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How to Tell if the RIAA Wants You

codewolf writes "Wired News has an article on how file sharers can check a new online database to see if they are wanted by the recording industry. The Electronic Frontier Foundation has created a site where users can plug in their file-sharing user names. That name is checked against the list of those subpoenas filed in the Washington, D.C. district court. The EFF also has an article on how to avoid a lawsuit from the RIAA."

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  1. Why would I want to plug in my username? by xyloplax · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sounds like a great way to harvest usernames for future lawsuits.

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    1. Re:Why would I want to plug in my username? by peterpi · · Score: 4, Funny

      You put your own name in?!
      Hahahaa, sucker!

    2. Re:Why would I want to plug in my username? by vuud · · Score: 4, Informative


      I trust your comment was in jest, if not:

      Come on, this is the EFF. You should go out and take a look at what they have done to date to protect your online rights...

      Here is what they are doing right now:
      http://www.eff.org/Legal/active_legal.html

      My suggestion for all is to follow the links on the EFF site to write to your congressperson and possibly make a donation to the EFF...

      You do get a pretty cool T-Shirt

  2. It's really simple by eap · · Score: 5, Funny

    I have already done it. All you do is enter your name, address, phone number, and SSN and a helpful representative from the RIAA will contact you in 30-60 days to tell you if they want to prosecute you.

  3. Important point by mgcsinc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They make one huge point that I've been waiting for someone to make aloud: "Disable the "sharing" or "uploading" features on your P2P application that allow other users on the network to get copies of files from your computer or scan any of your music directories. We hate this option, but it does appear that it will reduce your chances of becoming an RIAA target right now." I see this as a foolproof approach because there is no way to defend oneself as a sharer, but downloaders may still claim rights to listen to the music; the approach has one obvious flaw, however, which I'd still like to see covered in some major media outlet: once everyone begins to turn sharing off, there is nothing to download and the system collapses. My bet? The RIAA recognises this effect and is just waiting for it to render P2P file-sharing dead...

    1. Re:Important point by joel8x · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Instead of just disabling the the sharing feature, why not populate it with free music/media/software? Wouldn't it be better for file sharing if they found a lot of people using it the way it was intended to be used?

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    2. Re:Important point by joel8x · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Again, to be blunt, most of the free/independent stuff sucks. People don't want it.

      As far as music goes, I tend to think that the majority of major label stuff is quite unbearable to listen to. A lot of people subscribe to the idea that if the artist isn't signed to a major, then it must not be good enough. That is so rediculous! Music production can be done so cheaply now that for a few thousand dollars, a talented musician can make a CD that sounds better than any big budget major label recording.

      On the other hand, independent films do not have that luxury just yet and it will be a while before they can compete with big budget movie studios. This kind of limitation can be good though, as it forces the filmaker to be more creative and focus more on the story (something that this summer's crop of special-effects laden "blockbuster" films seem to lack).

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    3. Re:Important point by frostman · · Score: 4, Funny

      Or populate it your own original warbling renditions of Britney et al.

      You might have to show up in court but the comedy would be priceless and, of course, you could counter-sue the RIAA for violating your civil rights.

      Parody lives.

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    4. Re:Important point by bricriu · · Score: 3, Insightful

      While in the real world, this would be a perfectly reasonable idea, in the minds of the RIAA attack lawyers it becomes something altogether different. As many commentators have already noted, almost everyone who gets a subpoena is going to have to try to settle because the costs of defending oneself is going to be too high. A screenshot of free songs on offer is bullshit evidence, but you still have to expend all the time and resources proving it's bullshit evidence. That's what SLAPPs are all about.

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    5. Re:Important point by Reziac · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The labels don't care if it's *good*; they care if it's *marketable*. If teenyboppers screamed for it last year, odds are they'll scream for something very like it this year. There's much less financial risk in backing Yet Another Same Old Song than in taking a flyer with something the audience has never heard before.

      Which selects against creativity. Some creative artists will break through anyway, as much by luck and chance as by skill or talent. But more often they have to slog it alone because they aren't sufficiently *marketable*.

      It's up to *buyers* of music to help convince the market that we're willing to buy different and unusual music. But most of the consumer market is never *exposed* to alternatives to whatever is on Clear Channel, and you can't very well buy what you don't know exists. So this bias against creativity remains a vicious cycle.

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  4. How safe are those not in US by Insipid+Trunculance · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How is the scene for people outside US.People in President blair's Britain,France,Germany?China,India,Japan,Israel?Ir aq?

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    1. Re:How safe are those not in US by CreatorOfSmallTruths · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I wondered the same thing...

      Currently it seems that the RIAA goes after US people only, the DMCA does not apply in europe and the middle east (anyway, it didn't till not long ago)...

      But , seeing the history of cooperation between the US and european countries the RIAA might very well get their hands on users from other countries...

      In short, I would love to hear from anyone the "countries outside of the US are not involved in this"... but I fear no one will be up for the challenge...

    2. Re:How safe are those not in US by sploreg · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Depends on your counry's copyright laws and international treaties. If the RIAA has established itself as a business in your country, and your country has copyright laws (it will), then the RIAA can go after you very easily. Some treaties will allow them to come after you through borders and without much trouble, so you have to be careful no matter where you live. Very few countries don't have treaties, less than what you can count on your hands, so assume that you can get busted.

    3. Re:How safe are those not in US by Bigthecat · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well in Australia right now we have quite a few watchdogs such as the ACCC (Australian Competition and Consumer Commision) which closely monitor attempted changes to the law that restrict the rights of consumers too much, for instance they stepped in the case of Sony vs. Stephens saying that modchips should be legal. We do have a Digital Agenda Act, which is similar to the DMCA, however I do not know if it is as loose in granting supoenas as the American legislation. I'm sure that if the RIAA tried to jump those measures, the ACCC would have something to say about it.

    4. Re:How safe are those not in US by mgcsinc · · Score: 4, Informative

      Just a little point of note: I live in Belgium, and I've yet to hear anything about the implications of these recent battles here, but I will note that three years ago, during the Napster era, the government here actually took matters completely into their own hands, and raided the houses of over 20 users of that software, taking custody of computers. I haven't heard any follow-up on those raids, but I'd take this lesson from them: if you live in Europe, or moreover, a country like Belgium with lax warrent and search laws, be cautious about how much your activity exposes you. And never forget, in looking at the battle between ISP's, etc. and the RIAA in the US, the level of cooperation in many of these nations between the governments and monopolies in major industries, particularly, oh, what was it? Oh yes, the Telecom/Internet industry...

    5. Re:How safe are those not in US by rokzy · · Score: 2, Informative

      from the RIAA:

      Nowhere to Hide--Compliance is Now Worldwide

      Because piracy is an international problem, RIAA has joined with the International Recording Media Association (IRMA) and other groups to combat this problem worldwide. (IRMA represents the world's leading replicators of optical media.) Recently IRMA launched the world's first Anti-Piracy Certification/Compliance Program for the manufacture of CDs, DVDs and CD-ROMs.

      Similar to RIAA's domestic guidelines, this global initiative is designed to help manufacturing plants establish procedures to reduce publishing pirated material. It was developed with input and support from the IRMA Anti-Piracy Coalition, comprised of optical media replicators, and the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA), the Business Software Alliance (BSA), the Software Information Industry Association (SIIA), the Interactive Digital Software Association (IDSA) and the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry (IFPI).

      When IRMA announced its new certification/compliance program, Scott Bartlett, Sony DADC's Vice President, Customer and Industry Relations, emphasized the importance of the program saying, "It's the right thing to do. Writers and artists, whether recording artist or motion picture producer, have the right to be paid. We have a responsibility as a major supporter of RIAA and MPAA, and as a replicator, to be at the forefront of this program - to ensure that copyrights are protected."



      also:

      Buyer Beware--The Six Deadly Sins of CD Rip-offs

      The packaging has blurry graphics, weak or bad color.

      The package or disc has misspelled words.

      The price is often way below retail value.

      The record label is missing or it's a company you've never heard of.

      It has cheaply made insert cards, often without liner notes or multiple folds.

      The sound quality is often poor or inconsistent.





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  5. Curious point on what /. readers consider rights. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Just a quick straw poll, answer AC or whatever if you like (you will anyway)

    How many of you does this annoy because you consider it a blatant disregard of legal process that the RIAA can just dive in and subpoena anyone they choose.

    And who does it annoy cos you REALLY think it's your right to download as much IP as you can for free because... hey, it's digital, and it's your right?

  6. Database not reliable... by 403Forbidden · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Out of the two names i tried, bluemonkey13 and our famous munkeyspanker21, only bluemonkey worked...

    Don't rely on this too much.

  7. What about IRC? by MoThugz · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's easier to grab people's IP address there. Unless of course u happen to use networks that hides your hostname (for DOS attack precautionary measures).

    Has the RIAA started it's "crackdown" on IRC networks?

    1. Re:What about IRC? by fredrikj · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Has the RIAA started it's "crackdown" on IRC networks?

      Perhaps not the RIAA, but a friend of mine got a cease-and-desist letter from the BSA (passed through his ISP) for being found sharing files over IRC.

      And this is in Sweden :(

    2. Re:What about IRC? by Psx29 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well its definately not hard to crack down on a regular IRC network...but I wonder about "Invisible Irc" which uses p2p routing and a central server that no one knows the address of.

    3. Re:What about IRC? by Restil · · Score: 3, Interesting

      IRC, usenet, thousands of scattered ftp servers on funny ports. They all serve the same purpose as Kazza with one distinct difference. They require half a brain and some patience to use them. And yes, while I understand the disturbing concept of assuming that most people on IRC have a brain, which scenario would you prefer if you didn't know any better:

      A: enter song name in search field, click search, click on the first name that shows up. launch file when done.

      or

      B: connect to IRC. Server full, connect to another IRC server. Wait. Join a channel. Spend two minutes closing all the popup spam windows. Sift through lists of fserve postings. Copy/paste the trigger. If necessary, sift through the fserve looking for the file you wanted. Discover that the user actually expects you to upload something first. Upload something. Get kicked off because that user doesn't want what you're uploading. Find someone else offering the same file. Makes you go to a bunch of porn sites to assemble a password for his ftp server. Connect to said ftp server. Watch while it recycles because it's already maxed out. Finally connect. Oh look, you have to upload something here too.........

      Half the people using Kazza probably don't even realize that they're sharing files. That's both the beauty and the curse of that system. People contribute what they've downloaded back to the world, even if they're not aware of it. It's also the reason that fakes, broken files, sabotaged files live on forever because people don't delete them, and they get served back out for others to propogate. But the ease of use by the users also makes it easy to target by the RIAA. Lots of clueless, easy to target people, all in one place.

      -Restil

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  8. Another point by Lysol · · Score: 4, Interesting

    For users of Kazaa-Lite, where every user is called kazaa-lite-tk (or something like that), this won't help much. While 99% of lite users will be ok, there will be that 1 person who's gonna get nabbed.

    1. Re:Another point by InnovativeCX · · Score: 3, Informative

      Sadly, that is not how it works. The RIAA is after IP addresses, not usernames. They begin downloading a file from someone with K-Lite's username (or any other) and then check to see what IP they are connected to. At that point, they have enough information to go to the user's ISP with the same pretty little subpoena that gets sent to everyone else.

      Correct me if I'm wrong, but it doesn't seem like this would do too much good. I suppose, as another user suggested, one could simply disable the sharing of files, but then again, that just gives RIAA an easier win. Oh well....off to Gnutella!

      -csa

    2. Re:Another point by evilviper · · Score: 5, Funny
      For users of Kazaa-Lite, where every user is called kazaa-lite-tk (or something like that), this won't help much. While 99% of lite users will be ok, there will be that 1 person who's gonna get nabbed.

      "As you can see, we've had our eye on you for some time now, Mr. Anderson. It seems that you've been living two lives.

      In one life, you're Thomas A. Anderson, program writer for a respectable software company. You have a social security number, you pay your taxes, and you help your landlady carry out her garbage. The other life is lived in computers, where you go by the hacker alias 'kazaa-lite-tk' and are guilty of illegially downloading virtually every copyrighted file available on the internet... Over your 56k internet connection in the past 3 months."
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  9. Re:Curious point on what /. readers consider right by BiggerIsBetter · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Personally, I don't give a rats about downloading music for free, but I am PISSED that the RIAA has been given the right to harrass private citizens at will. I hope they (inadvertantly) supoena the asshats that gave them this power.

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  10. Re:Great remedies by DASHSL0T · · Score: 3, Funny

    So no more sharing of my Linux ISOs?

    Those are copyrighted too.

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  11. Re:Curious point on what /. readers consider right by tomstdenis · · Score: 2, Informative

    Not to burst your bubble but CDs have gone down in prices in most up-to-date stores [in Canada anyways].

    I totally agree that the levy on CDs is a waste [specially since I bet more people pirate software than audio with the CDs].

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  12. Subpoena by aking137 · · Score: 3, Informative

    I don't know about other Slashdot readers, but up until a few days ago when Slashdot brought the word into daily use (and read the article!), I thought that 'subpoena' was stuff that floated in ponds. If anyone else doesn't quite remember 'subpoena' being in their day-to-day vocabulary either, this might help clear things up:

    [a@desk,docs] dict subpoena
    3 definitions found

    From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) [web1913]:

    Subpoena \Sub*p[oe]"na\, n. [NL., fr. L. sub under + poena
    punishment. See {Pain}.] (Law)
    A writ commanding the attendance in court, as a witness, of
    the person on whom it is served, under a penalty; the process
    by which a defendant in equity is commanded to appear and
    answer the plaintiff's bill. [Written also {subpena}.]

    {Subp[oe]na ad testificandum}. [NL.] A writ used to procure
    the attendance of a witness for the purpose of testifying.

    (etc)

    -Andrew

    1. Re:Subpoena by derF024 · · Score: 4, Funny

      If anyone else doesn't quite remember 'subpoena' being in their day-to-day vocabulary either, this might help clear things up

      the true source of the word, of course, can be found by breaking it into it's two root parts.

      sub, as in below, and poena, the penis. below the penis, or "by the balls".

  13. WTF? by (trb001) · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I always thought it wasn't the sharing of files that was illegal, but the downloading of them. I would still contest, to the death (or until they lock me up) that I can have any files I damn well please shared under Kazaa, Limewire, etc, it's when someone downloads them that *they're* doing something illegal. This is comparable to someone walking in your wide open front door and taking your backup cds...then *you* get sued for it. Utter bullshit.

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    1. Re:WTF? by Tim+C · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's not a very good analogy. The entire point of p2p software is to enable and facilitate sharing of files. By having files available in your shared folder, you are essentially saying to everyone and anyone "here you go, have whatever you want!".

      If those files are copyrighted, and you do not have permission to distribute them, then you are at least contributing to the copyright infringement.

      Extending your analogy, would you also argue that people who buy pirated software/movies/whatever should be prosecuted, and not the people selling them? It's the nearly same thing, after all - the discs were just there, on the market stall, no-one forced anyone to buy them.

    2. Re:WTF? by alienw · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Nope. Exactly the opposite. Downloading might be considered legal in some jurisdictions (after all, you can't be reasonably sure the file is copyrighted before you download it -- or maybe you accidentally clicked on the link).

      However, making stuff available for download is definitely illegal. If you upload a copy of Photoshop to your server and post a link, who do you think would be prosecuted? Hint: it's exactly what is done by warez groups.

    3. Re:WTF? by Arker · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'd be REALLY surprised if as much as 0.05% of the downloads were by people who have a legal right to the files, and it's not the point anyway.

      Oh I agree. The point, in this particular case, is simply that they are effectively exercising police powers without being subject to police rules, and without being expected to actually prove their case.

      As to how many current downloaders have legal rights to their files, I wouldn't hazard a guess. I agree it's probably low. The RIAA still should have to bear the burden of proof in any individual case, however, something they're managing to evade.

      The point is whether it's legitimate to keep the current content distribution channels as they are.

      And I disagree. I think a far more free market is called for, and that the regulation that keeps distribution channels that have long since become obsolete alive are a travesty, practiced simply to ensure the rich (the RIAA in this case) will never have to work to get 'their' money out of the rest of the population again. It's corporate welfare, and the RIAA are some of the biggest hoes out there.

      and let the market decide.

      The market has already decided. The RIAA doesn't like that decision, that's why they're buying congressmen and judges now.

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  14. 2 Ways to tell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    1. Breathe on to some glass. Does the glass fog up?

    2. Place your fingertips on your neck just below the corner of the jawline. Do you feel a beating often associated with a lubdub sound?

    If you answer yes to either of these tests, the RIAA wants you!

  15. Exclusive! by jez9999 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Revealed! The algorithm for the online RIAA check form:

    output = "";
    username = ENV("uname");
    if username {
    output = "You are wanted by the RIAA. Please report to your local police station and turn yourself in.";
    }
    print "<HTML>";
    print output;
    print "</HTML>";

  16. Re:Curious point on what /. readers consider right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They are supoenaing (sp?) the details of those people who they have identified as being infringing, which is EXACTLY what people on this forum have been saying they should do.

    Yes, and a subpoena before this RIAA crap was something that could only be court ordered, not something a company or corporation could do just out of the blue. That is what's shitting people. It's giving law enforcement rights to a body that is NOT a law enforcement agency. The "slippery slope" thing here is what worries me. How small a change would it take before the RIAA is given not only the right to subpoena an ISP for names of users who they suspect of filesharing, but to send out fines without running through proper legal channels?

    There are philosophical links to PayPal here. It's not a bank and is not under the same regulatory controls as banks, yet it acts as one and gets the benefits of being one. the RIAA is not a law enforcement agency and is not under the same regulatory controls as one, yet it acts as one.

  17. Small world by Pac · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The last "A" is RIAA stands for America. While the Americans are still the majority of the Internet users, it is changing quickly as more and more contries get their telecom act together.

    RIAA can't subpoena Chinese, French or Russian users. And it is not even very clear if RIAA's sister organisations in their respective countries can, because laws are different over there (remember Sklyarov and how PDF encryption breaking is legal in Russia?).

    So, I guess Americans can safely disable their shares and let the world feed the networks for a while. When RIAA comes to town in Australia, for instance, we do it the other way around.

    1. Re:Small world by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 3, Funny
      The last "A" is RIAA stands for America. While the Americans are still the majority of the Internet users, it is changing quickly as more and more contries get their telecom act together.
      Luckily, Canada is not in America!!!
    2. Re:Small world by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Americans are not the majority of internet users, by any stretch of the imagination: http://www.koehler-visuals.com/countries_online.ht m.

      What source did you base your comment on? Of were you just making up facts?

    3. Re:Small world by Luigi30 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Canada's the expansion pack for America.

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    4. Re:Small world by Zemran · · Score: 4, Interesting

      There are a lot of us that are happy to stay in the free world. I have spent enough time in the US and although there is a lot I like, if they want to export their crazy legal system then I have no need to go there again.

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    5. Re:Small world by gilesjuk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Exactly, your punishment/judgement for commiting a crime should be carried out in the country where you were residing at that moment in time.

      So if you crack some encryption method in Europe then go to the US what's business is it of theirs? the current system is just a way for the US to punish citizens of countries with weak laws.

    6. Re:Small world by DeepRedux · · Score: 4, Interesting
      The law does give a copyright holder the ability to get a court order forcing ISPs in the US to block access to foreign sites violating a US copyright.

      I think that there are only a handful of Tier-1 providers (UUNet, etc.) that actually provide connectivity between the US and Europe or Asia, and other ISPs buy connectivity from them. What if the RIAA were to find a few hundred P2P servers in Europe and Asia and order UUNet, etc., to block access to them? It may wreck connectivity and UUNet may fight it, but the law seems pretty clear and UUNet would most likely lose.

      The part of the DMCA authorizing this: Title 17 section 512 (j)(1)(B)(ii)

      An order restraining the service provider from providing access, by taking reasonable steps specified in the order to block access, to a specific, identified, online location outside the United States.
      The "specific, identified, online location" could be just an IP address at which the RIAA has found a P2P server running.
    7. Re:Small world by Dark+Lord+Seth · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Funny, I remember hearing on the duthc news about US law enforcements agencies being allowed to arrest dutch citizens on dutch soil and prosecute them in the US. Or US agencies enforcing extreme cargo checking in the port of Rotterdam (which is one of the biggest ports in the world, if not THE biggest) and the fact dutch airline agencies have to report ALL US bound passengers and their data to US agencies. All this under the "protection against terrorism" while the dutch goverment bends over and dutyfully takes it up the arse under the motto of "But our economy needs a trade impulse.".

      Jesus, I'm going to need a weapon to defend myself against my own goddamn goverment. So this is how it feels to live in a US controlled puppet-state. Remember people, all this happened in a nice "hush hush" way, so I wouldn't be TOO surprised if the same applies in several countries where the officials seem to be Bush's puppets, Like the United Kingdom, Spain and maybe Australia. In fact, I think our prime ministers wished he was with Bush, Blair and Aznar on the pro-economic war on Iraq, except the whole ensemble would look silly with a trigger-happy cowboy, someone who appears to come straight from a Monty Python sketch, Don Quixote and Harry Potter. That and the dutch armed forces have a history of helping serbian nationalists with genocide. (Remember Srebrenica? We do, hence why the goverment doesn't DARE to put dutch armed forces into a combat situation.)

    8. Re:Small world by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Bad news: The Australian Record Industry Association (ARIA) has already started down the same road.

      In case you hadn't noticed, the major record labels are all multinationals, so they are doing their best to enforce copyright regulations wherever the laws are strong enough. They started with America because the laws are some of the strongest (thanks to your government for the highest bidder system), and the US is probably the largest source of shared files (no, I don't have statistics to back this up).

      Besides, what makes you think that the RIAA, having set up the monitoring system, are ever going to stop going after large traders?

  18. Define Piracy by bubbazanetti · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Theft is wrong...it hurts everyone eventually.

    BUT

    I have a record album of Police Syncronisity (I know I spelt it wrong) and ACDC For those about to Rock. Both of those have unplayable first tracks on both sides...do to poor pressing/materials...they are warped.

    I don't have a LP player in my car...infact I only have one in the house for the purpose of putting songs to CD.

    So Riddle me this Batman...How am I supposed to get a copy of those 4 tracks that are unplayable on the albums?

    Am I a pirate if I download those 4 songs to replace the ones I cannot play?...is the uploader a pirate for allowing me to get those 4 songs that I already paid for but cannot use?

    I think the RIAA wants me to buy a few more albums/CDs/cassettes of the same recording so that I won't be a pirate...

    OOOh but what if I get the clearance cutouts recordings at the discount store...or CDs at the pawn shop that are cheap because they don't pay any royalties...hmmm...am I a pirate then?

    1. Re:Define Piracy by GigsVT · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Does anyone have a definitive answer on that?

      Yes, see the mp3.com lawsuit. Even though the downloaders arguably owned a copy of the CDs that MP3.com was making available for download through their service, it was still infringement for MP3.com to make their copy of the exact same data available to the downloaders from their own CDs.

      Of course, the check that the downloader owned the CD was weak, since you could borrow the CD and then "prove" to the service that you owned it, but I don't think they lost on those grounds, I think it was the more fundamental issue that even though you own a byte-for-byte copy of a work, it doesn't give you the right to download the same work, or give anyone else the right to make that work available for you to get.

      Then again, MP3.com's lawyers gave really lame defenses, such as Fair Use, which have nothing to do with duplicating complete copies of a work.

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  19. Re:Curious point on what /. readers consider right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    > Uhm, they are using the legal system IN THE WAY THE
    > LEGAL SYSTEM WAS MEANT TO BE USED.

    No. the RIAA is not using the legal system at all and that is what's highly questionable. It is now able to bypass the legal system and directly order subpoenas by itself. That is inherently dangerous when a corporation who stands to benefit from legal action has been given the legal right to bring action against whoever THEY suspect, WITHOUT going through all the correct channels of the legal system that has existed in this country for hundreds of years.

  20. It's simple, really... by SIGBUS · · Score: 4, Informative

    Download and share music that can be legitimately shared. Frankly, I'm so pissed off at the media cartel that I don't want to even bother pirating their products, let alone buy them. Even commercial radio stations thoroughly suck these days.

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    1. Re:It's simple, really... by smcn · · Score: 2, Informative

      This site also contains links for a bunch of sites where you can get freely distributable music.

      And don't forget you can also buy non-RIAA music.

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  21. Well here's a way I've heard of... by Kjella · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...which of course I don't know anything about personally *cough*.

    1. Make your private server.... just you and your friends, people with broadband connections. Say 30 people with 1-200gb each = 3-6tb.

    2. Download new stuff from public networks, but never be a big sharer, just one among the huge crowd of small traders.

    3. Relax and realize the chance of getting into trouble is slim and none.

    While the RIAA/MPAA might be moderately successful in cracking down on public networks, the network of friends they'll never manage to stop...

    Kjella

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  22. Re:ooh ooh I know! by fmaxwell · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Stop pirating music assholes. D'uh.

    Why? Why should I be able to record a song off of the radio but not off of another person's hard drive? Why should I not be able to share an out-of-print, but still copyrighted, piece of music? You act like pirating music is some heinous, horrible, despicable act. It's not. People have been trading cassettes, loaning albums, and letting their friends borrow CDs for years. They've been making "mix tapes" for their friends. They've been taping their friends' records. It's normal and healthy.

    The entire copyright bullshit is infuriating. Were there not extension after extension granted by Congress, much of the copyrighted material that's out there would now be in the public domain -- as the founding fathers (of the U.S.) intended. Instead, legislation has been bought by the record companies so that they can continue to collect their ill-gotten gains for years.

    As to your "asshole" remark, bite me.

  23. Link to the "munkyspanker21" Subpoena by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Here is a link to the subpoena issued for "munkyspanker21@KaZaA."

    Note that this particular subpoena was sent to Time Warner. That means that although AOL users were conspicuously missing from the subpoenas so far, Time Warner Cable/RoadRunner users are being hunted down.

    In the previous story there was some speculation that since Time Warner has interest in RIAA their customers might be off the hook... Doesn't look that way.

  24. Re:Great remedies by bentcd · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Well until mankind phases out money, what incentive is there to make music if any joe-blow can pirate it and not pay a dime?

    Copyright isn't the only way to promote the production of art. At least one other method - sponsorship - has been engaged in with some success in history, and one other method - grants - is continuously being employed in large parts of the world today. The former will tend to end up producing works that are desired by the sponsor and the latter will tend to be used to finance works that don't have broad consumer appeal.

    Art forms that lend themselves to performance can make their profits from performance alone. Recorded copies can then be public domain. This applies very well to music.

    Art forms that produce items that are still difficult to copy (painting, sculpting) won't be much affected by loss of copyright.

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  25. Some user names found on on RIAA Pirate List by AtariAmarok · · Score: 4, Funny

    robandfab@millivanilli.com (Getting material for that new album)

    captainjack@caribbean.pirates.org (If yer gonna be a pirate, expect to show up on such lists)

    hrosen@riaa.org (oops!)

    uday@saddam.iq, qusai@saddam.iq (now we know why they had to bomb that house!)

    senatorhatch@senate.gov

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  26. Has anyone tested false positives? by mindslip · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Specifically,

    Has anyone loaded up a server with dummy files 3 or 4 mb in size, but with the same filenames as ones commonly shared by the "wanted" users?

    I'd love to know if the RIAA is actually *checking* what's going around, or just jumping up and down pointing and going "Oooh! Ooh! Him! He's got a naughty file up for grabs!!"

    mindslip

  27. Re:It's been said before by ivan256 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    noone is going to buy more licensed music because of their efforts.

    The target of these lawsuits isn't really the defendants, it's the US Congress. The RIAA is trying to get noticed in a way that will encourage congress to pass a law that will ensure they can continue to make money in the distribution business. The lawsuits are just a tool to make their blip on lawmakers radar screens bigger.

    Piracy or no, the service that the RIAA members perform is obsolete, and without some prop to hold them up they will slowly loose revenue as artists choose alternative (and increasingly more profitable and effective) distribution methods, and listeners choose a more convienient channel. As you correctly point out, ending piracy will just postpone the inevetable. Let's not get so distracted by these petty suits that we let worse legislation than the DMCA get passed.

  28. For all you named www.k-lite.tk_Kazaa_Lite@kazaa by SuperCal · · Score: 2, Interesting

    No need to worry, unless your ISP is comcast. The court documents doesn't list a name, unlike some of the other user names, but only the ISP.

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  29. Whew! by Lothar+0 · · Score: 2, Funny

    RIAA_can_lick_my_sweaty_balls@KaZaa doesn't match. Safe for now!

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  30. Make a Honeypot for the RIAA.... by jjh37997 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Want to make some money, here's all you have to do:

    Step 1: Buy a computer
    Step 2: Use the P2P program of your choice
    Step 3: Take a bunch of files that *YOU* have the copyright for or that are in the public domain and share them to the world.
    Step 4: Make sure a few files are named something like b-spears.mp3, metallica,mp3 or harlanellison.doc.
    Step 5: Document everything!
    Step 6: Wait to get sued.
    Step 7: Legal stuff
    Step 8: Profit!

  31. Re:Honest mistake, perhaps? (and it's better yet) by moonbender · · Score: 2, Informative

    Incidently, those numbers are from the end of 2001, grossly outdated in the Internet context. Here's a more up-to-date (for the most part) and way more elaborate list from the 2002 CIA factbook. It's also apparently more conservative, since the numbers quoted for the USA and Germany are both lower, significantly so for the USA (165 instead 185 millions). I doubt the number of users has fallen in either country in the last two years...

    Anyway, it's fairly save to say that if every American user turned off the file sharing option, it'd have a tremendous effect on the global filesharing equations, even if there are more European than American nodes[1]. Also Europe seems to be heading a similar route with the EUCD - which would leave the Asian nodes.

    [1] Which isn't necessarily true - there probably are more or less P2P users per 1000 Internet users in Europe than in the USA. Interesting question actually ... I'd wager that copyright violation is more common here than in the USA, at least that's the impression I sometimes get from Internet boards: I've seen lots of youths and young people who say copyright violation is wrong (and act accordingly), while I don't think I've met any German computer user under the age of 25 who does not, on occasion, commit thought theft. On the other hand, broadband Internet access and flat fee services used to be rare around here, although that's gotten better to a point where I assume (I'm sure there's data) broadband usage is on about the same level as in the USA.

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  32. Sturgeon's law by gad_zuki! · · Score: 5, Informative
    >The vast majority of independent music, games, and applications are sadly lacking in quality.

    Sturgeon's Law /prov./ "Ninety percent of everything is crap". Derived from a quote by science fiction author Theodore Sturgeon, who once said, "Sure, 90% of science fiction is crud. That's because 90% of everything is crud."


    I personally listen to almost 100% indie music and find that its harder to find good RIAA artists/songs than it is to find good indie artists. Certainly per capita the RIAA loses and badly.

    You can try this site if you're new to indie music, indie rock in particular. They also have 128kbs streaming MP3s. Or you can pay a visit to a couple of the bigger and more popular indie labels like Matador or Jade Tree.

    Yeah, its tough finding good indie music, but that's only because the RIAA and Clearchannel monopolies make it so. If you put in a little effort you might be surprised at what you find.

    I hope the indie labels exploit these damn lawsuits to increase their profile amongst music lovers.
    1. Re:Sturgeon's law by Alan+Cox · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Almost all the music I listen to is from non mainstream labels - thats mostly because thats where all the good music is nowdays. Its a lot harder to find but its out there and many of these bands are not just local outfits but just not publicised by the music cartel.

      Show of Hands for example won't be found on any RIAA list but they play the Albert Hall in the UK each year, which is not a small or cheap venue. This year they are playing the Eden Project with a load of other bands.

      Some of the sounds and styles also just don't exist in the RIAAdom, hop over to www.machinaesupremacy.com and find out what happens when rock and computer game music collide.

      Certainly in the UK nowdays if you want to hear decent music, turn off the radio, turn off MTV and go down the pub. or go to some music festivals that have non "mainstream" bands. Much of the music is very good and for the stuff that isnt tbe beer at festivals is almost always excellent.

  33. Some incentives for public domain art. by UserGoogol · · Score: 2, Interesting

    1) The desire for fame.
    2) The desire to make good Music "just for fun."
    3) Music for contract. Like an ad, for instance. I can't see why companies would mind an ad being copied endlessly.
    4) Writing for performances. You can copy a song, but you can't copy a concert.

    Copyright Law does have a place, though. I'll give you that. (It's got some incredible flaws, but it has a place.)

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  34. MySQL by Fuzzums · · Score: 2, Insightful

    INSERT INTO have_to_sue VALUES $handle_entered_by_user;

    what a great way to collect more handles for people to sue. use a cron job to see what they share and file the complaints.

    easy as onehundredtwentythree...

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  35. A Modest Proposal: The Music Worm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The RIAA's fight against music sharing is becoming increasingly desperate, their current tactics are to seek legislation that elevates music sharing from a civil to a criminal offense (thereby obtaining a taxpayer subsidy for the pursuit of users), while attempting to prosecute individual users (or their parents, if they are underage). Basically, these tactics are based upon the "war against drugs," which has had moderate success. But in the case of music sharing, the RIAA's tactics are doomed to failure. Why? Because there will ultimately be a "killer application"--the music worm.

    How will the music worm work?

    It will be distributed as an email worm. The user installs it by clicking on an attachment that arrives in an email spam. A large number people will do this knowingly, but many will be innocent "victims". Knowing users will thus have "plausible deniability".

    Once installed, it will do the following:

    1) Email itself to everybody in the user's address book, just like any other worm.

    2) Install a hidden peer-to-peer server.

    3) Identify every music file on the users computer.

    4) Make all of them available over the web via peer-to-peer sharing.

    5) Begin silently and automatically downloading music files to the user's computer and adding them to his music library, favoring additional titles by artists already represented in the user's library.

    6) An internal list will of the downloaded files, and the worm will monitor their usage. Any downloaded file that is not played within a certain period of time will be marked for eventual replacement, in order to prevent the music archive from growing too large (say 20% above the size of the permanent library or 80% of available disk space, whichever is smaller). Any file that is played will be deleted from this list and permanently added to the user's music library. 7) Knowing users will be able to "order" specific music via a web interface by accessing a web site (actually located on the user's computer) via a web browser. The worm will silently edit the browser's history file to erase the record of this access.

    How could such a worm be combatted?

    1. Legal assaults on users would become difficult; there will be continuous trading of music over the net. Much of it will be entirely innocent; the result of the worm running on the computers of innocent "victims." This will provide a smokescreen for the activities of knowing users. It will be extremely difficult to prove that somebody is a knowing user, since the patterns of download to any individual user will be similar to knowing use. Many unknowing victims will accidentally add some of the downloaded music to their permanent libraries, because a lot of people do not keep careful track of the contents of their music libraries.

    2. Virus scanning and firewall software could be employed, but many users do not keep their protective software up to date. Attempts to eradicate similar worms employed by spammers have not been particularly effective. And with the music worm case, many of the "victims" would actually be secret users, intentionally abetting the worm's presence on their computers.

    3. The RIAA could distribute counter-worms, which would infect computers and delete music, or gather evidence of intentional trading. However, this would require the music industry itself to engage in an ongoing illegal activity. Moreover, it would be relatively unsuccessful in targeting the technically sophisticated knowing user, who would have a strong incentive to block such worms.

  36. Re:Curious point on what /. readers consider right by Richard_at_work · · Score: 2, Informative

    Ok, in reply to you and the other replies to my comment, i have this quote:

    "The following user names were culled from subpoenas filed with the US District Court in Washington, DC." (taken from here which was reference in this slashdot story)

    As you can see, the subpoenas were files WITH A COURT. Therefor the RIAA was asking the court to enforce the subpaenos, as happens whenever someone wants to issue a subpoena!

    So, lets see, in this case the RIAA hasnt done anything extra legal, non legal, or unlegal. They went through the courts. Hence, they ARE USING THE LEGAL SYSTEM AS ITS MEANT TO BE USED.

  37. Bentley College Warning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Dear Students, Faculty and Staff:

    I am writing to you about a problem that has many of us at the college deeply concerned. You may be aware that four Bentley students are the subject of subpoenas served by the Recording Industry Association of America which is seeking financial damages for illegally downloaded and shared music files. According to The Boston Globe, the RIAA has filed at least 871 subpoenas this month. These students now face legal action and potentially significant fines.

    We have every reason to believe that the RIAA will not stop here. Every person who downloads or shares music, video or software in a fashion that violates copyrights is breaking the law and is subject to fines of up to $150,000 for each violation.

    All of us know that file sharing and downloading are commonplace; all of us are familiar with the argument that "everyone does it." But the copyright violations that so often accompany these activities are illegal and now the industry whose copyrights are being violated is responding aggressively.

    Please recognize that everyone using our campus computer network who engages in this form of file sharing and downloading is violating Bentley College policies, breaking the law and exposing themselves to potential action by the RIAA.

    Effective this morning, the college has temporarily eliminated all bandwidth associated with the following file sharing applications:

    aimster audiogalaxy edonkey gnutella
    hotline imesh KaZaA napster
    scoutexchange blubster

    If you have downloaded any of the above applications on your computer, we urge you to delete them immediately.

    In September, we will launch a campus-wide discussion about appropriate longer term approaches to what is a serious legal and ethical issue.

    Sincerely,

    President

  38. I was looking for my username by aztektum · · Score: 2, Interesting

    But I don't see kazaauser@kazaa.com on there

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    1. Re:I was looking for my username by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      I didn't see a KazaaLiteUser@Kazaa either.

      I did find a mike@Kazaa. The subpoena lists NINE copyrighted songs that his copy of Kazaa offered for download from his computer. That's like 2/3 of a CD. Keith Epstein, head of Mike's ISP, has to make the painful decision of whether or not to fight the subpoena.

      It should be noted that the lawyer who sent the subpoena, Yvette Molinaro, is expecting email replies from the ISPs to dmca@msk.com, or phone calls to (310) 312-3297. This is all information in the public domain. I'm just pointing stuff out.

  39. Sure RIAA/MPAA can sue foreign people! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting
    RIAA can't subpoena Chinese, French or Russian users.

    Of course they can. With a little help from their copyright-affiliates in the said countries.

    Every western country has a RIAA/MPAA equivalent and they dance to the tune of those who represent the largest media corporations: RIAA and MPAA.

    I do not live in the US, but I received a cease and desist letter from US attorneys for breaking the DMCA by sharing deCSS code on my foreign server. Recently I have been probed and DoSed (one of my IPs is still being DoSed by malformed packets to port 1214; my ISP is investigating the matter) by sites that I strongly suspect are a part of the MPAA/RIAA campaign ("we'll sue thousands") that began in June. I fully expect to receive a cease and desist, or even a subpoena, from the local copyright fascists for sharing my files.

  40. Re:Curious point on what /. readers consider right by evilviper · · Score: 3, Interesting
    As you can see, the subpoenas were files WITH A COURT

    The big huff is that they only have to file them with a measly clerk. There is no judical oversight. If that's what you call "file[d] WITH A COURT", then I've got some great "advice FROM A MAJOR STOCK FIRM"... That advice will be from the secretary, or possibly a janitor, but that's good enough according to you...

    RIAA hasnt done anything extra legal, non legal, or unlegal.

    Nothing is illegial if it gets legalized... The DMCA and other such laws made this possible, but it should not be allowed. It's not strictly illegial, as congress passed the law, and the courts have upheld it so far, but it certainly violates many rights that Americans are accustomed to.

    they ARE USING THE LEGAL SYSTEM AS ITS MEANT TO BE USED.

    No, the founders of the USA did not mean for the legal system to be used to take away the life-savings of college students, just for sharing 3 MP3 files... Another case where congress' actions are in conflict with the constitution is copyright law, which is now being infinitely extended, even though that is explicitly disallowed. Since the congress decided that they can do that, does that make it right, or okay? Most rational people don't believe so...
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  41. Re:But it is still theft by vegetablespork · · Score: 2, Informative

    You're in error, at least in the U.S. The No Electronic Theft Act clearly covers copyright infringement as a criminal violation:

    [*2] SEC. 2. CRIMINAL INFRINGEMENT OF COPYRIGHTS.

    (a) DEFINITION OF FINANCIAL GAIN- Section 101 of title 17, United States Code, is amended by inserting after the undesignated paragraph relating to the term 'display', the following new paragraph:

    "The term 'financial gain' includes receipt, or expectation of receipt, of anything of value, including the receipt of other copyrighted works.'.

    (b) CRIMINAL OFFENSES- Section 506(a) of title 17, United States Code, is amended to read as follows:

    (a) CRIMINAL INFRINGEMENT- Any person who infringes a copyright willfully either--

    "(1) for purposes of commercial advantage or private financial gain, or

    "(2) by the reproduction or distribution, including by electronic means, during any 180-day period, of 1 or more copies or phonorecords of 1 or more copyrighted works, which have a total retail value of more than $ 1,000 shall be punished as provided under section 2319 of title 18, United States Code. For purposes of this subsection, evidence of reproduction or distribution of a copyrighted work, by itself, shall not be sufficient to establish willful infringement.'.

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  42. Re:why can't they just list the names? by garymm · · Score: 3, Informative

    somebody else already did. it's more efficient not to have to look through all of them though.

  43. An idea for those who want free music... by hiryuu · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There are a lot of people (I won't say a majority, the proportion is a point not worth arguing) using P2P simply because they want free music. For those people, I have a suggestion - one that's legal and significantly socially healthier than hiding indoors and playing Russian roulette with the RIAA's lawyers.

    Find your local music scene.

    Find out which clubs or bars in your town (or a nearby metro area) host live music - many do on the weekends, some do several times a week. Check the local papers for lists of such places, or activities like festivals, open-air concerts, park celebrations, etc. Ask around, check with your friends, neighbors, people at the local watering hole. Hell, take a walk through a noisy section of town sometime on a Friday night and listen to hear which places sound like they've got a band going.

    For a small cover (or free, depending) at most of these places, you can get in, hang out with friends, have a few beers, talk to members of your-preferred-gender, and listen to the artists up close and personal. You might be listening to some neo-punk band of sixteen-year-olds. You might catch a really great jazz set. You might hear some grizzled-looking blue-collar fellas playing some mighty fine blues. You might dance to some eighties cover band.

    And - here's the part for those interested in free music - a lot of these bands sell their CDs very cheap, and many give them away for free! Sometimes, musicians that aren't even performing will show up just to hand out some CDs of their stuff, to try and get some exposure.

    Expand your horizons, get out of your house, have a social experience, spend time with friends, and get free/cheap music, all for little investment - plus, you get to support homegrown talent, instead of manufactured "talent". How can you go wrong?

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  44. Re:Curious point on what /. readers consider right by moncyb · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm pissed at the RIAA because they are abusing the legal process. This is all obviously FUD so they can shut down any competition and steal money from everyone (through media/internet/computer "royalties"--really taxes)--including those who don't want anything to do with their "products."

    It's sad to see the EFF has joined their cause:

    • P2P Subscriptions: Not everyone uses P2P systems to download the RIAA's crap music, so why should they be forced to pay?
    • Bandwidth Levies: Why should I pay the RIAA so I can have internet access??? I don't download their shit.
    • Media Tariffs: The US already does this, and I am pissed. I've never used my CD burner to infringe copyrights, yet every time I burn a disk or buy a drive, I have to pay the terrorists money?

  45. Re:why can't they just list the names? by Fred+Ferrigno · · Score: 2, Insightful

    www.k_lite.tk_Kazaa_Lite@Kazaa

    Uhm, that seems a lot like the default username for Kazaa lite, which would be the same for hundreds of lazy users. Same goes for "Jim", "Jeff" and "Jessica". Good luck proving which jim@Kazaa was sharing copyrighted music.

  46. A novel idea... by softspokenrevolution · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Copyright law is designed so that the originators of creative works can derive compensation from those works, right? No, the recording industry likes to take 90% of artist proceeds and stuff it into some hole and now wants to put a greater lean onto touring revenue.

    The RIAA is of course whining about how it isn't gettin gits fair share of cash for these songs that are being downloaded. Now, the RIAA for the most part, has nothing to do with the creative process, and those corporate bands/singers that are puppets, can't really be called creative (say hi Justin) by any real stretch.

    In essence, by swapping files we take money away from the RIAA (money that it really didn't deserve to have in the first place, but that's just an editorial aside), and then the RIAA takes away more money from the artists.

    Here's a simple solution, let the artists sue the RIAA for getting continually raped and having this crusade carried out in their name. I'm sure that any number of artists down on their luck would like their fifty million dollars from their platinum album back from the RIAA. They are the originators of the creative content and are thus in charge of the copyright (unless they were stupid with their contracts), it should be the decision of the artist who gets their money and who gets to be compensated for money lost from file downloading.

    Hopefully the artists aren't totally stupid and just keep the suits to the RIAA, because suing their fans would be very much counterproductive (after all, would you buy a band's cd if they were in the middle of litigation with you). Just a thought.

  47. Peer to Peer Networks for Legal Music by MichaelCrawford · · Score: 2, Interesting
    You can avoid getting sued or arrested if you download legal music instead of violating copyright with p2p apps. Many independent and unsigned musicians provide free downloads of their music as a way to promote themselves, for example my friends the Divine Maggees.

    There are peer to peer networks for the sharing of legal music. In some cases they use digital signatures to ensure the files are legit. Here's the ones I've found so far:

    If you know of any others please let me know.

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  48. I'm afraid you're quite sorely mistaken by MichaelCrawford · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I'd wager that most people know exactly what they're doing with Kazaa, rendering this meager info page utterly useless.

    The reason I wrote this article was that a friend quite seriously told me that the money she paid to purchase Kazaa went to compensate the musicians whose music she was downloading. She had no idea she was violating anyone's copyright. I suspect people like her are not uncommon among p2p users.

    Other slashdot users have repeatedly mentioned that their less computer literate siblings and friends who use p2p were quite unaware that any of the songs they downloaded were immediately made available for sharing. While you can usually disable this, most of the p2p apps are configured to automatically share by default, and I don't think they always make an effort to inform the user of that fact, or of its legal implications.

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  49. Re:Mirror of article on how to avoid a RIAA lawsui by Zigg · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Hear, hear.

    Not passing around copyrighted material that you don't have a license to copy seems to me to be a rather foolproof way to avoid getting sued. I know I don't have that particular worry.

    However, I do have quite the worry that the continued insistence of the freeloaders that they're not doing anything wrong serves only to inflame the whole issue, and then I do have to worry about things like DRM obstructing real fair use, attacks on my online anonymity, and the legal machine suffocating legitimate P2P uses in the cradle out of fear.

    I suppose that's what really bothers me about this whole music "sharing" thing. If people really feel so strongly that the very idea of copyright is immoral, maybe it's time they got the Constitution amended to that effect.

  50. How to tell if the RIAA wants you? by Lost+Penguin · · Score: 2, Funny

    Do you have a pulse?

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  51. Jeopardy: by NiTRiX · · Score: 2, Funny

    The Smart One: I'll take "Things you should know" for 200.

    Alec: Since the beginning of time, this specific method was used to avoid being prosecuted by others.

    The Smart One: What is not breaking the law?

    Alec: Correct.


    The Smart One: I'll take "Things you should know" for 400.

    Alec: The 20th century is marked by the loss of this great leader and moral officer, which dawned an era of weak men and scared little boys who cried out for some sort of empathetic revenge due to their faces being barried in a surealistic existence, one which their brains try to forcefully merge with reality.

    The Smart One: What is "Responsibility, son of Accountability"?

    Alec: Correct. No.. wait.. someone is complaining, that must mean we are in the wrong. Okay, whoever said that our show is against constitutional rights, that's just not funny!

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  52. Thought Theft by solprovider · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Ouch! Stop him! He stole my thought. Make him give it back.

    Cool concept. Reminds me of the book "Deathkiller". Or it could be something spies use: steal his thoughts and wipe his brain, although I always figured killing was much easier than wiping a mind.

    We all reuse thoughts, and it rarely hurts anyone. I may use the phrase "thought theft" in a song. You may never hear the song, and my reuse won't hurt you. Thousands of people may share my songs on P2P networks, and that is good for me:
    1. People are listening to my songs.
    2. People are being injected with my ideas.
    3. People will pay to see me play the songs.
    4. People may order my CD. Yes, CDs are almost obsolete, but they are still a good method for those who do not have high bandwidth to transfer music without losing quality.
    5. I will get paid for being on late night television, and have cameos in movies and maybe start an acting career doing commercials, and write a book, and write a column in a magazine like John Mayer telling how he wrote a song that nobody wants to hear while travelling between famous people's houses. And that is what dreams are made of.

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    Now the benefits all go to corporations for a period of time formerly known as limited. Yes, they still expire, but I will not live to see the copyrights expire on works that were created by people that were dead before I was born. I do not have the legal ability to derive new creations from the work of the greats. The original copyright had a maximum of 28 years. That means people should be able to reuse the entire Beatles catalog without legal hassles. (Someone once said they wrote every song. Does that mean noone can create anything new? That explains today's popular music.)

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