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Tiny Sites Aren't Small Potatoes

xtrucial writes "Jakob Nielsen of usability fame has a new article up about the perhaps-unexpected power of tiny websites: 'Considering that the Web as a whole will have about 4 trillion page views this year, the [low-traffic] sites might seem irrelevant with their pitiful millions of page views. But within their niche they dominate.'" (In particular, Nielsen is talking about weblogs.)

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  1. It's true by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Often when I use Google to search for something obscure, there's one or two people that have written something truly informative/helpful about it. More often than not, it's someone's blog.

    1. Re:It's true by Talking+Goat · · Score: 5, Informative

      I've also noticed this, and have been utilizing Daypop to get some good blog search returns. Most are small, concise, and great resources.

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  2. That is, of course by cscx · · Score: 4, Funny

    Till Slashdot links to it.

    1. Re:That is, of course by TopShelf · · Score: 2, Funny

      or mashed!

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    2. Re:That is, of course by gerardrj · · Score: 3, Informative

      No.... He means french fries.

      Since you are apparently ignorant of this, I will educate you:

      The "french" in french fry does not refer to the place of origin or the nation of France. "frenching" is a way of slicing food in to long thin strips. In the case of these potato frenches, you place them in hot oil in a procedure known as "deep fat FRYing".
      Americans, being lazy with language as they are, shortened the term "french fried potatos" to "french fries".

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  3. If by Timesprout · · Score: 2, Funny

    it was so noticable why does the world not Know ??

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  4. wow by davebarz · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Well, this is certainly a breakthrough: "Sites that are more popular get more hits, but sites that are less popular still get hits." Wow.

  5. oh great by countzer0interrupt · · Score: 5, Funny
    the [low-traffic] sites might seem irrelevant with their pitiful millions of page views
    Great. My counter's currently on 2137, and that's after a year. I'm off to hang myself.
    1. Re:oh great by jericho4.0 · · Score: 4, Funny

      lol, I just clicked on the link to your site to see that you've run out of bandwidth. Do us all a favour and report back how many hits whining on slashdot gets you!

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    2. Re:oh great by (H)elix1 · · Score: 4, Funny

      >>the [low-traffic] sites might seem irrelevant with their pitiful millions of page views

      Great. My counter's currently on 2137, and that's after a year. I'm off to hang myself.


      Well that should get some hits. What is the URL for the webcast?

    3. Re:oh great by blincoln · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You have to have a niche to play to.

      Back in the mid-90s, I had a website with a low hitcount too. It stayed low because I didn't have much that people were after. Now I run a niche site for fans of the deleted bits from the Legacy of Kain series, and I'm up to 659906 total page requests (11865510 total requests) and 73435 distinct hosts served since October.

      I don't post the link here because I don't need the excess casual traffic - I'm already close to my bandwidth limit for this month.

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    4. Re:oh great by LordNightwalker · · Score: 2, Funny

      I don't post the link here because I don't need the excess casual traffic - I'm already close to my bandwidth limit for this month.

      Umm, you might as well have posted the URL straightaway; twenty seconds in google are sufficient with the directions you've provided. Next time try to be a bit less specific; I guess lots of people here will have reacted just like I did: "hmm, let's see if I can find it anyways... Bingo!" ;)

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    5. Re:oh great by Suppafly · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Great. My counter's currently on 2137, and that's after a year. I'm off to hang myself.

      People tend to avoid free hosts like geocities because the content is generally poor, and there are usually annoying popups and ads.. get better hosting and have some content, you'll get that many hits a month.

  6. Ol' Jakob... by slappyjack · · Score: 5, Funny

    I just wanted to speak up and say:

    That guy bugs the shit out of me.

    Period.
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  7. "tiny sites"? by SHEENmaster · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The majority of blogs are on Blog sites or fourth level entries with a port number tagging along.

    The "tiny" weblog won't be prevalent for long as the larget ones get advertising and the smaller ones are drowned out by "free blog" sites.

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  8. To Mr. Nielsen by veddermatic · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The day your sites are legible at 1600x1200 I may pay attention to your "usablilty" articles. However, I faind the exceedingly long lines of text your sites produce hard to read, and so I choose to pay attention to those who practice a real, applicable sense of usablilty.

    I'm sure you have many good things to say, I just wish it didn't hurt my eyes to read it.

    OK, Mod me as offtopic / troll now. =P

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    1. Re:To Mr. Nielsen by LiamQ · · Score: 4, Funny

      If you're using a windowing system, you can almost definitely resize your browser window to fit the amount of text that you prefer. If you have a mouse, try clicking it on the left or right window border and then drag it sideways until you have the window width that you want.

    2. Re:To Mr. Nielsen by SlashdotLemming · · Score: 4, Funny

      Reduce your browser window size, or change your font size. You have full control of those (as per proper usability guidelines).

      I hereby decree that all doorknobs must be 12 feet from the floor. Bending over is hard for tall people so making the handle very high is most convenient since you have full control over wearing platform shoes (as per proper usability guidelines).

      I am pretty, Oh so pretty...

    3. Re:To Mr. Nielsen by Daetrin · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Wasn't it just a few days ago that people with high resolution screens were complaing that GameSpot or some such enforced a certain line length, thereby reducing the page to a thin column in the browser? And now you're complaining that this site _doesn't_ enforce line lenghts? Make up your minds!

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    4. Re:To Mr. Nielsen by FattMattP · · Score: 4, Insightful
      The day your sites are legible at 1600x1200 I may pay attention to your "usablilty" articles. However, I faind the exceedingly long lines of text your sites produce hard to read, and so I choose to pay attention to those who practice a real, applicable sense of usablilty.
      Your own web site isn't even legible at 1600x1200 because you're hard coding your font sizes in your style sheet rather than using a relative size like a percentage. Fixed font sizes will override what font size a user has specified as their default font size in their browsers.
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  9. Ironically enough... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I've made about four-trillion websites with about one hit each.

  10. I like by tcd004 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Justin Timberlake's blog

    And Knotmag isn't bad either.

    tcd004

  11. Popular Science's Best Weblog: by seanthenerd · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Slashdot!

    From the article:
    Call it a guilty pleasure. You're not necessarily attracted to it, but you can't resist it's charm. Constantly updated with info from dark corners of the web you wouldn't otherwise visit, Slashdot is still the most recognized and informed science-related blog on the net. Intelligent [Ha! ...just kidding!] musings ramble from general science to space to biotech. Recommended dose: twice a day.

    Three cheers for Slashdot!

    (It's on page 98 of the July edition, if you're looking for it.

    1. Re:Popular Science's Best Weblog: by seanthenerd · · Score: 2, Informative

      Whoops, sorry. They were talking about http://science.slashdot.org/. I guess it doesn't get updated quite as often. Nevertheless, go Slashdot!

      For those who don't get PopSci, *gasp*, their next four are, in order
      o scienceblog.com
      o impactlab.com
      o techdirt.com
      o mygeekdom.com, which they refer to as "Slashdot with a potty mouth."

      What about the rest of you slashdotters? What are your favourites?

  12. Blog was a possibility waiting to be implemented by Ricin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It took longer because it didn't have a win/win label at corporate places but it got there nonetheless.

    Now you can always look down at personal or hobbyists sites or blogs, but they do have the potential to capture certain events in time in a much more intense way (plus feedback) than the conventional and certainly the Big 5 media corps could ever dream of.

    It's like IM or SMS, it's a phenomenon that attracts many people and they build it while engaging, at least at the start. And any corp not smart enough to understand it or to find an obvious toll lock will either leave or loose or sue in that market.

    And you know what, if they can't turn blogging into a corporately controlled thing than its usefullness might perhaps been only understated :-)

    People will google if needed for what they want to read/see/hear.

  13. Here's why small works by FunWithHeadlines · · Score: 5, Insightful
    "Small sites speak directly to the specific needs and interests of a committed user community, and thus have much higher value per page view. A site on growing blueberries can be a must-read service for people who farm them, and thus of immense value as a place to promote blueberry-farming equipment. "

    The big boys probably cannot be bothered to put up a site on growing blueberries. Where's the profit in it? Oh sure, if one corner of one portion of one of their consumer outlets of the corporate spigot wants to do a piece on blueberries because their latest polling found a 3.4% increase in interest in a key demographic in a semi-important market for them, they will post some corporate-ugly site on blueberries.

    Meanwhile, the guy or gal who really enjoys growing blueberries will put up a site out of the love of the activity -- and it will show in the way they write about blueberries. Those who are interested will seek that site out rather than the Blueberry, Inc. (R) (all rights reserved) (copy anything from us and feel our lawyer's wrath) site. It only gets 100 or 200 hits a day? The site owner is thrilled.

    People speaking to people directly. That's the Web, that's what it's for, that's what the megacorps would love to curtail or corral. But the Web will always be about people speaking to people. In that context, small works.

    1. Re:Here's why small works by Creepy+Crawler · · Score: 2, Interesting

      >>>>The big boys probably cannot be bothered to put up a site on growing blueberries. Where's the profit in it? Oh sure, if one corner of one portion of one of their consumer outlets of the corporate spigot wants to do a piece on blueberries because their latest polling found a 3.4% increase in interest in a key demographic in a semi-important market for them, they will post some corporate-ugly site on blueberries.

      Very true. Most small sites arent as 'professional' looking, but more information can be found on them than most any corporate sites. Corporates will lie to sell their own shit, or have stockholders to cater to, while a simple site will have 1 person do the whole thing. They'll control content and most of the time, enjoy it in the process.

      >>>>>Meanwhile, the guy or gal who really enjoys growing blueberries will put up a site out of the love of the activity -- and it will show in the way they write about blueberries. Those who are interested will seek that site out rather than the Blueberry, Inc. (R) (all rights reserved) (copy anything from us and feel our lawyer's wrath) site. It only gets 100 or 200 hits a day? The site owner is thrilled.

      I've found a few of my own sites like that. remix.overclocked.org just shows that community non-profit driven website for the fun it is. And prsonally, there's a few remixers (of game music) that would be damned hard to distinguish from real (check out Russel Cox - beautiful stuff he does).

      >>>>>>People speaking to people directly. That's the Web, that's what it's for, that's what the megacorps would love to curtail or corral. But the Web will always be about people speaking to people. In that context, small works.

      Kinda funny how the net's doing a full cycle on the web. I remembered the old altavista.digital.com for what it originally was: links to sites people found interestng. Only then did it start to implement a search engine, and a rudimentary one at that. And as time went on, they thought they could make it more "corporate". By the time they turned the text-only cookie off, I was at google.

      The web was never about e-commerce, corporate web sites, or any of the filler. It was a way you could have your own piece of the way the world was. You could put out what you thought and say, and let others contact you through email. Or course then, you actually connected to their email server and use it.

      In a way, it's been changed back to the beginning.

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    2. Re:Here's why small works by BWJones · · Score: 5, Informative

      People speaking to people directly. That's the Web, that's what it's for, that's what the megacorps would love to curtail or corral. But the Web will always be about people speaking to people. In that context, small works.

      About the only interest from people interested in money is requests we have received from companies wanting us to pay them to get links. No thanks. Our small site concerns retinal anatomy and function and gets approximately 35 thousand hits/day. This is not a for profit site and all material is contributed freely for dissemination etc... Of course the site design is about ten years old and when I can spend some time I will redesign it, but it has been run for no essentially no money and is hosted on an old G3 iMac running OS X, but everywhere I have gone for vision conferences, people know about Webvision or have borrowed material from it for their presentations. It's niche specific impact has actually surprised me.

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    3. Re:Here's why small works by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Meanwhile, the guy or gal who really enjoys growing blueberries will put up a site out of the love of the activity

      Fanatics have an advantage over commercial entities in that they spend time on something that may not otherwise be profitable. It is not just being small, it is caring more about subject X than about money.

      Much of the work on open-source is driven by people who hate Microsoft more than they like money, for example. (I am not saying that hatred of MS is the only reason.)

    4. Re:Here's why small works by cenobita · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually, that's not really too accurate to say.

      I used to use IRC, AIM, etc. a lot, but then I discovered that most people pretty much suck and chatting is little more than a worthless timesink for bored people.

      I'm only somewhat joking.

      The net is a resource for information. Mind that i'm not making a specific definition of *how* we receive that information; "people speaking to people directly" is a pretty limited context when you take into account the dozens of other ways that we're able to (and do) gather and process information on the net. You can't simply reduce it to one giant fucking chatroom, because ideally, it's not, nor should it be.

  14. Size by BigDork1001 · · Score: 3, Funny
    I've been hearing it for years...

    ...size doesn't matter.

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    1. Re:Size by The+Zody · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yes but bandwith does.

  15. I don't understand. by ajuda · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The article says (yes I RTFA):
    1. Big sites have generic content
    2. Small sites have specific content
    3. Advertisers will advertise on small sites because they have "targeted viewership"
    Ok, anyone ever hear of economies of scale? Let's say I have a site that is super-duper specialized. It only has content relating to red staplers with blue logos on them. It's going to be really hard for companies like swingline to
    • Find my site
    • Negotiate a deal for ad space
    • Get the marketing department to cut me a check for 14 dollars each month
    They'll go with the big stapler fan sites and avoid all the paperwork. You know it, I know it.
    1. Re:I don't understand. by Call+Me+Black+Cloud · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's where some entrepreneur steps in and acts as an agent, aggregating like sites under one contact.

      Hi, I'm Bob from stapler-ads.com. You're interested in advertising your new blue on red line, the "Milton"? Well I happen to know of a site that specializes in that very type.

      Bob calls you and the deal is done. He takes a cut, you get some, and the Milton is a smash.

  16. Heh, well, yes. by Faust7 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But within their niche they dominate.

    That's why it's a niche, not mainstream. Macintosh, Red Meat, Amish, et cetera.

  17. Tiny sites aren't small potatoes eh ? by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Funny
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  18. Hmm.. by Loki_1929 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "But within their niche they dominate.'"

    And what niche would that be? People whose lives are so devoid of substance that they spend hours each day reading about the life of someone more concerned with documenting their life than living it?

    Weblogs... bleh.

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  19. Similary by PS-SCUD · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just as small businesses are the backbone of the U.S. economy, small websites are the backbone of the internet.

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  20. They dominate... by webword · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...and make no money. As usual, Jakob Nielsen slants the data in a way that seems so very important. But, almost no small sites make any money. Why isn't that the real story? Bah!!

    As usual, Jakob throws shit against the wall. A little sticks, but a lot of it does not stick. Why do people ignore this? For example, he predicted micropayments, which would be great for small web sites. Are micropayments viable now? No! They sucked in 2000 and they suck now. (Good idea, but, micropayments suck!)

    Last year I wrote Spanking Jakob Nielsen. I'm just so tired of how he throws around ideas and "important" data and people got nuts. Have you ever noticed that he rarely points to sites outside of useit.com and he often is selling his usability reports? Drives me insane...

    1. Re:They dominate... by Jerf · · Score: 3, Interesting

      They dominate... and make no money.... almost no small sites make any money....

      Have you ever noticed that he rarely points to sites outside of useit.com and he often is selling his usability reports?

      And you aren't the slightest bit interested in the opinions of a person who is running one of the "small sites" and is in all probability making money with it? Think he might just understand a bit?

      It sounds to me like you wouldn't be happy no matter what.

      Incidentally, figuring out the "blame" for the failure of micropayments is a non-trivial operation; the multi-year stagnation in the browser market (thanks to Netscape's effective disappearence and Microsoft's well-known tendency to not bother with its precious "innovation" unless there's competition) at the same time that the routing market has held a virtual monopoly (ensuring no protocol-level support for micropayments could make any headway), both market conditions and not truly technological conditions, probably had a lot to do with. Despite the fact I'm not holding my breath, they would still solve an awful lot of problems.

  21. Why are your font sizes so low? by Inoshiro · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Higher resolution diplays are designed so that the fonts are displayed with higher fidelity, not at smaller sizes. Stop thinking in terms of bitmap displays. I run at 1152x864 and have my min font size at 20. When at 1600x1200, I would set it to 24 or 26. The articles are very readable then.

    Or do you prefer a slim column of size 8 fonts in the left 8% of your display? I don't, which is why I enforce things like minimum font sizes, and relative font size adjustments on the web.

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  22. Haven't thought about that before. by Mmm+coffee · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When I started running I was having some serious pains. I started doing some research and decided that running barefoot might do me some good. It worked wonders and I ended up starting a blog to

    (a) Document my beginnings as a runner, going from out of shape geek to slightly in shape geek over time.
    (b) Allow other people to look at my experiences and learn from them when they start running.
    (c) Allow other people to look at my experiences and learn from them when they start running *gasp* barefoot!

    Will you find that info on about.com or running.com? Hell no, they have entire sections devoted to shoes and you rarely get to read a diary of someone who's just starting out. 95% of the info I find online is either a small site or something of the sort. Why? Because you can have all the professionally written pages on the net, but in the end the experiences of another person is always invaluable.

    BTW, if anyone's interested here's my blog.

    1. Re:Haven't thought about that before. by fiftyfly · · Score: 3, Insightful

      When I started running I was having some serious pains. I started doing some research and decided that running barefoot might do me some good. It worked wonders and I ended up starting a blog to:


      Now too bad there wasn't someway of getting masses of people to contribute their experiences in a organized, topical manner that would make it easier to index catalog. Oh, wait, thee is - it's called USENET.

      I really don't understand what a blog does, aside from look pretty, that usenet (and a search engine) can't do better. Perhaps it boils down to a more effecient, existing, infrastructure vrs complex ego stroking hit/log analysis.

      Not that I'm questioning the great value the those, such as yourself, have invested with such content creation, I just wonder why we seem to feel that 'blogs' are a bright shiny new tool ever so much better at this stuff than anything pre-exisiting.
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  23. Within their niche they dominate by rifftide · · Score: 5, Interesting
    This reminds me of Jack Welch's directive in the 1980's that every division at GE had to be #1 or #2 in its market, or risk being shutdown or sold off. What happened was predictable: GE's managers redefined their markets, so that instead of being in "home appliances" they were in a collection of smaller markets including "space-efficient microwave ovens", etc.

    So Nielson has the #1 usability site by his reckoning. But what advertisers are targeting that niche? Maybe Addison-Wesley and certain trade shows. The size of the market should be something that makes sense to advertisers, customers, and suppliers.

  24. Community Involvement by yintercept · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A great deal of the web is about community involvement. If you look at towns across the US [e.g. Missoula, Mt], you will find hundreds of stores, artists and businesses with sites. Many of these sites get only a few hundred hits per year, but a lead from a local person hitting a local site is extremely valuable, making the small site profitable.

  25. What this tells me.. by Photar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    and I suspect it tells businesses is that if I sell blueberry harvesting equipment which is unique to the field of blueberry farming, I don't need to nesecarily spend big bucks advertising on some big farming website when I can farm on a smaller cheaper more effectively.

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  26. Dominate... by djupedal · · Score: 2, Insightful

    In particular, Nielsen is talking about teenage girls!!

    After all, they're the busiest bloggers...

  27. niches? my site IS "game music" by mikey573 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Are niches really big news? My site, the Videogame Music Archive has dominated its own niche: "game music" for years. Its a nice feeling to know that your site can be found at the nexus of two words of the english language on Google. :)

    But on a more serious note, I think people need to get over the "get rich" and "fame" mentality and celebrate the topics they love.

    Signal-to-noise rawoisethasetseoahitsoth

  28. the topics they love. by djupedal · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...you mean, like bragging about their hubrustic niche language google nexus quotient?

    You know, if google goes down, all of whom you claim to be goes with it...how's that for a measure of self-worth.

  29. Sorry guys. by sinserve · · Score: 4, Funny

    > Considering that the Web as a whole will have about 4 trillion page views this year

    Most of which is caused by a single man! Nothing you couldn't do with a DSL line and
    Attention Defecit Disorder ... ooh, nice link .. *click*.

  30. New Google Service makes this no problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Google just launched AdSense on Tuesday in fact. It's exactly designed to solve the problems you mention.

    You can find Google AdSense here.

  31. Yes, the obvious is too dull of a topic!!!! by yintercept · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The article is actually about the distribution of traffic in different niches and how there is similar patterns in different niches. Although it may be tough for an individual to compete with Yahoo for the position of number 1 in the global portal market, it is still possible to make a splash in a niche market.

    Hmmm, it is even possible for people to make a decent living by figuring out the needs of these different markets and developing sites that serve the markets. Ad values in niche markets are higher than the global market. Gosh, there are places in this great big internet of ours where an individual can have an impact.

    The article suggests that both the niche and the most popular sites still have exponential growth curves--indicating that the media really isn't completely overrun by the three biggest sites as we find news articles hinting at. Instead there appears to be a layering of niche markets. This touches on important political debates about internet regulation.

    Considering that a large number of people who frequent /. are interested in traffic patterns, the growth of the Internet. There was probably a naive /. editor who thought that the article would be a good topic of conversation.

    Of course, neither the /. editor who thought this might be an interesting topic of conversation nor the author of the article is even close to your level of intelligence. So they deserve to be insulted. I mean, the obvious is fodder for weak minds. True genius seeks out the counter intuitive, the obscure and the contradictory.

    The net is filled with these tiny minded people who actually work to build sites on truly mundane issues like corn growing in Iowa. BORING!!!!!

    Let's ignore the fact that it is petty minds working on the obvious that grow the food we eat, and build houses we live in. It may be necessary to have a bunch of petty minds working on the obvious to make the internet work...but please, we don't need to hear any of this in our idle chit chat on slashdot. This forum should be about truly important questions such as the different smells that come from a priori, a posteriori and synthetic farts.

    1. Re:Yes, the obvious is too dull of a topic!!!! by davebarz · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Look, I am very interested in traffic patterns and the growth of the internet. I do web design and hosting. And I read the entire article before posting, expecting to find something insightful, an interesting deduction based on what the author was saying, something of the like. But I found that the entire article consisted of obvious observations that anyone who has used the internet for any length of time (most /.ers fall into this category) would have made on their own. So, perhaps this article would indeed appeal to a niche market, but do I not have a right to declare that I am not in that market?

    2. Re:Yes, the obvious is too dull of a topic!!!! by yintercept · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I agree, the article wasn't well written. I was disappointed by the lack of depth, and I thought the author was a bit full of himself.

      The topic, however, is extremely interesting. I find the distribution of web traffic to be fascinating topic. While Wall Street concentrates on just the biggest sites, IMHO, the real meat of the net is all the small independent sites, and the interaction between these sites.

      I've actually spent a fair amount of time trying to help to build awareness of independent web sites in small towns, and trying to help towns build a topology of links that can attract more traffic into their independent niches. Although the article was poorly written, it starts to address the important issue that small sites need to know: They need to know how to identify their niche and to understand the flow of traffic in their niche.

      IMHO, the topology of the independent web is much more interesting that the Media Metrix 50. Figuring out how to define and build these markets is a major challenge. I wish the article went further in that direction.

      I was snippy in my post because the study of traffic begins with the obvious. Webmasters get their biggest jumps in traffic by answering obvious questions like: who is my audience? Who are my competitors? How is the traffic distributed among my competitors? What are the keywords that attract my audience?

      I read the entire article before posting, expecting to find something insightful, an interesting deduction based on what the author was saying, something of the like.

      The fault of the article was that it didn't present its ideas very clearly...not that it dwelt the obvious. Personally, I think the introduction of terms is more important than wrapping up with a conclusion...the net seems to change too fast for conclusions.

      The article made interesting allusions to the patterns of traffic in large markets being similar to small markets. It is an obvious way to state things, but a worthwhile observation.

    3. Re:Yes, the obvious is too dull of a topic!!!! by Tsu+Dho+Nimh · · Score: 2, Insightful
      "I found that the entire article consisted of obvious observations that anyone who has used the internet for any length of time (most /.ers fall into this category) would have made on their own."

      You are obviously overlooking the obvious observation ... Nielsen doesn't write for experienced designers whose sites are perfection in pixels, he writes for the clueless and confused who want to make their sites better, and in the process gives designers cluesticks to whack PHBs with. That article is a powerful weapon for a designer trying to talk a client or PHB out of creating a Swiss-Army-knife website when the company just needs a 3/32 hex driver.

  32. Yes, but... by ucblockhead · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is making money the only important thing?

    The nice thing about the web is that you can publish things even when you don't care about making money. Try that with a physical book.

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  33. It's true! by ucblockhead · · Score: 4, Funny

    Almost since it's inception, my site has absolutely dominated the "sites about ucblockhead" niche.

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    The cake is a pie
  34. 'Cause by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Remember back when micro-brews emerged?

    In case you are too young or didn't notice (while guzzling your Bud Lite and thumping your chest at what a totally unique and studly american you were) hundreds of small brewries emerged over the past couple decades in the USA. Many offered true to the spirit, even abiding by the German Purity Law (Reinheitsgebot), producing quality ales, stouts, lagers, etc. This, as anyone with a lick of sense could see, could lead to serious encroachment of Mega-Brew markets. So they did the american thing and bought a pile of them to hedge their bets and those small brewers who realised they could do fun things with a lot of money sold out.

    I have the hunch the big web content sites are aware of how such a similar loss of page views to tiny, informative sites could be attractive. I know some have already sold out, even years ago. However, I also expect that some of these big sites could, and maybe are, running their own mini-sites, to capture that interest in focused, quality content and service. After all, who wants to wade through all the crap they have on their main pages? Not everyone, so why not be all stealthy and play both ends of the field, thus hedging their own bets.

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  35. AdSense by danny · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Try out Google's new AdSense program. They accepted my site, with under 200 000 page views a month, and they target ads specifically for individual pages, selling them to their large AdWords customer base.

    Danny.

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  36. a useful relevence engine has not been developed by mabu · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The dinky sites are the future, but only when a search engine can come up with a truly useful relevence engine.

    It has not been developed as of yet. The best Google and others can do as of yet are cross-link relevance formulae, which can be manipulated.

    Ironically, Google has taken a step backwards with the intent to filter blogs. Blogs are generally more relevant to the content they reference than 90% of the crap that comes up in search results.

  37. Re:Subweb-type Topology by corbettw · · Score: 2, Funny

    Such a thing already exists. In all likelihood, your apartment building has a washroom. In all likelihood, in that washroom is a notice board. You can put notices for just about anything on the notice board, and inform your neighbors of your bounty of mashed taters.

    Of course, you would've already known this if you washed your clothes once in a while.

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  38. Jakob Nielsen is a web design GOD! by Tsu+Dho+Nimh · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Nielsen (and his associates) give away enough information on their sites to make anyone willing to give their methods a try into a better than average web designer.

    There are two ways to hit the top ranks in the search engines ... one is the way we've all been spammed about, with the hidden words, feeder pages, keyword cramming, etc. to make your web page "EXPLODE!!!!! with TRAFFIC!!!!" That is a desperation move for a me-too site selling the same products as 10,000 other sites who all fell for the same infomercial and became e-tailers.

    And then there is the way Nielsen just revealed: find your niche, be the best in your niche, fill the pages with quality information about your specialized topic and don't worry about the big guys. You might only get 100 visitors a day, but they are exactly the visitors you wanted.

    Something he hints at in other columns, but never states outright, something so obvious as to be ludicrous, but overlooked by herds of web designers ... HTML is a markup language for structure. And my tedious slogging through the research behind the indexing robots' algorithms shows that they use the structure to assign relevance whenever they detect it. If you have a well-structured document with well-chosen text, you can blow your competitors out of the top search engine listings.

  39. Small sites dominate .... my a$$!! by mustangdavis · · Score: 2, Interesting
    'Considering that the Web as a whole will have about 4 trillion page views this year, the [low-traffic] sites might seem irrelevant with their pitiful millions of page views. But within their niche they dominate.'


    I currently run a couple of free online games, http://www.coldfirestudios.com (*cheap plug*). I currently receive about 300,000,000 page views per year on a total of 3 games. That isn't too bad ..... but it definately isn't a "large" site ....


    I have been told that our Space and WWII game are some of the most detailed games of their genre, yet the games barely support themselves with the banner ads we place on the site ...

    ... which leads me to this question: HOW IS THIS DOMINATING?????

    I suppose this is better than the fate of many other smaller web sites, but give me a break! Over the past 5 years, I have seen my competition come and go .... but no one is "dominating" ... they are surviving!!!


    Who ever came up with this idea that smaller web sites will dominate is on crack! It has been proven over and over that only web sites that utilize economies of scale can survive on the net these days ... because most advertisers want CHEAP advertising that MANY people will see over and over .... you don't get either of those with targeted advertising on small web sites!!!


    Mod this down (or even troll it), but this has been my experience ......


    Advertisers (people that can still afford advertising) want to reach the masses, which means you need thousands (or millions) of unique visitors daily ....

    Just my $0.02 cents ...


    1. Re:Small sites dominate .... my a$$!! by JSkills · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Well - dominating doesn't necessarily mean you have to make your money via online ad revenue (which is fairly passe in 2003). Obviously we have to adapt to the market.

      Our site, www.goofball.com (shamless plug too), was doing close to a million pageviews per day in 1999. All the content was free and given that it has always represented the largest database archive of funny/filthy/crazy videos (and anything else funny), people loved coming in and grabbing it for free - much like they probably do your games. We got paid CPM advertising rates, so we were able to cover our huge hosting/bandwidth costs.

      Times changed and we had to switch to a different model - membership fees. Yes, our traffic is now a quarter of what is once was, but so are our hosting costs and we're still in the black. Not dominating for sure - but slightly profitable (or even just breaking even) is far better than what we've seen with some larger sites (massively in debt / shutting down).

      I guess the point is to keep your site alive, particularly since you're obviously passionate about the subject matter. Maybe offering a preview version of the games for free and having people pay for a more full version might be one idea you could try? I do not mean to oversimplify your situation of course ...

      The full story is here if anyone is interested ...

  40. It's true, Blogs work. by Angerson · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I recently started a weekly online comic strip in April and when I first launched the strip I ran an ad campaign (banner ads + Google ad words) to help drive some readers in. It worked, but only marginally. I was getting visitors but I had to pay for each one and, worst of all, my site had no real means of generating revenue.

    Thankfully, as it would turn out, someone who ran a Blog site stumbled across my comic not too long after it's debut and wrote a quick blurb about it on their site. Within days I found myself linked on about a dozen other Blogs and then the traffic started pouring in. It wasn't a huge amount of visitors, perhaps 3-5 thousand uniques total but it was ten times more than the advertising and a heck of a lot less expensive. ;)

    Had this not happened I would have never guessed the relevance of personal/blog sites. It only goes to show that word-of-mouth is one of the most powerful forms of advertising.