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New Testing Version Of Linux 2.6
James A. A. Joyce writes "It's all up now at the kernel archives. Get the full 2.6.0-test2 or a patch, whichever suits you. We need to test those new kernels! Hop to it!"
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/me watches the bandwith-o-meter explode
Of course, I've still got bits stuck between my teeth from the last release. Should have remembered to type 'make toothpick'.
You are not the customer.
Being a LKML lurker, here are a few of the new features.
t y/patches/Module/
0 .3/0793.html
1 .3/1267.html
4 .1/0832.html
3 610918825614&w=2
3 553654329827&w=2
3 498293902006&w=2
In-kernel Module Loader and Unified parameter support: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/rus
Nanosecond Time Patch: http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/021
Fbdev Rewrite: http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/011
Linux Trace Trollkit (LTT): http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/020
statfs64: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=10
POSIX Timer API: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=10
Shared Pagetable support: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=10
Hotplug CPU Removal Support and Kernel Probes
Bethanie: Whore...
Fan Whore
But is it SCO free?
Sincerly Mcbride CEO of SCO
http://saveie6.com/
I use an Apple iBook2 as my primary desktop, with an x86 for a server/renderer. Is PowerPC/Sparc/etc support focused on early or late in the development cycle? Should I expect the file I'm downloading to compile, or collapse?
You can't judge a book by the way it wears its hair.
I am also running it on my Vaio U-101 (a Pentium 4 600 sub-laptop that fits in a fanny-pack).
Bruce
Bruce Perens.
Somebody just submitted a patch!!!! Go download it from the bitkeeper NOW!!!!
I love Linux but hate most of the bloated distro's. However I would love to see how real time and fast this new kernel is. Also I heard you do not have to do a "make modules" when compiling.
Anyway back to my long instant-workstation ports installation.
http://saveie6.com/
Is this all we can do? Is this Slashdot, or what...
Get your own free personal location tracker
This was fixed in 2.4.18, correct? Was this fix foward-ported to the development kernel so that I can safely boot without using mem=nopentium and have no fear of my X locking?
Thank You
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=105 932590109238&w=2
And you're fired.
I wonder if the ACL haters will have a foxhole conversion.
Do you even lift?
These aren't the 'roids you're looking for.
PHP 5 is being integrated into the 2.6 kernels - should provide a noticable boost for web servers.
Get your own free personal location tracker
Its not a kernel issue as it already supports USB. You'd have to have a service(daemon) running that would scan the USB ports on your computer for any changes and then have it load a program to download the pictures off your computer.
In linux libertas
I just built and booted it on my Sun Ultra 60. CONFIG_PREEMPT seems broken on SPARC64, but after I removed a redefined symbol in ffb_drv.c, everything else seems to work.
/dev/sunmouse::BusMouse to /dev/psaux::PS/2 in XF86Config, but the middle mouse button doesn't work now. Gonna figure out that later when I get a chance.
One interesting note is that the sun/type5 keymap/keyboard settings for the console/XF86Config don't work anymore. Had to revert to the kernel keymap for the console, and xfree86/pc101 for X11. Also had to change
I use Linux for a very multipurpose server... SNAT, pppoe, tokenring+ethernet+atm+arcnet+slip, apache+php+perl, postgresql, Nvidia and hordes of other stuff I cant think of now. The test1 crashed for me as I was configuring the networking portions.
For setups like me, I couldnt test Linux beta versions. The server is really not mission-critical but I believe 2.6 will keep crashing for me till version say 2.6.15 or something. I'll be trying to add my contributions to the community but not at such an alpha stage.
"Give orange me give eat orange me eat orange give me eat orange give me you." -Nim Chimpsky
I'm sure that Windows and Mac OS X run USB Camera detection as a service. I doubt that the functionality is in their kernels. They're just setup in a way that makes the whole process transparent. You could setup linux to do exactly the same thing, I'm sure that this will be (or already is) a feature in Lycoris, Lindows etc...
In linux libertas
2.4.xx is the current stable release 2.5.0 = the current relase of 2.4.xx at the time they started the development series The last 2.5.xx became 2.6.0-test1 which sooner or later becomes 2.6.0
If religous zealots don't believe in Evolution, then why are they so worried about bird flu?
It worked under a completely unpatched Debian Woody DVD-R install, so I would say yes. I had some problem with VT support, but I think that was a configuration issue with the kernel rather than a dependancy problem.
You could use modutils and, say, gphoto2 along with a script to do it for you.
Since there's likely a specific USB driver, just insert a post-install line (post-install drivername command ) and when you plug it in, the module handler will start things going for you.
Since you're the one writing the script (which doesn't really have to be more than a gphoto command telling it where to put the pictures), you can make it as robust as you like... for instance, set up a file with camera ID to username mappings, and drop stuff in ~user/.photos-incoming or something.
If it's a camera that Linux sees as USB storage, the same thing pretty much holds, but you'll have to just run cp and put them where you'd like... no need to compile gphoto.
To bring this back on topic, I can't wait to check out 2.6, but I'm still in the middle of configuring test1. ;-(
Don't think of it as a flame---it's more like an argument that does 3d6 fire damage
"Remove support for The SCO Group lawsuit"
"Emit mocking laughter when incoming TCP profile matches SCO UNIX"
"Increment World Domination progress meter when incoming TCP profile matches Linux"
Got time? Spend some of it coding or testing
You're *exactly* the type of person who will make the best tester, precisely because it *will* crash for you. It's the tiny bugs that only show up under bizarre/rare combinations of features and usage that can be the most pesky.
Now, I'm not saying you should run a non-stable version on your server, but what about setting up a spare machine simply to replicate what's being done on your server?
Not only will it help out kernel development, it will also mean that you will get a stable kernel for your server sooner.
steve
Oh, you're not stuck, you're just unable to let go of the onion rings.
You were saying?
-Restil
Play with my webcams and lights here
Stereotypical chinese grammar mistakes? Check.
Silly questions meant to start a flame war? Check.
A subtle comment about the great firewall of China, to which most people are against? Check.
Moderators who obviously didn't realized the give-away name "Fu Ling-Yu"? Check, Check.
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[This post was made at 13 May 2006]
How to configure support for Virtual Terminals?
Using an install straight from the Debian Woody DVD-R, it can compile, boot and get to X. However there is absolutely no output from "loading kernel...", to the start of X, and cntl-alt-f1 gets be to an unchanged screen, not a login prompt. I know that VT support is not enabled by default (why?), but enabling VT and console on VT does not make any difference. Same thing happens with Mandrake 9.1.
Are compile errors for default configuration OK?
I thought I may have accidentally removed something required for VT support. So I made a completely default install, i.e. "make config" and hold down enter for all questions. However, this would not even compile on gcc 3.95.4 from Debian Woody. Are drivers that don't even compile enabled by default, or is the statement in the docs that any gcc 3.95.x where x>3 will be ok, out of date?
Would getting the .config file from a working install of 2.6-test help?
If so do you have a link?
Why does make modules_install complain about missing dependencies?
Why doesn't it just make the dependencies? What are we meant to do about this?
Also, is NTFS write support ready for end-user testing in non-mission critical situations?
Does anyone know if there is anything diffrent w/ xfs or raid in 2.6? I tried out 2.6 beta 1 with my striping raid which is all xfs(just software raid on hpt370 card)...When I booted into 2.6 my keyboard didn't work, so i booted back into 2.4.20 and my raid was absolutely insane(no files showing up), so I rebooted once more into 2.4 and it fixed itself...Anyone have any idea why that would happen, can I expect better behavior with 2.6 beta 2?
..you actually let out an a reverbing "Aaaah" when you read this kind of headline.
I didn't.
So OK, I did. But I was already running 2.6.0-test1-mm2 with the O9 scheduler patches.
I just finished compiling and rebooted into 2.6.0-test1-bk3 and then went to check kernel.org to see if the 2.4.xx tree had changed to 22 stable and voila there it is -test2 and I was REALLY mad! :)
But I've compiled -test2 now and I hope it works -test1 did
Microsoft kiss my ass. Linux wasn't designed to beat you but it will mwuahhaha.
Grab kernel 2.6.0-test2 via Bittorrent here
Meaning only 5% of us actually use Linux.
The scheduler in 2.6 is still having some problems with interactive programs; XMMS skips frequently when switching desktops or running a CPU intensive program in the background. Ingo Molnar put together a patch which seems to fix this nicely, I highly recommend patching the kernel before using it if you're running linux on the desktop. the patch is available at http://people.redhat.com/mingo/O(1)-scheduler/sche d-2.6.0-test1-G6
I've tried three of these, 2.5.74, 2.6.0-test1 and -test2. Every time I boot up the kernel (bzImage from arch/i386/boot) it says "Uncompressing linux... OK " and that's it. Nothing else. I would really love to get this to work out, especially the native ALSA support (my sound card works great under ALSA, not so great under OSS). I'm wondering if perhaps some of the stuff I've compiled in is inhibiting the boot process.
I have IDE support compiled right in, my CPU is set up correctly (x86/Pentium-II), I'm not using anything fancy like initrd et al, I have ACPI and APM enabled, nss what else I can mention.
Installed module-init-tools and converted over my old profile (just had two aliases for my network cards), depmod runs w/o any problems (I remembered to pass in the symbols for the new kernel).... argh.
I'm not trying to start a flamewar, just referring to this:
On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 03:51:36PM -0400, Richard Stallman wrote:
> > If you are trying to copy BK, give it up. We'll simply follow in the
> > footsteps of every other company faced with this sort of thing and change
> > the protocol every 6 months. Since you would be chasing us you can never
> > catch up. If you managed to stay close then we'd put digital signatures
> > into the protocol to prevent your clone from interoperating with BK.
http://lkml.org/archive/2003/7/19/175/
Never try anything new on your production machines.
Have a test server configured exactly (or as close as you can get) like your production server.
Always test new software on the test machine before putting it on the production machine.
This is important whether you're running Linux or Windows or whatever. Even when you're testing new versions or updates of apache or PHP or perl or postgresql or whatever.
Running untested (by you) code on production servers is guaranteed to bite you eventually.
Just save yourself the lost time and headaches and get a test box.
Your time and data are worth far more than the cost on a test box.
James A.A. Joyce. I should have been keeping closer track I guess, but I was still trying to do 2.6.0-test1 with the -mm2 and the -int7 patches. Thx for the info, I'll get back to you on it!
FWIW, I read the kernel ML daily and I can say that the kernel team strongly desires end user feedback in the form of commentary and bug reports (not flames!)
They're looking for all the possible "oddball" cases (AKA "corner cases") and also for extreme loads such as huge files/filesystems, throughput, mem and net bandwidth, fs integrity, etc.
Regular users should participate; Linus has said that his focus is still on desktop usability and responsiveness. Anyone else who is interested should make sure to enable the -preempt option as well -- amazing performance!
Damn... now I need to try -test2.
C|N>K
Some versions would print:
You cannot apply a technological solution to a sociological problem. (Edwards' Law)
Untar kernel sources
/path/to/kernel/sources
cd
make menuconfig
make bzImage modules modules_install
cp arc/[your arch]/boot/bzImage [appropriate place]
modify lilo/grub config, run lilo if required
get the new module-init-tools and install them (debian can apt-get them I believe, gentoo just emerge them)
reboot, enjoy.
I tried running xosview, but it hung. gdb shows:
/usr/bin/xosview
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.3/libstdc++ .so.5 /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.3/libstdc++ .so.5 /lib/libc.so.6
bdonlan@bd-home-comp bdonlan $ gdb `which xosview`
GNU gdb 5.3
Copyright 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are
welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions.
Type "show copying" to see the conditions.
There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details.
This GDB was configured as "i686-pc-linux-gnu"...(no debugging symbols found)...
(gdb) run
Starting program:
(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...
[time passes...]
^C
Program received signal SIGINT, Interrupt.
0x4017af39 in std::basic_istream >& std::operator>> >(std::basic_istream >&, char*) () from
(gdb) bt
#0 0x4017af39 in std::basic_istream >& std::operator>> >(std::basic_istream >&, char*) () from
#1 0x0805d6fb in strcpy ()
#2 0x0805d195 in strcpy ()
#3 0x080561d4 in strcpy ()
#4 0x08054949 in strcpy ()
#5 0x08055a9a in strcpy ()
#6 0x402217a7 in __libc_start_main () from
top shows it comsuming a lot of cpu time while it's hung.
It's pretty clear that Bram's intention with BitTorrent was exactly for situations like this; a file is posted with a huge surge of immediate demand (i. e. slashdot linkage) and download speeds become intolerable.
I'm sure the kernel.org servers are quite formidable, but with a BT-based solution everybody could be happily downloading 2.6-test2 at a steady clip.
- use enun instead of tons of #defines
Does the eNun have to take a vow or is it just pretend like Sister Act?(Score: -1, Poster is a Dumbass)
CAn'T CompreHend SARcaSm?
USB mass storage is supported since late 2.2, as is the interesting "hotplug" interface.
Plug in the camera, and it appears as a SCSI disk. If you have autofs turned on, it should "just work".
With modern Gnome and KDE, it's as easy as plugging it in and double-clicking an icon that appears on your desktop.
THIS THING CAN TURN ON A DIME, MACROSSZERO STYLE ALSO FUCK BETA, ~NYORON
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/Change Log-2.6.0-test2
And using the term "whoopee" is a sign you are 40+ years old.
My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.