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Return Of The King Footage From E3
Arathorn writes "TheOneRing.net has a Quicktime movie up of just over a minute's worth of live footage from Return of The King , as shown at E3. The quality's pretty abysmal, but it gives a much-needed taster of what RoTK's going to look like. The soundtrack (such as it is) is from the final act of The Two Towers." Update: 05/21 18:47 GMT by T : Reader Adam Roben has set up a BitTorrent session as well.
For the novelization!!! I hope it's as good as the movie.
I could have sworn they already filmed the movie.
But seriously, one minute of footage in poor quality out of 180 isn't too much to get excited about. Just wait for the movie, folks. It's not that much longer. We had to wait 18 years for the fourth star wars movie.
Okay. Why is 'T' capitalized, but not 'o'? Don't capitalization rules stipulate that both short prepositions and articles begin with lowercase letters in titles? Normally I wouldn't gripe about this, but we're trying to make a new acronym here. Let't not screw it up!
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The video is of the Return of the King video game, as shown at E3... not the movie.
At least, that's what the article seems to imply.
Subject says it all...
Why is the clip horrible in quality? Because it's a video tape of the screen at E3.
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All three LOTR films were filmed at the same time so they have a consistent look and feel about them.
Fading in and out of poor quality images of faces we know from the previous movies. Zooming through New Zeealand landscape. Some bows aiming upwards. Riding through the forest on Shadowfax.
And it ends with some crappy looking fighting by Gandalf that HAS to be from the video game, or I would kill myself watching that on a big screen.
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like a cookie, but not so good like it's your favourite cookie. Any new material from the next film is always a treat but I don't see anything that I didn't expect. What kind of spoilers were in there anyway? In summary: good stuff, no surprises.
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It mentioned this being a "spoiler" on the website,but who the fuck hasn't read the book?
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I've read the novel and watched both movies, and while I agree with you that the novel offers more than the movies from a general perspective, both offer great entertainment. Your attitude towards the movies seems unneccessarily hostile.
Not neccessarily. If you recall the original story, the closer to Mordor the ring got, the more its power increased. Surely from that point of view, taking it to Mordor, which is basically what they did, would be worse? (And as we all know, that is the basis of the quest - they are going to take the ring to Mordor). My point is, just because the movie had a detour to Osgiliath, I fail to see what you're getting your knickers in a knot about. Yes, it does change the original story's details, but it isn't as terrible as you're making it out to be.
You walked out? Because a detail of the story was changed in leui of the movie adaptation? Ok, I'm not going to comment on that. Let's examine the rest of what you said, anyway.
If you read the original story closely, Faramir was NOT entirely pleasant while holding the Hobbits hostage. He was thinking about taking the ring to Gondor and interrogated the Hobbits pretty efficiently. Now, I agree that he was less hot-headed and far wiser than his brother, and during the section of the story where he and his men hold the hobbits hostage, he did have a change of heart and allow them to proceed with their quest unhindered. However, to say that they "weren't molested" is cutting it thin. They were blindfolded, tied up, and held against their will for a long time, interrogated, and not all that Faramir had to say to them was pleasant (in the beginning, it's hard to miss the threatening undertones of what he was saying, unless you are very unperceptive). Yes - the movie changed the details of this part of the story. Did it remain true to the spirit of the story, though? I believe so. Re-read this part of the story if you don't believe me. Crucially important departure from the story? Not really. The outcome is going to be exactly the same. I didn't like some parts of this departure either, but you're really making a mountain out of a molehill.
Sorry to tell you this, but Elves are "magical" in nature, and therefore can cast spells, and create magical items, to greater or lesser degree depending on the individuals themselves. Arwen is the daughter of Elrond, who has not only great Elf, but also Ainur heritage. To believe that she would be an Elf with little power is, well, shockingly ignorant on your part, to be brutally honest. If you don't understand this, read the Silmarillion, which deals with the nature of
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Ummm... Somebody tell this poor dude that we are talking about a movie..
Also while you are at it, tell him that Saddam is not tying up with Sauron to kill the infidels and anyone who plagiarize the book including Peter Jackson
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Of course, this is just a poorly captured teaser taken from the game booth, but still. There is nothing new in it. Everything that this teaser shows, was already in either TTT or FotR. Except for some weird fireballs.Gimli fighting? Tired of it. Legolas shooting arrows? Oh, spare me. Gandalf kicking ass with his stick? Seen in the end of TTT. Theoden unsure about something? The whole TTT was about that. Some plains shot from helicopter? Enough of that. So, while poorly captured TTT teaser was cool and full of new and exciting things, this one is not.
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One of the more important rules for storytelling in a visual medium such as film is that it is (almost) always better and more effective to show than it is to tell.
As LotR has quite a fair bit of characters sitting around telling each other things, this is a bit of a problem.
So, lets examine possible reasons for having the ring be taken part way to Gondor in the film, shall we?
One of the most important plot points in RotK, if not the most important, is Aragorn's leading what remains of the hosts of Gondor against the black gate, in an attempt to fool Sauron into thinking he is in possession of the ring, thus taking his attention away from the ring's real possition. There is all sorts of supporting evidence for Sauron to leap to this conclusion, but its a pretty complex and subtle point to get across. In a movie even more so.
By having the ring seen by an agent of Sauron, escorted by the troops of Gondor, selling to the audience that Sauron is convinced beyond all doubt that Aragorn has the ring is going to be far easier - One shortish speach from Gandalf about how He could never concieve of anyone willingly giving up the power of the ring, and Bam. Instant set up.
Compared to the (admitably more subtle and interesting) evidence presented in the book - Pippin and Aragorn's palantir experience, the film's evidence is far more easily grasped.
The films aren't messing with the mythology in any dire mannor - quite the opposite. They have gone to the trouble of setting up major plot elements, in the nature demanded of the different medium, well in advance, when they were needed.
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I didn't see any glimpse of the new character in there so it must not be the trailer I've seen.
Also while you are at it, tell him that Saddam is not tying up with Sauron to kill the infidels
Hm. Saddam. Sauron. Saddam. Sauron.
"The Evil One's power is again rising", Secretary of State Colin Powell told a stunned press conference Monday. "Saddam was defeated, but he is not dead." As the Secretary mentioned the name "Saddam", an ice cold wind seemed to enter the room, and an unexpected, brief solar eclipse occurred.
"Could someone close the windows please? Anyway, to finally defeat him, the Fellowship must go to Mount Doom just outside of Tikrit and throw the One Ring into the hellish fire that burns eternal there, vanquishing Saddam forever."
"The Fellowship being the Ringbearer-President George Bush, his trusty aide Dick Cheney, the mighty warrior Donald Rumsfeld who will give his life to defend the Ringbearer, and myself, who shall never be King. Probably never."
"And, oh, Paul Wolfowitz listened in at our briefing so he gets to tag along to."
"It will be a long, hard, perillous journey, on foot, but it is the only way."
A strange, crouching shadow bearing an uncanny resemblance to Attorney General John Ashcroft was seen crawling in the shadows behind the Secretary, muttering "My Precious"...
Thankfully hardly anyone over a certain age pays much attention to the D&D crowd. Been there, done that, still enjoy it but also have a life now, thanks.
I agree with you that Faramir was done a large disservice in the movie. The detour to Gondor and encounter with the Ringwraith was pointless and it compromised Tolkien's original idea that Sauron had no idea where the Ring was located.
But to let those few mistakes ruin your enjoyment of an otherwise decent film? To become offended about every departure from Tolkein's sacred text?
Get over it. It is just a film. There will be other adaptations of it, possibly within your lifetime. Extreme intellectual snobbery will bring you nothing but loneliness and make you insufferable in the eyes of the rest of the population.
I've started a BitTorrent session for this file. You can get it at http://aroben.dyndns.org/rotk-e3-stream.mov.torren t
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A semi-quality video of 1 minute 43 seconds of the EA ROTK game has appeared online thanks to the folks at 576.hu. As all of the links we checked out had serious download issues, we've mirrored it for easy downloading! !!!BIG SPOILERS!!!
Wow! I'd better not watch the clip if there are !!!BIG SPOILERS!!! (Where's that tag when you need it?)
Maybe I won't find out about Shelob and the ring getting into the Crack of Doom (heh...I just wrote "crack") as a result of Gollum biting off Frodo's finger and the part about Frodo not willingly throwing the ring into the hot MAG-MA! (Dr. Evil impression there).
OTOH, the spoilers could involve the numerous plots inserted into the movies that did not exist in the book, such as the horse-kissing part, Aragorn going over the cliff, Arwen, the elves at the Hornburg, etc., etc.
The Comic Book Guy needs to have a talk with Peter Jackson.
GF.
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(I walked out of the last movie when this bit went wrong.) [re: Frodo & ring in Gondor]
Dude, you shouldn't have left. That part of the movie was later revealed to be a dream.
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