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A Good Summer Read?

binaryhead asks: "Well, the semester has just ended, and I have graduated from school! :-) I start my full-time job in a month and want to read a good book in the mean time. Having read Snowcrash, Neuromancer, and most of the hacker biographies, I am trying to find a scifi-geek-hacker book that people like. I might try the new Kevin Mitnick book, but I wanted to see what Slashdot preferred. Thanks."

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  1. Gibson.... by objekt404 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I just picked up 'Pattern Recognition' & it is definitely a decent read (so far)

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    "Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
    1. Re:Gibson.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Read the rest of Gibson, they're all good. I'm just about done with Virtual Light, and it's just as good the third time around. All Tomorrows Parties was good, and Burning Chrome is good if you want short stories. Read them all, you won't regret it.

    2. Re:Gibson.... by hdparm · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah but the one that definitelly matches scifi-geek-hacker spec and comes to mind first is a 'Batbook', Costales&Allman.

    3. Re:Gibson.... by fingerbear · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I liked Pattern Recognition, too, but I have a question -- did reading that book affect your shopping patterns?

      I read it a few months ago and STILL think of Cayce Pollard every time I'm in a clothing store. And every time I remove a label from the stuff I buy.

      I think she's my new idol.

    4. Re:Gibson.... by JebusIsLord · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Anyone else notice all the Velvet Underground references in Gibson's work?

      Neuromancer's "Miss Linda Lee" is in the song "Cool It Down"

      The book "All Tomorrow's Parties" appears to be named after a VU song as well.

      There are others as well, but I can't recall of the top of my head.

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      Jeremy
    5. Re:Gibson.... by trib · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yup. 'Bout 2/3 of the way through. Fairly different from his earlier stuff (which ALL rocks), but worth every cent.
      I also can't speak highly enough of John Courtenay Grimwood. This guy's stuff is broadly in the Cyberpunk genre, but again, very different. Look at Amazon UK which has more on offer than the US site.
      A third option are the Marid Audran/Budayeen trilogy (and others) by George Alec Effinger.

      Enjoy!

      Trib

    6. Re:Gibson.... by Conspir8or · · Score: 3, Informative

      VU/Lou Reed ("Take a Walk on the Wild Side") and Steely Dan ("Rikki Don't Lose That Number") influences unite in the name "Rikki Wildside," from his short story "Burning Chrome," a work of such brash, concise beauty that it still gives me chills up my spine 10+ years after my first read.

  2. Ender's Game by mr100percent · · Score: 5, Informative

    Ender's Game. Not sure about the sequels though. You may want the crossover(quasi-sequel) Ender's Shadow after that.

    1. Re:Ender's Game by BobLenon · · Score: 4, Informative

      I think the whole series is good. However, Enders Game is the best. I got it for xmas a few years back and read it in one weekend. I then purchased the others and read them all in about 1.5 months. I think the story is very interesting. It is also a realtivly easy book to read - as opposed to say LoTR. I think there are sample chapters on Orson Scott Card's website.

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    2. Re:Ender's Game by stubblehead · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Definitely Ender's Game. I would recommend the first sequel, Speaker for the Dead (added a lot of interesting new items), but not so much the last one, Xenocide (boring, too much irrelevant side story). But even if you don't read those sequels, I again recommend Ender's Shadow, then Shadow of the Hegemon, and finally, Shadow Puppets (this last one is kinda quick and not as good but worth the 'closure' of a trilogy... or is it?...)

      For some reason, Card is amazing in his firsts - EG and ES. But I feel he squeezes the story out too tightly in sequels, and then just stomps the crap out of the rinds for complete trilogies. However, like these previous posters, as highly as I would recommend the Hobbit in fantasy, Ender's Game is a book that will stick with you for ages. I read it at around 15 years old by recommendation of a teacher (who wasn't a fan of SciFi until EG) and I devoured it in a few days. Great plot, terrific characters (that warrant extensions), and fluid writing. I don't know how Card fares in fantasy but he's more than worthy of his Nebula and Hugo awards.

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    3. Re:Ender's Game by D-Fly · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Not to offend anyone, but I've never really gotten the whole obsession with Ender's game. (I've only read the first book in the series). It seemed like a pretty good story to me, but it's not like you put it down after reading it and think "that story completely changed the way I see the world."

      If I were going to recommend a couple of really excellent books for hacker summer reading, I'd aim for some quality writers who are also going to make you sit down and think a bit afterwards.

      First, I'd go with Jack Womack. Strictly in terms of how he writes, I think he's one of the most interesting SF writers around. His books experiment very interestingly with language (although they are page-turner readable), with ideas about the post-national or post-government future of the world, with artificial intelligence, and even with mutant post human freaks.

      The first book I read by him was Ambient, about a corporate assasin in New York City in the not-so-distant future. The main character thinks and tells the story in an oddly compelling near-future english slang that will have you thinking in Ambient yourself by the end of the book. Another, Random Acts of Senseless Violence, is a kind of prequel to Ambient, in which a young Upper East Side rich girl watches her world collapse into post-national chaos. The language in the book changes from proper english (with a snotty schoolgirl attitude) to Womack's invented post-English gradually to reflect the character's own slide into violent street life as the city collapses around her.

      Another hacker classic I have not seen mentioned here (surprisingly) is Vernor Vinge's Across Realtime series(there are three, read them all), which many people credit with inventing cyberpunk (the first one precedes Gibson). A more recent Vinge book, and my favorite, is A Fire Upon the Deep. Vinge is not (I would say) as good a writer as Womack, but he is a hell of a lot better than most of the hacks I've seen mentioned in this discussion, and he's had by far some of the most interesting and influential ideas in SF writing.

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  3. Gullivers Travels by rw2 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Free on PG and it's about time we, as a collective, got a little more broad in our selections.

    1. Re:Gullivers Travels by privacyt · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Free on PG and it's about time we, as a collective, got a little more broad in our selections.

      I couldn't agree more. Gulliver's Travels raises many fascinating philosophical questions, in the form of a historical satire. (Jonathan Swift intended the book as a complex satire on 18th century morals and thought.) Ah, if only Swift were alive today, imagine what he would write on things like:
      - the university system in the US
      - the crazy US government and its Total Information Awareness, War on Drugs/Terror/Whatever, Iraqi Freedom(TM), etc. - all the outsourcing of tech jobs.
      - Kind-hearted Micro$oft and the RIAA. Amazon's nice, well-deserved patents.

      The possibilities for Gullver Travels Version 2003 are endless!

    2. Re:Gullivers Travels by joeykiller · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Your points are good, except I wasn't talking about Bowling for Columbine but his book "Stupid White Men".

      You don't answer an important question, though: Why didn't Swift choose the bulldozer tactics of Michael Moore in his days, if Moores bulldozer style is easier to write?

      Swift chose what you call the intrinsically more difficult genre of metaphorical fiction, just not because he wanted to do so, but because he had to: In Swifts England there were no first amendment or equivalent, and the idea of free speech weren't very evolved.

      Therefore, as a critic of a regime or a system, you had to choose more subtle ways of expressing them than the bulldozer tacticts of a Michael Moore. This wasn't a English problem per se, this was a problem troughout Europe.

      The bonus, of course, were the great books of Swift and others. But if the people of those days could choose, I think they'd appreciate it if the system allowed the more bullish styles of a Michael Moore.

      Still, "Gulliver's travels" is a joy to read!

  4. ok by eightball01 · · Score: 4, Funny

    A complete Unix manual.

  5. Read? by knightinshiningarmor · · Score: 3, Funny

    Didn't you read slashdot? You'd be better off playing video games then reading!

  6. books in pre-Change Internet form by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting
  7. Fantasy? by DreadSpoon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you like fantasy at all, I'd recommned Robert Jordan's "Wheel of Time" series, Terry Goodkind's "Sword of Truth" series (which is all but a blatant ripoff of Jordan's work, mind), or any of the Forgotten Realms mini-series (RA Salvatore is the best writer of FR books, imo).

    If you like humour (yes, the British version of it ;-), and can at least tolerate fantasy, you _must_ read Terry Pratchett's "Discworld" books. Absolutely must.

    I'd also recommend Asian folklore; those stories are surprisingly good, considering the plots seem like they were thought up by someone using the peace pipe... ;-)

    1. Re:Fantasy? by Vann_v2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I read Robert Jordan when I was in middle school and loved it. "I'm a big boy!" I thought. Then, years later, I realized that he couldn't really write well , or at least didn't write well, and only the first book was worth reading.

      Who wants to spend the time reading 7, or however many there are now, 1000+ page books whose plot is plainly drawn out as long as possible for seemingly no other reason that to extend the series? I don't, but I suppose this is a good way to kill time during the summer.

    2. Re:Fantasy? by critter_hunter · · Score: 3, Insightful

      As far as Forgotten Realms is concerned, I think RA Salvatore is the only really good writer. I haven't read all of FR, so maybe I was just unlucky, but everything else I read was crap

      Death Gate cycle, by Margaret Weis & Tracy Hickman, is damn good fantasy (especially the 4 first books). The Dragonlance trilogies are good, too, and so is Rose Of The Prophet apparently, although I haven't read that.

      Ì saw someone recommend Connelly - I must concur, although that's no summer read. If you buy all the Connellies this week, you'll have finished reading them before summer starts. They're page turners - heck, I read Blood Work in one sitting. I started reading before going to bed - didn't sleep all night :)

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    3. Re:Fantasy? by marbike · · Score: 3, Informative

      In addition to Terry Prachett, I would highly reecommend the Robert Asprin Myth series. They are very entertaining, but quite short. I read the entire series in a weekend.

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      it is better to light a flame thrower than curse the darkness. -Terry Pratchett Men at Arms
    4. Re:Fantasy? by WowTIP · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Jordan's first five or six books are good reading, but then the series start to stall. Not much happens. I have a like-dislike relationship with Goodkind's books. On one hand they are very captivating, on the other they are pretty naive.

      Now, my suggestions.

      Fantasy:
      George RR Martin - A song of fire and ice (series)
      Stephen Donaldson - The chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever (two series, one listed)
      Tad Wiliams - Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn (series)
      Stephen Erikson - A tale of the Malazan book of the fallen (series)

      Science fiction:
      Stephen Donaldson - The Gap series
      Peter F Hamilton - Night's Dawn Trilogy
      Greg Egan - Diaspora

      And all the classic; Douglas Adams, Isaac Asimov, Frank Herbert, etc.

      A word of warning. Both series by Stephen Donaldson contain main characters whose actions at times might seem offensive/disturbing to many.

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  8. How about... by ath0mic · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...something not "scifi-geek-hacker" for a change? It's a big world out there.

    1. Re:How about... by Cire · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Damn right. Read Down and out in Paris and London by George Orwell. One of the best books I've read in a long time.


      Cire

    2. Re:How about... by madfgurtbn · · Score: 3, Informative

      More non-hacker-specific suggestions:

      Water-Method Man, John Irving
      Sound and Fury, Falkner
      Of Human Bondage, Maugham (Perfect for someone just getting out of school)
      All Quiet on the Wester Front. (Not exactly a day-brightener, but should be required reading for all humans)

      A good proto-hacker story is A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court. Mark Twain was a bit of a technology buff/hacker himself, and a failed VC. IIRC, he blew his Huckleberry Finn/Tom Sawyer fortune on some kind of early typesetting machine or typewriter or something. I suppose I could look it up if I felt like it, but Google is way over on that other tab in Moz.

      But yeah, try something non-hacker once in a while. It's good and good for you.

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      Send lawyers, guns, and money. Dad, get me out of this.
    3. Re:How about... by ldspartan · · Score: 5, Informative

      Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, by Robert M. Pirsig. Buy it from Amazon.

      The book is neither about Zen Buddhism or motorcycle maintenance. Its tremendously good, and thought provoking, particularly for those analytical minds out there. I can't recommend it enough.

    4. Re:How about... by simong_oz · · Score: 3, Informative

      great suggestion. Here's some of my favourites, fiction & non-fiction. You'll probably spot some themes :)

      NON-FICTION:
      * Joe Simpson - Touching the Void ("Dark Shadows Falling" is good too, but "Touching the Void" is the one you won't be able to put down)
      * Jon Krakauer - Into Thin Air (you should probably also read Anatoli Boukreev's "The Climb" for his account of the Everest tragedy, though it's nowhere near as good a book as Krakauer's)
      * Nick Hornby - Fever Pitch (for all sports fans)
      * Steven Vogel - Cats' Paws and Catapults: Mechanical Worlds of Nature and People
      * Simon Winchester - The Map That Changed the World
      * David Attenborough - Life On Air (biography)

      FICTION:
      * George RR Martin - A Song of Ice and Fire series
      * Kim Stanley Robinson - Red Mars (the rest of the trilogy is also good, but nowhere near as good as the first book IMO)
      * Matthew Reilly - Ice Station (I challenge anyone to put this down once the action starts)
      * Erich Maria Remarque - All Quiet on the Western Front (should be required reading for everyone)
      * Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn - One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich
      * Stephen King - Christine
      * Robert Ludlum - The Bourne Identity (please don't judge this on the movie - the book is on another level)
      * John Fowles - The Collector
      * Douglas Adams - The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy series

      there's lots more, but hopefully there's some decent ideas for someone there.

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      "Because it's there." - George Mallory, when asked why he wanted to climb Mt Everest, March 18, 1923 (New York Times)
  9. Robert Anton Wilson by barkingcorndog · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Good stuff to read before starting your first job. Check out the Illuminatus! trilogy.

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    "I know together we'll make the possible totally impossible" - Homme
  10. Dune by DarkSkiesAhead · · Score: 5, Insightful


    I have to recommend the old sci-fi classic, Dune. It did a marvelous job of creating a strange yet self-consistent world. Gread read. The other books in the series are sometimes dry and uninteresting, but still worth it.

  11. Cuckoo's Egg by cvanaver · · Score: 5, Informative

    Cuckoo's Egg: Tracking a Spy Through the Maze of Computer Espionage by Cliff Stoll

    Good documentary account of tracing international hackers from a sysadmin-like guy's point of view. A little dated now but well-written, humorous and very entertaining.

  12. Read something that will FUCK with your head by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    and leave you feeling dirty.
    Like Naked Lunch

    1. Re:Read something that will FUCK with your head by FearUncertaintyDoubt · · Score: 4, Funny

      Naked Lunch

      "I can think of at least two things wrong with that title" - Nelson Muntz
  13. Hyperion by mckayc · · Score: 3, Informative

    The Hyperion series ("Hyperion" and "Fall of Hyperion" by Dan Simmons) is one of the best, if not the best, works of Sci-Fi I've ever read. Better than Dune, IMHO.

    It's something fresh and original and it'll change the way you think :)

  14. art of deception by cosyne · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm reading Mitnick's book right now- I can't say I reccomend it. So far it just seems like 'how not to give out your password For Dummies'. It has all these little "Lingo" and "Mitnick Message" sections to try and clue you in on key points, in case you didn't pick up from the stories that you shouldn't give out potentially sensitive info to people you don't know. Maybe it get's better later on, but up to like chapter 8 it's kinda boring.

  15. This isn't in your requested genre... by elizalovesmike · · Score: 4, Informative
    But given your state in life... it's a book well worth reading...
    • The Fountainhead
    by Ayn Rand, of course, then onto
    • Atlas Shrugged
    ...

    There are few better favors you can do yourself before entering the working world in earnest than to have a nice philosophical framework.

    Good luck!
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    Those who give up their power willingly deserve none.
  16. Kurt Vonnegut Jr. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Slaughterhouse Five

    Cat's Cradle

    Player Piano

    The Sirens of Titan

    I enjoyed them 30 yrs ago as much as in the past few weeks. Unemployed and all. Don't forget 1984, The Doors of Perception and Fahrenheit 451. Enjoy.

  17. Reading by cje · · Score: 5, Interesting
    A lot of times in the summer, I'm too busy with other things to spend a lot of time reading major novels, but in the time that I do get to read, I like to tear into collections of short stories, things that you can get through in an abbreviated sitting. Some of the stuff I read last summer:
    • The complete works of H.P. Lovecraft (Ia! Ia! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
    • The Complete Sherlock Holmes: Stories and Novels by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
    • Edgar Allan Poe: The Complete Tales and Poems (the tales, mostly; I'm not big on poetry)
    Not exactly sci-fi geek hacker stuff, of course, but I've read through most of Stephenson and Gibson's stuff and found that I like classic mystery/suspense as well. If it's hard sci-fi you're looking for, check out a book called The Stars My Destination by Alfred Bester, if you haven't already. It's old (circa 1950s or 1960s IIRC) but a great read. And then there's the classics like Clarke's Rendezvous with Rama or 2001 series.
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  18. Just one? by signe · · Score: 5, Informative


    One book in a month of nothing to do? Maybe one book a week, if you're slow!

    Anyways, Cryptonomicon was a good read, if a little lengthy. In fact, anything by Stephenson that you haven't read (Zodiac and Diamond Age were great). Just ignore the complaints about endings and enjoy the rest of the story.

    Asimov's Foundation series is a great choice as well. Not so much with the hacker angle (well, hacking of a different kind, surely) but very interesting.

    If you want to go military geek sci-fi, David Weber's Honor Harrington series is excellent. You can get the first book, On Basilisk Station from the Baen Free Library. And if you buy the most recent book, War of Honor, in hardcover, you get a CD that has all the books in the series on it. Or you can just download the CD somewhere online.

    Just a few suggestions. I have a ton of other things on my reading list, but that's a start.

    -Todd

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    "The details of my life are quite inconsequential..."
    1. Re:Just one? by Midnight+Warrior · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Cryptonomicron is historical fiction focusing around the age of Alan Turing (WorldWarII) and really centers around encryption. This is a read-several-times-and-still-see-something-neat book. Also, shortly after this book came out, SeaLand, the country, started making news again. No accident I think as this book kind of gave a "business plan" to the island.

      Diamond Age is another read-several-times book that focuses around where nano-tech can go. It remembers that not all technologies are controlled. Stephenson also amplifies where electronic paper/organic LEDs can go - finally we have an author telling us something beneficial from technology instead of always calling new technology evil.

  19. Book suggestion by war3rd · · Score: 4, Informative

    Hyperion by Dan Simmons. Or the whole series if you have the time. This guy pulls out everything from Canturbury Tales to cyberfreakiness in this work. Definitely a well-rounded read and incredibly absorbing. If you enjoyed any of the books you mentioned then you should like the Hyperion Cantos.

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  20. Some must-read modern classics for geeks by privacyt · · Score: 3, Insightful
    The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy series by Douglas Adams -- a hilarious take on Sci-Fi, the Hitchhiker's Guide has been read by many of the most influential hackers. (I'm using that term in its good sense.)

    Then there's that little sci fi novel by George Orwell called 1984 -- which is important for geeks who want to be informed citizens

  21. Good Omens by Niel Gaiman & Terry Pratchett by Hollinger · · Score: 4, Funny

    Absolutely stellar story. Check Amazon.
    Pratchett (of Discworld fame) and Gaiman (of Sandman fame) may seem an unlikely combination, but the topic (Armageddon) of this fast-paced novel is old hat to both. Pratchett's wackiness collaborates with Gaiman's morbid humor; the result is a humanist delight to be savored and reread again and again. You see, there was a bit of a mixup when the Antichrist was born, due in part to the machinations of Crowley, who did not so much fall as saunter downwards, and in part to the mysterious ways as manifested in the form of a part-time rare book dealer, an angel named Aziraphale. Like top agents everywhere, they've long had more in common with each other than the sides they represent, or the conflict they are nominally engaged in. The only person who knows how it will all end is Agnes Nutter, a witch whose prophecies all come true, if one can only manage to decipher them. The minor characters along the way (Famine makes an appearance as diet crazes, no-calorie food and anorexia epidemics) are as much fun as the story as a whole, which adds up to one of those rare books which is enormous fun to read the first time, and the second time, and the third time... --This text refers to the Paperback edition.

    1. Re:Good Omens by Niel Gaiman & Terry Pratchett by Medieval_Thinker · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I heartily agree with this recommendation.

      My mother bought me this book because she thought I would find the "motorcyclists of the apocalypse" amusing. It was a great read, and I have often laughed about some of the images.

      Do yourself a favor and get this book. Then start listening to NPR. Buy the books they review. You get a wide variety of good reads this way. I got _Ice_Masters_ via NPR last summer, and I never would have bought it otherwise.

      If you haven't read _Confederacy_of_Dunces_ do it soon. _Catch_22_ is another classic I have read more than once. _Jupiter's_Travels_ is a winner and the author is currently going around the world again.

      I'll spare you a longer list.

  22. Depends. Enjoy sanity? by pla · · Score: 3, Funny

    Anything not tech-related (sci-fi excluded, of course).

    Seriously, books with pictures of obscure animals on the cover, done in a faux-woodprint style, count as what we call "reference books".

    When you have a specific question about how to use a particular construct in Malbolge, you pick up the book with the woodcut of the naked molerat(tm) and turn to the chapter on painless suicide methods.

    You don't just READ such a book from cover-to-cover, a feat only slightly less painful than Vogon poetry.

    Which brings me to my real suggestion - Reread the entire works of Douglas Adams. Most folks know the HHgttG series, but not the joys of "Dirk Gently's Holsitic detective agency" or "The Long Dark Teatime of the Soul". Great books in their own rights.

  23. Vinge of course by fuzzeli · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think that Vernor Vinge is an essential geek read, most especially the loosely-related and absolutely fantastic pair, "A Fire Upon the Deep" and "A Deepness in the Sky". And the Motie Books, "The Mote in God's Eye" and "The Gripping Hand" by Niven and Pournelle, are a great first contact story. Also, anything by Robert Forward (especially Dragon's Egg and Starquake) is guaranteed to by intellectually fascinating and horribly written.

  24. Chabon is good by Ars-Gonzo · · Score: 3, Informative

    Summerland, by Michael Chabon, is definitely a geek book. It's hard to describe what it is without giving a lot of the fun away. It's a fast read, and very rewarding though. Chabon is the guy who wrote The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Klay, about two cousins who live during WW2 and create a Golden Age comic hero. If you've not read Kavalier and Klay, it's very good, but it's pretty dense. I'm a fast reader, and it took me a solid two weeks to mow through it.

    I also read Masters of Doom recently, which is about the early days of id software, Carmack, and Romero. It's a New Journalism book, where the author recreated dialog in conversations and things like that so it reads more like a novel than non-fiction. The writing's not the best, but it's entertaining, especially if you remember reading the trials and tribulations of Quake, Quake2, and Daikatana on the Shugashack and Bluesnews.

    Finally, if you've not read William Gibsons Count Zero, it's excellent. I've read Neuromancer, Pattern Recognition, Idoru and am finishing Virtual Light right now, but I think I like Count Zero better than the others. Virtual Light, Pattern Recognition, Idoru, and Count Zero all share similar themes (strong but secretly vulnerable heroines in trouble with big corporations) but Count Zero does it better than the others.

    I also just finished The Diamond Age, by Stevenson. I was pretty unimpressed with it. Its plotlines aren't as intricate as Cryptonomicons, and it seems kind of like Stevenson trying to be Gibson. I was pretty unimpressed. I'm going to pick up another Stevenson book after I finish with Virtual Light.

    I could dig up some Amazon links, but I'm too lazy.

    Hope this helps! ///Will

  25. Philip K. Dick by squarefish · · Score: 4, Informative

    The man responsible for the stories that spawed minority report and blade runner deserves some attention here. I highly recomment the valis trilogy: Valis, The Divine Invasion and The Transmigration of Timothy Archer

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  26. Oh my! by Vann_v2 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I've seen two people (and replied to one) recommend Robert Jordan's horrible "Wheel of Time" series. Unless you like tedium I suggest you stay away from all but perhaps the first two books.

    As for my list, Frank Herbert's Dune is always a good read and, though I know many people would disagree, the fourth book, God Emperor of Dune is my favorite of the series. It's the culmination of the subtle (in the first book) Nietzschean subtext involving becoming the greatest predator ever to live, and so forth. Sounds goofy, I suppose, but I liked it.

    Another, possibly less well-known though, again in my opinion, much better written series is Gene Wolfe's Book of the New Sun. Gene Wolfe loves to play mind games with his readers and more often than not you're presented with puzzles that at first you don't even realize are puzzles. The whole thing is very novel and, while short (four books with about 200 pages each -- compare that to Jordan's drivel which is 7, or maybe more now, at around 1000 each) it is intense and well worth the read. Aside from the intellectual motivation to read the series, it is also simply a great story. You won't see Gene Wolfe using science-fiction as a way to retell mostly old stories(*) in some sort of "futuristic" setting. Could I possibly gush some more? Maybe, but seriously, this is one of the finest pieces of real science-fiction to come out in a long time, perhaps ever.

    (*)Ok, I lie, he does retell old stories and seemingly use the old ploys most science fiction authors do, but always in a way to poke fun at that way of writing. For example, all of his characters' names sound like science-fiction character names (Severian, Ymar, Palaemon, etc.), but in reality they're all names of obscure Catholic saints. Also, his retelling of the story of Theseus and the Minotaur using 19th century ships (which ones, I won't say, since even this fact isn't all that obvious when reading it) is wonderful.

    Anyhow, in summary, etc., and so forth, I suggest you give Gene Wolfe a try. Really. Do it. HURRY!

  27. Note on Ayn Rand by cr0z01d · · Score: 5, Informative

    I feel kind of obliged to point out that you need to be ready to read those books. They're full of hatred for communism, and a dogmatic obsession with Ayn Rand's objectivism. Be careful lest you get to involved with those books, take a moment to step aside and try to view them from a different context than they present. Very powerful work, but on another level it is propaganda and you should always remember that.

    In addition, The Fountainhead has one of the ugliest scenes I have ever come across in any piece of literature. I'm referring to the scene involving Roarke and Dominique, which in my mind, seems more or less equivalent to rape, yet is not treated as such in the book.

    I'm just trying to give adequate warning for those who don't know what to expect from the books, they are very powerful and well written.

  28. Things that I like after 40 years of reading SciFi by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 5, Informative

    Dune if you haven't already - the best.
    City by Clifford Simak - classic.
    Shockwave Rider - the first real computer/scifi cyberpunkish book. The term 'worm' comes from this book.
    Naked Sun - Asimov - genesis of R. Daneel Olivaw, the character that Commander Data was based on.
    Nine Princes in Amber - after Lord of the Rings my favorite fantasy book.
    Left Hand of Darkness - IMHO the 2nd best scifi novel ever written after only Dune.
    Ringworld by Larry Niven - extrodinary world building and imagination in hard scifi genre.
    Gateway by Frederick Pohl - ditto.
    Startide Rising, David Brin - wonderful novel set in world where man is lifting other species to intelligence. Terrific writing, and the sequels are excellent too.

  29. More books to read by divide+overflow · · Score: 4, Informative
    Here's some books I really enjoyed reading one summer:
    • Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas by Hunter S. Thompson
    • Brave New World by Aldous Huxley
    • Propaganda by Jacques Ellul
    • Catch-22 by Joseph Heller
    And here is a book I'm working on now...I'm still about 1,100 pages from knowing if it will deliver the goods:
    • A New Kind of Science by Stephen Wolfram
  30. Sci-Fi Fantasy books on a 1-10 scale by RembrandtX · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I read alot.
    I rank the books I read on a 1-10 scale.
    Not everyone agrees with me :P

    http://www.remsbox.com/showBooks.php

    might give you some ideas if nothing else. :)

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    --Ne auderis delere orbem rigidum meum, non erravi pernicose!
  31. Hitchhicker's Guide to the Galaxy by Seek_1 · · Score: 5, Informative

    .. by Douglas Adams. It's a classic and I finally got around to reading it.. plus the other four parts! ;)

    And I have to say, it was the most fun I've had reading a book in a LOOONNNGGG time! It's a fairly quick read, but it's completely enjoyable. I highly recommend picking it up if you haven't already read it.

  32. whereis /usr/man/ROMEO? by coupland · · Score: 3, Funny

    I've got it! Are there any books about two young lovers who meet in a chat room, but they are destined never to be together because one is a Mac user and one is Linux user? They try to pursue their love in secret chat rooms using fake handles, but then the LUG/MUG finds out and forbids them to ever speak again! In desperation she pretends to have switched to Windows, and he in his despair formats his HDD and really does install Windows! She comes online, realizes her lover has been seized by the cold, inhuman clutches of Redmond and she formats and installs Windows too! No greater a love story has ever been told.

    Now that's literature, why didn't anyone ever come up with an idea like that!

  33. My own idiosyncratic essentials by senahj · · Score: 3, Informative

    _The_Dispossessed_, Ursula K. LeGuin
    _Stand_on_Zanzibar_, John Brunner
    _Lucifer's_Hammer_, Larry Niven
    _The_Left_Hand_of_Darkness_, Ursula K. LeGuin
    _Zen_and_the_Art_of_Motorcycle_Maintenance _, Robert Pirsig
    _Gateway_, Fred Pohl
    _The_Forever_War_, Joe Haldeman
    _Slow_River_, Nicola Griffith
    _The_Sheep_Look_Up_, John Brunner
    _Lord_of_Light_, Roger Zelazny
    _The_Doomsday_Book_, Connie Willis
    _The_War_of_the_Worlds_, H.G. Wells
    _Earth_Abides_, George R. Stewart
    _A_Canticle_for_Leibowitz_, Walter Miller
    _Been_Down_So_Long_It_Look_Like_Up_To_Me_, Richard Farina
    _The_Folk_of_the_Air_, Peter S. Beagle
    _Aegypt_, John Crowley
    _The_Day_of_the_Triffids_, John Wyndham
    _Rocannon's_World_, Ursula K. Leguin
    _Planet_of_Exile_, Ursulak K. Leguin
    _Ringworld_, Larry Niven
    _The_Long_Walk_, Slavomir Rawicz
    _We_Die_Alone_, David Howarth

    all that being said, two books tower above all other summer reading :

    _Treasure_Island_, Robert Louis Stevenson
    _Huckleberry_Finn_, Mark Twain

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    Wait a minute. Didn't I say that on the other side of the record? I'd better check ...
  34. Good Read by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    try neal stephenson's: cryptonomicon
    good read, great plot, and the tech stuff isnt too shabby either.

    bonus treat: perl source for the cryptographic alogrithm described [and used in the story] called solitaire [the algo, courtesy of bruce schneier of counterpane and "practical cryptography" book] presented at the back of the book...

  35. I hope this is fair use: by cje · · Score: 5, Insightful
    It's (Lord of the Rings) not that it's a hard read, it's that it moves way too slowly. IIRC, there's a good page about Treebeard when we first meet him. A simple, "he looks like an aging cypress tree with a face" would work pretty well.

    In the preface to the unabridged version of "The Stand", Stephen King (truly an American icon) writes:
    As it happens, I think that in really good stories, the whole is always greater than the sum of the parts. If that were not so, the following would be a perfectly acceptable version of "Handsel and Gretel":
    Hansel and Gretel were two children with a nice father and a nice mother. The nice mother died, and the father married a bitch. The bitch wanted the kids out of the way so she'd have more money to spend on herself. She bullied her spineless, soft-headed hubby into taking Handsel and Gretel into the woods and killing them. The kids' father relented at the last moment, allowing them to live so they could starve to death in the woods instead of dying quickly and mercifully at the blade of his knife. While they were wandering around, they found a house made out of candy. It was owned by a witch who was into cannibalism. She locked them up and told them when they were good and fat, she was going to eat them. But the kids got the best of her. Hansel shoved her into her own oven. They found the witch's treasure, and they must have found a map, too, because they eventually arrived home again. When they got there, Dad gave the bitch the boot and they lived happily ever after. The End.
    I don't know what you think, but for me, that version's a loser. The story is there, but it's not elegant. It's like a Cadillac with the chrome stripped off and the paint sanded down to dull metal. It goes somewhere, but it ain't, you know, boss.
    LOTR is certainly not short on words, but taking all of the pages that describe the world of Middle-Earth and boiling them down to single Cliffs Notes-style sentences would kill the narrative. There are portions where Tolkien goes overboard (i.e., some of the details of Middle-Earth's history and the lineages of his characters) but on the whole, I thought that LOTR was pretty well-paced.

    I mean, the trilogy isn't a Michael Crichton airport reader or a Thomas Harris psycho thriller. It's an epic journey through a world of splendor and grandeur. The guy invented his own languages for Middle-Earth, dude. :-) Rushing through Tolkien's world would not have done it justice.
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    We're going down, in a spiral to the ground
    1. Re:I hope this is fair use: by James+Lewis · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That is true, but I enjoyed The Hobbit much more than I did The Lord of The Rings. Part of it was my dislike for the never changing character of Frodo, but the other part was that it bordered on tedious. While I still enjoyed it, I believe there is a happy medium that you have to reach concerning detail. Part of the elequence of good writing is describing enough of the world so that a person can visualize it well, but not so much that it becomes restrictive and boring to read. The Hobbit most certainly achieved a high level of elequence in that respect, while The Lord of The Rings did not.

  36. Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy by KFK+-+Wildcat · · Score: 3, Informative

    When in doubt, re-read Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. You can't go wrong with that.

  37. Non Fiction? by Dolly_Llama · · Score: 4, Informative

    In my pleasure reading, I try to vary between fiction and non-fiction. Right now I'm reading The Seekers by Daniel Boorstin. I highly recommend it as well as The Discoverers by the same author. These books are narrative historical surveys of search for meaning in the former, and science and technology in the latter. A little non-fiction does the mind great. I can't tell you how many jeopardy answers I get because of this non-fiction reading or that.

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    Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. -- Carl Sagan

  38. Tom Clancy later stuff is shite... by Goonie · · Score: 4, Informative

    His first few books are decent thrillers, particularly Hunt For Red October and The Sum of All Fears (and perhaps Rainbow Six), but his later Jack Ryan books become ever-lengthier hymns to conservatism in general and Ronald Reagan in particular. If his editor had some spine he or she would send his drafts back with lots of red lines through the more egregious sermonizing.

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    Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo
    --Andy Finkel (J. Klass?)
  39. Ender's Law by sakusha · · Score: 5, Funny

    I have postulated a new law, entitled "Ender's Law"

    "Every time the subject of science fiction is raised on Slashdot, Ender's Game will be mentioned in the first 10 messages."

    I think Slashcode needs an Ender filter, just like it has a First Post filter.

  40. Re:Things that I like after 40 years of reading Sc by WillAdams · · Score: 4, Informative

    Interesting list. Quite agree about Frank Herbert's _Dune_ and Roger Zelazny's _Nine Princes of Amber_ (and the series which they spawned), but not so sure on the rest---_Gateway_ didn't do much for me (though it was a good read), and other books by Ursula K. LeGuin are better (esp. _The Lathe of Heaven_).

    I haven't been reading for quite forty years... but... some books / series to add (in no particular order) which I haven't seen added elsewhere in this list:

    - _Wild Cards_ - comic books w/ almost realistic physics

    - _The Stainless Steel Rat_ by Harry Harrison - classic science fiction, and available in Esperanto!

    - Barry Hughart's ``Master Li Novels'' - _Bridge of Birds_, _The Story of the Stone_ and _Eight Skilled Gentleman_ --- read these in private if you're embarrassed by laughing out loud. Fantasies of a China which never was but should have been.

    - Roger Zelazny's _Damnation Alley_ and its sequel _Hardwired_ by Walter Jon Williams (who says ``thanks'' to RZ for ``letting me play in his alley'' in the foreword).

    - Michael Moorcock's Eternal Champion cycle, esp. the Jeremiah Cornelius books. This is where the concept of ``multiverse'' reaches its full breadth and depth.

    - Stephen Brust's ``Taltos'' books, _Jhereg_, _Yendi_, &c. (Spoiler: Interesting application of Clarke's law). There's a prequel series written in the style of Alexandre Dumas which are a lot of fun (everyone did read Dumas as a child, right? If not, go and read _The Count of Monte Cristo_ and all the other books first)

    - John Varley's Gaea trilogy - _Titan_, _Wizard_ and _Demon_

    - _The Princess Bride_ S. Morgenstern's Classic Tale of True Love and High Adventure --- the good parts version by William Goldman. Get the older edition (Ballantine Books 1973 if possible 'cause the newer editions have a bunch of typos :(

    - L.E. Modesitt, Jr. _The Forever Hero_, _Dawn for a Distant Earth_, &c. - fun to read as a pastiche of other books which doesn't require that much thought

    - Steve Perry's Matador books are a lot of fun and an interesting view of human potential (though he cops out and punts on the immortality issue when he did the Stellar Ranger books :(

    - Jack Chalker, esp. his Well of Souls books

    - C. J. Cherryh, - her Merchanter novels are classics, _Rimrunner_ is particularly good (though one pretty much needs to read _Downbelow Station_ first for the background. Her Morgaine books are also fantasy classics.

    - Fred Saberhagen - his Dracula books are way cool (haven't read his novelization of the movie though---get _The Dracula Tape_ instead), as well as _The Frankenstein Papers_. and for the sci-fi tie in, ``Berserker''

    - Jack Vance's _Dying Earth_ is a classic, and his Lyonesse trilogy should be

    - Manly Wade Wellman wrote a lot of good stuff, but there're few things as wholly American and mystical, and moving as his stories about Silver John---the short story collection _John the Balladeer_ is a good beginning.

    - Robert Heinlein 'nuff said

    - Lord Dunsany - _The Charwoman's Shadow_ is haunting, and interesting to contrast with _The Return of the King_. I'm fortunate to have a Modern Library edition of _The Book of Wonder_ from ~1908 or so which is a frequent companion when camping.

    - R. A. MacAvoy's books are quite good, and here _Tea with the Black Dragon_ even works in a couple of people who work w/ computers---way cool, though a bit dated.

    Lastly, Terri Windling at Ace Books created ``The Fairy Tale Series'' which are re-tellings of classic fairy tales by contemporary authors, all of which are quite good, especially the haunting _Briar Rose_ by Jane Yolen which I think everyone should read.

    William
    (whose resume's objective line reads, ``To make beautiful books'' ;)

    --
    Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
  41. Richard Feynmann? by moosesocks · · Score: 4, Informative

    I now you said that you've read all the hacker-bios, but you may want to consider the biography of Richard Feynmann - "Surly you're joking, Mr. Feynmann". He somewhat predates most hackers (and computers for that matter!), and is most famous for being the person to demonstrate the flaw which caused the Challanger to explode. Definitely an intersting read on many levels.

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    -- If you try to fail and succeed, which have you done? - Uli's moose
  42. Anything by Kurt Vonnegut or Chuck Palaniuk by checkyoulater · · Score: 4, Interesting

    For the last 3 days I have been reading Breakfast of Champions. Until now, the only book I had read of his was Slaughterhouse Five. I had no idea his stuff was so great. Before that, I read Survivor by Palaniuk on a recommendation. I finished it in 2 days and then proceeded to buy and read the rest of his books within a week. Fantastic stuff, and for those not in the know he is the author of Fight Club.

    --
    Is that a real poncho? I mean, is that a Mexican poncho or is that a Sears poncho?
  43. For the love of God, don't start the Wheel of Time by hprotagonist0 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I started reading Jordan's series in middle school, and I loved it. In fact, I would still love it if either a), it had ended 2000 pages ago, or b), the most recent books were as good as the first few.

    The series is good up until the 5th or 6th book, at which point it stalls and dies a long, slow, painful death. I recently bought the 10th book out of the same vague sense of obligation that sent me to the theater for Star Wars: Episode II, and I wouldn't want anyone else to be sucked into that vortex.

    On the other hand, if you want a good fantasy series, take a look at George R. R. Martin's "Song of Ice and Fire" (starts with _A Game of Thrones_). Another multivolume, incomplete series, but he promises only 6 books, so maybe it'll work out. I also just recently read Neil Gaiman's _Neverwhere_, a dark-comedy urban fantasy (how's that for a sub-sub-genere?), which is excellent.

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    "A witty saying proves nothing." --Voltaire
  44. The Jargon File knows by Piquan · · Score: 3, Informative

    Have you tried looking at The Jargon File's bibliography?

  45. No, he is not dead by teslatug · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Not really SciFi per se, but how about some Stephen King for a change. I love the way he describes settings. It creates a very vivid picture in your mind and you can lose yourself in the story for quite a few hours. Some of his books that I would really recommend are the Dark Tower books:

    Soon to be re-released:
    The Dark Tower: The Gunslinger
    The Dark Tower: The Drawing of the Three
    The Dark Tower: The Waste Lands
    The Dark Tower: Wizard & Glass

    Not yet released:
    The Dark Tower: Wolves of the Calla (November 2003)
    The Dark Tower: Song of Susannah (Summer 2004)
    The Dark Tower: The Dark Tower (November 2004)

  46. That's easy... by Trillan · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The Terminal Experiment, by Robert J. Sawyer.

    It's about what happens to society when someone discovers proof of the human soul... and a whodunit involving virtual personas created as a method of simulating possible afterlifes.

    Heck, nearly any of his works would do.

  47. Shameless Self-promotion by CleverNickName · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You asked about a "scifi-geek-hacker book".

    You may like my book, Dancing Barefoot. There's a really long story all about Star Trek (scifi) and me (geek) and Vegas (hackers, I suppose, if you count Bringing Down the House, which is a GREAT summer -- or anytime, really -- read.)

    But I won't pimp the link for BDTH, because I'm only shamelessly promoting myself. ;-)

  48. How about something USEFUL? by Jetson · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "Rich Dad, Poor Dad" would be a good starting point for someone who's fresh out of school and wondering what sort of future their diploma will bring. It might also open your eyes to the plight of the hundreds of thousands of dot-bomb paupers out there who thought a 60-hours-per-week job with a signing bonus was the epitome of success....

  49. Re:Iain M. Banks SF Books by morn · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yes! Banks is an unsung hero here in the US, I think because his books are marketed amongst the throwaway SF paperbacks (complete with stereotypical SF/fantasy covers), so people never pick them up. Use of Weapons is out of print in the USA, but it can still be found in the UK, and shipping from amazon.co.uk is not very expensive (plus, for what it's worth, you'll get the cool looking stylised UK cover art). I highly recommend it.

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    ...or am I missing something?

  50. Bad starters for PKD. Try these. by gad_zuki! · · Score: 3, Informative

    I would not start with the Valis trilogy (the three books mentioned above which are essentially the same story) if introducing someone ot PKD. Start with the good fiction and then work your way down to his more personal, experimental, and tougher to read books.

    Try:

    A Scanner Darkly: Still relevant (if not more so in today's surveillance culture) criticism of the war on drugs, exploration of drug culture, and paranoia/conspiracy. Great character work. *if you can only read one PKD story do this one or Man in the High Castle.

    Bladerunner (that's the title they sell it under now, I know): Okay, you've seen the movie, but the book has very little to do with the movie except with setting, a little plot, and character names. Excellent PKD exploration on human vs non-human and moral ambiguity.

    Ubik: excellent work of sci-fi. Touches heavily upon PKD's "kipple" theme.

    The Man in the High Castle: one of the first, if not the first "elsewhere" story. Superb in many ways.

    Eye in the Sky: Ubik-like mindbender.

    Solar Lottery: No one ever recommends this because its so unlike PKD (first published novel I believe) but its a great short read and you can pick up on some future themes PKD explores later on.

  51. some of my favorites ... by monique · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The Worthing Saga by Orson Scott Card -- technically sci fi, it's really about the author's exploration of human nature: What makes us human? What makes a person great? People go on about Ender's Game, and it's pretty good, but I think the story of Jason Worthing goes much deeper.

    Trader by Charles de Lint -- A story about waking up in a stranger's body sounds a bit cheesy, but this one sucked me in with its exploration of identity and personality. The ending wasn't the predictable warm, fuzzy, everything's okay type, either.

    Cry to Heaven and Feast of All Saints by Anne Rice, both historical fiction with no vampires or magic whatsoever. She does a wonderful job of bringing these places and times to life.

    Cryptonomicon by Neal Stephenson -- just incredibly engaging. The book is huge, but it's a page-turner from start to finish. Actually, I haven't read anything by Neal Stephenson or Steven Bury (an alternate pen name) that I haven't adored.

    The Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn trilogy by Tad Williams (Dragonbone Chair, Stone of Farewell, and To Green Angel Tower). Epic, beautifully written coming of age story set within the context of a compelling war between good and evil. The characters really come alive.

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    -monique
  52. Required Slashdot reading list. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    1) Bill Gates: Portrait of Evil
    2) New Guide to learning Hindi
    3) Linus Torvalds: Savior of the Multiverse
    4) How Things Work In Soviet Russia
    5) Why employers are evil, and why I still insist of working for them
    6) The Theory of How to Date Women
    7) Physical Exercise: Tips On How To Avoid It
    8) How To Get Used To Bathing
    9) Hottest IT Jobs/Trends In India
    10) The Essential Goat.sx Reference
    11) Creating Beowulf Clusters From Anything

    1. Re:Required Slashdot reading list. by chad_r · · Score: 3, Funny

      12) ???
      13) Secrets to Maximizing your Profit

  53. American Gods by matsh · · Score: 3, Informative

    By Neil Gaiman. I have only read 60 pages so far, but it seems to be damned good.

  54. Cryptonomicon, Earth, A Deepness in the Sky, HHGTG by wadiwood · · Score: 3, Informative

    If you liked snowcrash and you like maths and computers you have to read Cryptonomicon (Neal Stephenson). It even has some dodgy perl script in it although corrections have been posted at Neal's web site.

    Otherwise there a whole CD or more worth of free sci fi, so you can get a taste of what authors you like here

    http://www.baen.com/library/

    I really like Lois McMaster Bujold - her "Vorkorsican" novels start with "Cordelia's Honor" which is really two novels published together ("Shards of Honor" and "Barrayar"). Epic like Starwars with much more attention to detail (are you ever annoyed when a novel fails to complete an idea, and leaves some character hanging, or contradicts its universe rules in every new release?).

    And I like David Weber - "On basilisk Station" and I just finished CS Friedman "The alien shore" which I liked. Most of these involve space travel. "The alien shore" involved spaceships and social structures and computer gadgets.

    David Weber was very military, as is Lois McMaster Bujold, and I don't like strict hierachies but I like these books. I like Elizabeth Moon's "Hunting Party", about Heris Serrano, again in a very hierachical society. I guess I like the breaking the rules bit that most of these use to create the drama.

    David Brin - "Earth" is an epic plot weaver, the ultimate internet, combined with some interesting physics, maths and enviromental outcomes. I needed 6 bookmarks to read that one.

    I hated Robert Jordan Wheel of time series because he never finishes, there are dangling ideas everywhere and it looks like every book just spawns more threads without completion. Very frustrating. I also disliked CJ Cherryh "The Chronicles of Morgaine" because it was a little bit Arthurian legend (I am sick to death of Arthur), but if you want to know where the "Stargates" come from, then it is interesting.

    "A deepness in the sky" by Vernor Vinge is another great epic. It is sort of a prequel to A fire upon the deep (1993), and covers 1000's of years of time, space travel, aliens and humans, traders and religious fundamentalist dictatorships. And interestingly explores the consequences of dependence on computer systems and human augmentation with biotech.

    I also like Julian May, Golden Torc series; Anne Macaffery, Mercedes Lackey (although they're a little girly-princess). Terry Goodkind is good but a little too much s&m for me. And for good detective crime fighting, I like Dick Francis, so far as I know he wrote only one computer related story "Twice Shy" and it is quite historical now ie it used cassette tapes to load the programs.

    For cultural completeness, if you haven't already read these, you must read Tolkein ("Hobbit", "Lord of the Rings" etc), and Douglas Adams "Hitchikers guide to the galaxy" series.

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    -- it must be true, it's on the internet.
  55. Cryptonomicon's characters by billstewart · · Score: 4, Interesting
    OK, so many of them matched the idiosyncracies of his geek friends, but some of them were *my* geek friends as well (though I haven't actually met Neal) so figuring out who was who and who was a composite and who was just a local archetype was part of the fun. For instance, all the "Enhancing Shareholder Value" bit is pure Menlo Park archetypal, and the litcrit girlfriend doing the "War as Text" conference and her snobbish leftie friends are also (or at least they're engineering-types' stereotyped perceptions of those people), though perhaps they were also influenced by specific individuals. On the other hand, the Secret Admirers were rather directly the Cypherpunks, and the little company in Los Altos was quite specific.

    Also, reading it now is an opportunity to be nostalgic about that Internet Boom Thing that was so many quarters ago....

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    Bill Stewart
    New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
  56. Connie Willis by Vegigami · · Score: 3, Informative

    "A Fire Upon the Deep" is one of my favorite books but there's a reason it shared the Hugo Award with Connie Willis' "Doomsday Book". You might want to check out her writings too.

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    I can tell you the meaning of life,
    but you have to promise not to laugh.
  57. Re:Dune (what about Miles Teg?) by bmac · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't agree with "dry and uninteresting", but Miles Teg getting his in book 5 (Heretics of Dune, I believe) is one of my all-time favorite sections in any book. As well, the book is as much about the fact that the development of the humans centers upon *awareness* is in itself worth the wordage, IMO.

    Peace & Blessings,
    bmac

  58. What?? by NamShubCMX · · Score: 5, Insightful
    What???

    No one suggested Hitchikers guide to the galaxy (a trilogy iun 5 parts) yet!!??

    --
    We've always been at war with Eurasia.
  59. About A New Kind of Science by rickwood · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I bought A New Kind of Science when it first came out, thinking that Wolfram is a genius and he must have come up with something really great to put out such a honkin' big book. I must admit that I never actually read it though. My reasons were two-fold.

    First, the parts of the book that I flipped through when I first opened the package and took it out were either A) So self-congratulatory of Wolfram's "discoveries" so as to be annoying or B) Details of simple experiments with Cellular Automata conducted in Mathematica. You might have seen Commodore BASIC source code for similar experiments in Compute! magazine in 1982. Okay, maybe not, but you get my point. Even with those points against it, Wolfram appeared to make some interesting conclusions, so I decided to attempt it.

    Which brings me to point the second: When I sat down and started to read the book, the lengthy copyright notice caught my eye. Lucky for me it did. Rather than go off on a rant, I'll let the copyright statement speak for itself:

    Copyright 2002 by Stephen Wolfram, LLC

    All rights reserved. Except as provided below, no part of this book, whether in physical, electronic or other form, may be copied, reproduced, distributed, transmitted, publicly performed or displayed without the prior written consent of the copyright holder. Nor may derivative works such as translations be produced. Visit www.wolframscience.com/nks/permissions for further information.

    The author, copyright holder and publisher wish to encourage further development of the science in this book, while maintaining its intellectual integrity and preserving the value of their substantial creative and financial investments through the maintenance of appropriate legal and other rights.

    Discoveries and ideas introduced in the this book, whether presented at length or not, and the legal rights and goodwill associated with them, represent valuable property of Stephen Wolfram, LLC, and when they or work based on them is described or presented, whether for scholarly purposes or otherwise, appropriate attribution should be given. For purposes of scholarly citation this book is a primary source and should be cited accordingly.

    Individual verbatim quotations of up to twenty lines of plain text may be made for scholarly purposes if this book is clearly identified and cited as the source. Visit www.wolframscience.com/nks/reprints for information on classroom reprints and copying arrangements.

    [Two sections concerning illustrations and Mathematica source code use restrictions, reading much the same as the rest of the copyright statement, which I skip for brevity's sake]

    Certain material in this book may be proprietary, and may for example be or become the subject of US or foreign patents, pending or issued. Inclusion in this book shall not be construed as implying any license of any sort. Visit www.wolframscience.com/nks/licensing for licensing information.

    [There's a little more but I've made my point]


    I read no further than the end of the copyright statement and haven't opened the book since except for the purpose of this post.

    Perhaps people might think it unreasonable, but I have to take issue with a book claiming to deliver A New Kind of Science in which all the science appears to be held under lock and key. Where the hell would we be if Newton, et al. patented calculus, or Knuth patented algorithmic analysis?

    So all I can offer is my completely uninformed opinion based solely on my layman's interpetation of the copyright statement: Stop before you infect your mind with Wolfram's IP.
  60. Godel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid by Duchamp · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Godel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid by Douglas Hofstadter will blow your mind.

  61. confederacy of dunces by andy666 · · Score: 3, Informative

    by john kennedy otoole.

    this is the funniest book i ever read. otoole wrote it, didn't publish it, then commited suicide. his mom found it and brought it to a publisher, and it won a pulitzer.