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Absolute OpenBSD

porkrind writes "No Starch Press has announced its latest BSD title, Absolute OpenBSD, by Michael Lucas, scheduled to be in stores in July, 2003. Lucas is known as a FreeBSD contributor and the author of Absolute BSD. You can read all about it and pre-order now direct from No Starch Press or at Amazon."

82 comments

  1. Absolut BSD? by Bold+Marauder · · Score: 1

    The only OS which is a part of this complete martini!

    1. Re:Absolut BSD? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except martinis are made with gin, not vodka.

    2. Re:Absolut BSD? by Stonent1 · · Score: 1

      Someone already thought of this joke.

      Shouldn't that say "Country of Canada"? :)

    3. Re:Absolut BSD? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny


      Shouldn't that say "Country of Canada"? :)

      Actually it should say "University of California".

    4. Re:Absolut BSD? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      youre getting lazy

    5. Re:Absolut BSD? by usotsuki · · Score: 1

      Taking a look at it, I'd say the "artist" just blitted a word off the label and replaced it with BSD. *Almost* convincing, but I would have rewritten the text on the bottle as well.

      -uso.
      Yeah, I got a gimp. I always amp off when I run.

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  2. Drunk? by sporty · · Score: 2, Funny

    Heh, the fish on the front cover looks like it had a bit of absolute itself.

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    1. Re:Drunk? by commodoresloat · · Score: 1

      Actually the BSD mascots are more likely to turn to ports than vodkas when they tie one on.

  3. How does he do it all? by baywulf · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Lucas is known as a FreeBSD contributor and the author of Absolute BSD."

    First Star Wars and now a FreeBSB contributor! I just don't know how he manages to have the time to do it all.

    1. Re:How does he do it all? by agshekeloh · · Score: 1

      By writing every day, whether I want to or not. :-)

      You can also get a sample chapter at the book's web site, http://www.AbsoluteOpenBSD.com, and order through me directly if you like. (The actual orders are handled by No Starch Press, but I make a tiny bit more money off of them if you order through me.)

      ==ml

    2. Re:How does he do it all? by (startx) · · Score: 1

      ahhh, the URL is case sensitive, and REQUIRES the www! crimes against humanity in the name of OpenBSD? say it ain't so!

  4. Absolute BSD by scrotch · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm reading Absolute BSD now to get ready for my first FreeBSD install. I've mostly worked with Macs, with a couple of linux installations on servers. This book is great. It's well written, human and clear. It makes recompiling the kernel - which I've never considered touching - seem like a normal, no big deal thing that you just do sometimes. If this install goes well, this new book will help convince me to try OpenBSD for more secure installs.

    1. Re:Absolute BSD by teemu.s · · Score: 2, Informative


      the install will go well - freebsds setup is pretty straight forward and kernel recompiling is a quit normal task :-) - I got much help from http://www.bsdvault.net their howtos are well written and user driven.

      the cool thing about absolute bsd is, that michael wrote it as stp by step guide for setting up a server. on the other hand portions of it can (and should) be taken to drive your home workstation. it gives you the tools and the insight you need to do tasks on your own - and tells you how to behave on bsd related mailinglists (and even when you are "allowed" to post :-))

      Im really looking forward on absolut openbsd, too

  5. You sir, are obviously not a drinker by Bold+Marauder · · Score: 1

    Except martinis are made with gin, not vodka.
    Correction.

  6. About time, I say by irenetheno · · Score: 5, Informative
    This is only second book in history on OpenBSD.

    That doesn't mean that OpenBSD is bad or has a small group of supporters.. It's only one of the most secure ("out of the box" is one of the items of high importance to me) firewall operating systems in the world. It's completely Open Source and available for free download.

    The original book on OpenBSD from the year 2000 is sorely outdated since the OpenBSD project tries to release a new version every six months. This book covered lots of security/firewalling concepts and how to implement them in OpenBSD 2.5 (as well as Linux) while we are now at OpenBSD 3.3. The above-mentioned books should be able to help fill in the background details as to the "whys" more than the "hows."
    The "hows" are provided on the OpenBSD website for free:
    FAQ (installation)
    Packet Filter User's Guide (does most of the amazing firewalling that OpenBSD is famous for)
    Manual Pages

    OpenBSD is freely available for download, but if you like the project, I strongly encourage you... Buy something from them (they have a few shirts and posters): Or donate money or hardware.

    Also, I wonder if this book is in any way related to the Deadly.org plea from the community for topics that an OpenBSD book should cover.

    1. Re:About time, I say by evilviper · · Score: 1
      Also, I wonder if this book is in any way related to the Deadly.org plea from the community for topics that an OpenBSD book should cover.


      Well, it is obvious that the author reads deadly, so, at the very least, I'm sure he read that thread himself. If he was the one that submitted the comment or not... I don't think it really matters, do you?
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    2. Re:About time, I say by rulethirty · · Score: 1

      Everything irenetheno has said is very useful...
      Anyone attempting to learn BSD coming from a Linux environment will be very suprised and a little disoriented at first,
      but with ample reading and a TON of hands on they will come to appreciate it and realize just how stable and secure it is even on the lowest level.

  7. Re:You sir, are obviously not a drinker by eht · · Score: 4, Interesting

    James Bond drinks vodka martini's, the food network has a show and they were talking about how the Smirnoff distillery was backing the movies so they modified to drink to add vodka to it

    some random page about vodka martinis

  8. Re:You sir, are obviously not a drinker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Never did I say there was no such thing as a "vodka martini." I only stated that a martini -- a true martini -- is made with gin, not vodka. As another poster noted, vodka martinis were popularized by the James Bond movies. However a martini is gin, vermouth, and a garnish (usually an olive).

    this article sheds some light on the subject

    so does this one

    Finally, I quote from GrumbleMagazine.com:


    1. Don't try to be James Bond. Sean Connery is the only one in the world who can say the words "shaken, not stirred" without looking like an idiot. Watch Roger Moore try it. You'll laugh yourself silly. Just imagine what your date must think of you when you try it. Just order a Martini. If your bartender says "want that shaken?" only then may you say "that's fine." Notice that the proper answer is not "yes, please." That is because Martinis are supposed to be stirred. Shaking introduces tiny air bubbles, which can make the deliciously clear beverage cloudy for a while. But it won't taste any different; shaking does not "bruise" the gin. How can you bruise gin, anyway? It's liquor, not fruit.
    2. You've noticed I mentioned gin, but not vodka. That is because vodka Martinis are silly (yes, James Bond drank them. See #1 above). Good vodka has no flavor; its main purpose is to give screwdrivers their drive. Bad vodka has a flavor, of sorts, but why would you want to drink bad vodka? Similarly, why would you want to drink a Martini that tasted just like vermouth? If you like the taste of vermouth so much, just drink it straight. And when ordering a Martini, do yourself a favor and ask for a call brand. Well gin tastes like turpentine.
    3. Martinis come with olives (there should be three of them, but if your friendly neighborhood bartender gives you only one, don't argue; you want him or her to be your friend). If you don't want the olives, don't eat them. But don't say, "hold the olives." It makes you look like a child. Similarly, if you want a Martini with pearl onions instead of olives, ask for a Gibson. That's what it's called.
    4. Apart from Gibsons, there are exactly two other acceptable alternatives. The Cosmopolitan is a delicious, if overly trendy, drink made with vodka (acceptable in this case, but only because of all the fruit flavors), cranberry juice, lime juice and sugar. Using lemon flavored vodka works well. Do not call it a Cosmopolitan Martini, and never call it "that Martini drink with cranberry and stuff in it." The other alternative is the Manhattan. A Manhattan is made with whiskey (again, ask for a call brand) and sweet vermouth. It is Dr. Wombat's personal favorite. Especially because Dr. Wombat's fiancée enjoys its garnish, a thoroughly whiskey-soaked cherry*. Do not call it a Whiskey Martini. You'll look silly, which runs contrary to the whole purpose of having these drinks.
    5. There is no such thing as a Chocolate Martini. I don't care if your girlfriends all drink it. It doesn't exist.

  9. Re:You sir, are obviously not a drinker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Wow, the guy who wrote that bit is really a pompous asshole.

  10. one of the most secure by 1s44c · · Score: 1

    ...one of the most secure

    AFAIK it's the most secure by a long way.
    I only know two more secure OS's -

    Wang XTS ( UNIX based and impossible to get hold of ).
    Any OS without any input/output devices at all.

    1. Re:one of the most secure by aschlemm · · Score: 3, Informative

      I've been using OpenBSD for nearly a year now after switching out a 4 year old Linux system that was still using ipchains. I subscribed to the OpenBSD "misc" list just to see how people were treated. While it's true there are some people that flame a newbie I see a number of helpful posts from people on that list even for stupid things that could have been looked up in the man pages. The OpenBSD man pages are kept reasonably up to date and are quite useful if people actually take the time to read them IMHO. I must say that some people that post for help are rather lazy and don't even bother to research anything on their own. They know what command or package they're having problems with and they seem too damn lazy to read the man page or research anything first before posting for help.

      I applaud the work of Theo and others that have taken up the task of ensuring that all of the code in OpenBSD is free. Any code that has licensing issues from the original author and the auther is unwilling to change their license appears to get removed and replaced in the OpenBSD source code. I recall the author of "IPFilter" changed his license so that derivative or modified works of "IPFilter" were not allowed without the author's concent and so "IPFilter" was removed from OpenBSD and "pf" was written to replace it.

      OpenSSH and "pf" are fantastic and I've never looked back after switching my firewall over to OpenBSD.

      Tony

    2. Re:one of the most secure by anthonyrcalgary · · Score: 1

      Multics was very secure. I'm not sure how you could possibly compare the two, since they faced completely different threats in completely different worlds.

      It can't be the most secure by long way when there are other OSes that are at least comperable. Other contemporary OS's aren't all that far behind. I think use of OpenBSD is as much an indicator of commitment to security as it is tool a to aquire more security.

      Most UNIXes meant for server use (ie: Solaris, AIX, Linux) can be secured to nearly the degree that OpenBSD can be, well enough that they would be statistically indistinguishable. Of course, OpenBSD takes the paranoia to a new level, and with security as the priority it's a lot easier and less error prone.

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  11. Re:What is the point? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why bather with an idiot troll who can't even read much less spell?

  12. BIOS = Built In Operating System? by HuggyPaul · · Score: 1

    At the beginning of Chapter 6, the author refers to BIOS as the "Built In Operating System". This is the first I've heard of BIOS as defined as such; anyone else hear of this? Just curious...

    1. Re:BIOS = Built In Operating System? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmmm... it's Basic Input Output System. I hope the author doesn't really believe that computers are like consoles with "built in operating systems."

      And I was all about to pre-order the book until I saw that. I guess I'll wait for someone credible to review it. Like the guy from the RISKS mailing list maybe?

    2. Re:BIOS = Built In Operating System? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      neal stephenson referred to BIOS as "built in operating system" in his book "snow crash"

    3. Re:BIOS = Built In Operating System? by evilviper · · Score: 1

      Ahhh, the joys of computer acronyms. Tell me againg what a "port" is... ;-)

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  13. Re:Face the Facts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Chickenshit? Hell no. More like horseshit.

  14. Re:MOD PARENT UP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually, "vodka" is Russian for "little water".

  15. Australians can get it here by Zeddicus_Z · · Score: 3, Informative

    http://www.everythinglinux.com.au/item/1886411999 Note that the book is currently on back order. Originally they only ordered three... and I have two of them :)

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  16. Re:You sir, are obviously not a drinker by PapaZit · · Score: 1
    Smirnoff distillery was backing the movies so they modified to drink to add vodka to it

    Ah, that explains it. I wondered why the hell anyone would drink a vodka martini. Gin and vermouth go together nicely (esp. with the tiny bit of olive flavor). Vodka and vermouth just tastes like really crappy vodka (Gilby's, anyone?)

    I noticed one of the recent Bond movies finally stopped pretending that they were martinis. You just see Bond drinking vodka shots. Now if only he'd drink good vodka...

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  17. Re:About time, I say tsarkon reports retard alarm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You should not speak about things you don't know.

  18. Re:MOD PARENT UP by usotsuki · · Score: 1

    This is true; Riverside Webster's II backs me up.

    -uso.

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  19. Re:BSD is living by usotsuki · · Score: 1

    RTFA, this is an Anti-Troll *g*

    -uso.

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  20. Re:BSD is living by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > RTFA, this is an Anti-Troll *g*

    Thanks for your vote of support. Given that very few of the *real* trolls are marked as such, I'm starting to think that the trolls got a few mod points...

  21. Re:Absolute OpenBSD = Absolute Trash tsarkon repor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    - no smp

    Not everyone needs SMP. Most people, including you, that always bitch about SMP probably don't need it in the first place. SMP brings security issues. For a project like OpenBSD, they are not going to just jump into something like this.

    - no unique features

    Won't even bother with this. You must have been living under a rock for a last year or two.

    - idiot leader, Theo de Raadt, with a history of talking but not doing.

    Complete opposite. Look on the mailing lists if you want to see people talking without action.

    - idiot leader who makes fun of the people he takes money from then contacts the ACLU when the bitch slap him

    Incorrect, missing details. Taken out of context.

    - poor rehack of stolen FreeBSD and NetBSD ideas.

    Stolen code? From a BSD licensed system? OpenBSD is probably the only OS that cares about licesensing. They audit licenses as well as code.

    - only worthwhile part of project is OpenSSH

    Seperate project. And a good one at that.

    - barely any significant features, they "audit" code for security

    Again, get out from under your rock. If only everyone audited code.

    - bad drivers

    Bad hardware. Upgrade those Realtek nics buddy.

    - bad performance

    Prove it.

    - bad scheduler, no SMP, bad at handling massive amounts of interrupts generated by high load networking

    You have already bitched about SMP, see first comment. OpenBSD has proven to handle some pretty decent loads. If you knew what you were talking about, you would have already seen the benchmarks floating around.

    - primitive everything

    Eh?

    - NetBSD, what this was forked (stolen) from is superior in terms of portability and SMP support, as well as having ports that work.

    Get over SMP. *YOU* DON'T NEED IT. The ports work fine.

    - FreeBSD, the god of all free operating systems, is clearly superior in EVERY department. Those using OpenBSD are smelly zealots with cheesy old hardware, no life and no desire to do anything correctly.

    Shame you don't have a need for UNIX. An MP3 Samba server in your parents basement doesn't count.

    OpenBSD are doing things correctly. But of course like I've said twice before, you have no clue what they have done recently.

    If FreeBSD was "superior in EVERY department" then there wouldn't be a need for NetBSD, OpenBSD, or even Linux. Would there? Every project is doing something a little different and that is a good thing.

    You have no say.

  22. Re:Anatomy of failure: What Killed FreeBSD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    BSD UNIX is on more desktops than Linux ever will be.

    MAC OS X IS A BSD UNIX OPERATING SYSTEM

    You lost the desktop war Mr BSD is dying. Hardly dying now, hey?

    Not to mention those using Free/Net/OpenBSD desktops as well.

    Now go outside and play. Your voice should be taxed to pay for something useful in this world.

    Freespeech is abused by people like you.

  23. Re:You sir, are obviously not a drinker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Bravo!

    It won't be long after the next pretentious, wanna-be-sophisticated drinker orders a "Martini, Extra Dirty" from me, I may become a homicidal bastard bartender from hell.

    There is no such thing as a Martini with two ounces of olive brine. There is such a thing as gin shaken with ice and olive brine so as to not taste like an alcoholic beverage and give the drinker the feeling that she is part of some elite group, but in my bar, a Martini is top-shelf gin shaken with a smidge of vermouth, garnished with a queen olive. Of course, the beauty of the "Dirty Martini" is that the drinker tends to forget that she is drinking a rather potent drink, regardless of the fact that it may taste like salty asswater to anyone who has actually had a real Martini, and usually gets so wasted that she acts like an idiot.

    But, I digress.

    I keep threatening to get back to OpenBSD, after getting fairly deep into FreeBSD (my employer for my day-job is an all-FBSD shop). I almost bought the book a couple of days ago, and still may.

  24. Re: tsarkon reports exposes lies and propaganda by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    (Score:-1, Troll)

    (Score:-1, Flamebait)

    Take a hint.

    No one cares if you don't like OpenBSD. If you don't have anything useful to say on this topic, then don't. Please.

    (Just to remind you, it was a book called Abosolute OpenBSD)

    Stay on topic, or take your rants elsewhere. Heck, set up a blog or something to vent to.

  25. Re:*BSD is dying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Linux is dying

    BSD is on more desktops than Linux thanks to Apple. :)

  26. Time to switch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am not using linux because it is illegal and SCO owns it.

    I'm not paying any fucking licensing fees to SCOCKS just to run a web server on Linux. At least BSD got thier shit straight with ATT years ago.

  27. Re: tsarkon reports exposes lies and propaganda by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Feel better now?

    You must have had a lot on your chest lately.

    Based on the language used in your response to this guy, it is clear you can't be older than 13 - 18. If you are, then god only knows how you keep a job with that attitude. If you even have one that is.

    I read Slashdot to get the latest developments in the open source world and read about cool technology and enjoy reading the discussions, so:

    It's a good thing Slashdot have a system to filter the complete CRAP spewing from your mouth and others like you. You are nothing more than a common troll, and probably in the same boat as spammers: the cancer of the Internet.

    As if anyone would take someone with a filthy, childish mouth like yours seriously.

    What a life.