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LooseChanj writes "Ed Lu, a member of the Expedition 7 crew of the ISS has been sending back some extremely well written and interesting commentary about his mission, and some of the things one has to deal with in space. This is exactly the kind of stuff we need to see more of out of NASA!"

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  1. What I thought we needed more of from NASA... by egg+troll · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...were successful missions. But apparently, I was wrong.

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    1. Re:What I thought we needed more of from NASA... by LooseChanj · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well see, there's thing thing here in the US known as "Congress", which is mostly a bunch of rich white guys who spend all the government's money. They like to spend it on stuff that will get them re-elected to said congress. What this generally means is spending the money on stuff people think is important. The problem NASA has is pushing all this boring (to the average person) science stuff. Ed Lu's letters show an enthusiasm and desire to entertain and educate the average joe. It's fun stuff to read (if space happens to be your bag), and hopefully if we could get more of this stuff out of NASA more people would get interested, say they'd like to see it have a higher priority to some focus group weasel, congress would send more $$$ NASA's way (they're getting about $14,000,000,000.02 this year, of which $5,000,000,000.02 is manned spaceflight), and I better end this runon sentence now. Compare those numbers with what the military gets, which is I think around $400,000,000,000.02, plus/minus $50,000,000,000.02. More money means more missions, and more successes.

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  2. What happens to Farts in weightlessness ????????? by zymano · · Score: 3, Funny

    something to ponder.

  3. yay! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yay! The world's.. err.. galaxy's... first splog!!

    (space log)

  4. Congratulations! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    A first post that not only wasn't just some stupid shit, it was rather insightful, and a tad witty as well.

    Sir, I salute you!

  5. Re:What happens to Farts in weightlessness ??????? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    they still stink

  6. Godzilla by Raul654 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's nice to see that at $20,000/pound, we're sending gozilla toys into orbit. The true irony would be if he were doing it from the Japanese Experiment Module

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    1. Re:Godzilla by Omega's+Wildfire · · Score: 2, Funny

      I am sure he told the guys at NASA command that he would eat a light breakfast to compensate for the weight difference. ;) What fun would space be if you couldn't play with toys?

    2. Re:Godzilla by pyrrho · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It doesn't actually cost by the ounce. They have a total pull they will take and they divide the cost by the weight to get numbers like that..., it's not actually directly proportional and the personal items the astonauts take up easily fit in the margins and don't actually cost much more in extra fuel.

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    3. Re:Godzilla by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      forget Godzilla... I think that's a Windows Screen!!!! RUN!! She's coming down!

      And yes, I think that's funny.

    4. Re:Godzilla by Valar · · Score: 1

      Why, you may ask?

      Because we can.

    5. Re:Godzilla by stinky+wizzleteats · · Score: 1

      It's nice to see that at $20,000/pound, we're sending gozilla toys into orbit.

      Okay, fine. When you go up for your six month shift, you'll only be allowed one carryon item.

      My personal choice would be to take balloons up. Attach an inflated balloon to godzilla with a contrivance to open the balloon after a set time interval. (I'm sure a modified egg timer will work) Then send gozilla floating down a corridor perpendicular to the area my crewmates are sleeping in...

  7. The Russians are making a MOCKERY of ISS. by zymano · · Score: 1, Insightful
    Sending Millionaires up in space has nothing to do with science !!!!

    So the ISS is not about science.

    Purely a Government Jobs program right now.

    It may have a use as a station to build spaceships for space exploration but that won't be done for a long time.

    Should never have been constructed ! Huge waste of money.

    1. Re:The Russians are making a MOCKERY of ISS. by cbogart · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Sending a millionaire into space is IMO the most worthwhile thing the station is doing. The science is probably not worth what they're paying for it, but creating a market for space tourism will be one more source of funding for research that will lower launch costs and indirectly help science. ISS is there not for science but because it's *cool* to have a space station. While I agree it shouldn't have been built, tourism is a more honest use for it, and a good use in the long term I think.

    2. Re:The Russians are making a MOCKERY of ISS. by BattleWolf · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Perhaps sending millionaires up has nothing to do with science - but if the funding cannot be found elsewhere (like the Russian taxpayer) why not let those self same millionaires foot at least part of the bill?

    3. Re:The Russians are making a MOCKERY of ISS. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Didn't they train Tito (the millionare) to do some experiments?

    4. Re:The Russians are making a MOCKERY of ISS. by DaemonGem · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why? Should space be kept only for those of us who are physically perfect, have trained for years and years as pilots, and now as astronauts? Why shouldn't other people be allowed into space? Also, I'm sure Russia could use the money, and it's not exactly hurting anyone, is it? Space belongs to us all. It is for everyone to conquer, not just astronauts and experts. If rich people can go into space, soon the prices will go down, until more and more people can go into space. I think that is worth it.

      -Dae

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    5. Re:The Russians are making a MOCKERY of ISS. by Penguinshit · · Score: 1

      Yeah. They trained him to stay the fuck out of the way.

      However.. if I had 20 mil to burn you can bet your ass I'd be on the next flight up there.

    6. Re:The Russians are making a MOCKERY of ISS. by akpcep · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Yes, in a word it should be kept only for trained astronauts and scientists. The point of space travel is to learn about the universe, it's not an equal opportunities day trip programme.

      Nor is it there to 'conquer', if anything it should give humanity some much needed humility and teach us about our place in the whole.

      And no, I'm not a hippy or a vegetarian.

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    7. Re:The Russians are making a MOCKERY of ISS. by agent+dero · · Score: 2

      Space has been named the "final frontier" for a reason.

      For any frontier, you send highly skilled folks, and the risk-takers first. They open up the door, and then the settlers come in.

      Yes space is for all of us, but it is also very very very dangerous. The idea that at this point in our technology we can afford to send Joe Richguy up in space is ridiculous, and contradictory to the idea that "space is for all of us"

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    8. Re:The Russians are making a MOCKERY of ISS. by golgotha007 · · Score: 1

      Sending Millionaires up in space has nothing to do with science !!!!

      So the ISS is not about science.


      how is this insightful? it is obviously very flawed logic. i suggest that the parent poster take a logic course and reconsider his/her thoughts before posting.

    9. Re:The Russians are making a MOCKERY of ISS. by Mac+Degger · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The ISS is a symbol of humanities accomplishments. We do it because we can...when has the human race needed any other excuse?

      Not only that, but the lessons we learn there (technical as well as psychological) are neccessary for what we need to do; making sure we don't have all our eggs in the same basket (just look at what hit our neighbouring planetoid a while back!).

      As for your logic, it sucks; "Sending Millionaires up in space has nothing to do with science !!!! So the ISS is not about science."

      WTF?.

      Anyway, as others have already said, space tourism is (along with comsats) the only thing that brings commercial money into space development. Therefore, it's hugely important that it is encouraged. Not just for the resulting science which such an influx and cheapening of spaceflight brings, but also because it's fun.

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    10. Re:The Russians are making a MOCKERY of ISS. by isorox · · Score: 1

      Yes, space is risky, but it's *my* risk to take, you have no right telling me what I can and cant do

    11. Re:The Russians are making a MOCKERY of ISS. by DaemonGem · · Score: 1

      Yes, space, at first, must be checked out by experts. But it's beem "only for experts" for 34 years, or more. How long must the average person wait?

      -Dae

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  8. Simple by Raul654 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The same principle that makes the shuttle go forward (conservation of momentum -- gas goes backward and you go forward) would propel you forward too. Because of air resistance, however, you would gradually slow down.

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    1. Re:Simple by red+floyd · · Score: 1

      Uh, IIRC, that's Newton's Third Law, not conservation of momentum.

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  9. Mixed feelings by Rxke · · Score: 4, Insightful

    To be sure: Since ed's logs appeared on spaceref , I've been looking out for each new installment, they are good, really. but... since the Colombia 'mishap' (what a stupid word, why don't they call a disaster a disaster, for that what is it, for NASA, at least) NASA seems to do everything to polish up their public image, in a way that's great, but they're sometimes too obvious, and start looking ridiculous. Nasa's newsletter used to be informative, but since Colombia it's just one 'come over to the party' rag; no hard info anymore, only things like kids at nasa, nasa ont tv blablabla. I'm afraid they actually pressed lu to publish these things, because he has a good pen. I can imagine those 2 guys have a hard time up there, and nasa nagging 'hey Lu, when's the next article coming down, you can sleep if you're back on earth! Ok a bit exaggerated, i guess, but still...

  10. Re:Blog? What is that? by trompete · · Score: 5, Funny

    To quote Orgazmo:

    Movie store clerk: Have you been living in a cardboard box lady??
    Joe's Fiance': No..I'm from Utah.
    Movie store clerk: Oh...sorry.

    Blog == weblog == online journal == 99% of the internet.

  11. Re:What happens to Farts in weightlessness ??????? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Probably about what happens under gravity... gases tend to be more effected by air currents than weight, and I would immagine that space craft have much better ventilation than most enclosed areas on earth.

  12. It all makes sense now by Call+Me+Black+Cloud · · Score: 5, Funny

    When Kirk would start out with "Captain's log..." he was really making an entry into his weblog. Man, I'd love to see the feedback on that thing:

    Captain's log, stardate 1234: Banged the green chick again today - what a wild one!

    Feedback:

    SpacemanSpiff: Dude! What are you drinking, Romulan Ale? Green means 1 of two things: not ripe or spoiled and either way that's one place you don't want to go where no man has gone before...

  13. Re:What happens to Farts in weightlessness ??????? by JabberWokky · · Score: 5, Funny
    Very simple. When your fellow occupants of the small enclosed space smack you, they sail backwards.

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  14. Fire Ball!! by Omega's+Wildfire · · Score: 1, Insightful

    A gaseous outburst from one's rectum can be rather interesting, if a flame is present. --- Do not try this at home. NASA astronauts are professionals. --- ;) I believe there have been some studies done on spherical flames in zero gravity environments. This does lead one to believe that before the Bunsen burner had time to be lit; maybe a test was made using a readily available gas source. One can only imagine.

  15. Good stuff by Teahouse · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Good job Ed. He has little enough time up there maintaining that thing without having to worry about posting a blog for those of us destined to dig in the dirt our whole lives. I for one am glad he posted these, even if some are a bit bland technically for an engineer.

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    "Curiosity killed the cat, but for a while I was a suspect."- Steven Wright
  16. Re:Is Ed Lu running lunix? by Rxke · · Score: 4, Interesting

    They run Windows. Actually; the first crew, under command of Bill Shepherd had some problems with it initially, what didn't help was the fact that shepherd was a Mac user, some funny entries in his -extensive and really interesting- mission log on that topic. like, he being very proud to have installed a harddisk on a windowssystem, being a Mac head. http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/station/crew/exp1/ex1l ogs.html

  17. Science Officer's Blog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    April 26: Wow, what a ride! Everything went perfectly! I really like the crew. They're so nice.

    April 30: The Commander is a little gruff at times and the payload specialist has been laying some major payloads of flatulence, but overall it's not so bad.

    May 5: The crew acts nice and polite when I'm around, but I suspect they don't like me. They always stop whispering when they see me.

    May 18: If I catch Yuri with my wife's picture again doing what he was doing, he's going to be doing some unscheduled EVA, suit optional.

    May 31: They're up to something alright. They think I can't see their little conspiratorial glances and such, but I can, oh I can.

    June 12: The voices are growing louder now. They're telling me the crew's true plan. Act normal, I can't let them know I'm on to them. Not yet.

    June 29: I've taken advantage of the short periods I have alone to set up a little surprise for these aliens posing as my human crewmates. Almost ready. Soon, soon I'll be free.

    July 7: This is my last blog entry All is prepared. The crew knows I know now. I have only miuntes now to save the world. Just one push of a button and it will be all over for these invaders.

  18. It's both by Raul654 · · Score: 4, Informative

    In this case (for a body enclosed by the space shuttle in free-fall) you can assume that momentum is conserved. So you you expel gas, the total momentum of you and the gas is 0.

    By the same token, the force exerted by you on the gas is the same force extered by the gas on you. That's newton's third law.

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  19. Nasa Webcam showed Fart lighting experiments . by zymano · · Score: 2, Funny
    Their farts were spherical red flame. Not like the farts here on Earth. Fart Machines will be richly rewarded by this project from Nasa.

    Another plus for the ISS.

  20. Re:What happens to Farts in weightlessness ??????? by anubi · · Score: 2, Interesting
    The other astronauts make you put your suit back on. ;)

    I understand in space, they don't pressure the vessel to atmospheric 14.7 psi, so if the pressure is lower, the diffusion should take place at a much faster rate. Not to say it won't be noticed, though.

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  21. So naieve by Raul654 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Green means not ripe or spoiled? What do they teach you young people these days?! You obviously have never met the triple breasted whore of Eroticon Six.

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    To make laws that man cannot, and will not obey, serves to bring all law into contempt.
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  22. Nixon's unused speech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Given the high risks inherent in each mission, I wonder what NASA really feels about astronauts blogging from space. NASA probably has mixed feelings about "personalizing" these high risk individuals. Did you all catch that recent story of the speech Nixon had ready had the Apollo 11 crew been unable to return from the moon. Compelling stuff.
    Nixon's unused speech

    1. Re:Nixon's unused speech by Mac+Degger · · Score: 1

      Thanks for that.

      And I have to congratulate Nixon's speechwritter(s)...this is much better, much 'true-er' stuff than what NASA came up with after the last bit of fireworks.

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    2. Re:Nixon's unused speech by RALE007 · · Score: 1

      Nixon's unused speech isn't very unusual. Presidents try to be prepared for the worst outcome of any situation so as not to be caught off guard. A notable example (sadly I cannot find an online reference, but I have seen it in text books) is a speech that was prepared by FDR to the American people incase Operation Overloard (eg: the invasion of normandy, D-Day) failed.

      I agree with your comment and find it insightful, I just wanted to add that Nixon's unused speech is not as uncommon of a practice as one may think.

      For a more current example, I can guarantee you GW Bush had prepared a speech before the invasion of Iraq to be used if Iraq had used WMD's on coalition troops. That never happened, so of course we never heard the speech. Sadly it will be many years, if ever, before one might be able to see a copy of the speech.

      Leaders try to be prepared for the worst, but do not want to let on that anything but good results are a possibility. To this end they put on a face of utter certainty for public view, and prepare for the worst behind closed doors.

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    3. Re:Nixon's unused speech by byee · · Score: 1

      I couldn't find anything on Roosevelt's speech, but Eisenhower wrote an apology for the failure of D-day that was never needed.
      Eisenhower apology
      (the actual note is at the very bottom)

    4. Re:Nixon's unused speech by RALE007 · · Score: 1

      I stand corrected, my memory was mistaken. Since Eisenhower later became President, I incorrectly referenced his speech in my memory as "President during WWII wrote apology speech in case of D-day failure". (That explains why I couldn't find FDR's apology speech on Google, it never existed!).

      Although the example I gave turned out not be of a prepared president, but a prepared Commander of the allied forces, I still stand by my point. It is not uncommon for those in positions of leadership to be prepared for the worst.

      I appreciate you finding my error and providing a reference to the correct information, you are quite the sharp one.

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    5. Re:Nixon's unused speech by BollocksToThis · · Score: 1

      From the 'unused speech' article:

      Recently discovered documents detail the steps Nasa and the Nixon administration would have taken had the Apollo XI astronauts Neil Armstrong and Edwin "Buzz" Aldrin been unable to return from the moon.

      Man, I'd be utterly pissed off if I was that third guy no-one ever remembered. Future generations will probably think he was a cardboard cutout.

      "Yeah, I'm Michael Collins"
      "Who?"
      "MICHAEL COLLINS. I was 1/3 of the first moon landing"
      "Ahhh, come on. I know it was Aldrin and Armstrong. Pull the other one"
      "Goddamn it, that's the last time I offer to be designated driver"

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    6. Re:Nixon's unused speech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      William Safire

    7. Re:Nixon's unused speech by Mac+Degger · · Score: 1

      Heh...now /that/ sounds like a pseudonym :)

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  23. Re:Is Ed Lu running lunix? by Rxke · · Score: 2, Informative

    Oh yeah, the Russian guys apparently run Sun and Windows.... making it a mixed systems, for they have separate computers to run their part of the station.

  24. Best. Picture. Ever. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    They have a Godzilla toy onboard the ISS.

    The desks of geeks are all very similar... even in space. I'm glad they're allowed to keep a sense of humor even though they're in space - despite what it would have cost to loft that toy into orbit. :)

    1. Re:Best. Picture. Ever. by Cl1mh4224rd · · Score: 1
      This URL has changed due to the consolidation of the International Space Station & the Space Shuttle web sites.

      Wow. They really are hurting for funding...
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    2. Re:Best. Picture. Ever. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Look at the URL; the parent hit paste twice. Cut it in half for Godzilla.

  25. Visualize... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    On orbiting: "A good way to imagine our view is to stand up and look down at your feet." He continued, "For some of you this will be an exercise in imagination. If you lack imagination, clown shoes will also do the trick."

  26. Re:What happens to Farts in weightlessness ??????? by mikeophile · · Score: 3, Informative
    Lower atmospheric pressure won't change the amount of flautulance produced, will it?

    What would be a small toot at sea level would be a station shaker at partial pressure.

    Plus, the fart/air ratio would be higher, so it might disperse quicker but might be gaggingly worse till it does.

  27. Sights you never thought you'd see. by Chuck+Chunder · · Score: 5, Funny


    Number 29:
    Americans complaining about Russians behaving like capitalists.

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  28. Re:What happens to Farts in weightlessness ??????? by A+non-mouse+Cow+Herd · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...
    I understand in space, they don't pressure the vessel to atmospheric 14.7 psi, so if the pressure is lower, the diffusion should take place at a much faster rate. Not to say it won't be noticed, though.


    Actually, ISS, the space shuttle and soyuz all run at near sea level pressure. This allows a more direct comparison to ground based medical studies, eliminates the health problems associated with long term exposure to low pressure, as well as the fire risk from higher oxygen concentration which would be required. OTOH, it means that you need an extensive pre-breath bends before EVAs, and requires a more massive pressure vessel.

    With no shower, no laundry facilities and 2+ hours of exercise required every day, ISS is most likely a smelly place, with or without farts.

  29. see more? by kipsate · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is exactly the kind of stuff we need to see more of out of NASA!

    Count me out. Manned space flight is very expensive and risky. I'd rather see NASA explore Venus or Io or put more budget into their space telescopes a la Hubble.

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    1. Re:see more? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think NASA or any other space agency will abandon manned space flight as long as they exist. Robots in space can do about anything a man can do, so it isn't the utility value of a human in space, that counts. It's the explorer dream of getting of this planet and exploring new worlds. Let's beging with Mars!

      There's so many other expenses and risks in the world - like veapon program and enviormental degration. Manned space flight is peacfull and should continue.

  30. Re:What happens to Farts in weightlessness ??????? by kramer2718 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Parent is flamebait ;)

  31. Cool by Smartcowboy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It will be cool, too, if we can read the weblog of the astronauts that will go to mars in n years.

    Right now I'm reading Mars, by Ben Bova. This is a really great novel if space exploration and/or Mars exploration interrests you. BTW Ben Bova work[ed?] for the NASA so he knows what he talk about, from the technical point of view.

    If China succeed with its space ambition to go to the moon one day (they are still very far from that goal, see various Slashdot articles in the last few weeks), it can be cool to read the weblog of this mission, too. This one maybe of less interrests because the Appolo mission was very well documented but the detail, expectation and goal of the mission will likely be somewhat different.

  32. Re:Is Ed Lu running lunix? by ReversEngineer · · Score: 1

    What's the deal with that? Does NASA really trust Windows to other superior OS's? Or could have Microsoft "influenced" them (with cash, etc.) to use it?

  33. Good in principle... by hughk · · Score: 4, Interesting

    but I know about the problems of accounting in Russia. I would want very much that the bulk of the money goes to the space program and doesn't get diverted via miscellaneous off-shore companies and swiss-bank accounts.

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  34. Re:Is Ed Lu running lunix? by Rxke · · Score: 1

    yeah; It's strange, using an OS 'for the masses' thus not optimzed for ISS, i guess they just went for the most 'obvious' solutinon, thinkin 'everybody knows how to work with windows'

  35. Food, drink, but no "log" log? by cliveholloway · · Score: 2, Funny
    OK. Maybe it's just me, but it takes them two days to get to the space station. What happens if they need a shit on the way? Are they on drugs or what?

    And I didn't read a single entry about using the toilet in the whole blog.

    Come on, there's gotta be a humorous story somewhere up there about someone "following through" when farting as they were getting dressed ("one in the eye" for international relations? :).

    Zillions of dollars and no toilet humor? Tch, what is the world coming to?

    .02

    cLive ;-)

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    1. Re:Food, drink, but no "log" log? by oniony · · Score: 3, Interesting

      In their suits I think they wear catheters (spel?) for urinal excretions and I found this link after a little insert-verb-that-means-same-as-Googling-but-withou t-using-trademark.

      Space Toilet Picture

      Space Toilet Description.

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    2. Re:Food, drink, but no "log" log? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A (somewhat) clever term I heard for "following through" as you put it, is "foopy". Fart-poopy.

      Good times...

  36. no, i think you are wrong by lingqi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    did you actually read any of his entries? how do you know they don't provide value if you didn't?

    Given that I will probably never have the chance for long-term spaceflight in my physically capable lifetime, I would darn well like to know what it feels like to sit in a capsule, and what it's like to have a few million pounds of highly explosive stuff behind you blast you up at incredible speeds - the moments when the boosters are jettisoned, etc.

    I'd like to know what it's like to fly through a space-station, and what particular difficulties are encountered during what's run of the mill on earth (eat, sleep, brush your teech, go to the restroom).

    I'd like to know the views, the feelings, the daily life - because even if I cannot make it up there physically, for at least a short while my imagination can.

    So, you think tax dollars are better spent to make some astronomers giddy about this nebula or that galaxy they can see? well, those nebulas and galaxies arn't going anywhere for the next few billion years. But there are people who might be interested in what space is like but won't ever have a chance to go up there. They won't last nearly that long.

    What's wrong with providing a taste of space for everyone like that? do we not deserve some piece of the rewards for all these achievements in space? human experience should be shared by all, not just a few scientists, methinks.

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    My life in the land of the rising sun.

    1. Re:no, i think you are wrong by kipsate · · Score: 2, Interesting

      So, you think tax dollars are better spent to make some astronomers giddy about this nebula or that galaxy they can see?

      I implied that it would be better to explore Venus or Io (or other objects within reach), instead of doing expensive manned spaceflights. There might be lifeforms elsewhere in our solar system, for instance. A bigger Hubble could discover planets around other stars. I find that much more interesting than reading the blog of an astronaut getting giddy about floating around in space. NASA has a tight budget, why waste it on manned missions? So we can read blogs from space? Get real.

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  37. Re:Is Ed Lu running lunix? by cyclone1996 · · Score: 5, Informative
    Only the laptops and the network that are used for housekeeping stuff like email, downlinking digital images, the crew's private phone (yes, they have one), procedures, and timelines are windows based.

    The laptops that plug directly into the core flight computers to allow the crew to do command and control of the station itself (critical things like maneuvering, opening valves, etc.) are running Solaris 2.5.

    These laptops are currently IBM 760 XDs but they are going to be upgraded next year, at which point the OS will be transitioned to Linux. Some of the payloads in the racks use various flavors of Unix depending on what the investigators put together but I'm not sure how many (if any) of those are Linux.

  38. Not a weblog (Was:Mixed feelings) by RobotWisdom · · Score: 4, Interesting
    As the guy who coined the term, I retain a godlike power to declare what is and isn't a weblog, and this isn't, sorry.

    As a longtime fan of NasaWatch (which is a weblog), I'd loooove to see a real ISS weblog, which would be updated continually with all the tidbits passing thru the crewman's interest, and addressed to his peers.

    But what Lu is doing isn't even a Web journal-- he's writing long essays on set topics that are targeted for a popular audience by 'talking down'.

    1. Re:Not a weblog (Was:Mixed feelings) by LooseChanj · · Score: 1

      Yeah yeah, it was poetic license, sue me.

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  39. Re:What happens to Farts in weightlessness ??????? by isopossu · · Score: 1
    I don't know if farts have a different weight from the weight of air, (or do they use pure oxygen in space stations?) farts down here either fly away or fall to the ground. So the smell seems to fade away even in small rooms with poor ventilation.

    In zero gravity, however, it would mix perfectly to the air, and maybe the stink would last indefinitely. If I remember correctly, farts consist most of methane, but the stinking ingredients are some sodium compounds. Maybe I'm wrong.

  40. no, Soyuz isn't derived from Vostok by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A good blog, agree. But it's strange to read here the following:

    We launched a little over 2 weeks ago from the Baikonur Cosmodrome on a Russian spaceship called a Soyuz TMA. It is the latest in a series of spacecraft based on the design of the spacecraft that the first man in space, Yuri Gagarin, first flew into space over 40 years ago.

    Soyuz is a completely new design, quite different from Vostok. It has its origins in the Soviet manned lunar program...

  41. My favourite quote by oniony · · Score: 2, Insightful
    When talking about 'flying' in space:

    I am ignoring the effect of air resistance and air currents because it doesn't have too much effect on human flying (it does for much lighter objects).


    Lighter objects? In zero-G? I think he may mean objects with large surface areas compared to their mass, :)
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    Powered by onion juice.

    1. Re:My favourite quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, I think he means objects with mass much lesser than humans. The lighter a object is the less is the difference between the mass of the air molecules and it. Because of that it is for instance hard to make nanotech planes. Offcourse Surface/Mass matters to, but I think what I am trying to tell is what he thinks of.

  42. Re:Is Ed Lu running lunix? by Mac+Degger · · Score: 1

    I wonder how much those 'obsolete' laptops will bring up on e-bay?
    I'd go for a laptop which had been in space :)

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  43. Re:What happens to Farts in weightlessness ??????? by RALE007 · · Score: 1

    Rule of thumb, don't do it in your spacesuit, you're only screwing yourself.

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  44. No what we really need out of NASA by Snaller · · Score: 1

    are for them to tell the truth about the Alien Technology! About the UFO's the have captured, about the reverse engineering of the flyving saucers!

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    1. Re:No what we really need out of NASA by march · · Score: 1

      Area 51 is run by the military, not NASA. Get your alien facts straight! :-)

    2. Re:No what we really need out of NASA by mike_mgo · · Score: 1

      That's what they want you to think.

    3. Re:No what we really need out of NASA by Snaller · · Score: 1

      Ah! But that's what they want you to believe! :)

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  45. The things Ed didn't mentioned by varjag · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Each spaceflight has a number of fun events and ceremonies that never go to official press releases. For instance, I hoped that Ed wouldn't be a hypocrite and will clearly state that he had to piss on a Russian bus as a part of the 'piss ceremony' (scroll down to the Baikonur piece), but no, he shamefully tosses that fact and tells us the dull story of leaving signature at the apartment's wall. He didn't even mention that every single Soyuz spacecraft carrier gets 'Tatiana' name hand-painted on it shortly before launch.

    I think if NASA wants to popularize space exploration among the youth, it should openly declare that antisocial behaviour and graffiti are mandatory parts of space travel.

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    Lisp is the Tengwar of programming languages.
    1. Re:The things Ed didn't mentioned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Not 'Tatyana', but 'Tanya'. And that is just because all the manned launches are done from Baykonur. In Plesetsk they write 'Olya' on the rockets.

  46. Good job Ed by nshravan · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The blogs are extremely informative..Its nice to see Lu mentioning in intricate detail about orbits,the ride to the station in the Soyuz, the mating of Progress with the ISS (about the lag in response of the Progress to impulses provided by Yuri and Ed's joystick and compensation & patience results thereof).

    Nice to see him talking about trivial things like what they have for dinner and how. While not getting into the larger debate of the ISS being this huge waste of money, I must admit this is pretty interesting stuff, and I'm sure it will help in ensuring sustained interest of the common man in the space program.

    I'm sure Ed will get into more interesting sermons like experiments aboard the ISS, EVA's, LOS/AOS and TDRS satellites and probably with the shuttle mission coming up in December or January,and since I think the Columbia commission's recommendations call on all future Shuttle missions making it to the ISS, there will be some interesting observations on that,if and when it happens.

    Nice work Ed! Keep up the good work!
  47. Re:What happens to Farts in weightlessness ??????? by Mwongozi · · Score: 1

    Actually, in microgravity you tend to fart a lot more. Because there's not enough gravity to cause solids to settle inside you, gasses can percolate around much more freely.

    I am told that the air on board the ISS smells quite badly, but the people living on board get used to it pretty quickly.

  48. Re:What happens to Farts in weightlessness ??????? by LooseChanj · · Score: 1

    They get sucked and filtered out by the a/c.

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  49. From the logs by matt-fu · · Score: 1

    "Captain's log. Commander Hoëk here, on a thirty-six year mission to the Crab Nebula. We've made this trip dozens of times. You know, they say sometimes people go CRAZY on these long trips. They get the, eh... SPACE MADNESS. Heh. Space madness."

  50. And now it's time for... by Vladimus · · Score: 1

    BLOGS... IN... SPAAAAAAAAACE!

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  51. What if you inhale the gas?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My friend in 3rd grade told me about this catalog he found. It had fart jars and fart tubes and stink jars etc. He said the fart jars were for farting in so you could save the smell for later, and the fart tubes were for farting into so the 'marvelous' odor could be carried directly to your own nostrils. The stink jars were for boogers shits and puke so you could watch it bubble and spew on your nightstand. Prolly all made up....

  52. Re:What happens to Farts in weightlessness ??????? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah but if you're wearing a space suit It just smells real bad for a while...

  53. Great book... by SunPin · · Score: 1

    but be warned: The sequel sucks. Return to Mars is a disgrace to the trees that had to die for it to appear in print. When you finish Mars, savor it. It is a masterpiece. Just don't get pulled into buying the second one.

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  54. Re:Blog? What is that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Blog == weblog == online journal == 99% of the internet.

    Fortunately, a portion of that other 1% has some worthwhile content, and names that aren't stupid.

  55. WMD speech by Latent+Heat · · Score: 1

    Of course GWB had the speech ready if WMD's were used on our troops. What GWB didn't have ready was the speech to use if WMD's were not used on our troops . . . or not encountered by our troops . . . or not found after a couple of months of really hard searching.

  56. Apologies to Gilbert Godfried by Latent+Heat · · Score: 1

    My mother always warned me about floating around in space like that because the when you float around like that you get giddy, and when you get giddy the next thing you know you've poked someone's eye out!

  57. Russian space food comes in CANS? by serutan · · Score: 1

    In the entry about eating aboard the ISS, I was stunned to read that much of the Russian space food comes in cans, which they open with a can opener. Cans?? The Russians haul food up to a space station in CANS??? My American preconception of the Russian space program as somewhat clunky (re: the cigarette-smoking fuel station attendant in Armageddon) just did an Olympic triple back-flip.

    1. Re:Russian space food comes in CANS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      US space food comes in Space Shuttles, so your space program is currently the clunkiest one.

  58. Ed was not the first by starbuck5250 · · Score: 1
    NASA seems to do everything to polish up their public image, in a way that's great, but they're sometimes too obvious, and start looking ridiculous.

    While NASA may well be polishing their image up (doesn't it need some shining?), Ed wasn't the first one doing this sort of thing. Don Pettit, Science Officer on Expedition Six) did something similar, called Space Chronicles before Columbia was lost. He also did Saturday Morning Science basically in his own free time and of his own volition.

    --buck
    1. Re:Ed was not the first by Rxke · · Score: 1

      Heh, there goes my rant... Of course it's a natural thing to happen, spaceflight getting a bit more routine, so the people up there are a bit less restricted in what they do and say, it's only natural, once you are a member of a permanent crew, to kinda organise your free time the way you want to. If i remember correctly, that was the biggest problem for crew one, people on the ground wanted to control almost literally every single minute of the crews life, and it led to some irritated remarks from Shepherd. It's not like those short spacejumps, where every second counts, and i think that's good. Gives the astronauts a chance to sit back and reflect, come up with novel ideas, just because they're There, and not on the ground. It's a shame they have a minimal crew, now, i think with more people up there, so everybody has some more free time, they'd do a lot more of 'crazy stuff' grass roots experiments, that could actually lead to some new insights, techniques, that nobody in their right mind would've come up with down here, because we're not adapted to think and feel... how it is in zero-g.