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Sony Announces a Super Playstation 2, the "PSX"

Doctor_No writes "Sony has announced a souped-up Playstation 2 in Japan. The machine, named the "PSX", comes with 120GB hard drive and a DVD+/-RW for recording videos and DVR features much like Sony's Cocoon. The machine will be released sometime in 2003, and come with a service that offers multimedia content such as video and music through internet connectivity. If you live in Japan, it will also come with a BS tuner; which is a Japanese Satellite Broadcast tuner. The new machine also boasts a real-time OS, USB 2.0, Memorystick slot, and a connection with Sony's Portable handheld, the "PSP". UBS Warburg has an article here, but these two Japanese sites offer better information (albeit in Japanese); Watch Impress, ZDnet Japan. Here is a rather large PDF presentation."

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  1. Sony beat MS by randomErr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sony has beat MS to the punch again. We know that Xbox 2 was meant a home media center. Now Sony has one that does more then Xbox 2 was planned to have(mainly the DVD burner). Plus its practacly a home computer.

    I can't wait unti the PSX has an office suite and CUPS print drivers.

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    1. Re:Sony beat MS by tshak · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sony has beat MS to the punch again.

      Okay, so if this story had been "MS comes out with XBox Home+ with a 120GB HD, DVDRW, etc.", all the +5 posts would have been to the tune of "See, it's just MS trying to take over the living room", and "XBox is just a closed, proprietary computer". Instead, since it's Sony it's "cool, look at these new features - MS is way behind".

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    2. Re:Sony beat MS by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Let's face it, Microsoft has done more to us than Sony has. If Sony had done more to hurt us than Microsoft, then it would be the other way around. As it is, Microsoft is at least partially responsible for the demise of Sega (Since they collaborated on the Dreamcast) and let's face it, they've been screwing people over ever since the very first product, basic on paper tape - if your paper tape was bad, they wouldn't give you a new one. What more need be said?

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    3. Re:Sony beat MS by Rakarra · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Okay, so if this story had been "MS comes out with XBox Home+ with a 120GB HD, DVDRW, etc.", all the +5 posts would have been to the tune of "See, it's just MS trying to take over the living room", and "XBox is just a closed, proprietary computer". Instead, since it's Sony it's "cool, look at these new features - MS is way behind".

      Someone else has mentioned how damaging MS has been. I'll simply mention a different argument: I don't want MS to "win," nor do I want Sony to win. I wouldn't want either one of them to fully come out dominant, either Sony in the computer world, or Microsoft in the console world. As long as these two heavyweights duke it out, they are forced to compete, and we all benefit from that.

    4. Re:Sony beat MS by DrCode · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Maybe it's because Sony has a long-standing reputation for making quality products that are sold in a highly-competitive market, while Microsoft's reputation is that of a monopolist selling shoddy products.

  2. what about the RAM? by gpinzone · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The only way an OS is going to work properly on this box is if it's got as heck of a lot more RAM.

    1. Re:what about the RAM? by quandrum · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah, it's not like computers ever worked with less than 32 megs of RAM before. Or that an operating system already works on the playstation.... oh wait

  3. Where will this lead? by roberto0 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Is the fusion of gaming and general electrnoics the wave of the future? What's the point of this device, exactly? I can already do all of this stuff with my PC. Indeed, if the intention of this product is to be a PC alternative, then what about a keyboard and mouse?

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  4. Re:Anyone notice this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Linux for the PS2 costs quite a bit of money. Yes, it would be an excellent home PC but there are cheaper alternatives.

  5. Re:Gamecube by Ese+L0C0 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    You can't really just say that one is better than the other....

    They do have different game titles....
    So one maybe faster than the other (hardware wise) but just saying one is better is also trying to say that the games for the GameCube are better than that of the Playstation 2......which doesn't make sense because you can't really compare two completely different games....

    They are both very awesome in there own respects......You have to give Sony some credit for being innovative...No other systems have DVD+RW yet....

    If I want a DVD-R i would bought one. So you would rather spend the same amount of money on something that has less actual applications...hmm...burn dvds...or burn dvds and be able to surf the web encode movies play games...and all kinds of other things that it is going to be able to do....

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  6. PSX, eh? by QueenNina · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is bizarre, because all of the listed Playstation One games at work (electronics retailer) are under the three-letter abbreviation PSX, so I always think of PSX as the first one. So this seems old, not new!! Does anyone else find it weird that Sony is super protective of all its copyrighted stuff, and yet keeps coming out with mp3 players, DVD burners, and more and more ways to share multimedia files?

  7. Interesting timing by Dark+Paladin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Here's what I'm curious about:

    Most of the buzz on the PS3 indicates that it will be arriving in 2005. So why come out with a "Super PS2" in 2004 that will do all sorts of cool things (though, I'm certainly hoping "transferring memory data from standard PS2 memory card to memory stick/hard drive is one of them - I hate buying those things)?

    I'm just weird enough that I'd want to wait the extra year and see if there's a PS3 and a "Super PS3" for 2005 - if you want to play games for $300, get a PS3, if you want to play games, record DVD's, have Tivo like abilities, etc, etc, etc, get the Super PS3.

  8. Re:RIAA/MPAA Nightmare by jandrese · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Strangely though, many of the companies on the RIAA and MPAA are Japanese companies.

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  9. Re:PS1 by Rik+Sweeney · · Score: 2, Insightful

    PSX? Isn't that the Playstation 1?

    No, that was its development name. For some strange reason people still call it the PSX.

    What is worse is that some people call the PS2 the PSX2.

  10. Re:to hell with RTFA - I WANT one!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    It's essentially just a computer in a white case. What's the big deal?

    Surprise: MS releases a computer-like console, everyone trashes it. Sony releases a computer-like console and they're the next god.

  11. Re:Halleluiah.... by ecc0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The only real innovation in Xbox has been done "illegally" by modders

    You mean... Running i386 Linux on i386 hardware? Hooray for innovation!

  12. Re:Fox News by pmz · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Fox news tells it like it is, you just don't want to hear it.

    Just like Real TV, Cops, America's Funniest Home Videos, and any other sensationalist base-brained testicle-pumping crap TV show out there.

    Face it, Fox News sucks.

  13. Amazing by goldcd · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's a Tivo, It's a Media Hub, It's a PSP sync station, it's a DVD burner, it's going to suck your Amex dry - the only problem being when you try to use it to play a game you realise it's just a PS2 which I can pick up for f'all currently. Surely once you've sunk all your cash into such a lovely beast and it's nestling beneath your TV set it's going to make you slightly reluctant to upgrade to a PS3 and lose all that lovely functionality.
    I never understood why people bought All-In-Wonder Cards if they were serious game players always wanting the latest technology and I've no idea why anybody would buy this.
    Games consoles are supposed to be disposable items - bought the day they came out for a reasonably large sum and forgotten in the back of your cupboard 4 years later. I don't want to have to invest in my consoles, take out finance on them etc.
    Actually a thought hit me as I was typing all this, I think what Sony have just done is take a Tivo Box with a DVD burner they already had knocking about in research and plugged in the "PS2 on a chip" thingie they were banging on about recently. I suppose if the PS2 function is a freebie then it's a good enough way of getting a few potential new PS2 game customers who would never normally dream of straying into their local game shop. Sony also have a spoiler attitude, killing DC with PS2 rumours, trying to knobble GBA SP with PSP and now XBox Media thingie with this.

  14. Re:Odd decision by pmz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The articles state that the PSX would probably come out in the US in 2004. Given that the next generation of consoles is slated to arrive in 2004-2005, it seems strange that they would spend extra money on a redesign of the PS2 instead of putting their resources into the PS3.

    Doesn't the Japan market tend to lead the U.S. market--but not always in predictable ways? Don't forget the Japan is a large country, where Sony can sell the PSX to them only. The U.S. doesn't have to get every toy. The article is really just speculation.

    The PSX could be a test in the Japanese market to see how a more capable game console would sell. Don't be suprised if the U.S. doesn't see anything until the PS3, complete with the "Cell" stuff, 320GB hard drive, DVD-RW, monitor output, etc. etc.

    Imagine a PS3 with a Linux distribution, OpenOffice.org, and Mozilla. Given that games are no longer an issue (it's a PlayStation, duh), Sony would have a compelling no-Microsoft utility PC in its product line-up. PlayStations could even become inexpensive "thin clients" along the lines of X Terminals or Sun Rays. As long as the Linux isn't tainted (god help us, GPL), the PS3 would literally be disposable at only a few hundred dollars. It would even have point-of-sale applications. Not necessarily a bad day at Sony's marketing department. Not bad at all.

  15. "And tell me, Mr. Anderson..." by henele · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "...What good is a phone call, if you're unable to speak?"

    What I find really interesting is whilst there is potential broadband access, and I'm sure a raft of available, DRM, Sony content, I haven't read any confermed talk of 'real' net access, or say, any unlicensed program development.

    Not only are Sony beating MS to the punch with home entertainment, they are beating them to a completely closed platform - what use are bit torrent links if you have no client?

  16. Record TV whilst playing games? by mccalli · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I have a Tivo and a couple of consoles. One of many things I like about the Tivo is that I can play my games and not care about what I may be missing on TV.

    Anyone heard anything about whether this can record and play games at the same time?

    Cheers,
    Ian

  17. Re:Smaller publishers by yerricde · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There are crap games on every system. Just because a publisher has a lot of money doesn't mean that its developers will create a fun game.

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  18. Moderators at Slashdot? by Tighe_L · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You will notice that my post got a score of -1, Flamebait -- I guess the moderators on slashdot didn't like what I said.

  19. I'm in the midwest by Nazmun · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I live in the midwest too, i'm not rich or an elitest but FOX news definately doesn't have a liberal slant. BUT it has a huge conservative slant (crazy conservative) compared to any liberal slant other news stations have. I am surrounded by moderate republicans (Dublin, OH) and few liberals. All of us are usually disgusted by Fox News.

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  20. Re:Fox News by TheWickedKingJeremy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Fox tells the story without a liberal slant.

    That is putting it mildly.

    Seriously though, it is sad that so many people do not understand that, above all other things, the media should strive to be unbiased. I actually saw a big picture advertisement on Foxnews.com for one of their anchorman's books that had the subcaption "winning the war of liberty of liberalism." Now, regardless of whether you are a liberal or not, this *should* make you sick to your stomach. Sadly, I know most people do not understand why this is a Bad Thing. The other news networks may indeed have a liberal slant, but I have NEVER seen an ad for a book saying "winning the war against conservatives" on CNN.com. FoxNews has sunk to new lows (Geraldo aside), and is in a league of its own.

    All the corporate American news sources are tainted, albeit less so than FoxNews, with this corruption. The CNN headline after the start of the war in Afghanistan "America Strikes Back" is a loaded headline. The headline is, in effect, telling you two things. First, that we were not at war before this most recent invasion, and second, that we are attacking in self-defense. Both points are debatable, but CNN felt it necessary to make up the viewers minds for them. Its subtle, but its extremely important that people begin to pick up on these things. Real news sources should stick to presenting facts, and facts alone.

    If you want to check out better news sources, look into Reuters and BBC News.

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