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IE6 SP1 Will Be Last Standalone Version

mokiejovis writes "Program manager Brian Countryman stated that "as part of the OS, IE will continue to evolve, but there will be no future standalone installations. IE6 SP1 is the final standalone installation." See the Microsoft TechNet article." Several of the people submitting this story have come up with elaborate theories about why: killing competition, etc. etc. I think the truth is just that Microsoft intends to integrate DRM very tightly with their OS and browser, and they're aren't going to try to backport that to, say, Win98, so they just aren't going to release new versions of their browser for old, DRM-less operating systems. In the future server-side browser detection may be more about detecting whether the browser supports the DRM your "web service" uses than what version of Javascript or CSS the browser supports.

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  1. Justice department by zackeller · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is it me or is this exactally the thing the DOJ had them in court for so long to prevent? And finally won?

  2. So how exactly has IE evolved in the last 5 years? by BillsPetMonkey · · Score: 5, Insightful

    IE will continue to evolve, ...

    As far as I can tell, development of IE's features was iced around 5 years ago. Compare and contrast with Opera, Mozilla, Phoenix ... etc. ...

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  3. Sweet! by macshune · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's the beginning of the end for private personal computing as we know it!

    Anyone got some champagne?

  4. Microsoft on its way out by smilinggoat · · Score: 5, Insightful


    I think that Microsoft's grand plan to move the world over to Trusted Computing will end up cornering them into a one-dimensional business plan. Anything outside that market will end up thriving. Robust alternatives like linux and Mac OS will become the dominant platform because they will not corner themselves into discreet markets, but rather, will continue to expand.

    If this is the last stand-alone version of IE they are betting that their operating system and plan is the *only* operating system and plan. If they make too many mistakes in their Trusted Computing movement they may fail entirely as a company in the near future.

  5. Microsoft cannot be punished... (sigh) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    1. Microsoft ships their browser for free with the OS, fairly tightly integrated, thus marginalizing Netscape and any other browser on Windows.
    2. Netscape et. al. convinces Gov't to sue MS for monopolistic, anticompetitive practices.
    3. MS is found guilty of monopolistic, anticompetitive practices.
    4. MS is slapped on the wrist by the Gov't and promises to play nice, ships OS update to remove the IE icon from the desktop.
    5. {six months pass}
    6. MS announces even tighter integration of IE into the OS.

    Pity they weren't broken up.

  6. Re:Thanks michael by PFAK · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Im wondering how this would be implemented. Browsers already such as Opera can fake the version that the browser is identifed as. How will DRM work in this case? Will there be an encrypted key or something else?

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  7. Because the browser is free, and the OS costs $ by Brento · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Everybody's jumping to conspiracy conclusions, but here's the simple answer: when you give away browser upgrades for free, but you charge for OS installations, and you think that the browser is becoming more important than the OS, you have to merge the two together.

    As time goes by, more and more applications become web-based. These days, consumers are more concerned about the version of their browser than the version of their operating system. When you try to hit your favorite web sites, check your web-based email, etc., it doesn't matter whether you're on Windows 98 or Windows XP: the browser version is what matters. They know they can't simply start charging for browsers, so the way to fix this issue is to only do new browsers with new operating systems, and blur the line between the browser version and the OS version.

    Bottom line, Microsoft wants to get consumers more interested in OS versions again. If consumers see a web site that says, "Sorry, you need Windows 2005 to view this site," then they have a much higher chance of opening their pocketbooks than if the web site says, "Sorry, you need IE8 to view this site."

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  8. Re:Erm... by bsharitt · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I wonder what this means for IE on the Mac?

  9. Re:Thanks michael by mt_nixnut · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Microsoft will tightly control their DRM technology, meaning that DRM-only web sites will probably be IE only, or at the very best IE plus other browsers whose licenses allow embedded proprietary code.

    This is the most disturbing part of this whole story for me. Disturbing because this fits so well with what has been MS SOP for years now. I guess now that the fear of the GOV and litigation have been removed it is time to take monopolizing to the next level.

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  10. Re:Thanks michael by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's simple, really. Remember: this isn't a newspaper. It is not a real news source. Linking to other networks and sites does not make you a legitimate news site, which is fine. The term editor is being used in an unconventional way for Slashdot, so don't hold editors to genuine editorial standards.

  11. Re:Mozilla beware!! by andy1307 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Online Banking will jump on it real fast.

    Why? Online banking works just fine today. The banks will cater to the lowest common denominator. If even 10% of their users have problems accessing their online banking accounts, the cost of customer service calls will by HUGE. Most features and services are designed to cut down on customer service calls.

  12. Re:Looking back on the Internet's development... by acidrain69 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Bottom line, if this ultimately makes the Internet a more secure place to do business, then I'm all for it. Digital signatures would be very cool once they are implemented on a global scale. No more paper filing, the trees would be happier :), and best of all, if this is implemented well, that bond of trust between businesses and consumers can be strengthened.

    Bond of trust? What fairytale world are you living in? Is copyprotection a bond of trust? How come there are all these shitty CD's being released that won't play on computers? Is that the bond of trust you are talking about? How about the news that moviegoers are going to be metal-detected when going to see Finding Nemo? Is that trust?
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  13. On the net, popularity kills by IncohereD · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The real problem you're discussing is one that has been noted many times: the internet kills anything successful.

    Basically, the promise of the net is everyone's a publisher, and can make something kewl, and show it to everyone.

    The problem is if they do a good job of it, they get popular. Bandwidth bills go up. They can no longer afford the site, because banner ads don't get you shit. Unless you're a lowest common denominator genius like stile (but there's only one stile).

    So, they either die, get bailed out by a benevolent donor, or get bought by someone who cares about all the page hits.

    So slashdot purely existing as a "great tech news site" was not a long term option. Because being great means being attracting attention, and attraction attention costs YOU money on the net, not your consumers. This inversion is not necessarily the panacea it was thought to be 10 years ago.

    Personally, I'm quite content to go on loving to hate slashdot for the forseeable future. Gives us gov't workers something to bitch about at coffee break.