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Opera Releases Version 7 For Linux
Wee writes "I happened to notice this morning that Opera 7 for Linux has been released. New features include fastforward and rewind, the ability to take notes in conjuction with web pages, a cookie manager, a password manager, and a very serviceable integrated email client called M2 (which was previously only available for the Windows version). Version 7 of Opera also represents a complete code rewrite, from the rendering engine up, and the improvements are fairly significant. Mirrors for debs, rpms and tarballs are on Opera's download page."
Obviously, that's not what I want.
Is the RELEASE better in this respect?
Rainer
Windows 2000 - from the guys who brought us edlin
From what I've read, people have had 50/50 success with getting flash working correctly. Sort of the same thing that's been haunting Firebird/Phoenix.
So my question is, have you gotten Flash to run correctly under the new Opera, and more importantly, why are there so many problems with these fringe browsers and Flash?
Loomis
"The television is the retina of the mind's eye" - Videodrome
...when you don't care about being correct. I grabbed a copy of 7.11 to see what's what. It's still blazingly fast, but can't render DOM/JS heavy content that both Mozilla and MSIE can.
I've been using, and paying for it, on Windows since version 4.x. I've been using it on Linux since the day the first technology preview came out. I think I've had a good amount of time to see it evolve, along with all the other browsers. For me, Opera has always been on the cutting edge.
Opera had tabbed windows five years ago. Opera (I think) invented mouse gestures. Opera was the first with a cookie manager and had settings for privacy issues before it was an issue.
Opera has had a popup blocker for longer than anyone.
If all these features sound familiar, because Mozilla/whatever has them, it's because those 'other' browsers are just now catching up.
There is a new feature in this version of Opera called 'FastForward/Rewind' that, astonishingly, works really well. I would expect Mozilla to pick this up in about a year.
If you don't like the look and feel out of the box, you can change just about anything regarding Opera. I like having my location bar on the bottom, so that's where I put it. I have my tabs down there, too. I can put my button bar at the bottom, but I prefer it on top. I don't like skins, so I turn them off. It's a browser how I want it.
Back in the day, Opera sold itself on size alone. When Internet Explorer and Netscape clocked in at 10 megs plus, Opera for Windows fit on a floppy (sans Java, of course.) It's not currently small enough to do that, but it is still much smaller than any other browser, and takes less resources. It is not a memory or drive space hog. It is small, fast and sleek.
For this alone, it's worth paying for. Mozilla/Netscape are still whores to M$ as far as I'm concerned, and even Phoenix/whatever is getting too big and klunky.
Innovation in the browser market costs money, and I'm more than happy to put a few bucks into Opera. The tradeoff on price is that I don't have to have my browser core dump a few times every day, and I don't have to beta test software for them. This software is consumer grade, not nerd grade, if you catch my drift. I love it, and you should love it to.
Maybe it's because I've been running it so long, but I've never had any real problem running plugins, especially Flash. When you rpm your opera, it tells you the Motif version you are missing. A slashdot user of average intelligence can search opera.com for download links to motif. Or follow the link posted previously. Plugger and all it's various codecs work flawlessly, as well as the Acrobat Reader plugin and RealPlayer. Perhaps the only thing I have trouble with is Microsoft specific languages (.asp) but if you're frequenting places that are dumb enough to expect everyone to have a M$ OS, maybe http://www.ilovewindows.com is a better web site for you to frequent.
-mattyj
Notes can't be, but that's not a huge loss in my humble opinion. There are possible better alternatives (notepad, vim, ...)
Mozilla's type ahead sounds far better than fast forward.
Everything else is supported in Mozilla...
Linux is Free Software. Describing a proprietary program as being "For Linux" is fraud.
I will not be upgrading to 7.0 any time soon.
Not just because i'd have to upgrade my registration key to get rid of the ads, but because the entire ui just feels dumb. They threw the baby out with the bathwater.
I don't like the new UI. If they release a skin that makes it look and behave like opera 6 (or, better yet, 5), maybe I might consider it then, but they also dumbed down the configuration interface.
Great to hear that it's a complete rewrite. I guess now they'll never fix the ECMA bugs in 6.12.
This is just like television, only you can see much further.
Ah, so it doesn't save the last-viewed page/tabs so that you can start over where you left off last time. Sort of like a "hibernation" mode for your browser.
Withdrawal before climax is very ineffective and those who try this are usually called "parents."
It looks good in RH 8, on a P I , 266 MHz, 32MB RAM. But do use 100dpi (i.e., startx -- -dpi 100 )
The 'market share' here doesn't account for all of those folks who set their Opera to appear as IE to avoid problems with certain web sites. Like I do.
Max
My god carries a hammer. Your god died nailed to a tree. Any questions?
I downloaded that the first day it was available, and after I installed it, I discovered something interesting: it didn't require registration. Apparently, custom versions like that are preregistered.
Looks like the support has improved but there are still some areas that need work.
Opera also support yet another innovative feature. If the feature is enabled, it analyzes web pages to present a navigation bar where possible. For example, when I browse this Slashdot topic, I have a small navigation bar with these links:
Home (goes to news page)
Search (goes to search page)
Previous (goes to previous topic)
Next (goes to next topic)
Author (goest to all Slashdot stories written by Timothy; i.e. the author of this topic)
Pretty cool, and the user can furhter customize the bar if necessary to have more buttons.
Beware: In C++, your friends can see your privates!
Opera's an interesting browser, but under Linux it's slower to run and takes longer to start up than Firebird. In addition, I'm not entirely sure how to get anti-aliased fonts working on it, which is somewhat of a must. So for me, it doesn't meet Mozilla's standards. Does it start up any faster on Windows?
Opera 6/Linux had always been substandard, IMO. The interface was clunky and unneccessarily big, the font management was bad, and it was very unsynchronised with the Windows version.
But Opera 7.11 final (not betas) is indescribably excellent. It is now almost a mirror of the Windows version, skinning support is excellent, fonts are beautiful out of the box, and everything is now suddenly very, very, very polished.
"Warning! The slice of pizza I had for lunch wasn't free either."
... I'm sure you'll find the recepie if you search for it... try google.
Weird... a non-free pizza?!
I'm tired of all the "doh! yes you have to pay for some things in life"-replies to any "it's not free software"-posting.. There is nothing preventing you from paying for free software (free as in speach, remember?).... though paying to give away my freedom is not an option for me.
(Yes, Opera is a good browser... but there are equally good free software... I'll stick with the one who gives me the freedom.)
~andreas
I'm using opera for windows and it's adware. If they ever require payment, bye-bye opera, it was nice seeing you.
It's not like this is tha ultimate mega program it's worth paying for. Heck, if I give $10 for opera, then I should also donate $100 to gcc and $100 to KDE and $50 to GNOME, etc.
Seriously, what are you talking about?
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