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Copyright Defeats?

Uruk asks: "Over the last few years, we've seen what looks like the victory of copyright and business interest at the expense of the consumer. There's been The DMCA, the UCITA, all of the legal wranging over DeCSS, and so on. Copyright holders can even shut your website down without doing the research about whether or not it was appropriate. Johansen did seem to be acquited of some of what was brought against him as a result of the DeCSS situation, but that was in Norway. Does anyone know of any copyright or consumer victories on the net in the last few years? Something that limits the abilities of these laws, or otherwise acts in the copyright spirit of free use? My hat is off to GNU and EFF, even Project Gutenberg. What is the status of this ongoing battle? I'm looking for the sunny side to a situation that seems littered with defeat."

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  1. Dastar vs. FOX by e · · Score: 5, Informative
    Just in the past few days...

    http://www.eldred.cc/eablog/000074.html

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    1. Re:Dastar vs. FOX by e · · Score: 5, Informative

      From the first paragraph of the court ruling:

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      In 1975, Doubleday renewed the copyright on the book as the " 'proprietor of copyright in a work made for hire.' " App. to Pet for Cert. 9a. Fox, however, did not renew the copyright on the Crusade television series, which expired in 1977, leaving the television series in the public domain.
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      Here's a prime example of how the Eldred Act would in fact get works into the public domain quicker. There's clear past precedent to show that companies won't hassle with renewal of works they don't find to be attractive any longer.

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    2. Re:Dastar vs. FOX by Zarquon · · Score: 3, Informative

      Improper copyright notice or failure to renew. That's why there are a significant number of public domain films at the Internet Movie Archive.

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    3. Re:Dastar vs. FOX by smiff · · Score: 4, Informative
      I submitted this story over 24 hours ago. Slashdot still hasn't decided if they will post it.

      I don't think Fox really cared about the video. They really wanted to set a precedent to strengthen the commerce clause with respect to copyright. The Supreme Court ruled that if congress wants to expand the rights of authors, it must do so explicitly. The court can't simply take a law under the commerce clause and interpret it to grant new rights to artists.

      Dastar is not in the clear yet. The video was based on a book. Doubleday claims to hold the copyright on the book. That's up for debate. If the copyright was a work-for-hire, as the author's tax-claims would indicate, then the copyright may not have been properly renewed. The Supreme Court sent the case back to the district court to determine if the book really is under copyright, and if so, whether or not the video infringes the copyright.

      Also of interest, the EFF (along with the ALA, ACM, CCIA, and eight other organizations) filed an Amici Curiae brief in this case. They argued that this case was an attack on the court's rulings in Feist and Railway Labor.

      In Feist Publications, Inc. v. Rural Tel. Serv. Co., the court found that a "sweat of the brow" doctrine was not a sufficient basis for copyright protection. Rural Telephone Service claimed a copyright on their phone book. The court ruled that facts were not subject to copyright.

      In Railway Labor Executives' Ass'n v. Gibbons, the court ruled that Congress cannot avoid the particular requirements of one enumerated power by relying on another power; Congress cannot avoid the uniformity requirement of the Bankruptcy Clause by relying on the generality of the Commerce Clause.

      Copyright holders have countered the Feist ruling using laws for breach of contract, trespass to chattels, and the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act [1]. The EFF argues that the court's ruling in Railway Labor prevents congress from using the commerce clause to lock up public domain material. The Supreme Court did not specifically address the EFF's arguments, but if they had ruled in Fox's favor, as the lower courts did, this case would have been used as precedent to lock up public domain material based on the commerce clause.

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      [1] The EFF illustrated their argument with four court cases:

      1. ProCD uses a click-wrap license to prevent people from copying its white-page listings. This is a direct attack on the Supreme Court's ruling in Feist.
      2. eBay used a trespass to chattels claim to prevent Bidder's Edge from grabbing public domain material from eBay's website and republishing on another site. The contents in question were facts and thus not subject to copyright under Feist.
      3. Explorica used the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act to prevent EF Cultural Travel from republishing public domain material on another web site. Once again, the materials were facts and thus not copyrightable under Feist.
      4. Register.com used a browse-wrap license, trespass to chattels, and the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act to prevent Verio from acquiring facts from Register.com's WHOIS registry. Again, Feist mandated that the facts remain in the public domain.

      In all four cases, publishers were able to demand and enforce rights which congress could not constitutionally grant.

      A key argument against the DMCA is that the intellectual rights did not permit congress to pass it. In Dastar v. Fox, Fox was trying to establish a Supreme Court precedent of using the commerce clause to grant powers that the copyright clause forbids. It's good to see the Supreme Court didn't fall for it.

  2. Streamcast/Grokster by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
  3. US v. Elcomsoft by varun · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://news.com.com/2100-1023-978176.html

    I thought this was pretty big!!

    1. Re:US v. Elcomsoft by jrl87 · · Score: 3, Informative
  4. UCITA mostly stalled or stopped by pjrc · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'd hardly call the UCITA a "defeat". Yeah, it passed in a couple states where it was rushed through, but in all the others it's met stiff resistance and is stalled or dead.

    1. Re:UCITA mostly stalled or stopped by themanwhoknowsmostth · · Score: 3, Informative
      There's more information here [Infoworld] about UCITA, according to Ed Foster. In my mind, he was one of the key players to getting national exposure to the ludicrousness that is UCITA.

      Just like my garden, though, constant vigilance is required, or before we know it, the yard is full of drug dealers. (Um, was that a mixed metaphor??)

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  5. Also check out IPJustice.org by davetd02 · · Score: 5, Informative
    IPJustice is another group working for fair use and copyrights. Check them out. Founder is Robin Gross, formerly of the EFF. Their principles are:
    • We reserve the right to control our individual experience of intellectual property.
    • Creators deserve to be compensated.
    • We reserve our right to make private copies of lawfully acquired intellectual property.
    • Technology and information that enable the exercise of rights should be lawful.
    • "Copy Rights" come with "Copy Responsibilities."
  6. Dr. Bernstein's cryptography lawsuit vs US Gov. by maromig · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://www.eff.org/bernstein/

    http://cr.yp.to/export.html

    http://news.com.com/2100-1023-225508.html?legacy=c net

    In a 2-to-1 vote, a federal panel affirmed U.S. District Judge Marilyn Patel's 1997 landmark ruling in Daniel Bernstein vs. the Justice Department. That decision states that software source code is a language, and therefore the export controls violate the University of Illinois math professor's First Amendment right.
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  7. ChillingEffects.org by yerricde · · Score: 5, Informative

    Maybe if there is some way to collect an informal archive about unjustified attempts to claim enforcement of copyrights

    Would that be the Chilling Effects Clearinghouse?

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  8. Link to Dastar opinion by angle_slam · · Score: 5, Informative
    Here is the actual Supreme Court opinion on the case.

    As for how the footage came into the public domain, they never renewed the copyright, and it expired in 1977.

    No one has really explained in detail what the case was about. Fox hired Time to produce a TV series based on a book. It was originally broadcast in 1949 and the copyright expired in 1977. Fox never bothered to renew the copyright. Dastar purchased copies of the original, public domain series, edited the footage, and sold it under their own name.

    Fox complained, of course. They used the theory that, by selling the tapes and not revealing the original source of the footage, they were "reverse passing off" the footage as their own, a violation of the unfair trade practices act.

    The court did not want to use trademark law to interfere with copyright law, and found for Dastar.

  9. You are not alone - mirrored attempts from Asia by motomosa · · Score: 2, Informative

    Similar mirrored attempts are being practiced at UDN.com, one of the largest media conglomerate in Greater China region. The group recently issues a controversial licensing policy which explicitly states that any websites involved in news reproduction, abstraction, or even "copying" an exact quote of it's headline titles from UDN would have to obtain it's "u2u approval" first. The fees for "rights-managed" news are based on a specific criteria: total print run, distribution, intended use, etc. This policy applies not only to public website owners but also newsletter publishers. Another big brother at the parody play is Chinatimes.com, where I find it's user agreement is obviously an attempt to adopting identical business model. Shame that issues like these in Asia hardly ever get enough public attentiopn.

  10. You probably know about the Google censorship by Muhammar · · Score: 5, Informative

    Church of Scientology recently threatened Google in court and got a judge to issue temporary cease-and-desist order to make Google to eliminate the objectionable (=critical) sites from its search engine, because displaying materials to which COS owns copyright. Google was scared and took the links down temporarily, then restored most of them (which did not display the copyrighted secrets - just provided links to them) and as a bonus Google published a court document containing a complete list of COS-objectionable sites with their explanation.

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  11. creative commons by panck · · Score: 5, Informative
    Creative Commons This isn't a "victory" in the fight, but it is a new weapon. Be pro-active about giving people the ability (limited or not) to use and copy your copyrighted material. Check out the snifty informative video here, featuring none other than the White "No computers were used in the making of this album" Stripes.

    Also check out Lawrence Lessig's weblog for up-to-the-minute happenings in the good fight. (and for the extremely lazy, here's his RDF feed.

    And ( if that weren't links enough) you should go and sign the petition to Reclaim the Public Domain.

    yrs trly, linky karma whore

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  12. Modchipping legal Down Under by Neurotensor · · Score: 5, Informative

    You may recall that /. covered the ruling in favour of an Australian who was selling PS2 modchips. He still got caught on trademark infringement, but nevertheless modchipping a PS2 is now legal in this country.

    Some quick googling turned up this link which pretty much explains the situation.

    The DMCA can't touch us if we all live Down Under.

    For a little while. Until we join the Coalition of the Willing-To-Suppress-Basic-Freedoms.

  13. Re:Sure. As of yesterday even. by geekee · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually, the ruling against Fox encourages people NOT to release copyrighted material into the public domain. Fox did so and found out that the material could be used without even crediting them. In the future Fox will be less likely to release stuff into the public domain as a result of this ruling. Although I don't find anything wrong with the ruling, I don't see how this is a victory for anyone but those who want to take material without crediting the source.

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  14. Mildly OT - the Public Domain is Languishing by Embedded+Geek · · Score: 5, Informative
    I came across a postcard that demostrates how the public domain is languishing due to all the copyright extensions that are being legislated. Basically, there will be nearly no growth in the public domain between 1990 and 2030 due to current legislation, even though the copyrighted realm is growing exponentially. If the copyright acts of 1923 were still in effect (the first year to which the Sonny Bono act applies), the number of registered items in the public domain would grow from today's 9 million to 25 million. It's very powerful visual aid.

    And, to beat the reply posts:

    1. No, I have no idea why they put it on a postcard.
    2. Yes, I did notice the entire webiste, including the card, is "©2003 Cabinet Magazine".
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  15. Re:I like those principles, except by davetd02 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I don't think that's exactly what was meant. The idea is more along the lines of "just because I can copy it for free doesn't mean that the creator shouldn't be compensated. If somebody creates a work that adds value to society then they should be compensated.

    I actually just posted the bullet-headlines of the principles. The full second principle (available here) includes "We will compensate artists who entertain and enlighten us with their art..."

    Hopefully that helps. :) If I could just set my pet monkey loose on my computer for a few days and call that "creation" then I'd be set for money forever. Too bad value does count.

  16. Re:Mildly OT - the Public Domain is Languishing by lunchman · · Score: 2, Informative

    I found a reference to this petition on lwn.net http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi? eldred or see: http://www.eldred.cc/eablog/EldredActOnePage5.htm for the text of the Eldred Act for public domain enhancement

  17. In Belgium... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    I've heard ( but i can't find a confirmation... ) that a group used to defend consumers rights in Belgium ( Test Achats ) is about to sue some companies because they are selling copy protected CDs. It seems it will use the fair use right and the fact that the CDs can't be played with old equipment.

    Sorry for the blur but i'm not sure about these informations ( and sorry for my english too )

  18. EU Software patents (slightly OT) by infolib · · Score: 2, Informative

    The EU commission (lobbied by patent lawyers and big corps) are trying to expand patentability dramatically. Public protest has delayed the process, which is now entering the final phase, where amendments will be voted upon. Next election is june 2004
    You still have time to write your MEP!

    More information

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  19. Thge very next /. story... by drdale · · Score: 2, Informative

    is about a bunch of kids who made a shot for shot reproduction of Raiders of the Lost Ark. Maybe the fact that they haven't gotten sued yet qualifies as a small victory for the supports of the intellectual commons? (THey even got nice letters from Spielberg.)

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  20. About the DeCSS case by Kjella · · Score: 2, Informative

    here's been The DMCA, the UCITA, all of the legal wranging over DeCSS, and so on. (...) Johansen did seem to be acquited of some of what was brought against him as a result of the DeCSS situation, but that was in Norway.

    Just so that is clear, the DeCSS case is not over, the next round of trial starts in December last I read, and I'd be surprised if it doesn't get appealed to the Supreme court (unless you know, both sides may appeal in Norway).

    Personally, I think it's pathetic, both the duration of the investigation as well as the ridiculous statements made by the prosecution. Judging from the first court ruling, I'd call it being shot down in flames and die. Then again, never underestimate a Phoenix, so time will tell...

    Kjella

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  21. The real trademark law by yerricde · · Score: 2, Informative

    Copyrighted name though, can't talk about it.

    I recognize an attempt at a joke, but...

    Names cannot be copyrighted, but they can be trademarked. Use of a trademark to identify a company or a product is considered fair as long as the use cannot cause confusion between one company's products and another company's products.

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  22. My ''Embed'' program is still up by Tom7 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Well, this was probably a small-scale victory but it was significant to me. ;)

    Almost a year ago lawyers from Agfa Monotype threatened me with the DMCA about a program I wrote that changes the embedding permissions on fonts. (slashdot article) I presented my defense via e-mail, they got a lot of bad press, and eventually they gave up (?). The program is still up today. Hopefully other developers who receive cease-and-desist letters will recognize that it is not always costly to fight them...