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A Good Summer Read?

binaryhead asks: "Well, the semester has just ended, and I have graduated from school! :-) I start my full-time job in a month and want to read a good book in the mean time. Having read Snowcrash, Neuromancer, and most of the hacker biographies, I am trying to find a scifi-geek-hacker book that people like. I might try the new Kevin Mitnick book, but I wanted to see what Slashdot preferred. Thanks."

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  1. Gibson.... by objekt404 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I just picked up 'Pattern Recognition' & it is definitely a decent read (so far)

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    1. Re:Gibson.... by farrellj · · Score: 2, Funny

      I am about 80% through this book and I am greatly enjoying it....film clip to be found on the internet...(inside joke!).

      ttyl
      Farrell

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    2. Re:Gibson.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Read the rest of Gibson, they're all good. I'm just about done with Virtual Light, and it's just as good the third time around. All Tomorrows Parties was good, and Burning Chrome is good if you want short stories. Read them all, you won't regret it.

    3. Re:Gibson.... by hdparm · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah but the one that definitelly matches scifi-geek-hacker spec and comes to mind first is a 'Batbook', Costales&Allman.

    4. Re:Gibson.... by fingerbear · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I liked Pattern Recognition, too, but I have a question -- did reading that book affect your shopping patterns?

      I read it a few months ago and STILL think of Cayce Pollard every time I'm in a clothing store. And every time I remove a label from the stuff I buy.

      I think she's my new idol.

    5. Re:Gibson.... by JebusIsLord · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Anyone else notice all the Velvet Underground references in Gibson's work?

      Neuromancer's "Miss Linda Lee" is in the song "Cool It Down"

      The book "All Tomorrow's Parties" appears to be named after a VU song as well.

      There are others as well, but I can't recall of the top of my head.

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    6. Re:Gibson.... by lebowitz · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Pattern Recognition
      by Sergios Theodoridis, Konstantinos Koutroumbas, Ricky Smith

      Was just shown to me by a friend... It's on the advanced undergraduate / graduate reading level and introduces the problem of pattern recognition in various domains. What I read was very well written.

      I have a background in fourier analysis and error correcting codes and both of these topics are re-introduced and applied by this book. Granted, a bit technical, but I think it could be appreciated by the professional engineer or someone (like me) recently out of college.

    7. Re:Gibson.... by trib · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yup. 'Bout 2/3 of the way through. Fairly different from his earlier stuff (which ALL rocks), but worth every cent.
      I also can't speak highly enough of John Courtenay Grimwood. This guy's stuff is broadly in the Cyberpunk genre, but again, very different. Look at Amazon UK which has more on offer than the US site.
      A third option are the Marid Audran/Budayeen trilogy (and others) by George Alec Effinger.

      Enjoy!

      Trib

    8. Re:Gibson.... by lightcycle · · Score: 2, Informative

      In Mona Lisa Overdrive (if I remember correctly) there's a ship called 'Sweet Jane' travelling up to orbit, a song on the VU 'Loaded' album has this title.
      Also, that music trivia guy in Chia's Sandbender in 'Idoru' sounds a lot like David Bowie, doesn't he?

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    9. Re:Gibson.... by Conspir8or · · Score: 3, Informative

      VU/Lou Reed ("Take a Walk on the Wild Side") and Steely Dan ("Rikki Don't Lose That Number") influences unite in the name "Rikki Wildside," from his short story "Burning Chrome," a work of such brash, concise beauty that it still gives me chills up my spine 10+ years after my first read.

  2. Ender's Game by mr100percent · · Score: 5, Informative

    Ender's Game. Not sure about the sequels though. You may want the crossover(quasi-sequel) Ender's Shadow after that.

    1. Re:Ender's Game by Vairon · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Agreed. Incredible Story. One of my all time favorites.

    2. Re:Ender's Game by BobLenon · · Score: 4, Informative

      I think the whole series is good. However, Enders Game is the best. I got it for xmas a few years back and read it in one weekend. I then purchased the others and read them all in about 1.5 months. I think the story is very interesting. It is also a realtivly easy book to read - as opposed to say LoTR. I think there are sample chapters on Orson Scott Card's website.

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    3. Re:Ender's Game by ceejayoz · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Difficult to read as in the "oh God when will it end?" reaction that some people have (ex. my roommate).

      Enjoy the Ender series :-)

    4. Re:Ender's Game by stubblehead · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Definitely Ender's Game. I would recommend the first sequel, Speaker for the Dead (added a lot of interesting new items), but not so much the last one, Xenocide (boring, too much irrelevant side story). But even if you don't read those sequels, I again recommend Ender's Shadow, then Shadow of the Hegemon, and finally, Shadow Puppets (this last one is kinda quick and not as good but worth the 'closure' of a trilogy... or is it?...)

      For some reason, Card is amazing in his firsts - EG and ES. But I feel he squeezes the story out too tightly in sequels, and then just stomps the crap out of the rinds for complete trilogies. However, like these previous posters, as highly as I would recommend the Hobbit in fantasy, Ender's Game is a book that will stick with you for ages. I read it at around 15 years old by recommendation of a teacher (who wasn't a fan of SciFi until EG) and I devoured it in a few days. Great plot, terrific characters (that warrant extensions), and fluid writing. I don't know how Card fares in fantasy but he's more than worthy of his Nebula and Hugo awards.

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    5. Re:Ender's Game by Brian_Ellenberger · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Ender's Game is awesome. What is cool about it is that it appeals to so many different aspects of geekdom. There are the philosophical aspects of human society and the choices it made in the war and with Ender. There is the difficulty that Ender went through being singled out and gifted. There is the coolness of the 3d battle rooms and wargames. And there is the prediction of an influencial global network that seems apart of everyday life.

      I never got a chance yet to read "Speaker for the Dead", the first sequel to Ender's Game. However, it has gotten all of the critical praise that Ender's Game did. It too won both the Hugo and Nebula awards. In fact, Orson Scott Card claimed that he wrote Ender's Game as merely a prelude to "Speaker for the Dead" and never imagined it would do so well.

      Brian Ellenberger

    6. Re:Ender's Game by BobLenon · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Dont get me wrong, reading LoTR was great. It was difficult in the sense that it just drags on, mainly in detail. Yea I wish the movies had more to it (ie Tom Bombadill(sp?)) - but I also realize that it might get too long. The Enders seriers was something that kept me wanting to read constantly, hence why I could finish the book in 2 days. It had enough detail. It also doesnt have the backdrop of history that LoTR has, and alludes to all the time.

      As for the Ender series, I enjoyed them all. The first book stands on it's own. The next three (chronological by publish date) are sequels, and you should definently read them in order. The last two (Ender's Shadow and Shadow of the Hegemon) are directly along/after Ender's Game. Read them at the end of everything (I did) or after the first. I personaly think that Hegemon was the weakest - but undoubtly leaves room for an another sequel.

      -dave

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    7. Re:Ender's Game by child_of_mercy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      8 years old for me...

      but did you understand it?

      Interestingly (alarmingly?) I find its irrevocably coloured my moral awareness.

      Now i don't thinki thats a bad thing, but i wouldn't from where I stand would I?

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    8. Re:Ender's Game by D-Fly · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Not to offend anyone, but I've never really gotten the whole obsession with Ender's game. (I've only read the first book in the series). It seemed like a pretty good story to me, but it's not like you put it down after reading it and think "that story completely changed the way I see the world."

      If I were going to recommend a couple of really excellent books for hacker summer reading, I'd aim for some quality writers who are also going to make you sit down and think a bit afterwards.

      First, I'd go with Jack Womack. Strictly in terms of how he writes, I think he's one of the most interesting SF writers around. His books experiment very interestingly with language (although they are page-turner readable), with ideas about the post-national or post-government future of the world, with artificial intelligence, and even with mutant post human freaks.

      The first book I read by him was Ambient, about a corporate assasin in New York City in the not-so-distant future. The main character thinks and tells the story in an oddly compelling near-future english slang that will have you thinking in Ambient yourself by the end of the book. Another, Random Acts of Senseless Violence, is a kind of prequel to Ambient, in which a young Upper East Side rich girl watches her world collapse into post-national chaos. The language in the book changes from proper english (with a snotty schoolgirl attitude) to Womack's invented post-English gradually to reflect the character's own slide into violent street life as the city collapses around her.

      Another hacker classic I have not seen mentioned here (surprisingly) is Vernor Vinge's Across Realtime series(there are three, read them all), which many people credit with inventing cyberpunk (the first one precedes Gibson). A more recent Vinge book, and my favorite, is A Fire Upon the Deep. Vinge is not (I would say) as good a writer as Womack, but he is a hell of a lot better than most of the hacks I've seen mentioned in this discussion, and he's had by far some of the most interesting and influential ideas in SF writing.

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    9. Re:Ender's Game by xenocide2 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Its not that Ender's Game is somehow mindbending, but that it affirms many reader's beliefs. It's often on the reading list for students, and it strikes a chord with them. Many (like myself) were students pressing through a difficult education and in high school, when disillusion and cynicism become a worldview. They see themselves as Ender, someone whos trouble they understand.

      Personally, I enjoyed the internal dialoges of Ender, but perhaps that simply displays the undiagnoses Asperger's in me. I wouldn't say that Card has tapped any powerful positive human truths or displayed them in a particularly fascinating fashion.

      In fact, most of the message is pretty negative. Survival is the first priority. To defeat your enemy you must love them (its written in the book but its not what I'd call supported). The people of the world (and even your parents!) are easily manipulated by children thanks to the power of the Internet and anonymity. People are out to trick you into doing bad things for them. You might argue that the book serves as some form of cautionary tale, like Das Boot, but the lack of consequence, carnage amd dispair makes it a poor one.

      Its pretty clear why its popular. When most soon-to-be-fans read it, its what they want to hear, and they haven't looked back. If you want to see SF writing that works well, refer to the first halves of Neal Stephenson's books. Snow Crash was witty, fast paced and full of commentary. The introductory pages were a well written colloquial storytelling. Unfortunately Stephenson ususally lacks an overall plan of where things are going. Focus would benefit the man nicely. Snow Crash had too much going on with the virus, Y.T. and Hiro, Raven, Da5id and ultimately ran out of a point. Diamond age had something to do with the liberation of China from foreign dependence, something do with educating women in the sciences and something to do with a sexual computer. Cryptonomicon had to use two seperate timelines (and a lengthy pornographic letter to the editor concerning grandma's furnature) to accomadate his logorrhea. And apparently he's not done, and moved onto another toilet called 'Quicksilver.' If someone associated with Stephenson could show a little editorial restraint, its likely his works would be among the high eschelons.

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  3. Gullivers Travels by rw2 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Free on PG and it's about time we, as a collective, got a little more broad in our selections.

    1. Re:Gullivers Travels by privacyt · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Free on PG and it's about time we, as a collective, got a little more broad in our selections.

      I couldn't agree more. Gulliver's Travels raises many fascinating philosophical questions, in the form of a historical satire. (Jonathan Swift intended the book as a complex satire on 18th century morals and thought.) Ah, if only Swift were alive today, imagine what he would write on things like:
      - the university system in the US
      - the crazy US government and its Total Information Awareness, War on Drugs/Terror/Whatever, Iraqi Freedom(TM), etc. - all the outsourcing of tech jobs.
      - Kind-hearted Micro$oft and the RIAA. Amazon's nice, well-deserved patents.

      The possibilities for Gullver Travels Version 2003 are endless!

    2. Re:Gullivers Travels by Stonehand · · Score: 2, Interesting

      No kidding.

      If we want to wax philosophical but still keep the reading accessible to the casual -- unlike, say, Spinoza's "Ethics" -- there's material such as Nozick's "Anarchy, State and Utopia". Fiction-wise, there's plenty of philosophical fiction, especially in the woe-is-the-world apocalyptic genre typified by, say, John Brunner's "Stand on Zanzibar" or other dark material such as most anything by Philip K. Dick or Franz Kafka. History can get one thinking, as well... and readers shouldn't confine themselves to their own histories, either. Need to learn about evil? Pick up something on, say, Stalin's gulag system.

      Or grab a well-written satire. Bulgakov's "The Master and Margarita" fits; it's well-written, damn funny, and absolutely brutal regarding the nonsensical bits of '30s life in the Soviet Union.

      Hell, my collection meanders between history, hard-boiled detective novels, science fiction, oft-depressing literature (e.g. Camus, Kafka...), a couple of books on photography, epic novels (RoTK), the occasional thoughtful satire, Le Carre-ish suspense/espionage... I see no reason for anybody to pigeon-hole himself to the point where he specifically wants just "geek books". I'm a human being, not a dedicated organism whose sole purpose is geekdom.

      Of course, it also costs me enough that Jeff Bezos probably /loves/ customers like me...

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    3. Re:Gullivers Travels by joeykiller · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Your points are good, except I wasn't talking about Bowling for Columbine but his book "Stupid White Men".

      You don't answer an important question, though: Why didn't Swift choose the bulldozer tactics of Michael Moore in his days, if Moores bulldozer style is easier to write?

      Swift chose what you call the intrinsically more difficult genre of metaphorical fiction, just not because he wanted to do so, but because he had to: In Swifts England there were no first amendment or equivalent, and the idea of free speech weren't very evolved.

      Therefore, as a critic of a regime or a system, you had to choose more subtle ways of expressing them than the bulldozer tacticts of a Michael Moore. This wasn't a English problem per se, this was a problem troughout Europe.

      The bonus, of course, were the great books of Swift and others. But if the people of those days could choose, I think they'd appreciate it if the system allowed the more bullish styles of a Michael Moore.

      Still, "Gulliver's travels" is a joy to read!

  4. ok by eightball01 · · Score: 4, Funny

    A complete Unix manual.

    1. Re:ok by nomadic · · Score: 2, Funny

      A complete Unix manual.

      He said he only had a month.

  5. Read? by knightinshiningarmor · · Score: 3, Funny

    Didn't you read slashdot? You'd be better off playing video games then reading!

    1. Re:Read? by isa-kuruption · · Score: 2, Funny

      And if you continue to read Slashdot and playing video games, you'll continue to misuse 'then' in your sentences when you should be using 'than'.

  6. books in pre-Change Internet form by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting
  7. Fantasy? by DreadSpoon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you like fantasy at all, I'd recommned Robert Jordan's "Wheel of Time" series, Terry Goodkind's "Sword of Truth" series (which is all but a blatant ripoff of Jordan's work, mind), or any of the Forgotten Realms mini-series (RA Salvatore is the best writer of FR books, imo).

    If you like humour (yes, the British version of it ;-), and can at least tolerate fantasy, you _must_ read Terry Pratchett's "Discworld" books. Absolutely must.

    I'd also recommend Asian folklore; those stories are surprisingly good, considering the plots seem like they were thought up by someone using the peace pipe... ;-)

    1. Re:Fantasy? by Vann_v2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I read Robert Jordan when I was in middle school and loved it. "I'm a big boy!" I thought. Then, years later, I realized that he couldn't really write well , or at least didn't write well, and only the first book was worth reading.

      Who wants to spend the time reading 7, or however many there are now, 1000+ page books whose plot is plainly drawn out as long as possible for seemingly no other reason that to extend the series? I don't, but I suppose this is a good way to kill time during the summer.

    2. Re:Fantasy? by critter_hunter · · Score: 3, Insightful

      As far as Forgotten Realms is concerned, I think RA Salvatore is the only really good writer. I haven't read all of FR, so maybe I was just unlucky, but everything else I read was crap

      Death Gate cycle, by Margaret Weis & Tracy Hickman, is damn good fantasy (especially the 4 first books). The Dragonlance trilogies are good, too, and so is Rose Of The Prophet apparently, although I haven't read that.

      Ì saw someone recommend Connelly - I must concur, although that's no summer read. If you buy all the Connellies this week, you'll have finished reading them before summer starts. They're page turners - heck, I read Blood Work in one sitting. I started reading before going to bed - didn't sleep all night :)

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    3. Re:Fantasy? by marbike · · Score: 3, Informative

      In addition to Terry Prachett, I would highly reecommend the Robert Asprin Myth series. They are very entertaining, but quite short. I read the entire series in a weekend.

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    4. Re:Fantasy? by WowTIP · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Jordan's first five or six books are good reading, but then the series start to stall. Not much happens. I have a like-dislike relationship with Goodkind's books. On one hand they are very captivating, on the other they are pretty naive.

      Now, my suggestions.

      Fantasy:
      George RR Martin - A song of fire and ice (series)
      Stephen Donaldson - The chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever (two series, one listed)
      Tad Wiliams - Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn (series)
      Stephen Erikson - A tale of the Malazan book of the fallen (series)

      Science fiction:
      Stephen Donaldson - The Gap series
      Peter F Hamilton - Night's Dawn Trilogy
      Greg Egan - Diaspora

      And all the classic; Douglas Adams, Isaac Asimov, Frank Herbert, etc.

      A word of warning. Both series by Stephen Donaldson contain main characters whose actions at times might seem offensive/disturbing to many.

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    5. Re:Fantasy? by Moofie · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I've totally lost patience with Jordan.

      His characters have been marking time for close to 2000 pages. I love epic fantasy...but only if it GOES SOMEWHERE.

      Only thing that annoys me more, is that his success is making Terry Goodkind do the same thing.

      More productively, I just read Down & Out in the Magic Kingdom by Cory Doctorow, which was fun and short. The previous night I read Mil Millington's Things my Girlfriend and I Have Argued About, which was also short and fun.

      Now I'm reading Interface, by Stephen Bury, which is a Neal Stephenson pen name. Interesting political sci-fi joint. I'm only 50 pages into it, and it's great stuff.

      Other staples of my library: David Weber's Honor Harrington books are just fun bubble-gum reading. Nothing profound, just good space opera.

      Anything by Orson Scott Card. Highlights: Pastwatch; The Redemption of Christopher Columbus and the Alvin Maker books. Ender: Duh. Of course. : )

      Anything by Sheri S. Tepper. She won't be to everyone's taste, but she's always very imaginative. And very feminist. Be warned.

      Signal to Noise and Signal Shattered by Eric S. Nylund. Imaginative and dark.

      Deepness in the Sky and Fire upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge.

      Uplift War series (9 books?) by David Brin.

      If you haven't read it, turn into a thirteen year old again and read The Belgariad and The Malloreon by David Eddings. The rest of his books get a bit tiresome but the first ten have legs. Also, while in the same mindset, the first three Dragonlance books by Weis and Hickman (Dragons of Autumn Twilight &c) are worthwhile and not too masturbatory.

      Hmmm....what else? OOOH!

      Rudy Rucker. His 'ware series (Software, Wetware, Freeware, Realware) is funny cyberpunk. Saucer Wisdom is...indescribable and bizarre.

      That should keep you busy. Let me know when you're done with these.

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    6. Re:Fantasy? by Moofie · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I found GRRM to be like Goodkind, only not a wacko objectivist. And grittier. Kills characters left right and center. I'm eager for his next book, but Goodkind has fallen off my "must buy!" list. When he fell, he hit Robert Jordan and broke the guy's leg. So if the next book is even later and less focused, sorry fanboys, it's my fault.

      Oooh! Harry Harrison's Hammer and Cross series was fun, too.

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  8. How about... by ath0mic · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...something not "scifi-geek-hacker" for a change? It's a big world out there.

    1. Re:How about... by Cire · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Damn right. Read Down and out in Paris and London by George Orwell. One of the best books I've read in a long time.


      Cire

    2. Re:How about... by tomakaan · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'd definitely have to agree with ya there. Explore! I have to recommend anything by Tom Clancy. You should be kept interested by the constant changing of seemingly unrelated plots that, in the end, all wind together.

    3. Re:How about... by madfgurtbn · · Score: 3, Informative

      More non-hacker-specific suggestions:

      Water-Method Man, John Irving
      Sound and Fury, Falkner
      Of Human Bondage, Maugham (Perfect for someone just getting out of school)
      All Quiet on the Wester Front. (Not exactly a day-brightener, but should be required reading for all humans)

      A good proto-hacker story is A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court. Mark Twain was a bit of a technology buff/hacker himself, and a failed VC. IIRC, he blew his Huckleberry Finn/Tom Sawyer fortune on some kind of early typesetting machine or typewriter or something. I suppose I could look it up if I felt like it, but Google is way over on that other tab in Moz.

      But yeah, try something non-hacker once in a while. It's good and good for you.

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    4. Re:How about... by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Heaven and Hell - about Led Zeppelin

      The Culture books by Iain Banks - I would start with Player of Games or Use of Weapons

      The Bear Went over the Mountain - Soviet Combat Tactics in Afghanistan

      Cartoon History of the Universe series Volumes 1-3

    5. Re:How about... by ldspartan · · Score: 5, Informative

      Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, by Robert M. Pirsig. Buy it from Amazon.

      The book is neither about Zen Buddhism or motorcycle maintenance. Its tremendously good, and thought provoking, particularly for those analytical minds out there. I can't recommend it enough.

    6. Re:How about... by wfrp01 · · Score: 2

      Yes. Yes. Yes.

      It doesn't have to be sci-fi to be mind-bending. Try "The Crying of Lot 49" by Pynchon. Almost anything by Nabokov is great. If you don't want to invest in a whole novel, try his "Nabokov's dozen" collection of short stories. Short stories in general are a lot of fun. Get one of those big fat books of collected short stories - American Authors, Great Fiction, etc. It's a great way to introduce yourself to authors you might otherwise never read. If you like their short stuff, then you might decide to invest time in some of their more substantial work. Collections of Sci-Fi short stories are fun in the same way. Twain. Dostoevsky. Dickens. These names have staying power for a reason. Myself, I'm not very good at picking up contemporary authors. I let the test of time do my work for me. Pure laziness. But I'll accept suggestions from people I trust. And I put books down and quit when I don't like them. You're not obligated to finish... Don't buy them. Use the library.

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    7. Re:How about... by simeonbeta2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Ok. How about books that have some philosophical meat on which to chew. Tom Wolfe's A Man in Full and Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged spring to mind. (Parenthetically, while I wouldn't say I'm an "objectivist", I just read Atlas Shrugged for the first time. I was recently perusing the hof when I saw this interview with Ralph Nader. Read his answer to question 3. Nader is a deeply immoral man.)

      Back to the question. You could just try a different genre than scifi/techno-thriller. How about crime noir (Raymond Chandler's books) or some serious historical writing (try reading Shelby Foote's series on the Civil War).

      I realise that this may not be exactly what you are looking for, but geek encompasses a lot more than specifically technical or fantasy/sci-fi writing. Part of being a geek is the ability to immerse deeply in and think critically about the task at hand. Philosophy, history, culture, ethics, theology... Good literature that grapples with deep questions is always worth exploring.

    8. Re:How about... by sh!va · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Continuing down the non-hacker line, I love Salman Rushdie. His non-linearity never fails to amaze me.

      I loved Fury and Midnight's Children. Reading Satanic Verses right now and The Ground Beneath Her Feet is on my post-graduation list.

      Also try Bill Bryson's books. A Walk In The Woods is very good.

      Cry of the Kalahari was one my favourite books of all time.

      Surely You're Joking, My Feynman - while not very "non-hacker", this book is _the_best_ I've read. Funny, nay hilarious, witty, amazing. Quite a few things to learn.

      Finally, if you're coming out of tech school with an engineering degree or something of the sort, (ie without a significant liberal arts background) now might be a good time to round off your educations with some books about religion, philosophy, economics, politics and business (to name a few). While the subjects might sound drab, you might just find your calling (econ for me).

      Happy reading.

    9. Re:How about... by simong_oz · · Score: 3, Informative

      great suggestion. Here's some of my favourites, fiction & non-fiction. You'll probably spot some themes :)

      NON-FICTION:
      * Joe Simpson - Touching the Void ("Dark Shadows Falling" is good too, but "Touching the Void" is the one you won't be able to put down)
      * Jon Krakauer - Into Thin Air (you should probably also read Anatoli Boukreev's "The Climb" for his account of the Everest tragedy, though it's nowhere near as good a book as Krakauer's)
      * Nick Hornby - Fever Pitch (for all sports fans)
      * Steven Vogel - Cats' Paws and Catapults: Mechanical Worlds of Nature and People
      * Simon Winchester - The Map That Changed the World
      * David Attenborough - Life On Air (biography)

      FICTION:
      * George RR Martin - A Song of Ice and Fire series
      * Kim Stanley Robinson - Red Mars (the rest of the trilogy is also good, but nowhere near as good as the first book IMO)
      * Matthew Reilly - Ice Station (I challenge anyone to put this down once the action starts)
      * Erich Maria Remarque - All Quiet on the Western Front (should be required reading for everyone)
      * Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn - One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich
      * Stephen King - Christine
      * Robert Ludlum - The Bourne Identity (please don't judge this on the movie - the book is on another level)
      * John Fowles - The Collector
      * Douglas Adams - The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy series

      there's lots more, but hopefully there's some decent ideas for someone there.

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      "Because it's there." - George Mallory, when asked why he wanted to climb Mt Everest, March 18, 1923 (New York Times)
  9. Michael Crighton(sp?)'s "Prey" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Good book, includes guys wearing bow down for I am root T-Shirts.

  10. Robert Anton Wilson by barkingcorndog · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Good stuff to read before starting your first job. Check out the Illuminatus! trilogy.

    --
    "I know together we'll make the possible totally impossible" - Homme
    1. Re:Robert Anton Wilson by Nutrimentia · · Score: 2, Informative

      Illuminatus! Trilogy
      Shroedinger's Cat Trilogy
      Masks of the Illuminati

      This is a trilogy of sorts that includes trilogies for the first 2 books of the trilogy. Great reading though, very stimulating, funny, and you'll probably learn something.

      The Principia Discordia is a fun read too, and available online. Better to check it out as a book and randomly flip through it though.

  11. Dune by DarkSkiesAhead · · Score: 5, Insightful


    I have to recommend the old sci-fi classic, Dune. It did a marvelous job of creating a strange yet self-consistent world. Gread read. The other books in the series are sometimes dry and uninteresting, but still worth it.

    1. Re:Dune by El · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yes and no. If Frank Herbert had stopped at two books, I would have said it was a great story. Unfortunately, after the second book they get more and more incoherent and harder to follow. The theory is he was able to afford too many drugs after selling the first two...

      --

      "Freedom means freedom for everybody" -- Dick Cheney

    2. Re:Dune by Kairos21 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I think dune was a great series. In respons to the last two books, most people complain that none of the original characters were in it and it was hard to understand. My take on those two books were that they were the start of a new series based on the dune universe. Rather than Herbert making an entirely new universe with new rules an new characters, he simply set his new story thousands of years after the original dune books. For those that haven't read the last two books I'd say hold off for two years when the seventh and final dune book will be out. Hopefully Herbert's son can follow his fathers notes well enough, as his prequals are excelent.

  12. Cuckoo's Egg by cvanaver · · Score: 5, Informative

    Cuckoo's Egg: Tracking a Spy Through the Maze of Computer Espionage by Cliff Stoll

    Good documentary account of tracing international hackers from a sysadmin-like guy's point of view. A little dated now but well-written, humorous and very entertaining.

  13. Summer Reading by methangel · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I recommend The Hobbit or anything else by J.R.R. Tolkien

    Or if you have already read those too many times, try out The Chronicles of Narnia by C.S. Lewis ... it was a great series.

  14. Read something that will FUCK with your head by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    and leave you feeling dirty.
    Like Naked Lunch

    1. Re:Read something that will FUCK with your head by FearUncertaintyDoubt · · Score: 4, Funny

      Naked Lunch

      "I can think of at least two things wrong with that title" - Nelson Muntz
  15. Powers Graphic Novels by davco9200 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Check out Powers: Who Killed Retro Girl?

    The Powers comic series is ground breaking and really well done. The basic premise is that there is a cop investigating the murder of a superhero.

    Really stunning work and surprisingly moving. Great written dialog.

  16. Pattern Recognition by gmplague · · Score: 2, Informative

    I am actually finishing up the new Gibson book, Pattern Recognition, as part of my summer reading, it's definitely a sci-fi/hacker/geek/saavycool book that people like. They assigned it to my entire freshman class at a respected liberal arts university. I read the Art of Deception a few months ago. While good, it wasn't exactly what I'd call summer reading material. Hope this all helps.

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    __________________________________________
    Take comfort in your ignorance.
    Grandmaster Plague
  17. Hyperion by mckayc · · Score: 3, Informative

    The Hyperion series ("Hyperion" and "Fall of Hyperion" by Dan Simmons) is one of the best, if not the best, works of Sci-Fi I've ever read. Better than Dune, IMHO.

    It's something fresh and original and it'll change the way you think :)

    1. Re:Hyperion by Lux · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Good writers borrow, great writers steal, and Hyperion is, hands down, the best sci-fi I've ever read. Keats, Beowulf, Shakespeare, Chaucer, The Bible, and the list goes on. Simmons takes some of the best bits of them all and weaves them into a world all his own. And it's not just the theft that's good: the setting is rich, and the characters are richer. It's simply a joy to read.

      You can read the series on several levels, too. I read the first two books as a sort of attempt at finishing the plot of Keats' poem Hyperion in an alternate setting. The first book, like the unfinished manuscript indtroduces a lot while finishing little, and I think you can map entities and groups in the books into the world of the poem, reaching meaningful conclusions about where Simmons would have liked the poem to go.

      Still, after the first book, the second is kind of a dissapointment. The whole rest of the series feels like it exists only to tie up the loose ends left by the first book, and develop and explore the universe. These are not bad aims, there's plenty left to develop and enjoy, but they fail to live up to the first, let alone manage to outdo it. That said, I still read and enjoyed each of them very much.

  18. Weird dark and twisted sci-fantasy by PateraSilk · · Score: 2, Informative

    Nothing like Shadow of the Torturer and its companion novels by Gene Wolfe. Also props to those who suggested Dune and The Cyberiad.

    --
    Danke tres mucho, tovarishch.
  19. art of deception by cosyne · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm reading Mitnick's book right now- I can't say I reccomend it. So far it just seems like 'how not to give out your password For Dummies'. It has all these little "Lingo" and "Mitnick Message" sections to try and clue you in on key points, in case you didn't pick up from the stories that you shouldn't give out potentially sensitive info to people you don't know. Maybe it get's better later on, but up to like chapter 8 it's kinda boring.

    1. Re:art of deception by NeilRyan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      On the other hand, Kevin Mitnick's "The Art of Deception" is THE most important book available concerning Information Security - period. It has its flaws, sure - it often seems endlessly repetitive (First you Tell 'em what you're gonna tell 'em, then you Tell 'em, then you Tell 'em what you told 'em...). But that's due to the fundamental problem Mitnick faces: How do you get people to understand something that's blindingly obvious to yourself? To call the book "Passwords for dummies" misses the point. The point that Mitnick's dealing with is the fact that the World (the Real World) doesn't see a password as a key to a lock, the Real World sees a password as yet another On/Off switch (and a "needlessly complicated" one, at that).

      And that "Hey, it's only an On/Off pushbutton, what's the big deal" attitude is THE biggest problem in the Information Security world. A thing that Kevin documents - beautifully, and fascinatingly. His proposed solutions don't "satisfy" (I expect he needs to give more thought to the question of "How do we keep them out?"), but boy - _nobody_ documents the fundamental Security problem so well!

      Worth a read, if you're interested in Security.

  20. Cryptonomicon by loudmouth · · Score: 2, Insightful

    IMnvHO it's better than Snowcrash, even

  21. This isn't in your requested genre... by elizalovesmike · · Score: 4, Informative
    But given your state in life... it's a book well worth reading...
    • The Fountainhead
    by Ayn Rand, of course, then onto
    • Atlas Shrugged
    ...

    There are few better favors you can do yourself before entering the working world in earnest than to have a nice philosophical framework.

    Good luck!
    --
    Those who give up their power willingly deserve none.
  22. not scifi... by tobes · · Score: 2, Insightful

    but you could check out the classics like Zen And The Art Of Motorcycle Maintenance, Illuminatis Trilogy, anything by Rand...those all seem to appeal to geek sensibilities.

  23. Mitnick Book by Esteban · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'd stay away from the Mitnick book, if I were you. It reads like an executive summary of a much more interesting book. There's not much there: it's got large print and bullet points every few pages.

  24. Kurt Vonnegut Jr. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Slaughterhouse Five

    Cat's Cradle

    Player Piano

    The Sirens of Titan

    I enjoyed them 30 yrs ago as much as in the past few weeks. Unemployed and all. Don't forget 1984, The Doors of Perception and Fahrenheit 451. Enjoy.

    1. Re:Kurt Vonnegut Jr. by Midajo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Slaughterhouse Five is a brilliant piece of work, and fairly geeky as well. IIRC, the first line is, "Billy Pilgrim has come unstuck in time."

      Jailbird is another Vonnegut classic worth picking up.

  25. Reading by cje · · Score: 5, Interesting
    A lot of times in the summer, I'm too busy with other things to spend a lot of time reading major novels, but in the time that I do get to read, I like to tear into collections of short stories, things that you can get through in an abbreviated sitting. Some of the stuff I read last summer:
    • The complete works of H.P. Lovecraft (Ia! Ia! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
    • The Complete Sherlock Holmes: Stories and Novels by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
    • Edgar Allan Poe: The Complete Tales and Poems (the tales, mostly; I'm not big on poetry)
    Not exactly sci-fi geek hacker stuff, of course, but I've read through most of Stephenson and Gibson's stuff and found that I like classic mystery/suspense as well. If it's hard sci-fi you're looking for, check out a book called The Stars My Destination by Alfred Bester, if you haven't already. It's old (circa 1950s or 1960s IIRC) but a great read. And then there's the classics like Clarke's Rendezvous with Rama or 2001 series.
    --
    We're going down, in a spiral to the ground
  26. Wicked by rhombic · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If you want a good perspective bender, check out Wicked: The life and times of the Wicked Witch of the West, by Gregory Maguire. It totally re-draws the whole Oz story from a different direction, makes you think about how good and evil depend on the perspective you take, and who you believe. One of the best books I've read in a while

    --
    1984 was supposed to be a warning, not an instruction manual.
  27. The best of the best by Zerocool3001 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Something you might find interesting that satisfies your "Sci-fi" requirement with added humor. the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy series is a great read.

    --
    Science will save us. The question is, will it destroy us first?
  28. Well, there's nothing like a good Porno mag after by Martin+Marvinski · · Score: 2, Funny

    a hard day coding. A hot 22 old whore getting her pussy fucked in the bright pages of a magazine makes my day. It'll make yours too.

  29. Just one? by signe · · Score: 5, Informative


    One book in a month of nothing to do? Maybe one book a week, if you're slow!

    Anyways, Cryptonomicon was a good read, if a little lengthy. In fact, anything by Stephenson that you haven't read (Zodiac and Diamond Age were great). Just ignore the complaints about endings and enjoy the rest of the story.

    Asimov's Foundation series is a great choice as well. Not so much with the hacker angle (well, hacking of a different kind, surely) but very interesting.

    If you want to go military geek sci-fi, David Weber's Honor Harrington series is excellent. You can get the first book, On Basilisk Station from the Baen Free Library. And if you buy the most recent book, War of Honor, in hardcover, you get a CD that has all the books in the series on it. Or you can just download the CD somewhere online.

    Just a few suggestions. I have a ton of other things on my reading list, but that's a start.

    -Todd

    --
    "The details of my life are quite inconsequential..."
    1. Re:Just one? by Midnight+Warrior · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Cryptonomicron is historical fiction focusing around the age of Alan Turing (WorldWarII) and really centers around encryption. This is a read-several-times-and-still-see-something-neat book. Also, shortly after this book came out, SeaLand, the country, started making news again. No accident I think as this book kind of gave a "business plan" to the island.

      Diamond Age is another read-several-times book that focuses around where nano-tech can go. It remembers that not all technologies are controlled. Stephenson also amplifies where electronic paper/organic LEDs can go - finally we have an author telling us something beneficial from technology instead of always calling new technology evil.

    2. Re:Just one? by Enry · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If you do decide to read Foundation, read it in the order they were written, not the order of the timeline. There are prequels, post prequels, pre-prequels, and postquels. The first three books (written in the 1950s) were genius. The remainder (written in the 80s) are good, but not as good. Asimov was basically pressured into writing the later books by his publisher.

      Then there are the ones written after his death by other authors. Don't bother. I got about 1/4 of the way through Foundation's End and realized I had no idea what was going on.

  30. New Mitnick Book by djcapelis · · Score: 2, Informative

    Personally I wasn't all that impressed with the new mitnick book, you can get more information online. Which, in and of itself is a wonderful resource if you want to read something fun and learn at the same time. Make sure you have read all of BOFH, and the browse satirewire.com's archives for a bit of humor. Then move on to safari, the SANs Reading room and some hacking sites and read up on the latest tech.

    Another thing to look into is some of the more esoteric cool networking software out there... not exactly reading but something to do... kernel patches are fun!

    --
    I touch computers in naughty places
  31. Code Book, by Simon Singh by ruebarb · · Score: 2, Informative

    just a cool book on the history of codes and encryption - It' been reviewed on /. - history of codes...the Codebreakers is good too, though pretty long and mostly centered on the WWII Enigma cracking.

    don't waste your time though trying to solve the puzzles at the end, unless you're bored...the puzzle and 10,000 pounds were won less then a year after the challenge was issued, I think...

    RB

    --

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    ah honey, we're all resplendent - Bill Mallonee
  32. good read by bark · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How about the complete works of Shakespeare?

    Nothing beats a nice assortment of Elizabethan plays.

    1. Re:Good Read by happyDave · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'd have to disagree. Cryptonomicon balances character and plot much better than Diamond Age. I've read most of Stephenson's stuff, except for Big U. Zodiac, Snow Crash (x3), Diamond Age, Cryptonomicon (x2.5--I'm in the middle of my third go-round right now).

      I loved Cryptonomicon. It was the first of his books that I read. I think the characters are fully realized, fully realistic, and, best of all, dynamic.

      The Cap'n Crunch chapter is good, but my favorite is Ronald Reagan's interview with Bobby Shaftoe. Bobby Shaftoe is awesome. Haiku-spouting, Philipina-loving stupendous bad-ass. Actually, I changed my mind. My favorite passage (out of almost any book) is the first paragraph. That and the "until he's 25" section of Snow Crash. Stephenson has the pulse of man-geeks.

      Uninteresting characters? Maybe. Maybe...no. Both main Waterhouses are interesting, and I think the depiction of Lawrence's naivete is just amazing. His ability to switch viewpoints from character to character and to modulate his writing style just enough to let you get a feel for each character. He doesn't write the same for Lawrence, Randy, or Bobby.

      The worst thing about the book is, unfortunately, the editing. There are quite a few typos, and some major slip-ups that should have been caught.

      By the way, if you get a chance, listen to the audiobook of Snow Crash. Audiobooks are the saving grace of commuting.

  33. Book suggestion by war3rd · · Score: 4, Informative

    Hyperion by Dan Simmons. Or the whole series if you have the time. This guy pulls out everything from Canturbury Tales to cyberfreakiness in this work. Definitely a well-rounded read and incredibly absorbing. If you enjoyed any of the books you mentioned then you should like the Hyperion Cantos.

    --
    Got sushi? The Sushi FAQ
  34. Some must-read modern classics for geeks by privacyt · · Score: 3, Insightful
    The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy series by Douglas Adams -- a hilarious take on Sci-Fi, the Hitchhiker's Guide has been read by many of the most influential hackers. (I'm using that term in its good sense.)

    Then there's that little sci fi novel by George Orwell called 1984 -- which is important for geeks who want to be informed citizens

  35. Good Omens by Niel Gaiman & Terry Pratchett by Hollinger · · Score: 4, Funny

    Absolutely stellar story. Check Amazon.
    Pratchett (of Discworld fame) and Gaiman (of Sandman fame) may seem an unlikely combination, but the topic (Armageddon) of this fast-paced novel is old hat to both. Pratchett's wackiness collaborates with Gaiman's morbid humor; the result is a humanist delight to be savored and reread again and again. You see, there was a bit of a mixup when the Antichrist was born, due in part to the machinations of Crowley, who did not so much fall as saunter downwards, and in part to the mysterious ways as manifested in the form of a part-time rare book dealer, an angel named Aziraphale. Like top agents everywhere, they've long had more in common with each other than the sides they represent, or the conflict they are nominally engaged in. The only person who knows how it will all end is Agnes Nutter, a witch whose prophecies all come true, if one can only manage to decipher them. The minor characters along the way (Famine makes an appearance as diet crazes, no-calorie food and anorexia epidemics) are as much fun as the story as a whole, which adds up to one of those rare books which is enormous fun to read the first time, and the second time, and the third time... --This text refers to the Paperback edition.

    1. Re:Good Omens by Niel Gaiman & Terry Pratchett by Medieval_Thinker · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I heartily agree with this recommendation.

      My mother bought me this book because she thought I would find the "motorcyclists of the apocalypse" amusing. It was a great read, and I have often laughed about some of the images.

      Do yourself a favor and get this book. Then start listening to NPR. Buy the books they review. You get a wide variety of good reads this way. I got _Ice_Masters_ via NPR last summer, and I never would have bought it otherwise.

      If you haven't read _Confederacy_of_Dunces_ do it soon. _Catch_22_ is another classic I have read more than once. _Jupiter's_Travels_ is a winner and the author is currently going around the world again.

      I'll spare you a longer list.

  36. Depends. Enjoy sanity? by pla · · Score: 3, Funny

    Anything not tech-related (sci-fi excluded, of course).

    Seriously, books with pictures of obscure animals on the cover, done in a faux-woodprint style, count as what we call "reference books".

    When you have a specific question about how to use a particular construct in Malbolge, you pick up the book with the woodcut of the naked molerat(tm) and turn to the chapter on painless suicide methods.

    You don't just READ such a book from cover-to-cover, a feat only slightly less painful than Vogon poetry.

    Which brings me to my real suggestion - Reread the entire works of Douglas Adams. Most folks know the HHgttG series, but not the joys of "Dirk Gently's Holsitic detective agency" or "The Long Dark Teatime of the Soul". Great books in their own rights.

  37. Vinge of course by fuzzeli · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think that Vernor Vinge is an essential geek read, most especially the loosely-related and absolutely fantastic pair, "A Fire Upon the Deep" and "A Deepness in the Sky". And the Motie Books, "The Mote in God's Eye" and "The Gripping Hand" by Niven and Pournelle, are a great first contact story. Also, anything by Robert Forward (especially Dragon's Egg and Starquake) is guaranteed to by intellectually fascinating and horribly written.

  38. Piers Anthony! by jargonCCNA · · Score: 2

    The XANTH series is an absolute riot. I highly recommend it.

    --
    Matthew G P Coe
    http://mgpcoe.blogspot.com/
  39. How was this missed? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The Foundation Trilogy (Asimov) won the Hugo award for best sci-fi/fantasy trilogy ever (this award has only been given out once, obviously). Definitely worth reading.

  40. Iain M. Banks SF Books by PhoenixK7 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    All of these SF books are pretty good. He writes pretty good fiction as well.

    Reading "Consider Phlebas" (title is a nod to T S Eliot's "The Waste Land") right now.

    1. Re:Iain M. Banks SF Books by morn · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yes! Banks is an unsung hero here in the US, I think because his books are marketed amongst the throwaway SF paperbacks (complete with stereotypical SF/fantasy covers), so people never pick them up. Use of Weapons is out of print in the USA, but it can still be found in the UK, and shipping from amazon.co.uk is not very expensive (plus, for what it's worth, you'll get the cool looking stylised UK cover art). I highly recommend it.

      --

      ...or am I missing something?

  41. Seek the path less read by pyarra · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Every geek reads Gibson and Stephenson (and rightly so) but you ought to have a look at some stuff by Greg Egan, Michael Marshall Smith, Bruce Sterling and Pat Cadigan. Their names crop up less often, but their writings are excellent. I'm re-reading Egan's "Quarantine", and it's amazing stuff. I've read Sterling's "Islands in the Net" so many times I've lost count.

  42. Don't be a categorisist-- read! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Hey, you're already a qualified geek, so why don't you try to broaden your perspective a bit and read something else, like Wittgenstein. Seriously, as a former fresh graduate: take advantage of the time to see what else is out there... don't pigeon-hole yourself- read something random.

    -spmd

  43. Chabon is good by Ars-Gonzo · · Score: 3, Informative

    Summerland, by Michael Chabon, is definitely a geek book. It's hard to describe what it is without giving a lot of the fun away. It's a fast read, and very rewarding though. Chabon is the guy who wrote The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Klay, about two cousins who live during WW2 and create a Golden Age comic hero. If you've not read Kavalier and Klay, it's very good, but it's pretty dense. I'm a fast reader, and it took me a solid two weeks to mow through it.

    I also read Masters of Doom recently, which is about the early days of id software, Carmack, and Romero. It's a New Journalism book, where the author recreated dialog in conversations and things like that so it reads more like a novel than non-fiction. The writing's not the best, but it's entertaining, especially if you remember reading the trials and tribulations of Quake, Quake2, and Daikatana on the Shugashack and Bluesnews.

    Finally, if you've not read William Gibsons Count Zero, it's excellent. I've read Neuromancer, Pattern Recognition, Idoru and am finishing Virtual Light right now, but I think I like Count Zero better than the others. Virtual Light, Pattern Recognition, Idoru, and Count Zero all share similar themes (strong but secretly vulnerable heroines in trouble with big corporations) but Count Zero does it better than the others.

    I also just finished The Diamond Age, by Stevenson. I was pretty unimpressed with it. Its plotlines aren't as intricate as Cryptonomicons, and it seems kind of like Stevenson trying to be Gibson. I was pretty unimpressed. I'm going to pick up another Stevenson book after I finish with Virtual Light.

    I could dig up some Amazon links, but I'm too lazy.

    Hope this helps! ///Will

  44. Philip K. Dick by squarefish · · Score: 4, Informative

    The man responsible for the stories that spawed minority report and blade runner deserves some attention here. I highly recomment the valis trilogy: Valis, The Divine Invasion and The Transmigration of Timothy Archer

    --
    Creationists are a lot like zombies. Slow, but powerful and numerous. And they all want to eat our brains.
    1. Re:Philip K. Dick by Kuad · · Score: 2, Informative

      Quite honestly, I don't like Dick's novels all that much. They're certainly good reads, but I think they pale next to his short stories. Grab ahold of some of his short story collections and read them. "Second Variety" (which the film Screamers was very loosely based on) is especially creepy.

  45. Oh my! by Vann_v2 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I've seen two people (and replied to one) recommend Robert Jordan's horrible "Wheel of Time" series. Unless you like tedium I suggest you stay away from all but perhaps the first two books.

    As for my list, Frank Herbert's Dune is always a good read and, though I know many people would disagree, the fourth book, God Emperor of Dune is my favorite of the series. It's the culmination of the subtle (in the first book) Nietzschean subtext involving becoming the greatest predator ever to live, and so forth. Sounds goofy, I suppose, but I liked it.

    Another, possibly less well-known though, again in my opinion, much better written series is Gene Wolfe's Book of the New Sun. Gene Wolfe loves to play mind games with his readers and more often than not you're presented with puzzles that at first you don't even realize are puzzles. The whole thing is very novel and, while short (four books with about 200 pages each -- compare that to Jordan's drivel which is 7, or maybe more now, at around 1000 each) it is intense and well worth the read. Aside from the intellectual motivation to read the series, it is also simply a great story. You won't see Gene Wolfe using science-fiction as a way to retell mostly old stories(*) in some sort of "futuristic" setting. Could I possibly gush some more? Maybe, but seriously, this is one of the finest pieces of real science-fiction to come out in a long time, perhaps ever.

    (*)Ok, I lie, he does retell old stories and seemingly use the old ploys most science fiction authors do, but always in a way to poke fun at that way of writing. For example, all of his characters' names sound like science-fiction character names (Severian, Ymar, Palaemon, etc.), but in reality they're all names of obscure Catholic saints. Also, his retelling of the story of Theseus and the Minotaur using 19th century ships (which ones, I won't say, since even this fact isn't all that obvious when reading it) is wonderful.

    Anyhow, in summary, etc., and so forth, I suggest you give Gene Wolfe a try. Really. Do it. HURRY!

  46. Note on Ayn Rand by cr0z01d · · Score: 5, Informative

    I feel kind of obliged to point out that you need to be ready to read those books. They're full of hatred for communism, and a dogmatic obsession with Ayn Rand's objectivism. Be careful lest you get to involved with those books, take a moment to step aside and try to view them from a different context than they present. Very powerful work, but on another level it is propaganda and you should always remember that.

    In addition, The Fountainhead has one of the ugliest scenes I have ever come across in any piece of literature. I'm referring to the scene involving Roarke and Dominique, which in my mind, seems more or less equivalent to rape, yet is not treated as such in the book.

    I'm just trying to give adequate warning for those who don't know what to expect from the books, they are very powerful and well written.

    1. Re:Note on Ayn Rand by cr0z01d · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Are you upset at communism, or are you upset at oppressive, totalitarian communist regimes? Unfortunately, I do not feel that the book adequetely explains why communism is so bad. It does explain how ludicrous it is to equate equality with the abolishment of a system based on meritocracy (e.g., authorship as a meritocracy), that is to say, artifically give everyone an equal voice when some have no desire to speak or have shamelessly derivative voices. I agree with this aspect of egoism / objectivism. However, Ayn Rand quite incorrectly associates this extreme behavior with communism (though it no less applies to democracy), and continues, equating charity and altruism with the destruction of creative effort.

      This is counter to my life experience, I would not be half who I am if were nobody to have cared about me. I can see how Rand, having lived through the Bolshevik revolution, thought differently. Her fault lies in incorrectly associating the ostensible goals and the methods of Russian communism. The methods are deplorable, obviously -- but the goals, which she attacks with equal if not greater vehemence, are merely to secure a better standard of living for all humans.

      This is the focus of her literary assaults. It is denial of our interdependence; a rejection of human kindness.

    2. Re:Note on Ayn Rand by Dolly_Llama · · Score: 2, Insightful
      ...and a dogmatic obsession with Ayn Rand's objectivism

      Considering Ayn Rand herself wrote them, is it really possible that they could demonstrate a dogmatic obession? Isn't that sort of intrinsic?

      --

      Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. -- Carl Sagan

  47. Things that I like after 40 years of reading SciFi by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 5, Informative

    Dune if you haven't already - the best.
    City by Clifford Simak - classic.
    Shockwave Rider - the first real computer/scifi cyberpunkish book. The term 'worm' comes from this book.
    Naked Sun - Asimov - genesis of R. Daneel Olivaw, the character that Commander Data was based on.
    Nine Princes in Amber - after Lord of the Rings my favorite fantasy book.
    Left Hand of Darkness - IMHO the 2nd best scifi novel ever written after only Dune.
    Ringworld by Larry Niven - extrodinary world building and imagination in hard scifi genre.
    Gateway by Frederick Pohl - ditto.
    Startide Rising, David Brin - wonderful novel set in world where man is lifting other species to intelligence. Terrific writing, and the sequels are excellent too.

  48. Good hacker mystery by jwjcmw · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If you like mystery/suspense mixed in with your hacker lit, then check out The Cuckoo's Egg by Cliff Stoll. It's the true story of a Unix (copyright Novell) administrator who is able to track and help capture someone hacking into his systems at the Lawrence Berkeley labs in the late 80's. A very good read.

  49. More books to read by divide+overflow · · Score: 4, Informative
    Here's some books I really enjoyed reading one summer:
    • Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas by Hunter S. Thompson
    • Brave New World by Aldous Huxley
    • Propaganda by Jacques Ellul
    • Catch-22 by Joseph Heller
    And here is a book I'm working on now...I'm still about 1,100 pages from knowing if it will deliver the goods:
    • A New Kind of Science by Stephen Wolfram
  50. Sci-Fi Fantasy books on a 1-10 scale by RembrandtX · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I read alot.
    I rank the books I read on a 1-10 scale.
    Not everyone agrees with me :P

    http://www.remsbox.com/showBooks.php

    might give you some ideas if nothing else. :)

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    --Ne auderis delere orbem rigidum meum, non erravi pernicose!
    1. Re:Sci-Fi Fantasy books on a 1-10 scale by roju · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Out of curiousity, is that a homebrew script, or what?
      I'm looking to index my collection and what I've read..

  51. Hitchhicker's Guide to the Galaxy by Seek_1 · · Score: 5, Informative

    .. by Douglas Adams. It's a classic and I finally got around to reading it.. plus the other four parts! ;)

    And I have to say, it was the most fun I've had reading a book in a LOOONNNGGG time! It's a fairly quick read, but it's completely enjoyable. I highly recommend picking it up if you haven't already read it.

  52. My final recommendations today: Intelligence! by Nutrimentia · · Score: 2, Informative

    Hofstadter's Godel, Escher, Bach: an Eternal Golden Braid . Good stuff. A thinking book.

    The other is George Dyson's Darwin Among the Machines: The Evolution of Global Intelligence. Incredible history of communication and computing with a pretty cool argument abuot the possible future of computer intelligence. He doesn't follow the well-worn tracks of those who basically posit a Short-Circuit-esque Johnny5 for the future of computers, instead exploring the actual nature of intelligence and how it may emerge uniquely among computer networks. A presentation of the thesis is available at Edge.org.

    You won't go wrong with these books.

  53. Stay young with reading! by Erich · · Score: 2, Informative

    Read the Lord of the Rings Trilogy (by JRR Tolkien) and the Narnia books (by CS Lewis) every year. Otherwise you'll grow older. Keeping the magic of your youth alive in you is essential for having an interesting, flavorful life.

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    -- Erich

    Slashdot reader since 1997

  54. Uplift saga by El · · Score: 2, Informative

    All 6 books: Sundiver, Startide Rising, The Uplift War, Brightness Reef, Infinity's Shore, and Heaven's reach. David Brin's best work; entertaining and thought provoking at the same time.

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    "Freedom means freedom for everybody" -- Dick Cheney

  55. You won't feel special.. by asdfasdfasdfasdf · · Score: 2, Informative

    But the NY Times current #1 best seller, The Da Vinci Code is a gripping read. I started and couldn't put it down until I finished the book less than 18 hours later. (I do read faster than that-- One has to sleep, take care of family, etc..)

    Not only is the plot fast and compelling, but the pseudo-history secret society stuff is fascinating. You'll never look at Da Vinci's 'The Last Supper' the same way again, guaranteed!

    Sure, you may be reading the same book as the guy next to you on the train-- but it's popular for a reason!

  56. whereis /usr/man/ROMEO? by coupland · · Score: 3, Funny

    I've got it! Are there any books about two young lovers who meet in a chat room, but they are destined never to be together because one is a Mac user and one is Linux user? They try to pursue their love in secret chat rooms using fake handles, but then the LUG/MUG finds out and forbids them to ever speak again! In desperation she pretends to have switched to Windows, and he in his despair formats his HDD and really does install Windows! She comes online, realizes her lover has been seized by the cold, inhuman clutches of Redmond and she formats and installs Windows too! No greater a love story has ever been told.

    Now that's literature, why didn't anyone ever come up with an idea like that!

  57. You read one Lovecraft story you've read 'em all. by glrotate · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Same with Poe. Last summer I read the complete works of Poe and two things stuck out. First is his prose. It is absolutely fantastic. People just don't give Poe credit for the quality of his writing. Unfortunately the second thing that sticks out is the redundancy. The guy really only had about 3 themes he worked over and over.

    Lovecraft is much the same. Read Cthulu, be disappointed at the ending, ask "Is this it?" and move on. The rest of his stories are reformulations of the same.

  58. The Prince by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    "The Prince" by Niccolo Machiavelli.
    It was written in 1505, and has some interesting insights on how to gain and keep power.
    Google it, it's free. Or at http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0553212788/ qid=1054175326/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/104-6756848-13519 66.

  59. short story collections (was Re:Vinge of course) by WillAdams · · Score: 2, Informative

    Absolutely essential Vinge, and a short story mentioned in ``The Jargon File'' is his ``True Names'' which is a prototypical story of cyberspace. It's available in the short story collection _True Names and Other Dangers_ and is the gem of the lot.

    Another story like to that (which was amazingly prophetic) was the short story ``Catacomb'' which was published in _Dragon Magazine_ a long while back.

    Another excellent short story collection is Hal Clement's _Space Lash_ (originally published as _Small Changes_). ``The Mechanic'' is a fascinating story (though badly described on the back cover text) of genegeneering by ``mechanics'' whose knowledge encompasses that of several PhDs of the previous generation.

    William

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    Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
  60. A few recommendations by warriorpostman · · Score: 2

    I noticed a lot of people put The Code Book by Simon Singh in this thread, which I think is a good recommendation.

    I'd also suggest Chaos: The New Science by James Gleick. Has plenty of good geeky computer stuff and is also accessible to the layman.

    And, I think David Foster Wallace's essay collection, A Supposedly Fun Thing I'll Never Do Again is the epitome of summer reading. The title essay is about his observations on a luxury cruise..and it's not literary bubble gum either. David Foster Wallace is practically a "geek" in his own right. His novel Infinite Jest also has some interesting popular pharmaceutical chemistry and high math content, which should be right up any geek's alley.

  61. A Very Good Far-Future Virus/Hacker Tale.. by johndiii · · Score: 2, Informative

    C. S Friedman's This Alien Shore .

    Also, I would second the Daniel Keyes Moran titles cited earlier.

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    Floating face-down in a river of regret...and thoughts of you...
  62. Re:The Bible, obviously by edmo · · Score: 2, Troll

    Ahh yes, nothing like a clasic. This is comonly considerd the best fiction of all time ;)
    seriously thow, don't mean to ofend anyone, just kidding around

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    Don't save your orgasms for Heaven; Heaven knows we need them here.
  63. My own idiosyncratic essentials by senahj · · Score: 3, Informative

    _The_Dispossessed_, Ursula K. LeGuin
    _Stand_on_Zanzibar_, John Brunner
    _Lucifer's_Hammer_, Larry Niven
    _The_Left_Hand_of_Darkness_, Ursula K. LeGuin
    _Zen_and_the_Art_of_Motorcycle_Maintenance _, Robert Pirsig
    _Gateway_, Fred Pohl
    _The_Forever_War_, Joe Haldeman
    _Slow_River_, Nicola Griffith
    _The_Sheep_Look_Up_, John Brunner
    _Lord_of_Light_, Roger Zelazny
    _The_Doomsday_Book_, Connie Willis
    _The_War_of_the_Worlds_, H.G. Wells
    _Earth_Abides_, George R. Stewart
    _A_Canticle_for_Leibowitz_, Walter Miller
    _Been_Down_So_Long_It_Look_Like_Up_To_Me_, Richard Farina
    _The_Folk_of_the_Air_, Peter S. Beagle
    _Aegypt_, John Crowley
    _The_Day_of_the_Triffids_, John Wyndham
    _Rocannon's_World_, Ursula K. Leguin
    _Planet_of_Exile_, Ursulak K. Leguin
    _Ringworld_, Larry Niven
    _The_Long_Walk_, Slavomir Rawicz
    _We_Die_Alone_, David Howarth

    all that being said, two books tower above all other summer reading :

    _Treasure_Island_, Robert Louis Stevenson
    _Huckleberry_Finn_, Mark Twain

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    Wait a minute. Didn't I say that on the other side of the record? I'd better check ...
  64. The Black Company by GuntherAEPi · · Score: 2, Informative

    I just recently finished Glen Cook's Black Company series. It's amazingly good. Dark Fantasy setting about the Black Company, a merchant band. Can't recommend enough.

  65. Good Read by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    try neal stephenson's: cryptonomicon
    good read, great plot, and the tech stuff isnt too shabby either.

    bonus treat: perl source for the cryptographic alogrithm described [and used in the story] called solitaire [the algo, courtesy of bruce schneier of counterpane and "practical cryptography" book] presented at the back of the book...

  66. I hope this is fair use: by cje · · Score: 5, Insightful
    It's (Lord of the Rings) not that it's a hard read, it's that it moves way too slowly. IIRC, there's a good page about Treebeard when we first meet him. A simple, "he looks like an aging cypress tree with a face" would work pretty well.

    In the preface to the unabridged version of "The Stand", Stephen King (truly an American icon) writes:
    As it happens, I think that in really good stories, the whole is always greater than the sum of the parts. If that were not so, the following would be a perfectly acceptable version of "Handsel and Gretel":
    Hansel and Gretel were two children with a nice father and a nice mother. The nice mother died, and the father married a bitch. The bitch wanted the kids out of the way so she'd have more money to spend on herself. She bullied her spineless, soft-headed hubby into taking Handsel and Gretel into the woods and killing them. The kids' father relented at the last moment, allowing them to live so they could starve to death in the woods instead of dying quickly and mercifully at the blade of his knife. While they were wandering around, they found a house made out of candy. It was owned by a witch who was into cannibalism. She locked them up and told them when they were good and fat, she was going to eat them. But the kids got the best of her. Hansel shoved her into her own oven. They found the witch's treasure, and they must have found a map, too, because they eventually arrived home again. When they got there, Dad gave the bitch the boot and they lived happily ever after. The End.
    I don't know what you think, but for me, that version's a loser. The story is there, but it's not elegant. It's like a Cadillac with the chrome stripped off and the paint sanded down to dull metal. It goes somewhere, but it ain't, you know, boss.
    LOTR is certainly not short on words, but taking all of the pages that describe the world of Middle-Earth and boiling them down to single Cliffs Notes-style sentences would kill the narrative. There are portions where Tolkien goes overboard (i.e., some of the details of Middle-Earth's history and the lineages of his characters) but on the whole, I thought that LOTR was pretty well-paced.

    I mean, the trilogy isn't a Michael Crichton airport reader or a Thomas Harris psycho thriller. It's an epic journey through a world of splendor and grandeur. The guy invented his own languages for Middle-Earth, dude. :-) Rushing through Tolkien's world would not have done it justice.
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    1. Re:I hope this is fair use: by James+Lewis · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That is true, but I enjoyed The Hobbit much more than I did The Lord of The Rings. Part of it was my dislike for the never changing character of Frodo, but the other part was that it bordered on tedious. While I still enjoyed it, I believe there is a happy medium that you have to reach concerning detail. Part of the elequence of good writing is describing enough of the world so that a person can visualize it well, but not so much that it becomes restrictive and boring to read. The Hobbit most certainly achieved a high level of elequence in that respect, while The Lord of The Rings did not.

    2. Re:I hope this is fair use: by cybercuzco · · Score: 2, Funny
      The Lord of the rings (abridged)
      Frodo gets a ring from his foster father Bilbo. Frodo finds out the ring is evil. Frodo and some friends go to rivendell to ask elrond what to do with the ring. Along the way they meet strider and are chased by ringwraiths. At rivendell frodo is given the quest to destroy the ring in the cracks of dom. Frodo and several companions set out to do so. Gandalf, one of the companions, is killed in the dwarven mines of moria. The remaining companions pass thorugh the forest of lorien and split up at the falls of rauros. Frodo and same go to mount doom, followed by gollum. The rest of the companions fight some orcs and two of them are abducted. Strider, an elf and a dwarf follow the kidnapped companions. They have some adventures and eventually find them with the ents in orthanc. Gandalf apperently didnt die in moria, and is actually alive. Frodo and gollum team up and eventually make it to mount doom. Strider and the rest of the companions go to the white city and have a big battle. Frodo throws the ring into mount doom and strider is made the king. Everyone then goes back home. The End


      Now you dont need to read it, cause thats the same thing, right? ;-)

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  67. Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy by KFK+-+Wildcat · · Score: 3, Informative

    When in doubt, re-read Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. You can't go wrong with that.

  68. I don't know about geeks or hacking but... by DrLudicrous · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I highly recommend the Dark Tower series, starting with The Gunslinger, by Stephen King. It kinda sorta falls into the class of sci-fi, but it is also a fantasy type of book. So maybe not your exact genre, but if you like that type of book you would probably like this one.

  69. Non Fiction? by Dolly_Llama · · Score: 4, Informative

    In my pleasure reading, I try to vary between fiction and non-fiction. Right now I'm reading The Seekers by Daniel Boorstin. I highly recommend it as well as The Discoverers by the same author. These books are narrative historical surveys of search for meaning in the former, and science and technology in the latter. A little non-fiction does the mind great. I can't tell you how many jeopardy answers I get because of this non-fiction reading or that.

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    Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. -- Carl Sagan

  70. Stuff I wish I had read & some I have by yet+another+coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I find my ignorance slapping me around too often. I wish I had a better background in literature so I could understand Western culture, the one I live in. More accurately, I'd just like to catch the gist; I know the culture is beyond anyone. I'd like to know more about the rest of the world's cultures, too.

    Don Quixote by Cervantes
    The Divine Comedy by Dante
    Crime and Punishment by Dostoevsky
    War and Peace by Tolstoy
    Various Mark Twain works
    The Bible
    so much more. Curse me for my laziness.

    Stuff I have read and recommend highly...

    Kurt Vonnegut books, particulary Slaughterhouse Five It is hilarious.
    Catch-22 by Joseph Heller It, too, is hilarious and biting.
    J. D. Sallinger books and stories
    Winesburg, Ohio by Sherwood Anderson

  71. Re:I don't read much fiction but... by BerntB · · Score: 2, Interesting
    The Selfish Gene
    Hear hear!

    That book changed my world view by applying game theory to behaviour of evolved creatures. The Selfish Gene is probably the best book on popular science I've read in my life. (If you know any better books, please add them as comments!)

    Be aware that religious people (e.g. christians, marxists, etc) tend to hate the research presented by TSG. The idealists can't accept that some of people's mental characteristics are partially genetic. (Personally, I have the ambition to look at facts first and build opinions on how the world works after that. No theory that goes the other way will succeed since there are so many more ways of being totally wrong than close to correct.)

    Also, be sure to read the notes in the second edition -- they are as interesting as the book itself.

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    Karma: Excellent (My Karma? I wish...:-( )
  72. Tom Clancy later stuff is shite... by Goonie · · Score: 4, Informative

    His first few books are decent thrillers, particularly Hunt For Red October and The Sum of All Fears (and perhaps Rainbow Six), but his later Jack Ryan books become ever-lengthier hymns to conservatism in general and Ronald Reagan in particular. If his editor had some spine he or she would send his drafts back with lots of red lines through the more egregious sermonizing.

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    Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo
    --Andy Finkel (J. Klass?)
  73. Ender's Law by sakusha · · Score: 5, Funny

    I have postulated a new law, entitled "Ender's Law"

    "Every time the subject of science fiction is raised on Slashdot, Ender's Game will be mentioned in the first 10 messages."

    I think Slashcode needs an Ender filter, just like it has a First Post filter.

  74. Re:Things that I like after 40 years of reading Sc by WillAdams · · Score: 4, Informative

    Interesting list. Quite agree about Frank Herbert's _Dune_ and Roger Zelazny's _Nine Princes of Amber_ (and the series which they spawned), but not so sure on the rest---_Gateway_ didn't do much for me (though it was a good read), and other books by Ursula K. LeGuin are better (esp. _The Lathe of Heaven_).

    I haven't been reading for quite forty years... but... some books / series to add (in no particular order) which I haven't seen added elsewhere in this list:

    - _Wild Cards_ - comic books w/ almost realistic physics

    - _The Stainless Steel Rat_ by Harry Harrison - classic science fiction, and available in Esperanto!

    - Barry Hughart's ``Master Li Novels'' - _Bridge of Birds_, _The Story of the Stone_ and _Eight Skilled Gentleman_ --- read these in private if you're embarrassed by laughing out loud. Fantasies of a China which never was but should have been.

    - Roger Zelazny's _Damnation Alley_ and its sequel _Hardwired_ by Walter Jon Williams (who says ``thanks'' to RZ for ``letting me play in his alley'' in the foreword).

    - Michael Moorcock's Eternal Champion cycle, esp. the Jeremiah Cornelius books. This is where the concept of ``multiverse'' reaches its full breadth and depth.

    - Stephen Brust's ``Taltos'' books, _Jhereg_, _Yendi_, &c. (Spoiler: Interesting application of Clarke's law). There's a prequel series written in the style of Alexandre Dumas which are a lot of fun (everyone did read Dumas as a child, right? If not, go and read _The Count of Monte Cristo_ and all the other books first)

    - John Varley's Gaea trilogy - _Titan_, _Wizard_ and _Demon_

    - _The Princess Bride_ S. Morgenstern's Classic Tale of True Love and High Adventure --- the good parts version by William Goldman. Get the older edition (Ballantine Books 1973 if possible 'cause the newer editions have a bunch of typos :(

    - L.E. Modesitt, Jr. _The Forever Hero_, _Dawn for a Distant Earth_, &c. - fun to read as a pastiche of other books which doesn't require that much thought

    - Steve Perry's Matador books are a lot of fun and an interesting view of human potential (though he cops out and punts on the immortality issue when he did the Stellar Ranger books :(

    - Jack Chalker, esp. his Well of Souls books

    - C. J. Cherryh, - her Merchanter novels are classics, _Rimrunner_ is particularly good (though one pretty much needs to read _Downbelow Station_ first for the background. Her Morgaine books are also fantasy classics.

    - Fred Saberhagen - his Dracula books are way cool (haven't read his novelization of the movie though---get _The Dracula Tape_ instead), as well as _The Frankenstein Papers_. and for the sci-fi tie in, ``Berserker''

    - Jack Vance's _Dying Earth_ is a classic, and his Lyonesse trilogy should be

    - Manly Wade Wellman wrote a lot of good stuff, but there're few things as wholly American and mystical, and moving as his stories about Silver John---the short story collection _John the Balladeer_ is a good beginning.

    - Robert Heinlein 'nuff said

    - Lord Dunsany - _The Charwoman's Shadow_ is haunting, and interesting to contrast with _The Return of the King_. I'm fortunate to have a Modern Library edition of _The Book of Wonder_ from ~1908 or so which is a frequent companion when camping.

    - R. A. MacAvoy's books are quite good, and here _Tea with the Black Dragon_ even works in a couple of people who work w/ computers---way cool, though a bit dated.

    Lastly, Terri Windling at Ace Books created ``The Fairy Tale Series'' which are re-tellings of classic fairy tales by contemporary authors, all of which are quite good, especially the haunting _Briar Rose_ by Jane Yolen which I think everyone should read.

    William
    (whose resume's objective line reads, ``To make beautiful books'' ;)

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    Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
  75. Dragonlance is good too by fatwreckfan · · Score: 2, Informative

    The Dragonlance Chronicles are great too, written by Margaret Weiss and Tracy Hickman (if I recall correctly). A wonderful series, it got me started on fantasy.

    I agree that Jordan's "Wheel Of Time" is the ultimate though.

  76. Richard Feynmann? by moosesocks · · Score: 4, Informative

    I now you said that you've read all the hacker-bios, but you may want to consider the biography of Richard Feynmann - "Surly you're joking, Mr. Feynmann". He somewhat predates most hackers (and computers for that matter!), and is most famous for being the person to demonstrate the flaw which caused the Challanger to explode. Definitely an intersting read on many levels.

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    -- If you try to fail and succeed, which have you done? - Uli's moose
  77. Read John Brunner by surfcow · · Score: 2, Informative

    He originated Cyberpunk. Way ahead of the curve.

    Shockwave Rider
    Stand on Zanzibar
    The Sheep Look Up
    Jagged Orbit

    Also Islands in the Net by Bruce Sterling.

    =brian

  78. Anything by Kurt Vonnegut or Chuck Palaniuk by checkyoulater · · Score: 4, Interesting

    For the last 3 days I have been reading Breakfast of Champions. Until now, the only book I had read of his was Slaughterhouse Five. I had no idea his stuff was so great. Before that, I read Survivor by Palaniuk on a recommendation. I finished it in 2 days and then proceeded to buy and read the rest of his books within a week. Fantastic stuff, and for those not in the know he is the author of Fight Club.

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    Is that a real poncho? I mean, is that a Mexican poncho or is that a Sears poncho?
  79. Arthur C. Clarke... by Goonie · · Score: 2, Informative
    He's most famous for 2001, but his short fiction is probably better (perhaps partly because his admittedly awful characterisations don't matter so much in the form). There's a reasonably new collection out which has virtually all the short fiction he ever published. You could do a lot worse.

    Oh, and seeing we've had the Ayn Rand enthusiasts, you could try some other flavours of political philosophy. Machiavelli's The Prince, John Stuart Mill's On Liberty and Marx's Communist Manifesto are all reasonably accessible and are certainly worth a read.

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    Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo
    --Andy Finkel (J. Klass?)
  80. some excellent reads by dmd · · Score: 2, Informative

    An Anthropologist on Mars, Oliver Sacks
    The Blind Watchmaker, Richard Dawkins
    Godel, Escher, Bach, Douglas Hofstadter
    The Gold Bug Variations, Richard Powers
    Perdido Street Station, China Mieville
    The Scar, China Mieville
    Understanding Comics, Scott McCloud

    Darwin's Blade, Dan Simmons
    Enchantment, Orson Scott Card
    Guns, Germs, and Steel, Jared Diamond
    He, She, and It, Marge Piercy
    Lo's Diary, Pia Pera
    Pattern Recognition, William Gibson
    The Soul of a New Machine, Tracy Kidder

    books in my library rated 'excellent' or 'great'

  81. For the love of God, don't start the Wheel of Time by hprotagonist0 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I started reading Jordan's series in middle school, and I loved it. In fact, I would still love it if either a), it had ended 2000 pages ago, or b), the most recent books were as good as the first few.

    The series is good up until the 5th or 6th book, at which point it stalls and dies a long, slow, painful death. I recently bought the 10th book out of the same vague sense of obligation that sent me to the theater for Star Wars: Episode II, and I wouldn't want anyone else to be sucked into that vortex.

    On the other hand, if you want a good fantasy series, take a look at George R. R. Martin's "Song of Ice and Fire" (starts with _A Game of Thrones_). Another multivolume, incomplete series, but he promises only 6 books, so maybe it'll work out. I also just recently read Neil Gaiman's _Neverwhere_, a dark-comedy urban fantasy (how's that for a sub-sub-genere?), which is excellent.

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    "A witty saying proves nothing." --Voltaire
  82. The Jargon File knows by Piquan · · Score: 3, Informative

    Have you tried looking at The Jargon File's bibliography?

  83. No, he is not dead by teslatug · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Not really SciFi per se, but how about some Stephen King for a change. I love the way he describes settings. It creates a very vivid picture in your mind and you can lose yourself in the story for quite a few hours. Some of his books that I would really recommend are the Dark Tower books:

    Soon to be re-released:
    The Dark Tower: The Gunslinger
    The Dark Tower: The Drawing of the Three
    The Dark Tower: The Waste Lands
    The Dark Tower: Wizard & Glass

    Not yet released:
    The Dark Tower: Wolves of the Calla (November 2003)
    The Dark Tower: Song of Susannah (Summer 2004)
    The Dark Tower: The Dark Tower (November 2004)

  84. My fave reads in the past couple of months: by mbourgon · · Score: 2, Informative

    James Alan Gardner - Trapped
    Ken MacLeod - Cosmonaut Keep
    L.E. Modesitt Jr. - Gravity Dreams
    Vernor Vinge - Fire Upon the Deep & Deepness in the Sky

    And some music, for the sake of something different:
    Opeth - Damnation (great acoustic album with tons of Mellotron)
    Soilwork - Natural Born Chaos
    Gordian Knot - Emergent

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    "Sometimes a woman is a kind of religion, she can save your soul & set you free from all your sins" - Bad Examples
  85. That's easy... by Trillan · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The Terminal Experiment, by Robert J. Sawyer.

    It's about what happens to society when someone discovers proof of the human soul... and a whodunit involving virtual personas created as a method of simulating possible afterlifes.

    Heck, nearly any of his works would do.

  86. "House of Leaves"... by dosh8er · · Score: 2, Insightful
    ...by Mark Danielewski has been a good book thus far. (only 2/3 the way through). Not quite horror, not quite sci-fi, but a big mix of genre. Check out what people on amazon had to say about it.
    Had The Blair Witch Project been a book instead of a film, and had it been written by, say, Nabokov at his most playful, revised by Stephen King at his most cerebral, and typeset by the futurist editors of Blast at their most avant-garde, the result might have been something like House of Leaves.
    It has a surreal depth of a real story, with the phony footnotes and references. The author set the entire plot so well, I had to track down some of the places mentioned to make sure this was indeed fiction.
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  87. Wheel of Time by LauraW · · Score: 2, Informative
    I thought the first few books in this series were fairly good. Jordan is a good storyteller, though there were times when I started to wonder whether this story was really worth telling. There are also some strong female characters in the series, which is something I like.

    But, as someone else mentioned, the later books in the series have gotten very tedious. I'm sorry, but endlessly resurrecting the bad guys after the hero kills them off (trust me, it's not much of a spoiler) gets old after a while. And in the most recent book, which I made the mistake of buying in hardback, nothing happens. Well, one significant thing does, but it's on the very last #$#$% page. The rest of it is total filler that doesn't even advance any of the infinitude of subplots, much less the main plot.

    Laura

  88. Shameless Self-promotion by CleverNickName · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You asked about a "scifi-geek-hacker book".

    You may like my book, Dancing Barefoot. There's a really long story all about Star Trek (scifi) and me (geek) and Vegas (hackers, I suppose, if you count Bringing Down the House, which is a GREAT summer -- or anytime, really -- read.)

    But I won't pimp the link for BDTH, because I'm only shamelessly promoting myself. ;-)

  89. A few suggestions by El+Volio · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you haven't already read them, find something by Cory Doctorow (he's made his novel Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom freely available if you don't want to buy it, but it's worth it) or Charles Stross. Another good author more hyperpunk than cyberpunk is Eric Nylund; his two novels Signal to Noise and A Signal Shattered are great. I find picking up an anthology like The Year's Best Science Fiction helps me find authors whose work might interest me; that's how I found Charles Stross's work, at any rate. There are plenty of others out there, go digging around and you'll find tons of pointers on the Web for what to read.

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    "You can never have too many elephants on your team."

  90. My favorite reads by dchamp · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Roger Zelazny - "Lord of Light". I've seen others mention the Amber series, which I found tedious and self-indulgent on par with Hubbard, but "Lord of Light" was a great book, mixing the Hindu gods with science fiction. "Roadmarks" is pretty interesting too.

    David Brin - the "Uplift" series, starting with "Sundiver". Great stuff.

    Gregory Benford - great hard science fiction. Timescape is my favorite - you'll never think about time travel quite the same after reading this... I need to read more of his work!

    Guy Gavriel Kay - Very good Tolkien inspired fantasy. He's the writer who helped finish the Simarilion (sp?). His style and quality are on par with Tolkien, but he doesn't steal any of the Tolkien mythology, instead he created his own.

    Brian W. Aldiss - a very prolific science fiction author, and winner of many awards, but a lot of people have never heard of him. There's a book (based on a short story) called either "Hothouse" or "The Long Afternoon of the Earth" depending on where it was printed. Also, for a very tongue-in-cheek book, try "The 80 Minute Hour - A Space Opera". OK, maybe it's just wierd. But it was fun to read.

    You mention you've read "Neuromancer" by Gibson. Have you read "Count Zero Override"? Just about all of the big Gibson fans I know consider this to be his best work, and I agree.

  91. How about something USEFUL? by Jetson · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "Rich Dad, Poor Dad" would be a good starting point for someone who's fresh out of school and wondering what sort of future their diploma will bring. It might also open your eyes to the plight of the hundreds of thousands of dot-bomb paupers out there who thought a 60-hours-per-week job with a signing bonus was the epitome of success....

  92. Non-hacker/non-sci-fi summer reads by Admiral1973 · · Score: 2, Informative
    I love science fiction and technological novels by authors like Neal Stephenson and William Gibson, but the past few years I've tried to mix up my reading and expand my literary knowledge. Over the past three summers I've read:

    Portnoy's Complaint, by Philip Roth. Excellent off-the-wall psychoanalysis of growing up Jewish in New York City. It's really wild in some places, and laugh out loud funny most of the time.

    The Brothers Karamazov, by Fyodor Dostoyevsky. It's not light reading, but it's fascinating. A study of family relationships, life in tsarist Russia in the 1870s, religion, politics, everything.

    Doctor Faustus, by Thomas Mann. It's dense German prose, even after the translation to English. But I'm a musician, and this book is all about music, art, the history of Germany, and Hitler's rise to power, all wound up in the biography of a composer who sells his soul to the Devil in exchange for musical success. It's one of the five best books I've ever read.

    My big summer read for this year is Charles Dickens' Great Expectations. It's my wife's favorite novel and she identifies strongly with the lead female character. Since I've never read it, I figure it's about time I got to know something that she enjoyed so much.

    I've also spent time reading the latest Dune novels by Brian Herbert and Kevin Anderson, a few Star Wars novels, all the Harry Potter books, and I'm currently reading a history of the Pittsburgh Steelers. I think that as long as you spend your summer reading and keeping your mind in shape, it doesn't matter what you read. Just enjoy yourself.

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    Lousy minor setbacks! This world sucks! -- Homer Simpson
  93. Close To the Machine! by ellen ullman, programmer by lunachik · · Score: 2, Informative
    This is an awesome, quick read about life as a senior programming consultant in san francisco, from a very old school programmer. It's full of nerdly glee, and written in an engaging narrative style. FYI, I also have an amazon listmania called Dork Tales, but Close To The Machine is my favorite.

    I'll let the text speak for itself:

    Knowing an IBM mainframe -- knowing it as you would a person, with all its good qualities and deficiencies, knowledge gained in years of slow anxious probing -- is no use at all when you sit down for the first time in front of a UNIX machine. It is sobering to be a senior programmer and not know how to log on.

    There is only one way to deal with this humiliation: bow your head, let go of the idea that you know anything, and ask politely of this new machine, "How do you wish to be operated?" If you accept your ignorance, if you really admit to yourself that everything you know is now useless, the new machine will be good to you and tell you: here is how to operate me.

    Once it tells you, your single days are over. You are involved again. Now you can be arrogant again. Now you *must* be arrogant: you must believe you can come to know this new place as well as the old -- no, better. You must dedicate yourself to that deep slow probing, that patience and frustration, the anxious intimacy of a new technical relationship. You must give yourself over wholly to this: you must believe this is your last lover.

    I have known programmers who managed to stay with one or two operating systems their entire careers--solid married folks, if you will. But, sorry to say, our world has very little use for them. Learn it, do it, learn another: that's the best way. Don't get comfortable, don't get too attached, don't get married. Fidelity in technology is not even desirable. Loyalty to one system is career-death.

    Is it any wonder that programmers make such good social libertarians?

  94. Free Radical by Hentai69 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I would highly recommend this story by Shamus Young. Its online, free, relatively short, but its a nonstop futuristic hacking and zombie killing romp from start to finish. Did I mention it was heavily based off of System Shock 2? ;0)

  95. Hackers: Heroes of the Computer Revolution by obnoximoron · · Score: 2, Interesting

    by Steven Levy. The mother of all hacker books. Hacking used to mean 'clever means of improving electronic and computer systems'. At what point did it get perverted to mean unauthorized access to computer systems? Sigh.

    The books begins at MIT in the late 50s, with hacking at the model railroad club, and ends at MIT in the 80s with the Richard Stallman about the freedom to hack software. I found the beginning and the end of the book much more interesting than the stories in the middle set in Stanford and the Valley.

  96. Bad starters for PKD. Try these. by gad_zuki! · · Score: 3, Informative

    I would not start with the Valis trilogy (the three books mentioned above which are essentially the same story) if introducing someone ot PKD. Start with the good fiction and then work your way down to his more personal, experimental, and tougher to read books.

    Try:

    A Scanner Darkly: Still relevant (if not more so in today's surveillance culture) criticism of the war on drugs, exploration of drug culture, and paranoia/conspiracy. Great character work. *if you can only read one PKD story do this one or Man in the High Castle.

    Bladerunner (that's the title they sell it under now, I know): Okay, you've seen the movie, but the book has very little to do with the movie except with setting, a little plot, and character names. Excellent PKD exploration on human vs non-human and moral ambiguity.

    Ubik: excellent work of sci-fi. Touches heavily upon PKD's "kipple" theme.

    The Man in the High Castle: one of the first, if not the first "elsewhere" story. Superb in many ways.

    Eye in the Sky: Ubik-like mindbender.

    Solar Lottery: No one ever recommends this because its so unlike PKD (first published novel I believe) but its a great short read and you can pick up on some future themes PKD explores later on.

  97. My SF/F/H Recommended Reading List by Nova+Express · · Score: 2, Informative

    Lawrence Person's Recommended Reading List
    Novels
    Rats & Gargoyles - Mary Gentle
    The Werewolves of London - Brian Stableford
    The Exorcist - William Peter Blatty
    The Lord of the Rings - J. R. R. Tolkein
    Dune - Frank Herbert
    1984 - George Orwell
    The Chronicles of Amber (Original Five) - Roger Zelazny
    Neuromancer - William Gibson
    The Long Walk - Stephen King
    The Vampire Lestat - Anne Rice
    Salem's Lot - Stephen King
    Phases of Gravity - Dan Simmons
    The Diamond Age - Neal Stephenson
    The Book of the Long Sun - Gene Wolfe
    Blood Music - Greg Bear
    Eon - Greg Bear
    IT - Stephen King
    The Glass Hammer - K.W. Jeter
    Moving Mars - Greg Bear
    Hyperion/Fall of Hyperion - Dan Simmons
    The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A. Heinlein
    Bridge of Birds, The Story of the Stone, Eight Skilled Gentlemen - Barry Hughart
    The Time Ships - Stephen Baxter
    Weaveworld - Clive Barker
    Lucifer's Hammer - Larry Niven & Jerry Pournelle
    The Hereafter Gang - Neal Barrett Jr.
    Stand on Zanzibar - John Brunner
    Permutation City - Greg Egan
    The Light at the End - John Skipp & Craig Spector
    Crucifax Autumn - Ray Garton
    A Fire Upon the Deep - Vernor Vinge
    The Sheep Look Up - John Brunner
    The Child Garden - Geoff Ryman
    Carrion Comfort - Dan Simmons
    The Bridge - Iain Banks
    Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
    Evolution's Shore (a.k.a. Chaga) - Ian McDonald
    The Stone Canal - Ken MacLeod
    A Deepness in the Sky - Vernor Vinge
    Holy Fire - Bruce Sterling
    Geek Love - Katherine Dunn
    Terminal Cafe (a.k.a. Necroville) - Ian McDonald
    The Sparrow - Mary Doria Russell
    The Night Watch - Sean Stewart
    Nifft the Lean - Michael Shea
    Summer of Night - Dan Simmons
    Fevre Dream - George R. R. Martin
    The Magic Wagon - Joe R. Lansdale
    Mona Lisa Overdrive - William Gibson
    The Book of the New Sun - Gene Wolfe
    Perfume - Patrick Süskind
    The Difference Engine - William Gibson & Bruce Sterling
    Synners - Pat Cadigan
    The Xenogenesis Trilogy - Octavia Butler
    Lord of the Hollow Dark - Russell Kirk
    The Anubis Gates - Tim Powers
    Lord of Light - Roger Zelazny
    Last Call - Tim Powers
    Door Number Three - Patrick O'Leary
    The Paratawa Trilogy - Christopher Hinz
    Declare - Tim Powers
    Metropolitan, City on Fire - Walter Jon Williams
    The Paper Grail - James P. Blaylock
    The Foundation Trilogy - Isaac Asimov
    Firelord - Parke Godwin
    The Shaft - David J. Schow
    Empire of the East - Fred Saberhagen

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  98. Short Story Recommendations?? by cerebrum · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How about a book for short stories? Some of us don't have that much time ...

  99. Some recommendations by Sushi_K · · Score: 2, Informative

    Here are some just off the top of my head
    Stranger in a Strange Land
    Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? (book Bladerunner was based off of) by Philip K. Dick
    Beggars in Spain by Nancy Kress
    Brave New World by Aldus Huxley
    1984 by George Orwell
    I, Robot by Isaac Asimov
    All of those except for possibly Beggars in Spain should be required reading for any sci-fi/geek book lover.
    If you're willing to look beyond the geek areas my highest recommended book would be On The Road by Jack Keroac. I've read it 5 times and I'm sure I'll read it at least as many more.

  100. Getting in on this topic a little late... by jat850 · · Score: 2, Informative

    but I'd still recommend "The Dark Tower" series by Stephen King. I'm just finishing "Wizard and Glass" (book 4), and I'm already looking forward to the 5th book which comes out in November. Definitely not a "tech" series but very good nonetheless. The Dark Tower theme and some characters also pops up in other books by King, so it makes for an interesting read.

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    the blood has stopped pumping, and he's left to decay
    the me that you know is now made up of wires
  101. some of my favorites ... by monique · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The Worthing Saga by Orson Scott Card -- technically sci fi, it's really about the author's exploration of human nature: What makes us human? What makes a person great? People go on about Ender's Game, and it's pretty good, but I think the story of Jason Worthing goes much deeper.

    Trader by Charles de Lint -- A story about waking up in a stranger's body sounds a bit cheesy, but this one sucked me in with its exploration of identity and personality. The ending wasn't the predictable warm, fuzzy, everything's okay type, either.

    Cry to Heaven and Feast of All Saints by Anne Rice, both historical fiction with no vampires or magic whatsoever. She does a wonderful job of bringing these places and times to life.

    Cryptonomicon by Neal Stephenson -- just incredibly engaging. The book is huge, but it's a page-turner from start to finish. Actually, I haven't read anything by Neal Stephenson or Steven Bury (an alternate pen name) that I haven't adored.

    The Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn trilogy by Tad Williams (Dragonbone Chair, Stone of Farewell, and To Green Angel Tower). Epic, beautifully written coming of age story set within the context of a compelling war between good and evil. The characters really come alive.

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    -monique
  102. Required Slashdot reading list. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    1) Bill Gates: Portrait of Evil
    2) New Guide to learning Hindi
    3) Linus Torvalds: Savior of the Multiverse
    4) How Things Work In Soviet Russia
    5) Why employers are evil, and why I still insist of working for them
    6) The Theory of How to Date Women
    7) Physical Exercise: Tips On How To Avoid It
    8) How To Get Used To Bathing
    9) Hottest IT Jobs/Trends In India
    10) The Essential Goat.sx Reference
    11) Creating Beowulf Clusters From Anything

    1. Re:Required Slashdot reading list. by chad_r · · Score: 3, Funny

      12) ???
      13) Secrets to Maximizing your Profit

  103. Re:Jack Womack, Jeff Noon,Dick, Wilson, Brautigan by dTaylorSingletary · · Score: 2, Informative

    Must iterate in compliment to the Jack Womack. I started with Random Acts of Senseless Violence and was blown away by the slow gradual language virus development; it was as if Burroughs' word virus ideas were put into beautiful action. Elvissey, about an alternate time slippage in the 50s whereas agents from the future discover "Elvis Presley," who is actually his infantly dead twin brother. Written terribly well.

    And then there is Jeff Noon, another Brit. His world and writing has become quite good, though often he is round on the edges, but the language angles are always challenging and inventive. Vurt will soon be made into a movie, and it's about wonderful trip drugs encoded on feathers, allowing a /vurt/ual world of gaming and archetypal interference. Complicated and well-encoded. Also highly recommend Nymphomation, and Pixel Juice. The Cobralingus is great for anyone interested in systems processes on language.

    And then the usual suspect Philip K. Dick. A Scanner Darkly, Valis, The Man in the High Castle, and Confessions of a Crap Artist are tremendous, as are most of his 60s-70s work.

    Robert Anton Wilson tends to run well with a lot of geeks. The Illuminatus presents a wonderful summerful of reading, as well as following up with Scrodinger's Cat. Will make the mind melt for a good amount of time. His other books like Quantum Psychology, Prometheus Rising, and Reality Is What You Can Get Away With are also great reads.

    And then there is my favorite author, who makes summertime and anytime worth considering and thinking about, Richard Brautigan. Take a nice summer day to read In Watermelon Sugar and watch a new reality unfold before your brain and come out with a unspecific new way of thinking about things, in a way perhaps beyond what one commonly percieves as thinking.

    Great summertime music to listen to include the illustrious, instrumental Tortoise's TNT. Always sweetens the days and compliments and reading and writing and general life living.

    d. Taylor Singletary
    reality technician.

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  104. carnegie by dollargonzo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    i must say, even though some of the scenarios are interesting, the book reads a bit too much like a dale carnegie self-help book. there is no narrative whatsoever, just details of fictionalized phone calls. most importantly, the chapters are all structured identically. he details the scenario, then analyzes the con, then says how to prevent it. i think it is a good read for trusting americans, i.e. people who really do trust their neighbors. but, having come from the ussr, none of this is new. i always say NO to phone surveys and always go out of my way to be suspicious. i must admit that i have gotten caught doing things with my computer that could have been avoided, but that was mostly cause i was just curious what the obviously-a-trojan-or-a-virus download was. about the only thing i can away with was: large corporations are bad. i work in a small company and 95% of the things he describes could never happen because everybody knows everybody. most of his hacks presume there exists a person whose voice you might have never heard before or you do not know personally. otherwise, nothing terribly surprising...

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    BSD is for people who love UNIX. Linux is for those who hate Microsoft.
  105. caller id by asv108 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I realize that there is the ability to use internal phones or hack caller id systems, but most of the phone based attacks played out in the book can be avoided with callerid, which is pretty ubiquitous these days. Its not fullproof by any means, but while reading a lot of the scenarios, I kept thinking caller id...

  106. American Gods by matsh · · Score: 3, Informative

    By Neil Gaiman. I have only read 60 pages so far, but it seems to be damned good.

  107. A world of options... by dr00g911 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Well, looks like the market's cornered on the Dunes, Enders, Stephensons, Hyperions and Hitchhikers (must-reads, but also entries into *very* long series that will dominate your reading until you're done with them).

    Anything early and non-biographical by Vonnegut is a good choice. He's written about 12 autobiographies at last count, and paying to get the same stories about his life over and over again gets a bit tedious. That said, Slaughterhouse Five and Cat's Cradle just can't be beat.

    In our current socio-political situation, there's quite a few books that are more than a little relevant: 1984, Brave New World, Catch-22...

    So the books above plus Ringworld give you /. 101 summer reading, and they're all really fast reads.

    An idea: why not branch out a bit? it pays to have some knowledge of other cultures and non-tech related things. Get a little more well-rounded!

    James Clavell's Asian Saga is amazing (they were derided as mass-market page turners back in the day -- maybe correct, but the man can tell a great story). They work better if you read them in chronological order by when the story is set (ie, start with Shogun, then Tai-Pan) instead of the order they were released in. They're hella page turners, and I'd have to say that 4 of the 6 in the series were amazing... passing on Whirlwind and Gaijin wouldn't hurt you much -- if you can even find Whirlwind -- it's been out of print a long time. Added bonus: you'll be able to speak a bit of pidgin Japanese by the end of the first two.

    Considered brushing up on some Shakespeare? Most people loathe it because they're introduced in a rather hostile environment in school. Check out Macbeth or Othello. Awesome insight into human nature.

    My fiancee introduced me to Paul Auster's books. Breathtaking writing.

    Driving Mr. Albert (Michael Paternini) is a travelogue detailing a cross-country trip with Einstein's brain in his trunk. Amazing stuff that goes in the truth is stranger than fiction file.

    My personal favorite book that I've read in a year or so, I gave to my fiancee as a gift -- Balzac and the little Chinese Seamstress. It's set during the chinese cultural revolution and is a modern-day fable. Simple, sweet, and a hell of a punch line at the end ;-) I actually forced myself to read it in small chunks instead of in one sitting because I enjoyed it so much and didn't want it to end.

    If none of these float your boat, get your hands on a banned book list.

    I'm not saying that everything on it is worth reading - but words put together in such a fashion that they can create public outcry deserve a look, at least while our first amendment is still in effect.

  108. Cryptonomicon, Earth, A Deepness in the Sky, HHGTG by wadiwood · · Score: 3, Informative

    If you liked snowcrash and you like maths and computers you have to read Cryptonomicon (Neal Stephenson). It even has some dodgy perl script in it although corrections have been posted at Neal's web site.

    Otherwise there a whole CD or more worth of free sci fi, so you can get a taste of what authors you like here

    http://www.baen.com/library/

    I really like Lois McMaster Bujold - her "Vorkorsican" novels start with "Cordelia's Honor" which is really two novels published together ("Shards of Honor" and "Barrayar"). Epic like Starwars with much more attention to detail (are you ever annoyed when a novel fails to complete an idea, and leaves some character hanging, or contradicts its universe rules in every new release?).

    And I like David Weber - "On basilisk Station" and I just finished CS Friedman "The alien shore" which I liked. Most of these involve space travel. "The alien shore" involved spaceships and social structures and computer gadgets.

    David Weber was very military, as is Lois McMaster Bujold, and I don't like strict hierachies but I like these books. I like Elizabeth Moon's "Hunting Party", about Heris Serrano, again in a very hierachical society. I guess I like the breaking the rules bit that most of these use to create the drama.

    David Brin - "Earth" is an epic plot weaver, the ultimate internet, combined with some interesting physics, maths and enviromental outcomes. I needed 6 bookmarks to read that one.

    I hated Robert Jordan Wheel of time series because he never finishes, there are dangling ideas everywhere and it looks like every book just spawns more threads without completion. Very frustrating. I also disliked CJ Cherryh "The Chronicles of Morgaine" because it was a little bit Arthurian legend (I am sick to death of Arthur), but if you want to know where the "Stargates" come from, then it is interesting.

    "A deepness in the sky" by Vernor Vinge is another great epic. It is sort of a prequel to A fire upon the deep (1993), and covers 1000's of years of time, space travel, aliens and humans, traders and religious fundamentalist dictatorships. And interestingly explores the consequences of dependence on computer systems and human augmentation with biotech.

    I also like Julian May, Golden Torc series; Anne Macaffery, Mercedes Lackey (although they're a little girly-princess). Terry Goodkind is good but a little too much s&m for me. And for good detective crime fighting, I like Dick Francis, so far as I know he wrote only one computer related story "Twice Shy" and it is quite historical now ie it used cassette tapes to load the programs.

    For cultural completeness, if you haven't already read these, you must read Tolkein ("Hobbit", "Lord of the Rings" etc), and Douglas Adams "Hitchikers guide to the galaxy" series.

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  109. Re:For the love of God, don't start the Wheel of T by Moofie · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Oooh! Oooh! Yeah! how did I forget Gaiman?

    Everything that's come out of Neil Gaiman's pen is freakin' awesome. I haven't read all of Sandman, but his novels are really imaginative and evocative. I loved his children's book, Coraline.

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    Why yes, I AM a rocket scientist!
  110. my recent reading by danny · · Score: 2, Informative
    Well, I can recommend The Faculty of Useless Knowledge and Forbidding Wrong in Islam . You might want to browse through my 700 other book reviews.

    Danny.

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    I have written over 900 book reviews
  111. Greg Egan and Iain M Banks by tero · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Greg Egan is probably the leading man of hard-scifi at the moment. Pick just about any of his books. My personal Favorites are Permutation City or Diaspora. Egan has lots of stuff online, on his homepage so be sure to head over and check it out.

    Iain M Banks is probably not counted as hard-scifi author but his books are thought-provoking and entertaining as hell (I even recommend you to take a look at his non-scifi books, published under the name Iain Banks, some real gems there too). Try The Player of the Games, Use of Weapons or State of the Art which is a excellent collection of short stories. Cheers, Tero

  112. Hello? Zelazny!! by shadoi · · Score: 2, Informative

    I can't believe nobody mentioned Zelazny (at least in the 5mods), which is all I read on this sites' comments.. heh

    The guy didn't win multiple nebula and hugo awards for nothing. He has some of the most original and interesting ideas that I've read and my god can the guy suck you in quickly.

    So for his sci-fi stuff read "The isle of the dead", "To die in Italbar", "Damnation alley" -- also a movie made in the 70's. His Amber series is pretty famous and extremely excellent in my opinion, it's kind of a blend of sci-fi & fantasy, a bit heavier on the fantasy.

    Anyway, if you like Gibson you'll love Zelazny.

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  113. Cryptonomicon's characters by billstewart · · Score: 4, Interesting
    OK, so many of them matched the idiosyncracies of his geek friends, but some of them were *my* geek friends as well (though I haven't actually met Neal) so figuring out who was who and who was a composite and who was just a local archetype was part of the fun. For instance, all the "Enhancing Shareholder Value" bit is pure Menlo Park archetypal, and the litcrit girlfriend doing the "War as Text" conference and her snobbish leftie friends are also (or at least they're engineering-types' stereotyped perceptions of those people), though perhaps they were also influenced by specific individuals. On the other hand, the Secret Admirers were rather directly the Cypherpunks, and the little company in Los Altos was quite specific.

    Also, reading it now is an opportunity to be nostalgic about that Internet Boom Thing that was so many quarters ago....

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    Bill Stewart
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  114. Connie Willis by Vegigami · · Score: 3, Informative

    "A Fire Upon the Deep" is one of my favorite books but there's a reason it shared the Hugo Award with Connie Willis' "Doomsday Book". You might want to check out her writings too.

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    I can tell you the meaning of life,
    but you have to promise not to laugh.
  115. Reach out a little by the+right+sock · · Score: 2, Informative


    While sci-fi, fantasy, tech books, etc... are fun to read, it's important to read about other things as well. You may spark interest in things that might never have crossed your path, or gain insight into your life and the world you live in. there's alot to gain from a book - more than what's on the page. The following books cover a breadth of subjects: music, art, philosophy, the mind, mathematics, society, history - not as individual topics, but instead linked together in ways that aren't very obvious. That alone would make you think some more, and the more fuel you have for that, the better off you'll be.
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    Gödel, Escher, Bach (Douglas R. Hofstadtler)
    Take multi-level music (bach), recursive art (escher), and incomplete systems (gödel), string it together along the lines of reasoning, logic, computer science, and a good story and you'll eventually end up talking about Artificial Intelligence. Not a 'light' read, but challenging and satisfying in all it covers.

    Gravity's Rainbow (Thomas Pynchon)
    I just like this book a lot. There's quite a few different themes running independantly, touching every now and then, eventually converging. The most top-level theme is the search for an officer who is distantly related (in every sense of the word) to the German V2 rocket bomb. it's funny and has a lot going on in it. Pynchon's writing takes a bit to get used to, but it's worth the effort.

    The Mind Within the Net (Manfriend Spitzer)
    An intro to neural networks and how they are used to test theories on the biological functions of the brain.

    Synaptic Self (Joseph LeDoux)
    This book begins with the brain's biochem/electric functions. As it progresses, you'll find it parallels Spitzer's book from a biological perspective - alot of the technical aspects presented by Spitzer (i.e. modules, networks, systems) are realized in terms of physical biology.

    The Metaphysical Club (Louis Menand)
    Basically a history of the most prominent ideals in our society. It's interesting reading, and, considering most of the players date to the Civil War, surprisingly relevant in today's society.

    Catch-22 (Joseph Heller)
    This is a fun book to read, good story. There's also quite a bit going on, but i've only read it once so i can't really give a revealing opinion of it.

  116. Re:Dune (what about Miles Teg?) by bmac · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't agree with "dry and uninteresting", but Miles Teg getting his in book 5 (Heretics of Dune, I believe) is one of my all-time favorite sections in any book. As well, the book is as much about the fact that the development of the humans centers upon *awareness* is in itself worth the wordage, IMO.

    Peace & Blessings,
    bmac

  117. Pratchett's Discworld by billstewart · · Score: 2, Informative
    Oh, even if you *loathe* fantasy, the Discworld books are a scream. (Actually, liking fantasy does help, because so much of it is takeoffs on the whole fantasy genre.) Terry keeps on cranking out more of them, and while some are better than others, they're all worth reading.

    ...


    We're 106 leagues from Ankh-Morpork....

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    Bill Stewart
    New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
  118. David Brin or Philip K. Dick by DNAgent · · Score: 2, Informative

    I've become a big fan of David Brin fairly recently. For a standalone book, I'd recommend "Earth" which has some pretty interesting insights into ecology, privacy and the impact of technology on human culture.

    If you're willing to risk getting sucked into a big series, then I'd start out the "Uplift" series of books with "Sundiver". It also works well on its own, but you'll probably be compelled to read the rest if you like it.

    Someone whose speculations head off in entirely different realms is my personal favorite: Philip K. Dick. A lot of his stuff kind of requires that you have a basic understanding of how his writing operates but some that are accessable to a first-timer, assuming you are one, include "Time Out of Joint", "Ubik", and "A Scanner Darkly". Set and written in the 50's, 60's, and 70's respectively, each provides a good insight into his style as it evolved. An added bonus of TOOJ is that it is the book that exposes "The Truman Show" as the blatant second-rate rip-off that it is, not that I'm holding a grudge over it. ;)

    I don't recommend "Valis" for a beginner as it really requires too much background knowledge of Dick's life to make a lot of sense out of it. But if you're willing to be confused, it's a book that can be plumbed over and over again for insight.

  119. GRRMartin by billstewart · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yup, definitely grittier. My basic summary of it is "lots of swords, not much sorcery", and in the (third?) book he credits so-and-so "who made me put in the dragons" which are involved with most of the sorcery side (and really end up more as an excuse to have a couple of characters who hang around locations and cultures that are different from most of the book, which is good for balance and variety.

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    Bill Stewart
    New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
  120. LuCkY WaNdEr BoY by mistersupercat · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's a new one, and it's not exactly SF -- but it's not exactly not SF either -- but Lucky Wander Boy by D.B. Weiss really did it for me. It's about a guy's quest for this surreal, rare, and possibly supernatural videogame called Lucky Wander Boy. Funnier than hell, and well worth checking out.

  121. What?? by NamShubCMX · · Score: 5, Insightful
    What???

    No one suggested Hitchikers guide to the galaxy (a trilogy iun 5 parts) yet!!??

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    We've always been at war with Eurasia.
    1. Re:What?? by Findel · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, you see. Most true Geeks have read this by the time they are off their mums milk, and dont need to be told about it when they are old enought to leave school! duh.

      Just kidding. I recomend this book too, but if you havn't already read it, I will be very supprised.

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      "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by."
  122. Gibson on the Web by the+end+of+britain · · Score: 2, Informative

    I liked Pattern Recognition, and found out a week ago that William Gibson has a web site; there's a (good) blog and a discussion list. http://www.williamgibsonbooks.com/index.asp

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    "Oh, the tragedy of math gone wrong. I can't even talk about it." -Wil Wheaton http://www.wilwheaton.net
  123. About A New Kind of Science by rickwood · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I bought A New Kind of Science when it first came out, thinking that Wolfram is a genius and he must have come up with something really great to put out such a honkin' big book. I must admit that I never actually read it though. My reasons were two-fold.

    First, the parts of the book that I flipped through when I first opened the package and took it out were either A) So self-congratulatory of Wolfram's "discoveries" so as to be annoying or B) Details of simple experiments with Cellular Automata conducted in Mathematica. You might have seen Commodore BASIC source code for similar experiments in Compute! magazine in 1982. Okay, maybe not, but you get my point. Even with those points against it, Wolfram appeared to make some interesting conclusions, so I decided to attempt it.

    Which brings me to point the second: When I sat down and started to read the book, the lengthy copyright notice caught my eye. Lucky for me it did. Rather than go off on a rant, I'll let the copyright statement speak for itself:

    Copyright 2002 by Stephen Wolfram, LLC

    All rights reserved. Except as provided below, no part of this book, whether in physical, electronic or other form, may be copied, reproduced, distributed, transmitted, publicly performed or displayed without the prior written consent of the copyright holder. Nor may derivative works such as translations be produced. Visit www.wolframscience.com/nks/permissions for further information.

    The author, copyright holder and publisher wish to encourage further development of the science in this book, while maintaining its intellectual integrity and preserving the value of their substantial creative and financial investments through the maintenance of appropriate legal and other rights.

    Discoveries and ideas introduced in the this book, whether presented at length or not, and the legal rights and goodwill associated with them, represent valuable property of Stephen Wolfram, LLC, and when they or work based on them is described or presented, whether for scholarly purposes or otherwise, appropriate attribution should be given. For purposes of scholarly citation this book is a primary source and should be cited accordingly.

    Individual verbatim quotations of up to twenty lines of plain text may be made for scholarly purposes if this book is clearly identified and cited as the source. Visit www.wolframscience.com/nks/reprints for information on classroom reprints and copying arrangements.

    [Two sections concerning illustrations and Mathematica source code use restrictions, reading much the same as the rest of the copyright statement, which I skip for brevity's sake]

    Certain material in this book may be proprietary, and may for example be or become the subject of US or foreign patents, pending or issued. Inclusion in this book shall not be construed as implying any license of any sort. Visit www.wolframscience.com/nks/licensing for licensing information.

    [There's a little more but I've made my point]


    I read no further than the end of the copyright statement and haven't opened the book since except for the purpose of this post.

    Perhaps people might think it unreasonable, but I have to take issue with a book claiming to deliver A New Kind of Science in which all the science appears to be held under lock and key. Where the hell would we be if Newton, et al. patented calculus, or Knuth patented algorithmic analysis?

    So all I can offer is my completely uninformed opinion based solely on my layman's interpetation of the copyright statement: Stop before you infect your mind with Wolfram's IP.
  124. Try "hard SF" rather than hacker SF by James+Youngman · · Score: 2, Informative
    I'm talking about anything by Arthur Clarke, Stanislaw Lem (his book The Cyberiad is pretty hackish in nature and very good). Also David Brin (e.g. Sundiver)

    Less "hard" SF to consider - The Stars My Destination, by Alfred Bester, Nova by Samuel R. Delany. Maybe even Peter F. Hamilton (start with The Reality Dysfunction), if you liked Stephenson.

  125. Snot by ishmaelflood · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It may not, in your opinion, be as good as his other books, but it is the only one of his I've read, so far.

    I am looking forward to reading his other books.

    Things I liked about it

    1) Intelligent. Not scared of hard things

    2) Funny sense of humour. eg the breakfast cereal thing

    3) Way out there storyline, combined with nitty gritty details (similar to Miss Schmilla's Feeling for Snow)

    4) nerdiness. The nerd-as-protagonist (if not hero) appeals to my inner nerd.

    Still 'non degustebum' and all that...

  126. Books to mess with your mind by MickeyJ · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm surprised no-one's mentioned this yet, but there's an excellent node at Everything2 with books liable to give you a mind-job:

    http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=101618 4

    It's got Iain Banks, Henlein, Stephen King, and loads of good authors.

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    MikeJ
    Mikesroom.org
  127. Godel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid by Duchamp · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Godel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid by Douglas Hofstadter will blow your mind.

  128. confederacy of dunces by andy666 · · Score: 3, Informative

    by john kennedy otoole.

    this is the funniest book i ever read. otoole wrote it, didn't publish it, then commited suicide. his mom found it and brought it to a publisher, and it won a pulitzer.

  129. Re:Jack Womack, Jeff Noon,Dick, Wilson, Brautigan by Dr.+Smeegee · · Score: 2, Informative
    Another dandy in this vein would be Kurt Vonneguts Sirens of Titan. And of course who could go wrong with a salting of Robert A. Heinlein? Try a short story collection first, then maybe The Moon is a Harsh Mistress (which contains some food for thought in light of our country's new preoccupation with "liberating" other nations). Any Stanislaw Lem. Ooh and I have yet to run onto a Bruce Sterling book that does not scrape the mucous off my brain - especially the Scizmatrix stories.

    Damn! I wish it was saturday!

  130. Re:For the love of God, don't start the Wheel of T by zaphod110676 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is my take on Jordan as well. The WoT got stale. I put it down in the middle of book 7 and haven't picked it up since. Every now and again I feel the urge to pickup where I left off but then I slap myself not wanting to commit to a series that looks as if it will go on for most of the rest of my life and never actually get anywhere. Describing it as a vortex that is difficult to escape is accuarate in my view

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    To Do: 1. Take over world 2. Pick up Milk and Bread on the way home
  131. The Forever War by Joe Haldeman by nsteussy · · Score: 2, Informative

    Excellent sci-fi. You will enjoy it.

  132. Anything by Hofstadter by gosand · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Anything by Douglas R. Hofstadter.

    Godel Escher Bach, The Mind's I, Fluid Concepts and Creating Analogies, or if you are adventurous and don't mind getting headaches from thinking about things, Metamagical Themas.

    All his books from Amazon , but I would go to best book buys to find the best prices on them.

    My wife has read Le Ton Beau De Marot, and she loved it. She has her masters in French Linguistics, and found this book in the bookstore at the same time that I found Metamagical Themas. We were kind of surprised when we went to check out and found that we had found books by the same author in different sections of the bookstore. Hofstadter is a very smart and interesting guy, and writes some awesome stuff. I think that GEB is a must read.

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    My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.

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  134. Re:Try Stanislaw Lem! by wagemonkey · · Score: 2, Funny
    Yea! That was one of the first Lem stories I read when I was 12 (which was a long looooong time ago...). I've read everything he wrote since then...

    My favourite was his "Shopping List 4th April 1980" :-)

    I recommend "Tales of Pirx The Pilot" - at least I think that's the title.

  135. Hail Eris! by mazarin5 · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you liked Gibson, then you would love:
    The Illuminatus! Trilogy
    by Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson

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    Fnord.
  136. Michael Lewis - Moneyball by Maple+Leafs · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'd suggest Moneyball by Michael Lewis, a book that follows Oakland A's GM Billy Beane through the 2002 season.

    Yes, I know, the idea of reading a book about sports is probably not appealing to most slashdotters. But this one may be different. Essentially the book describes how Beane and his staff of math geeks and computer nerds have been able to succeed on a low budget by employing some radical ideas about player talent evaluation.

    If you've ever wanted to see a real-life case study of the smart kids beating the jocks at their own game, this is it.

  137. Great Resource by goodviking · · Score: 2, Informative
    The best resource I've found for finding out about new Fantasy/SF books is THE INTERNET TOP 100 SF/FANTASY LIST.

  138. Good Math Reads (not an oxymoron) by andrewdm · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you're interested in hacking, I think you might find some books on math interesting. There has been a slew of books lately that have done an excellent job of making seemingly inaccessible math issues very comprehensible to the layman. To put it in context, I have philosophy and law degrees and the last math class I took was half a year of calculus in high school a long time ago. Nonetheless, I found the following fascinating:

    The Code Book: The Science of Secrecy from Ancient Egypt to Quantum Cryptography by Simon Singh - Singh does a great job of tracing codes and codebreaking through history without getting too heavy on the math. Great for historical context.

    Fermat's Enigma: The Epic Quest to Solve the World's Greatest Mathematical Problem, also by Singh - I never knew mathematicians had such personality. Great story of centuries of failed efforts and finally personal triumph.

    History of Pi by Petr Beckman - Beckman is a bit zealous and manages to make his politics come through even in this book that does nothing more than explain how different cultures first realized the relationship between the diameter of a circle and its circumference and then how they figured out how to calculate it. Very interesting for its blend of math, history and cultural relativism.

  139. How about a little philosophy inbetween? by Qbertino · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I won't even think about mentioning my favorites, since I guess all alternative to Gibson and Stephenson have been mentioned 3 times allready.
    I recommend two rock solid classics that are considered the best in putting people to thinking (and finding answers). Aka:

    The best in philosophy:

    Arthur Schopenhauer;
    The Wisdom of Life and Counsels and Maxims
    This is, iirc, Schopenhauers last book and is generally considered one of the references in philosophy in general. Basically an extract of modern & classic philosophy since the ancient greek. Actually a must-read for every literate grown-up. Beware Schopenhauers pessimism though, that's the catch with his stuff. Very educative read though.

    Rudolf Steiner;
    The Philosophy of Freedom: The Basis for a Modern World Conception
    This one is generally rewarded as the best 'unknown' work of philosophy of our cultural epoch. Steiner is a monist, just like Schopenhauer, but he unweeds Schopenhauers general pessimism and takes on all the dualists generalisims that are used nowadays to prove that humans have no free will (and stuff like that) and does a very good job at correcting Spinoza, Schopenhauer, Hartmann, Kant and a whole league of all the rest of know philosophers.
    I personally consider this a *very* important read for anyone who likes to ponder the life and times of the human race and the human individual. So I think you could say everybody should read it. :-)
    BTW: Afaik one could say that the currently very popular Ken Wilbur is something like a 'makeshift Rudolf Steiner'. Allthough I have to admit that I haven't gotten around to reading a lot from him....

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    We suffer more in our imagination than in reality. - Seneca