

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  62. Just a Glass a Day Keeps the Doctor Away by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    It's good for what ails you: urine drinking.

    Yep, lots of folks, even semi-famous celebrities, are touting the benefits of drinking liquid fresh from their own fleshy spigots.

    Puzzling to me, however, is whether proponents of "urine therapy" chugalug their drink of choice on the rocks or, as the Europeans do, at room temperature.

    The time I drank some, the liquid, golden waste was as lukewarm as the closed atmosphere of an old station wagon.

    My friend, let's call him, "Bud," has a bad habit of relieving himself into beer cans or just about any open container that will hold waste liquids.

    I don't know whether Bud has weak kidneys, efficient kidneys, diabetes, a small bladder or an enlarged prostate. But I do know the man can't hold nature's call for more than 15 minutes, max.

    He will stop a vehicle in the middle of a residential street, jump out and flood the pavement. Bud has been known to run to the closest alley, nook or cinder-block wall and spray a torrent. He has polluted many a public pool.

    Bud even has been cited for indecent exposure -- urinating in public -- such is the urgency always pressing on his internal reservoir.

    So it was that Bud had partially filled an aluminum can that once held cool, refreshing and fermented Rocky Mountain spring water. We were drinking Coors beer, shooting the breeze in the parked station wagon.

    I momentarily placed my brew on the floorboard. I reached down for the can, drew it to my lips and took a hefty swig.

    My conscious brain was expecting a swish and a swallow of a cool, malty beverage. What exploded against the nerve endings in my mouth and tongue, however, was warm and the saltiest liquid on Earth. A cup of water dipped straight from the Dead Sea would have been less-alkaline.

    The shocking taste triggered an immediate autonomic response. The muscles from my abdomen to my lips contracted and expanded in a reflexive spew. So quick were the response and rejection of the foul liquid that my lips never opened. The contents in my mouth sprayed with such incredible force through such a small slit that droplets the size of those from a perfume atomizer rained throughout the interior of the car.

    "Hey, what is this?!" I asked Bud.

    His hysterical laughter, his failure to answer and my knowledge of the contant urgency of his urinary tract were enough information to precisely identify the substance in the beer can and make my stomach retch.

    But proponents of urine therapy would have urged me not to worry: "Go ahead and swallow."

    Indian yogis reportedly have been slurping their own juice for more than 5,000 years.

    More than 600 scientists gathered in Goa, India, for the first World Conference on Auto-Urine Therapy in February 1996. Some proponents in attendance believe human urine can treat everything from baldness to cancer and AIDS.

    The use of urine as a topical rub and drink not only is common in India, but also in Japan and Germany and a growing number of countries.

    The Internet is home to the Urine Therapy Home Page.

    At least two books, "The Golden Fountain: The Complete Guide to Urine Therapy," by Coen van der Kroon, and "Your Own Perfect Medicine," by Martha Christy, provide buckets of knowledge.

    Imbibers say the "medical establishment" has been keeping these wonderful treatments a secret because they're so inexpensive and accessible.

    The believers say "old urine," aged much like a fine wine, mixed with sulfur powder works wonders for a balding pate.

    But what would people close enough to catch a whiff of such aroma say to a person wearing this miracle poultice in public? "Hey, pal, I don't know how to put this delicately, but you smell worse than the men's room in a wino bar and a basket of rotten eggs."

    Users say urine is sterile, antiseptic and non-toxic. They point out that it's 95 percent water, 2.5 percent urea

  63. Re: Moderation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No, it was offtopic.

  64. Re:Sexist. by Scavenczar · · Score: 1

    Ah yes what seems to be sexism gets people enraged, but implicit homophobia on slashdot does not. Wonderful. MK

  65. Re: Moderation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He was replying to the parent, which the moderator most likely missed because they failed to view at -1 like they should. If the parent is off-topic, it should be moderated so, but there's no reason to mod someone down for defending themselves from a flame.