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US Cell Phone Users Discover SMS Spam

The Llama King writes "It's a bigger problem in Europe and Japan/Asia, but as SMS text messaging or "texting" becomes more popular in the United States, its users are discovering that spammers like it too, according to this Houston Chronicle story. Cell phone companies are trying to stem the spam flood before it starts, worried that users will turn off their phones, thus denying providers revenue."

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  1. only two things are certain in life.... by sweeney37 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Unlike Internet spam, wireless phone spam comes with an annoying beep on your phone and a direct price tag," said Janee Briesemeister, senior policy analyst with the Consumers Union in Austin. "Consumers aren't just getting an annoying message they didn't want, they are paying 10 cents for it."

    Perhaps because this will directly affect people's pocketbooks we'll see faster legislation. Not unlike taxes, when people start losing money, the louder they become.

    Mike

    1. Re:only two things are certain in life.... by caluml · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You pay to receive SMSs? That's messed up.

    2. Re:only two things are certain in life.... by marshac · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Title 47 does seem to provide for protection against SMS-style spam. The reason is that for it costs YOU money to receive the unsolicited ads.

      'to any telephone number assigned to a paging service, cellular telephone service, specialized mobile radio service, or other radio common carrier service, or any service for which the called party is charged for the call;'

      So I believe that if you wanted to, you would have grounds for a lawsuit under current law.

  2. Easy Solution by Davak · · Score: 4, Interesting


    An easy solution exists for this. The cell phone shouldn't accept text messages from someone the user has called the number previously or unless the number exists in the contacts listing.

    What's the odds of getting messages from someone whom you have never spoken with on the phone previously?

    Of course, this could be an enabled or disabled option.

    Daval

    1. Re:Easy Solution by gotacap · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Personally I don't use SMS for texting from one phone to another, but as a notification feature from the net. I have setup a special e-mail forwarder on my domain to send to the e-mail to sms gateway for verizon (So that I didn't have to remember the sudomain of the gateway) and have several of my monitoring software set to send a short e-mail to that address whenever something goes down, also I've given the address of the forwarder to a few key members of my staff and family for them to quickly get a message to me wherever I am. I often find this is better then getting a call, why waste my minutes to tell me something simple?

  3. sad thing is I don't even want to disable SMS. by garcia · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I have found that the IM forwarding feature on some of the more recent betas of AOL Instant Messenger to be quite handy.

    GF could message me from AIM and I could call her back without her or I incurring any charges (incoming SMSs are free).

    So now I am going to get spammed by SMS because it has to be EXTREMELY easy to send to number@mobile.att.net. Great.

    What I am more worried about is my phone auto-answering. I was at work and heard a voice coming out of my phone. It was a telemarketer. The phone actually picked this call up by itself. Great. I had to call AT&T and have them investigate to remove the minute charges...

  4. Re:Easy Solution--Edit by Davak · · Score: 4, Informative

    The cell phone shouldn't accept text messages from someone *UNLESS* the user has called the number previously or unless the number exists in the contacts listing.

    Sorry. Too tired to be posting.

    Davak

  5. We call it "honey messaging..." by jordandeamattson · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In our family, we call it "honey messaging...", as in, "Honey will you pick up a gallon of milk on the way home?" or "Honey, remember that I love you..."

    SMS is great for sending short and sweet messages that requires no acknowledgement, and would be intrusive if sent.

    It really is instant messaging for cell phones...we love it. And having the ability to have things SMS to me (for example, updates on my flight from United) if fantastic.

  6. simple solution by way2trivial · · Score: 5, Insightful

    charge the sender of all SMS's 5 cents
    give recipients a penny credit on their bill

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    1. Re:simple solution by rcs1000 · · Score: 4, Informative

      OK; the US phone system is completely fucked up.

      In England, you pay to send, not to recieve. At 5p a time, spamming is not economic. I have never recieved a spam sms.

      Now, in Houston, if my girlfriend dumped me, I could amuse myself for hours sending her 100s of SMSs, and racking up a great big for her. Wheeeeeee!

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  7. SMS spam it isn't a problem in Finland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Since it has been outlawed many years ago. I haven't received a single spam during the time I had a cell phone (4.5 years).

  8. Re:only two things are certain in life... by smokin_juan · · Score: 5, Interesting

    the big question is: why the hell do SMSs cost 5-10 cents? for god sakes, i condense my conversation and take a fraction of the bandwith of a voice call so these rat-bastards can charge extra for it. it just ain't right unless you're talking about spam-deterrent, and spam-deterrent it ain't. it's just another case of companies charging money where they can, not where they ought to. i'll be more than happy to pay for the blades AND the razor but for fuck sakes charge the right price for 'em. and you may wonder why the economy is tanking - because, as i've outlined above, it's ficticious bullshit and wether or not people realize it, they're sick of it.

  9. Pricing for receive: a North American problem? by chathamhouse · · Score: 5, Informative

    Having recently moved to Australia from Canada, I was:

    (1) Surprised to see that all inbound calls, text, and airtime were free on my mobile plan.
    (2) My outbound costs were ~6x greater than before (au$0.60/min vs cnd$0.10/min)
    (3) My text sending costs were lowered.
    (4) There was no charge for flagfall. But now fsck'ing Vodafone plans to change that. (Australia is one of the few countries where the cost of telecom seems to rise. Yech)

    From a quick look into the situation, you pay nothing to receive SMS everywhere but North America.

    But, you certainly pay to send SMS, which is a sure deterrent to Spam.

    Hence, switch to a sender-pays model. Problem solved if the cost to send exceeds expected revenue from spamming. If current e-mail response rates (1%) hold, it'll be a non-issue.

    I'd love to hear of countries outside Canada/US where there are charges to receive SMS though. That would blow this theory out of the water.

  10. It's here to stay for the forseeable future by pytheron · · Score: 4, Informative

    The problem with SMS spam is that it is mostly scams being operated by shady businesses, urging you to text back to this number (premium charge, or course) to win a vapour-prize, or dial-this-number-to-win etc. With the advent of SMS gateways years ago, sending bulk SMS-spam from a computer is fairly easy. Since most operators need to accept traffic from others to ensure connectivity, getting rid of the problem would involve too much pain IMO. My money is on end users having to live with it.. just like we do in the UK. The only lesson to be learnt is to be extremely careful who you give your personal information to. Treat your mobile number like your personal email address.

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  11. Spam from Cingular's own website by PhantomHarlock · · Score: 4, Informative

    Don't sign up for a mycingular.com account if you have a Cingular Wireless phone. I was (inaccurately) told by a Cingular operator that in order to get an email address (email -> SMS) for my phone I had to create an account on cingular.com.

    A few months later I got a spam text message on my phone from a third party advertiser targeting cingular wireless users. The only way that could have happened is if Cingular sold my info. I was fuming mad and wrote Cingular's division headquarters. I received a phone call in response to the letter, and the woman said I did not need a cingular.com account for Email -> SMS gateway, and the only reason to sign up for mycingular.com is to download ringtones and such. (and there are far better places to get those) She cancelled the cingular.com account for me on the spot.

    So beware if you do sign up at cingular.com - Cingular SPAMs you from third party advertisers!

    To Cingular's credit, they were very responsive after I sent the letter.

    Unfortunately though, I just got another junk message from Cingular themselves the other day, I can't even remember what they were advertising. If that happens again, it's one more nail in the coffin for them. Although I wonder if I'll get the same thing no matter what carrier I choose these days.

    I wonder how long it will take before spammers start bruteforcing phone numbers at mobile.mycingular.com. (that's the email -> phone gateway, yourphone#@mobile.mycingular.com)

    --Mike

  12. One of the primary problems in Holland by puntloos · · Score: 3, Interesting

    .. was (now its legislated a bit) that subscribing to SMS services like getting a SMS when your stock options change, when a new sex message has been generated for you (yes you can subscribe to that here) or when a new news headline happens, is that registring for it is easy enough. Just send "sex on" to number 6969, however turning these services off again was near-impossible. Unless you are creative enough to figure out that turning it off needed "no more sex please" to 9696

    Oh and every message they send you is $1.50 a piece.

    Anyway I can't really say I have ever received SMS spam, and I've had a GSM for 5+ years now. But just as with email spam, I have been conscious about not listing my number in phonebooks and not putting it into any casual 'please fill out this info' forms. I suggest you do the same :)

  13. Huh? You have to pay *extra* for SMS? by Moderation+abuser · · Score: 4, Funny

    I new the US mobile system was fucked up, but I didn't think it was that bad.

    Sure sounds like you're getting royally ripped off.

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    1. Re:Huh? You have to pay *extra* for SMS? by Arjuna+Theban · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yea, I pay $42 for 500 weekday daytime minutes, *unlimited* night (after 9 I believe, when I make most of my calls anyway) and weekend minutes, *all* including national long distance. And oh, I don't pay roaming anywhere my cell phone company has service, which is basically any metro area in the US.

      Man, that's really fucked up isn't it? I'd much rather pay $0.50/min on every call I place like I used to when I used a cell phone in Europe a few years back.

      -bm

    2. Re:Huh? You have to pay *extra* for SMS? by womby · · Score: 5, Informative

      ok well try this

      I pay nothing monthly (orange.co.uk or virgin.co.uk)
      I pay nothing for incoming calls
      I pay nothing to receve SMS messages
      I pay 5p (aprox 7c per minute) for the first 2 minutes of calls made each day
      I pay 2p (aprox 3c per minute) for all other minutes

      to spend $42 per month I would have to use the phone every day and make over 1440 minutes of calls

      just because you were too stupid to find a call plan that was sensible in europe doesnt mean nobody else can

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    3. Re:Huh? You have to pay *extra* for SMS? by skinfitz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yes you DO pay for incoming calls with a cell phone.

      Not in the UK you don't.

      I still find it hard to accept that in the US people actually put up with paying to RECIEVE calls - but SMS as well??? That is just utterly idiotic!!! I wonder what total moron thought THAT would be a good idea? - So lets see - you dont like someone so you send a kabillion SMS messages to their cell phone by using a free SMS gateway and bankrupt them.

      No wonder the whole mobile phone system is backwards in the US - I'm amazed anyone bothers with cellphones at all.

  14. Oh Boy... by PS-SCUD · · Score: 4, Funny

    I can't wait until I start getting ASCII porn messages on my phone.

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  15. Two notes by mgcsinc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I make two first-hand notes about SMS spam:

    1. I live in Europe, have had an SMS-capable cell phone for two years, and have never received a single piece of SMS spam. I credit this with never having given to any logo/ringtone website my phone number, and let me tell you, I much prefer not getting spam to having a nice ringtone.

    2. I have never understood the US SMS pricing scheme; the idea that one would have to pay for messages received completely baffles me, and I think it threatens to be the single largest reason that SMS spam will have such a profound effect on US consumers.

  16. hunting down spammers is a waste of time... by shams42 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...when you can just go after the companies that hire them.

    Now I know this might not work for international stuff like the Nigerian scam, but it should work for domestic spam. And though I don't yet recieve SMS spam, the vast majority of my e-mail spam seems to originate from domestic companies.

    I mean, in order to sell a product or a service, you have to provide your vict^h^h^h^h, customers with valid contact information so that they can purchase the product. Jon Q. Fucktard can't purchase herbal viagra or a "real university degree" without knowing where to send the check.

    Removing the financial incentive to hire spammers will be far more effective than trying to control it through technological means.

  17. Spam techniques by BrookHarty · · Score: 4, Informative

    I work for a wireless telco, and we have some techniques in place to guard against spammers. Nothing is 100% perfect, but we make it easier to catch.

    1. Using subscriber ID's that are 16 digit long, phone+random number. (To protect against that type of subscriber ID spamming, numerical increasing.)
    2. Intelligent email servers, that flag large requests and put them in queues that our NOC can monitor. Thou they have to trip the threshold.
    3. Corporate customers who use SMS for dispatch, use dedicated connections. (No public connection for spammers to exploit.)
    4. You can opt-out from telco originated spam, which is very few a day. (And opt-out works, not like spammers.)

    Nothing is perfect, SMS is just like any other messaging system that can be abused, IM and Email. You dont want to filter to hard and block valid requests, yet you dont want spammers to eat your bandwidth.

    I myself use SMS for trouble tickets, email alerts on systems, and escalation notifications. I finally directed most of my SMS to a pager instead of my phone. Dont want to mix IM's with work. And I can turn my pager off when I'm not on-call.

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  18. Yeah, the easy solution? by Moderation+abuser · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Add layers of unnecessary complexity to phone software. Sure, that's the way to do it.

    The sane solution is to make the sender pay, just like they do in the rest of the world...

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    1. Re:Yeah, the easy solution? by FyRE666 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Make the sender pay with what? A $0.05 credit card charge? Mail them a bill? Require them to establish an account beforehand?

      If you make the sender pay, then you're severely reducing the usefulness of the service.

      Please tell me you're joking here! You're honestly asking how a mobile phone user could pay to send an SMS message (data) when they already pay to make calls (more data). Pretty simple really, isn't it? You bill them per message - it's what we all do in Europe and it makes SMS spam prohibitively expensive (not to mention the fact it's also illegal and carries huge penalties now).

    2. Re:Yeah, the easy solution? by Lord+Azrael · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Europe's SMS is significantly less useful than the US.

      NACK. The key feature is "sending a short message" without disturbing the recipient but enabling him to read your 160 characters message if he has the time.

      I find it extremely useful the way it is in europe and using SMS for 5 years now i have received 1 (read: ONE) SMS-Spam as far as i can remember that and this is definitely due to the fact, that the sender has to pay for it!

      That's absolutely the way i want it to be, anything else will lead to the simptoms we have with spam emails: you need a software to get rid of the unwanted stuff.

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    3. Re:Yeah, the easy solution? by ColaMan · · Score: 3, Informative

      Telstra has a dial-up gateway to send SMS messages - you dial a number and get greeted with a little text menu that prompts you through the process of sending a SMS message. You get charged 10c or so for each message you send and you can (i think) send 4 messages at a time before needing to redial it.

      There's also a "bulk" version of the above with start and end codes etc, you can send an unlimited number of messages in one go, but you need software to do so. There's quite a few SMS messengers for PC's and modems around the place.

      As everyone else has said - get the sender to pay, or don't let them send messages. Easy as that. Most civilised ;-) countries have peering arrangements with other telco's for SMS messaging, same as for normal phone connections.

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  19. Re:only two things are certain in life... by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you work it out, then paying 5p / text message is the equavalent to paying over £450 per megabyte

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  20. Agree - now to implement "sender pays" email by Quizo69 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have to say that the way it works here in Oz is great for the most part - the sender pays for the SMS message, not the receiver.

    The only change to this is if you SMS someone who is overseas and who is using AutoRoam (GSM rest-of-world-only, sorry USA). Then I can SMS that person and only pay for a local SMS, the overseas portion is billed to the person overseas at the time.

    I've never had any SMS spam (other than one or two SMSs from my phone provider which were borderline spam advertising new services but not overly disturbing).

    Now imagine if the sender pays system were implemented in email in some fashion.... we'd kill spam virtually overnight!

    The big issue with email is that, like P2P music trading, it's been free for so long that people don't want to go back to a paying system. So a solution to spam would need to involve return credits of some sort, so if I email my friend it costs me 1c but he can negate that automatically, so only those spammers whose emails aren't wanted don't get their money back. The devil's in the details though, but food for thought!

    Quizo69

  21. Poor Rational by Sturm · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's exactly this sort of logic that has prevented any meaningful progress in the War Against E-mail Spam. Even though you don't see it on your bill, E-mail spam DOES cost the end user in money and time, just like SMS spam. Spammers would have you believe that spam is "free" and of course their favorite argument, "It's easy to just hit delete". But, as many of us know, this argument is misleading. Certainly this line of thinking would have some validity if we just received one or two pieces of spam a day. However, the truth of the matter is that for someone who makes $20 or $30 an hour, a half an hour a day to wade through 100s of E-mail spams beccomes quite costly. All of the sudden, 10 or 20 SMS spams a day at $0.10 a pop look cheap in comparison. And this doesn't even begin to touch upon the added costs in equipment, bandwidth and personnel that ISPs have to procure to store, send/receive and try to stem the flood E-mail spam. Those costs almost certainly will be passed on to the customer as well.
    We need to try to get rid of ALL spam. Whether it's SMS, E-mail, dead tree, fax or whatever.

  22. Won't tolerate it. by Scutter · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I absolutely refuse to tolerate any SMS spam on my cellphone. My gripe is not so much the cost as the inconvenince of having my phone go off every thirty seconds, then trying to sift through to figure out what's legitimate. The first time I get an SMS spam, I'm having the "feature" disabled on my phone since SMS will then become completely useless.

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  23. Not a problem in Canada by Bilange · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've been told that cell phone numbers are supposed to be confidential in Canada (in other words: Foobar inc. won't be able to find your cell number (unless you write/say it everywhere to everyone, of course))

    I used SMS a bit with one friend of mine, and none of us recieved a single SMS spam.

    Someone else in this thread said to get rid of the spam from the source, not the destination - I think thats not totally true. Since SMS spam looks like e-mail spam so much, why dont mobile service providers add some software to block SMS spams before they send SMS to the user? Its a bit like Hotmail (or whatever e-mail service) spam filtering.

    While im at it, it would be nice to have a spam filtering web interface on your cell provider's website that acts a bit like hotmail custom filters, for example: "If text contains 'free viagra', do not send" and so on.

    My 2 canadian cents (thats $0.01 USD).

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  24. It's not *such* a big problem here in the .uk by alanw · · Score: 3, Informative
    I get about 1 SMS spam per month. I never give my mobile number out, so they are all just being dialled randomly. We have several avenues of complaint:

    ICSTIS, who regulate the premium rate telephone market - most of my SMS spams are shilling premium rate numbers, claiming that "I have won a prize" or that "someone likes me". ICSTIS have fined many spammers thousands of pounds.

    There is also the Advertising Standards Authority who are now accepting complaints.

    It is also illegal to use an automated dialler, but the bunch of lazy jobsworths at the Data Protection Agency can't be bothered to prosecute.

  25. Dose of Facts... by SlimFastForYou · · Score: 3, Interesting

    God Bless America! Please??? She needs it!

    Remember:
    - Many plans bill you $0.10 per SMS message.
    - You can send free SMS messages from the carrier's web site.
    - Spammers can use programs to post hundreds, perhaps thousands of SMS send message requests to carrier web sites.
    - If a spammer sends 1,000 SMS messages from AT&T's web site per minute, AT&T makes $6,000/hour from that spammer.

    Seems like a win/win system, doesn't it? Spammers get to spam for cheap, and your carrier makes big bucks as well. If corporate interests aren't at stake, why should U$ courts become involved or even care?

    Best part of it all, some phones cannot even outright disable SMS messaging, and phone reps can't even turn it off. Another corporate Gotcha!