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Wrestler Maxx Payne Sues Game Publisher

Ryan Barrett writes "The Associated Press reports that retired WCW wrestler, actor, and voice actor Maxx Payne is suing a group of game developers and publishers over the game Max Payne. In Payne's words, "I left wrestling to come home to Utah and be with my family and I find myself in the biggest battle of my life - to save my identity." This raises an interesting question: in most cases like this, we Slashdotters are quick to speak out in Payne's defense. But when the big bad corporations are game developers, do we still take the little guy's side?" Is this suit exposing a genuine rip-off, or is it just a naming coincidence?

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  1. Disclaimer? by Joff_NZ · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I don't know.. I haven't looked at Max Payne in a while, but doesn't it include a "Not based on real persons living or dead" type disclaimer in it? Such things have been on the credits of movies and TV shows for as long as I can remember...

    Perhaps its needed for games now, to avoid lawsuits like this?

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    1. Re:Disclaimer? by Sentry21 · · Score: 4, Funny

      The difference is that movies and TV shows accurately represent real life. For example, the only people who get killed in wartime are people who show pictures of their sweethearts back home, detectives always need to visit strip clubs during every investigation, and in every set of identical twins, one is always evil. This is why it's necessary to specifically say that the stories are fictional.

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  2. Took him a while by RQuinn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If the game has done so much to steal his identity, then why has he waited two years since the game was released to sue?

    Hate to say it but my instinct says he probably saw the marketing push for the sequel and thought "Hey they're putting a lot of money into this... I should get my hands on some of it"

    1. Re:Took him a while by Guppy06 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      " If the game has done so much to steal his identity, then why has he waited two years since the game was released to sue?"

      Maybe because he's not a gamer and doesn't spend a few hours a week perusing on-line reviews or looking at what the local EB is selling?

    2. Re:Took him a while by Enrico+Pulatzo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No, but if their lawyers are any good, they would have done their homework to know that the name "Max Payne" was pretty close to something someone else is/was using.

  3. oooh yeee-ah! by Rhinobird · · Score: 4, Funny

    I will crush you peetiful geeks with my fearsome lawsuit. How DAAAREE you steal my name for your pathetic excuse of a game. I will take back what is mine and spread your crushed and dessicated remains before me.

    OOOOHHH YEE-AHH!

    (wrong wrestler, but it's what came to mind...)

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  4. Huh? by chendo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I thought it was named Max Payne for Max Pain...

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  5. I doubt it was intentional by PurpleFloyd · · Score: 4, Insightful
    It's just a really obvious pun, folks. Obvious enough that both a pro wrestler and game developers could come up with the name simeltaneously.

    As for the wrestler Mr. Payne, he might have had a case if he hadn't waited so damned long. I find it amazing that he didn't at least hear from someone something along the lines of, "Hey, I saw a videogame that had your old stage name on it! Cool, huh?"

    Even if he managed to not hear about it until now, you have to actively defend trademarks if you want to keep them. This means doing a modicum of research on your trademark - Googling it every month or so might not be a bad idea. He definatly would have had a case if he'd gone to the publishers before the game went gold, he might have had a (somewhat shaky) case if he sued right after the game hit shelves, but he doesn't have much of one now.

    Finally, I don't see how he is in a "battle to save [his] identity." Most people can discriminate between a pro wrestler and a game character; the hypothetical "reasonable person" appealed to so often in court cases like this one certainly could. Sorry, Mr. Payne, you ain't getting squat.

    Note: I'm not a lawyer, this isn't legal advice, contact a lawyer in your jurisdiction, you know the deal.

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    1. Re:I doubt it was intentional by DrWho520 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Most people can discriminate between a pro wrestler and a game character; the hypothetical "reasonable person" appealed to so often in court cases like this one certainly could.

      You would think so, but people apparently cannot determine the difference between a buch of wrestlers and a bunch of pandas.

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    2. Re:I doubt it was intentional by platipusrc · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The primary reason the wrestlers lost that case was because they foolishly signed a settlement to get them out of court in 1994. The settlement limited the current WWE's ability to use the WWF mark outside of the United States. If they had not settled and had gone to court instead, they probably would have won, and would still be the WWF (World Wrestling Federation).

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  6. Re:and this guy was christened maxxx payne? by cyb97 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Well Jello Biafra was certainly pissed when california ruled that he wasn't allowed to run for mayor under his alias "Jello Biafra" and had to use his real name...

    For some people, their alias is what they're known by and might be just as important as their real name... Afterall it's what everybody know you as that count, if you ask me...

  7. This is ridiculous... by dmayle · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Stolen Identity? When was the last time a videogame created a fake driver's license or some credit cards?

    This is no different than if some prostitute in a Duke Nukem game was named "Lolly Pop", and an ex-employee of the Bunny Ranch sued to make some extra cash. Max Payne is fairly high up on the list of obvious names for an action star.

  8. Ask Spike Lee! by drdink · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm sure Spike Lee would side with him. After all, when Viacom decided to rename TNN to "SpikeTV", I know the first thing I thought was "Wow! Spike Lee is getting a TV channel named after him! Cool!!! The first network entirely for black filmmakers!" Oh wait, no I didn't. God, this is getting lame.

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    1. Re:Ask Spike Lee! by ralphus · · Score: 5, Informative
      Spike Lee actually took issue with the name SpikeTV and sued and then settled.

      I wonder how Spike Jonze feels about this...

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  9. I want to do this too by syrinx · · Score: 4, Funny

    There's a book I saw last time I was in a bookstore called "We Need To Talk About Kevin". Obviously, the author is stealing my name. I'm going to sue the author, the publisher, the bookstore, and maybe McDonald's too, just out of general principle.

    Lawsuits, they're the American way.

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  10. They should change his name to Max Power by Cobralisk · · Score: 5, Funny

    "I got it off a hair dryer" - Homer Simpson

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  11. Pseudonyms and political office by Nakanai_de · · Score: 5, Funny

    Here in Japan, there's an ex-wrestler named the Great Sasuke who won a position in the Iwate Prefectural Assembly under his stage persona. There was a minor scandal because he wore his mask to the legislative sessions and the ruling party didn't like that. The bill to forbid wearing masks failed, though, so he still goes to work every day in a business suit and a full-face mask.

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  12. huh? by roka · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Rule#1 fits for SCO: "If you don't understand someone doing something obviously dumb, than it most probably is about something else."

    Everyone knows he won't win that ridiculous case.
    And since he is retired the publicity doesn't help a damn, right?

    So I'll stick with rule #2 here: "If you don't understand someone doing something obviously dumb, than he most probably is just some bored retard"

  13. My advice to him by violent.ed · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... is join the ARMY and become a Major. Then he can sue Damon Wayans and Universal Studios!

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  14. Re:other max paynes out there.. by _Laban_ · · Score: 2, Informative

    I think the photographer's name is Max Hardcore, not Max Payne. ;D

  15. ObSimpsonsReference by Decaffeinated+Jedi · · Score: 4, Funny
    Maxx Payne, he's the man who's name you'd love to touch! But you mustn't touch! His name sounds good in your ear, but when you say it, you mustn't fear! 'Cause his name can be said by anyone!

    DecafJedi

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  16. Re:Ask Spike Jonze's son by johanges · · Score: 2, Informative

    Spike Jonze's son actually filed a comment with the court on behalf of TNN.

    He pointed out that he and his family had a film in the works about his father, and the name of the film was "Spike". Obviously he was concerned.

  17. Wait a mintue by vcv · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Does he even have any ground to stand on, because of the extra "x" in his alias? It's like Jon Doe suing Fox for their John Doe TV series.

  18. Re:other max paynes out there.. by 0x0d0a · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If it *is* a real name, it cannot be trademarked.

  19. Easy win-win solution by 0x0d0a · · Score: 2, Funny

    They should give him a free copy of Max Payne. I'd take it.

  20. Didn't he contradict himself? by Doctor+Cat · · Score: 3, Insightful
    "I left wrestling to come home to Utah and be with my family"

    Doesn't that mean he wants his "identity" now to be "Darryl Peterson, retired former celebrity who spends time with his wife and kids and gets left alone"?

    and I find myself in the biggest battle of my life - to save my identity

    How about "to save my chance to cash in on somebody else using a name I was done with, since I'm greedy"? I mean, if the videogame was about a wrestler guy that looked like him, that'd be different. Isn't the Max Payne videogame about a non-wrestling cop who shoots people 'n stuff?

    Frankly, if he sincerely wants to be retired and be with his family, having his old name associated with something new now would probably just get him less rabid wrestling fans pestering him and interfering with his new "Darryl Peterson, family man" focus. He should thank them, not sue them!

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  21. Get a Patent by BigDork1001 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    MSN has an article about Leo DiCaprio patenting his name.

    Oh, and speaking of Leo, the "Gangs of New York" heartthrob has decided to really cover his rear by going the extra mile on a patent. Perhaps thinking that his famous name is more than, well, just a name, DiCaprio has applied to the Department of Commerce to have it trademarked. While it may sound a bit extreme to you or me, the 24-year-old star's trademark application has already received a preliminary approval from Commerce's Patent & Trademark Office. I guess that kills my chances at naming my firstborn after him! Oh well.

    Only in America.

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  22. Sue Everybody!!! by johnkoer · · Score: 2, Funny

    If this does not work out for Max he can always sue these 53 people. 53 more lawsuits means he would never have to work again.