More on Media Consolidation/Deregulation
I'll try to accumulate some links not previously posted. William Safire comments. The Register has an editorial; see also The Guardian for more on the British perspective. Associated Press story. The Washington Post has a good and lengthy (and rare) piece. The phone companies are making a cynical political announcement that they've agreed on a standard for fiber-to-the-home; that doesn't mean they'll ever use the standard, and indeed they've already promised *not* to roll it out anytime soon. Note that the FCC is removing any requirement for the Bells to share their fiber, so if Verizon runs fiber to your house, you'll be able to get Verizon service or none at all.
They spent the money to run it. I work for a CLEC and we have our own phone switches. If VZ jacks up the prices on their circuits, it will only hurt us for a little while since we flip customers to our own network. I doubt the telecom act of 1996 was meant to create an industry that relied on cheap prices by the bells and only on reselling. If you want to be a player in telecom then you need to invest in some infrastructure.
...so if Verizon runs fiber to your house, you'll be able to get Verizon service or none at all.
Isn't that how it should be? If Verizon foots the cost of rolling out thouands and thousands of miles of fiber, shouldn't they be the only ones who can use it?
That's a bit different from phone lines which were subsidised through tax money and therefore should be open to all. If Verizon is the one paying for the fiber, then it should be theirs to use alone if they please.
Does anyone still remember when the FCC was supposed to HELP the consumer, by regulating the communications industry on our behalf?
now, the FCC serves to help monopolies, by regulating the consumer on the industries' behalf. Why is it that mechanisms to prevent consumers getting screwed always wind up being used against us?
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I don't understand how forcing a LEC to share their infrastructure promotes growth. It does the opposite.
Would you pay billions to deploy an infrastructure if you were going to be forced by the FCC to let your competition use it? Hell no.
Come on people. Forcing businesses to share what they build is only going to make them not build it in the first place. Letting them keep what they build will encourage competition and give multiple carriers a fair shot at the same market. Granted, the little guys aren't going to be in a position to deploy billions of dollars in Fiber to homes that are only willing to pay $50/mo for service (I don't see this as a winning venture no matter HOW you look at it) but that's what VC's are for I guess.
If it's a profitable venture, the money will be on the table for more than one person to go after it. If it's not profitable (once again, Fiber to the home at $50 a month? Sorry kids, this isn't magic fairy land) then nobody will touch it anyway.
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I like this. The dude knows how to separate his professional responsibilities from his personal ones. A lot... and I mean A LOT... of politicians could take a hint from him. I can't say that I support his views on a lot of things, but I think I can respect this comment, at least.
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And this is better than a public, government-run-and-regulated monopoly how exactly?
I mean, sure, I know why they exist, and why they were created. (And yes, we'd probably be worse off without them, but still, I don't think I'm the only one frustrated with their recent behavior) They were created to regulate and designate the airwaves in the public interest. Except lately they seem to have forgotten those last two words. Cable deregulation was not in the public interest (unless people are interested in paying higher prices). Massive media conglomerates are not really in the public interest.
Seems the FCC is more concerned with helping the big Telcos and special interest groups, instead of caring about what the people have to say.
But I guess that's par for the course in today's government.
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I oppose these rules. They will stifle debate, inhibit new ideas and shut out smaller businesses trying to compete.
I'm quite impressed with this statement, coming from somebody who would greatly beneficiate from such rules being passed.
We surely need this kind of thinking to be expressed a lot more in the IT business.
Imagine what would be of the software world if Bill Gates had made that statement when Microsoft first had the chance to stablish a monopoly:
"I remember where I came from, and if these practices would have been enforced by IBM, Xerox et al by the time I was nobody, I would still be nobody"
When you think of it, even $CO is what it is today because laws like these ones did not exist.
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It's amazing to me that no one has brought up the real pisser in all this. Back in the 20's when radio first started, you could apply for a license for a AM radio station and have it granted FOR FREE. These stations usually grew into media empires of their own. After 15 changes of ownership or whatever all these stations were absorbed like the Borg into the BS we have on the airwaves today. The point is: They got started for FREE! Today you cant buy a AM radio station license for less than 225K, even in the WORST area, becuase you have to transfer the licenses, they stopped giving new ones years and years ago. It's like legal machine guns, you can buy em sure enuff but becuase you can only get an existing one transferred, it costs megabucks. This is true of all broadcast media: it costs somewhere around 100K to even share ownership of some brokedick AM station in Podunk somewheres. Never mind trying to start a radio or TV station in a actual city somewhere poeple might actually listen to you. And this has happened with the *CURRENT* rules in play. This is why the internet still thrives. It's he only place left that big business cannot totally co-opt.
Even worse, CanWest is pro the current Liberal government
... Kevin Newman (and the rest of Global News) has such an anti-liberal slant it's not even funny. Have you EVER watched the segment called "The Last Word"? I would guess that the CanWest Global network is far more right-leaning than pro-liberal.
Wow. You must be watching a different Global than I watch
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"Let me also add a comment in direct response to the comments of Mr. Powell to the effect that "You don't govern just by polls and surveys." Public comment is neither a poll nor a survey, it is a vital element of democracy, required by law. And it is apparently critical as the FCC has clearly lost the understanding that their mission is to serve the American public. If the representatives of government choose to treat the voice of its citizens as unimportant, the its citizens will replace these representatives."
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Nice, for you privaledged city-slickers. Fuck the many citizens in rural areas. I suppose we should be happy we got power (only because the government forced it, 'cause no company would EVER have run power lines to rural areas if allowed to merely base such decisions on profit motive). Fiber would benefit rural and city dwellers equally. We (rural-ites) would be able to get the same high-speed telecom that city dwellers take for granted. Satellite doesn't count because it is 1) overpriced, and 2) suffers horrific latencies, and 3) it's the ONLY option vs 56k dialup.
Revamp the infrastructure with fiber and suddenly there is competition throughout the country for broadband connectivity. Hopefully, fiber would put the satellite losers out of business.
Having just one company, say Verizon, run fiber to, say, my home, and then restrict me to Verizon service or none is unacceptable. First, this makes them a monopoly that WILL (not might, WILL) overcharge and cackle about it. Second, Verizon is a huge privacy violation - selling customer information without shame or limit. They can kiss my horse's puckered a-hole.
In Bushworld, they struggle to keep church and state separate in Iraq as they increasingly merge the two in America.
It's not exactly a tax. The government has no control over how it's spent for one thing, and changing it is very hard.
Keep this in mind: For years, the UK had just three different TV companies - the largest one state-owned
The BBC is not state owned. I don't know why people think this. The government have no control over it, short of a somewhat mythical (and in the Dyke era almost certainly dead) old-boys network.
Rather, the BBC is controlled by its Director General, and there is a controlling board too. Major changes, like launching new channels, have to get the approval of the media/culture secretary iirc.
So, the state acts as a check/balance. It cannot influence journalistic integrity however.
While Powell said he values public input on the rules, it ultimately will be of little help in crafting ownership laws that stand up in court. "You don't govern just by polls and surveys," he said. "We have to exercise difficult judgments and abide by the law. If all of our rulemaking was just a case of put them out and take a referendum, things would be a lot easier." - From the Washington Post Article... Isnt that the point of a Democratic Government? We the People, For the People, By The People? Or am I on crack, and thats not the way It it supposed to work!
On a national level, yes, things were worse than now. On a local level, there were THOUSANDS of local radio station owners. What you are talking about is 3 or 4 companies that own half the radio shows in america, in addition to putting ONLY THEIR OWNED SHOWS on those stations. THAT IS NEW. That did not exist in the old days, while they may have used content that only 4 or 5 companies produced, the stations themselves were owned by thousands of different owners. For you to say that the newspapers owned the radio stations en masse is incorrect. They owned some of them, yes. That does not invalidate my point, which is most of the license holders ( provided they where in the game before 1941 ) got their licenses FOR FREE. And you cant do that now. You cant even get a LPFM license anymore.
hardly. You have a choice of genres sure, but choice in viewpoints?
One company running 1000 channels is not a choice of 1000 viewpoints, it's one viewpoint with 1000 faces.
Just for an indication of how insidious the problem is, how many stories on this have you seen in the major media outlets? Gosh, this must not be very newsworthy. Or perhaps the few companies that run the major media outlets don't think you need to hear about it very much. Odd, huh?
The AT&T breakup was wrong. It was done the wrong way. A breakup was needed. But it wasn't obvious at the time the way the breakup needed to happen. The way it should have been done, which is more clear now, is to totally separate the infrastructure from everything else. And it is still possible to do this now with the coming fiber infrastructure.
What we need is an infrastructure company that does nothing else but infrastructure. That company would own the infrastructure and the access point facility. But they would not be allowed to be in any level of business beyond that in exchange for having the infrastructure monopoly. They would not provide dialtone. They would not provide IP routing. They would also not provide point to point circuits except to common carrier businesses.
Every common carrier would pay the same price to have access to the infrastructure. There would be one price for full dark fiber. There would be another price for partial bandwidth on a multiplexed fiber. Homes should have a minimum of 7 fibers, and businesses of course would have more as needed. But 7 is enough for a massive amount of service in today's terms. One fiber can run hundreds of TV channels and gigabits of digital bandwidth.
The advantage of this split, is it separates the infrastructure monopoly from fair competitive information and communications services, allows choice, and even allows multiple concurrent services. The big money is in the information and communications services, so this will help boost the economy, too. The infrastructure company would be allowed to charge actual costs plus a reasonable profit for a stable long term return on investment.
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They are mistaken. Despite many mergers in the media industry in recent years, Americans today actually enjoy more diversity and competition in the media than at any other time in history, thanks to cable TV, Internet, the licensing of new broadcast stations and other factors.
Say what?
If it wasn't for the internet, this statement would be completely laughable. We aren't talking about the internet anyway, we are talking about RADIO. Why bring in other media forms. It is going to be 10 years before wireless internet truly makes radio obsolete, and even then... what about rural areas.
There is NOTHING on TV or the radio. NOTHING. It is a complete crapfest. The folks at the Heritage foundation are just incapable of admitting that in some cases, government regulation is good.
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Unfortunately, you are both right. So many established businesses now think they have to make a profit right now that they do all sorts of stupid/crazy/illegal stunts to show they are making that profit. Every quarter's earnings statement seems to be the most important thing in the history of the company, because they have to keep the stockholders happy with big profits. This was part of the Enron debacle, and has revealed the lengths a company will go to to show a profit. (Even while the officers are robbing it blind.)
It does seem like some of the Fortune 500 companies are going to go down in the next decade, because they think the short term is more important than the long term.
If the representatives of government choose to treat the voice of its citizens as unimportant, the its citizens will replace these representatives.
Unfortunately, Chairman Powell is not a representative of the public. He is an appointed, nepotistic bureaucrat out of our reach come election day.
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This doesn't answer the main questions posed by the proposed deregulation but here goes.
If we are to have regulation why not prohibit the company that builds fiber to the home (FTTH) from being an ISP. It would be in the fiber business, not the Internet business. Any and all comers could use the fiber for a fee. AOL, MSN, Earthlink, whomever. All would be served equally by a company that had no axe to grind. No ILECs screwing CLECs and screaming about having to share their infrastructure with competitors.
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Um while I'm not a huge supporter of the republican party, I also am not foolish enough to think that a democrat is going to be such a better thing for my interests in tech matters... I watched the Democratic debates & they were a bunch of losers who couldn't stand up for an issue one way or another...
Unfortunately though no other party or platform would ever get voted in these days... Which is kinda funny since until about the 40's it was unheard of for the USA to have only 2 parties... Often their were 5 or 6... With so much power in only 2 camps & no real differences (lets be honest they will say whatever they think will get them votes these days) between them, it's a buyers market for getting anything passed you want...
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Your assertion seems to be that lowest-common-denominator mail delivery paid for by others is something you want. Is that true? Personally, I send things via private carriers, either local bike messangers or Fedex. I've had a lot of problems with USPS mail, including a case of theft by a USPS employee. This is the sort of thing government monopolies encourage. Theft by an employee of Fedex results in a termination of that employee, and some compensation to me. Theft by an employee of a government run monopoly results in nothing for me, an expensive "investigation", and promoting the thief to a point where he can't steal anymore.
Plus, the USPS has done a great job on combating fraud.
Sorry, did you want a postal service or a law enforcement agency? There is a difference.
Environmental Protection. The phrase "The fox guarding the Henhouse" applies to any private company. And I doubt that people who want less government would want the Sierra Club providing this function.
Hm. You're halfway there. Have you looked at the behavior of, say, the EPA? You'll find the board is loaded with former executives of companies that pollute a lot. Much like how the FAA is loaded with people from airlines. The very existence of an agency that writes rules for a given function ensures that the agency in question is dominated by people who represent the regulated activity. "The fox guarding the Henhouse", indeed.
Fire and Emergency Services. I can see "Sorry, your insurance doesn't cover this type of emergency - what is your credit card number". Yes, I know some ambulances are run by private companies.
This still happens. For a long time, I lived in a very rural town in the SW US. When someone's house was on fire, the local fire department first looked up whether or not they'd made "donations" recently. If they hadn't, it took longer to find them. Same with the local hospital. If you think a monopoly run by government fixes this, you're dreaming. You don't even have to go to small towns for this - look at how government officials get preferential treatment for home monitoring, etc. in any city.
Tax Collection. Sorry, can't trust non-government entities.
And you trust the IRS?
I'm not being flip here. They are the collection agency of the government. They have a monopoly on force for collecting whatever is determined appropriate by an arcane process from you. They are judged by how well they do that.
Military Defense. Sorry, I don't like the idea of private armies. Sounds too feudal to me.
Perhaps. Current uses of military power would appear to be entirely feudal, but ignore that. The US used to imagine armies to be raised by grave threats, and dispanded thereafter. After WWII, this changed. What exactly was the reason for this? Think about it some.
I forget what 8 was for.