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RealPC For Mac Delayed By MS Cease And Desist

mgh02114 writes "Microsoft recently purchased the Windows-on-a-Mac emulation program "Virtual PC" from Connectix. Since then, FWB announced that they were working to revive their competing 'Real PC' Windows emulation program for Macintosh OS X. Well, now it looks like Microsoft is trying to kill that program as well. FWB announced that: 'FWB is working diligently to update Real PC and Softwindows for OSX. In May, while working on this project, we received a setback in the form of a cease and desist letter from Microsoft. We are working to resolve the issues with Microsoft, and this has caused some delay, much to our frustration. We are committed to having a beta for you to test for us and help us optimize, this summer. We think we have only lost a few weeks of time to this issue.' FWB appreciates your continued patience and support."

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  1. What? by C0LDFusion · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Windows DOESN'T WANT MORE WINDOWS USERS? In order to run windows on a Mac, you have to buy the license to run the Windows, even with VPC-style emulation.

    This is a load of status-quo crap that Microsoft wants to cram down the throats of those of us who like the Mac platform.

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    1. Re:What? by jimbolaya · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It could be that Microsoft plans on killing VPC, and doesn't want there to be any way to run Windows on Mac. Or it could be that Microsoft wants to monopolize Windows emulation on the Mac. But this is Microsoft...surely they wouldn't try to pull either one of those, would they?

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  2. Go figure... by QuiGonJin · · Score: 3, Funny

    Well, of course Microcrap doesn't want FWB to make a Windows emulator. Why would they, M$ already makes one? We don't need TWO Winblows emulators, right? That would just be downright GREEDY.

  3. Don't Panic by jlower · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It could be something as simple as a product naming/trademark issue.

    1. Re:Don't Panic by Daleks · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It could be something as simple as a product naming/trademark issue.

      It's not. Connectix paid FWB off to stop making SoftWindows so VirtualPC would be the only game in town. When MS bought VirtualPC from Connectix, this agreement was null and void from FWB's point of view. Apparently MS differs.

      More info here.

  4. a need for speed... by dunar · · Score: 3, Interesting

    MS VPC or FWB RealPC - the choice for me would come down to speed. I've used VPC and been less than impressed with its quickness. So much so, that it would almost be faster for me to drive to the office to do the "Windows-only" tasks that I might need to do.

    Luckily my company uses Citrix, which allows me to do my Windows work from the comfort of my Mac!

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  5. Re:Implications by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Microsoft is doing one of the following:"

    Just out of curiosity, how do you know those are the only options? Why can't it be that this software trips over a patent they have or some other issue? I mean seriously, isn't it odd that they're not showing us the Cease and Desist letter? Isn't it odd that they're not explaining what the issue is? For all we know, MS just wants them to stop the shipment of the product because they're not using the (R) term properly.

    I'm not defending Microsoft here. Far from it. I'm just sick of all these paranoid theories that pop up with the most minimal of information. We already get this type of sensationalism from CNN. Do we need it on Slashdot too?

  6. This is not the whole story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    What the RealPC guy doesn't tell you is that he SOLD his business to Connectix a few years ago. This is how Connectix did the product for Mac. VitrualPC is nothing but the evolution of RealPC.
    When Connectix PURCHASED the IP from RealPC, the contract was saying that RealPC would not be able to sell anymore this product, as it was not theirs anymore. Now that MS bought Connectix's IP, VirtualPC that is, that idiot RealPC guy THOUGHT that he would be able to re-sell his own app!! What a loonie! He signed for the contract that now MS is owning.

    MS only does what they should do here, as they own that IP. RealPC seems to have its head on its a$$.

    1. Re:This is not the whole story by goombah99 · · Score: 3, Informative
      hmmm....maybe this guy is actually clever. He gets massive press coverage when ms sues and thenhe changes his name to UnrealPC or something and everyon now knows that UNrealPC is really realPC. good way to laubder brand loyalty to associate it with a new product.

      the thing is I somehow doubt your claim. as I recall softPC and virtualPC were competitors being sold at the same time for a while. They supposedly worked on differtent principles with VirtualPC running windows near native emulating the CPU while softPC focused more on emulating windows with ppc native repalcements for the API. maybe i'm wrong.

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    2. Re:This is not the whole story by bnenning · · Score: 4, Informative
      VitrualPC is nothing but the evolution of RealPC.


      I don't believe that's the case. IIRC Connectix developed VPC from scratch. For a while VPC and SoftWindows/RealPC were competitors, but VPC had better compatibility and performance, so Insignia discontinued the product and sold the rights to FWB. Someone correct me if I'm wrong...

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  7. Unlikely. by cioxx · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I call bullshit on that theory for one simple reason.

    FWB used to produce the Windows 95/98 Emulator which was called Softwindows. They changed the title of it to RealPC just to avoid extra headaches from Microsoft's legal department.

    I really hope this was on /.'s front page instead of the apple section. If this doesn't look like Microsoft-specific coercion by using their monopolistic strongarm tactics, I don't know what is.

  8. Close by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It could be that Microsoft plans on killing VPC, and doesn't want there to be any way to run Windows on Mac.

    Q: Yes, but why?
    A: Palladium.

    Microsoft is really into this whole Palladium thing. It provides a way to secure future revenue streams once Windows' competitors pass it by on the technology front. They just need to provide a 'secure platform' and convince/acquire the big media players into only allowing their IP to be available on Palladium.

    Palladium relies on trusted hardware. If you have a bunch of trusted 'hardware' out there running emulated in software it's suddenly much easier to peek at. This is bad for media sales, and Microsoft revenue.

    So, might as well cut off any such efforts before they get off the ground. Who do you think has more lawyers, FWB or Microsoft? My vocabulary word of the day today is barratry.

    From this perspective, the iTunes Music Store is the biggest poke in the eye Steve could have stuck to Bill, and puts them on the defensive like nothing else could. The iTunes Music Store is actually strategically necessary for the future viability of Mac OS X and Apple. It's real purpose is to preempt Palladium. I have to admit, that's pretty frikkin clever.

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  9. Re:Of course MS doesn't want competition. by Delphiki · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I can not see Microsoft ever seriously promoting a Windows emulator. Why not? A quality Windows emulator being on the market will lead to more Mac use. As people get accustomed to Macs they will stop feeling the need for a Windows emulator. Plain and simple, despite the fact that Windows emulators require a Windows license, Windows emulators make it easier to switch away from Microsoft.

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  10. Virtual PC is NOT virtual Windows by pauljlucas · · Score: 4, Informative

    Virtual PC software emulates commodity PC hardware. It does not emulate Windows. If you choose to use Windows under Virtual PC, you use a bona fide Microsoft Windows installer CD. Alternatively, you're free to install x86 Linux under Virtual PC as well.

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  11. Re:is there any real cause listed? by shaitand · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ok, fair enough. But can you name any time that Microsoft WASN'T guilty as charged? Even one? I mean come on, Microsoft has been involved in damn near every shady deal that has gone down since it's inception.

  12. Re:is there any real cause listed? by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 3, Funny
    can you name any time that Microsoft WASN'T guilty as charged? Even one?

    (thinking hard...)
    Well, there was that NSA backdoor thing that turned out to be nothing. Tough to think of anything else, though.

  13. Re:Why am I not surprised? by Olathe · · Score: 5, Funny

    Fuck Microsoft.

    (I love it. Two of my favorite words and I get a chance to use them!!!) :) LOL

    Microsoft is one of your favorite words ? Ack !