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New Testing Version Of Linux 2.6

James A. A. Joyce writes "It's all up now at the kernel archives. Get the full 2.6.0-test2 or a patch, whichever suits you. We need to test those new kernels! Hop to it!"

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  1. do you see that! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    /me watches the bandwith-o-meter explode

    1. Re:do you see that! by chihowa · · Score: 4, Interesting

      No kidding! I had just checked kernel.org minutes before this story was posted. I began the download before the story, only to see it drastically slow down halfway through. So I checked Slashdot, and here we are!

      --
      If you want a vision of the future, imagine a youtube comments section scrolling - forever.
    2. Re:do you see that! by gantrep · · Score: 3, Interesting

      When I downloaded test1, a couple weeks ago I think, I remember noting that kernel.org had some nice bandwidth; I was downloading it at about 200kb/s. So yeah that is a pretty big dip.

    3. Re:do you see that! by caouchouc · · Score: 3, Insightful

      kernel.org should get into the habit of making .torrents available given how every test release from here 'till 2.6.0 will wind up on the front page of /.

  2. Fresh off the cob! by Limburgher · · Score: 5, Funny

    Of course, I've still got bits stuck between my teeth from the last release. Should have remembered to type 'make toothpick'.

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    You are not the customer.

    1. Re:Fresh off the cob! by yroJJory · · Score: 5, Funny

      Of course, I've still got bits stuck between my teeth from the last release. Should have remembered to type 'make toothpick'.

      Isn't that just an alias for "make clean"?

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      Jory
    2. Re:Fresh off the cob! by Limburgher · · Score: 5, Funny

      No! Common error, though. 'make toothpick' satisfies a dependency for 'make clean'. You can't 'make clean' until you 'make toothpick'. It's just too difficult. :)

      --

      You are not the customer.

    3. Re:Fresh off the cob! by yroJJory · · Score: 3, Funny

      Sorry. I guess I ran "make mistake".

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      Jory
    4. Re:Fresh off the cob! by gantrep · · Score: 3, Funny
      Haha, you guys are so funny.
      Don't forget the classic:

      make love
      make: *** No rule to make target `love'. Stop.
    5. Re:Fresh off the cob! by leviramsey · · Score: 4, Funny
      Of course, I've still got bits stuck between my teeth from the last release. Should have remembered to type 'make toothpick'.

      Making 'make...' jokes is a sign that you haven't 'make whoopee''d in a long time...

  3. New in 2.6 by bethane · · Score: 5, Informative

    Being a LKML lurker, here are a few of the new features.

    In-kernel Module Loader and Unified parameter support: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/rust y/patches/Module/

    Nanosecond Time Patch: http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0210 .3/0793.html

    Fbdev Rewrite: http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0111 .3/1267.html

    Linux Trace Trollkit (LTT): http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0204 .1/0832.html

    statfs64: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=103 610918825614&w=2

    POSIX Timer API: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=103 553654329827&w=2

    Shared Pagetable support: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=103 498293902006&w=2

    Hotplug CPU Removal Support and Kernel Probes

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    Fan Whore
    1. Re:New in 2.6 by zifty · · Score: 5, Informative

      The full changelog is here.

    2. Re:New in 2.6 by antiMStroll · · Score: 3, Funny
      ...Linux Trace Trollkit...

      Hmmm, sounds like something that'll be useful around here.

    3. Re:New in 2.6 by Clith · · Score: 3, Informative
      a URL-ized version of an informative posting

      Being a LKML lurker, here are a few of the new features.

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      [ReidNews]
  4. Here is a link by Billly+Gates · · Score: 5, Funny
    Look right here for a link.

    Sincerly Mcbride CEO of SCO

  5. PowerPC? by SHEENmaster · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I use an Apple iBook2 as my primary desktop, with an x86 for a server/renderer. Is PowerPC/Sparc/etc support focused on early or late in the development cycle? Should I expect the file I'm downloading to compile, or collapse?

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    1. Re:PowerPC? by Cheesy+Fool · · Score: 5, Informative

      Compared to 2.4.X these are the problems i've seen. No cpufreq scaling, alsa doesn't work too good and preempt doesn't work properly (mouse stutters).

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      Hail to the king, baby!
    2. Re:PowerPC? by Zork+the+Almighty · · Score: 3, Funny

      Fly By Night by Rush is terrible.

      So what's that got to do with ALSA ?

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      In Soviet America the banks rob you!
    3. Re:PowerPC? by G3ckoG33k · · Score: 3, Funny

      I think that was meant as a general warning - never play anything with Rush. At least I haven't done it, as far as I now. And even if it shouldn't affect ALSA at all, one may better be on the safe side.

  6. 2.6.0-test1 was really boring by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I decided to test 2.6.0-test1 on one of my primary servers. After building the kernel, I had to install the Debian module-init-tools package (required to manipulate kernel modules in 2.6) and edit /etc/modprobe.conf to alias what module to load for my ethernet cards and for the PS/2 mouse driver (the "mousedev" module). And then it just ran. It's been serving perens.com for days.

    I am also running it on my Vaio U-101 (a Pentium 4 600 sub-laptop that fits in a fanny-pack).

    Bruce

    1. Re:2.6.0-test1 was really boring by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 5, Informative
      I guess I should have mentioned that I almost always run "unstable". I've always been imnpressed with its stability! I've had a down day once in about 10 years due to a bad Debian package.

      I have no information regarding running it on "stable".

      Bruce

    2. Re:2.6.0-test1 was really boring by isorox · · Score: 4, Funny

      obviously you never did an "apt-get remove libc6" when you came home drunk one night.

    3. Re:2.6.0-test1 was really boring by BlueWonder · · Score: 5, Funny

      martin@feynman:~ > su -
      Password:
      feynman:~ # apt-get remove libc6
      Reading Package Lists... Done
      Building Dependency Tree... Done
      The following packages will be REMOVED:
      a2ps aalib1 adduser adjtimex alsa-base alsa-modules-2.4.20-6
      alsa-modules-2.4.21-1 alsa-source alsa-utils alsa-xmms anacron apache
      apache-common apt apt-show-source apt-show-versions apt-utils at audacity
      autoconf automake1.7 autotrace barcode base-files base-passwd bash bc
      bible-kjv bible-kjv-text biff bind9-host binutils binutils-dev bison
      bittorrent blender bsdgames bsdmainutils bsdutils buffer build-essential
      bzip2 ca-certificates calc cdda2wav cdrdao cdrecord cdtool cflow
      checksecurity console-common console-data console-tools console-tools-libs
      coreutils countrycodes cpio cpp cpp-3.3 cracklib-runtime cracklib2 cron
      cutils cvs db4.1-util dc debbugs-el debconf debconf-utils debhelper
      debianutils debmake deborphan debsigs debsums debview defoma devfsd
      devscripts dh-kpatches dh-make dialog dict dict-devil dict-easton
      dict-elements dict-foldoc dict-gcide dict-hitchcock dict-jargon dict-vera
      dict-wn dictd dictionaries-common dictzip diff diffstat dlocate dnsutils
      doc-base dpkg dpkg-dev dpkg-dev-el dselect dsniff e2fsprogs eboard ed
      electric-fence elisp-manual emacs-lisp-intro emacs21 emacsen-common enscript
      ethereal ethereal-common exim4 exim4-base exim4-config exim4-daemon-light
      expect expectk fakeroot fdutils fetchmail ffmpeg figlet file fileutils
      findutils finger flex fontconfig fortune-mod fortunes fortunes-bofh-excuses
      fortunes-min fping freeciv-client-gtk freeciv-server ftp fvwm g++ g++-3.3
      gawk gcc gcc-3.3 gdb gdk-imlib1 gettext gettext-base gettext-el gimp1.2
      gimp1.2-perl gimp1.2-print gnuchess gnuchess-book gnupg gnuplot gperf grep
      grep-dctrl groff groff-base grub gs gs-common gsfonts gsfonts-x11 gtksee gv
      gzip hdparm help2man hostname html-helper-mode html2text iamerican ibritish
      icmpinfo id-utils ifupdown imagemagick imlib-base imlib-progs indent info
      ingerman initscripts iogerman ipmasq iptables iptraf ircii ispell jackd
      jhead jpeginfo jpegoptim jpegpixi kdelibs-bin kdelibs4 kernel-image-2.4.20-6
      kernel-image-2.4.21-1 kernel-package kernel-patch-2.4-preempt
      kernel-source-2.4.21 klogd ksymoops lame less lesstif2 libao2 libart-2.0-2
      libarts1 libasound2 libatk1.0-0 libaudio2 libaudiofile0 libautotrace3
      libblkid1 libbz2-1.0 libbz2-dev libc6 libc6-dev libcap1
      libcompress-zlib-perl libcupsys2 libcurl2 libdb1-compat libdb2 libdb3
      libdb4.0 libdb4.1 libdb4.1-dev libdns8 libdps1 libesd0 libexpat1 libfam0c102
      libfluidsynth1 libfontconfig1 libfreetype6 libft-perl libg2c0 libgcc1
      libgcrypt1 libgd-gif1 libgdbm-dev libgdbm3 libgdbmg1 libggi-target-x libggi2
      libggimisc2 libgii0 libgii0-target-x libgimp1.2 libgimpprint1 libglib1.2
      libglib2.0-0 libgmp3 libgmp3-dev libgnutls5 libgnutls7 libgpmg1 libgtk-perl
      libgtk1.2 libgtk2.0-0 libgtk2.0-common libgtkxmhtml1 libid3-3.8.3 libid3tag0
      libidl0 libidn9 libimage-info-perl libio-string-perl libisc4 libjack0.50.0-0
      libjack0.71.2-0 libjpeg-progs libjpeg62 libjpeg62-dev libkpathsea3 libkrb53
      liblame0 liblcms1 libldap2 liblocale-gettext-perl liblockfile1 libltdl3
      libltdl3-dev liblwres1 liblzo1 libmad0 libmagic1 libmagick++5.5.7
      libmagick5.5.7 libmikmod2 libmldbm-perl libmng1 libmpeg1 libnasl2
      libncurses5 libncurses5-dev libnessus2 libnet1 libnet1-dev libnetpbm9
      libnetpbm9-dev libnids1 libnss-db libogg0 libopencdk4 libpam-cracklib
      libpam-dotfile libpam-modules libpam-pwdfile libpam0g libpam0g-dev
      libpango1.0-0 libpango1.0-common libpaper-utils libpaper1 libpcap-dev
      libpcap0.7 libpcre3 libperl-dev libperl5.6 libperl5.8 libpisock4 libplot2
      libpng10-0 libpng12-0 libpng12-dev libpng2 libpng3 libpopt0 libpstoedit0
      libqt3c102-mt libreadline4 libreadline4-dev librecode0 libsasl-modules-plain
      libsasl2 libsasl7 libsdl-mixer1.2 libsdl1.2debian libsdl1.2debian-oss
      libsmpeg0 libsndfile1 libssl-dev libssl0.9.

  7. More hot news!!! by InfiniteWisdom · · Score: 5, Funny

    Somebody just submitted a patch!!!! Go download it from the bitkeeper NOW!!!!

  8. We suck. by caluml · · Score: 5, Funny
    Current bandwidth utilization 67.69 Mbit/s

    Is this all we can do? Is this Slashdot, or what...

  9. The AMD and Nvidia Issue (mem=nopentium) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This was fixed in 2.4.18, correct? Was this fix foward-ported to the development kernel so that I can safely boot without using mem=nopentium and have no fear of my X locking?

    Thank You

  10. hooray! by larry+bagina · · Score: 3, Interesting
    having ACLs as a standard feature will be fantastic.

    I wonder if the ACL haters will have a foxhole conversion.

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    Do you even lift?

    These aren't the 'roids you're looking for.

  11. Re:I just installed FreeBSD by rf0 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Try Debian. A small install is around 96Mb and if you install a customer kernel should 200 Mb (Excluding source)

    Rus

  12. Re:Woo Hoo by sirmikester · · Score: 4, Informative

    Its not a kernel issue as it already supports USB. You'd have to have a service(daemon) running that would scan the USB ports on your computer for any changes and then have it load a program to download the pictures off your computer.

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    In linux libertas
  13. A minimum level of stability needed by mnmn · · Score: 4, Informative

    I use Linux for a very multipurpose server... SNAT, pppoe, tokenring+ethernet+atm+arcnet+slip, apache+php+perl, postgresql, Nvidia and hordes of other stuff I cant think of now. The test1 crashed for me as I was configuring the networking portions.

    For setups like me, I couldnt test Linux beta versions. The server is really not mission-critical but I believe 2.6 will keep crashing for me till version say 2.6.15 or something. I'll be trying to add my contributions to the community but not at such an alpha stage.

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    "Give orange me give eat orange me eat orange give me eat orange give me you." -Nim Chimpsky
  14. Re:I just installed FreeBSD by Bodhammer · · Score: 5, Informative
    This is one of the best recipes for a tight install I have used:

    The Very Verbose Debian 3.0 Installation Walkthrough

    This will give you a minimal but extremely stable install. If you want newer stuff you can shift to "testing" or "unstable". Unless your are doing cutting edge stuff, this install is bulletproof!

    --
    "I say we take off, nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure."
  15. Re:IP Violation by NanoGator · · Score: 5, Funny

    "But is it SCO free? "

    Sign this NDA and I'll tell you.

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    "Derp de derp."
  16. Re:IP Violation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    YES!
    Old McBride he had some IP
    IBIBM
    And that IP it was not free
    IBIBM

    With some SCO code here; Some SCO code there
    Here a SCO, there a SCO; Everywhere a SCO SCO

    The linux kernel had SMP
    IBIBM
    And that code was from Project Monterey
    IBIBM

    The linux kernel had NUMA
    IBIBM
    Then someone spread rumours
    IBIBM

    The linux kernel had JFS
    IBIBM
    And Christoph Hellwig did his best
    IBIBM

    Old McBride owns none of that
    IBIBM
    How we'd love to see THAT contract
    IBIBM

    With a lawsuit here; A counter-suit there
    Sue a SCO, sue a SCO; Everybody sue a SCO SCO

  17. Re:I just installed FreeBSD by damiam · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Actually, a minimal Debian install is like 25 MB, IIRC. Of course, that's with nothing but bash, the gnu tools, apt/dpkg, and the kernel, but sometimes that's all you need.

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  18. You forgot... by leonbrooks · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Remove support for The SCO Group lawsuit"

    "Emit mocking laughter when incoming TCP profile matches SCO UNIX"

    "Increment World Domination progress meter when incoming TCP profile matches Linux"

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    Got time? Spend some of it coding or testing
  19. You might be looking at it in the wrong way.... by NerveGas · · Score: 5, Insightful


    You're *exactly* the type of person who will make the best tester, precisely because it *will* crash for you. It's the tiny bugs that only show up under bizarre/rare combinations of features and usage that can be the most pesky.

    Now, I'm not saying you should run a non-stable version on your server, but what about setting up a spare machine simply to replicate what's being done on your server?

    Not only will it help out kernel development, it will also mean that you will get a stable kernel for your server sooner.

    steve

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    Oh, you're not stuck, you're just unable to let go of the onion rings.
  20. Re:Attention moderators by Restil · · Score: 3, Funny

    You were saying?

    -Restil

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  21. Re:Excellent! Time to upgrade.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Stereotypical chinese grammar mistakes? Check.

    Silly questions meant to start a flame war? Check.

    A subtle comment about the great firewall of China, to which most people are against? Check.

    Moderators who obviously didn't realized the give-away name "Fu Ling-Yu"? Check, Check.

    >0x5e610

  22. 2.6 is now available in Debian Stable! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    [This post was made at 13 May 2006]

  23. Issues not disscussed in kernel documentation by spaceturtle · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Here are some issues not discussed in the kernel documentation, that need to be resolved before technical users who know nothing about the kernel (like me) will be able to test the kernel in any meaningful way...

    How to configure support for Virtual Terminals?

    Using an install straight from the Debian Woody DVD-R, it can compile, boot and get to X. However there is absolutely no output from "loading kernel...", to the start of X, and cntl-alt-f1 gets be to an unchanged screen, not a login prompt. I know that VT support is not enabled by default (why?), but enabling VT and console on VT does not make any difference. Same thing happens with Mandrake 9.1.

    Are compile errors for default configuration OK?

    I thought I may have accidentally removed something required for VT support. So I made a completely default install, i.e. "make config" and hold down enter for all questions. However, this would not even compile on gcc 3.95.4 from Debian Woody. Are drivers that don't even compile enabled by default, or is the statement in the docs that any gcc 3.95.x where x>3 will be ok, out of date?

    Would getting the .config file from a working install of 2.6-test help?

    If so do you have a link?

    Why does make modules_install complain about missing dependencies?

    Why doesn't it just make the dependencies? What are we meant to do about this?

    Also, is NTFS write support ready for end-user testing in non-mission critical situations?

  24. raid by thrift24 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Does anyone know if there is anything diffrent w/ xfs or raid in 2.6? I tried out 2.6 beta 1 with my striping raid which is all xfs(just software raid on hpt370 card)...When I booted into 2.6 my keyboard didn't work, so i booted back into 2.4.20 and my raid was absolutely insane(no files showing up), so I rebooted once more into 2.4 and it fixed itself...Anyone have any idea why that would happen, can I expect better behavior with 2.6 beta 2?

  25. Grrr damned Linus and his timing by DamnedMouse · · Score: 3, Funny

    I just finished compiling and rebooted into 2.6.0-test1-bk3 and then went to check kernel.org to see if the 2.4.xx tree had changed to 22 stable and voila there it is -test2 and I was REALLY mad!
    But I've compiled -test2 now and I hope it works -test1 did :)

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    Microsoft kiss my ass. Linux wasn't designed to beat you but it will mwuahhaha.
  26. A new kind of karma whoring... by NightHwk1 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Grab kernel 2.6.0-test2 via Bittorrent here

  27. Scheduler patch by awptic · · Score: 4, Informative

    The scheduler in 2.6 is still having some problems with interactive programs; XMMS skips frequently when switching desktops or running a CPU intensive program in the background. Ingo Molnar put together a patch which seems to fix this nicely, I highly recommend patching the kernel before using it if you're running linux on the desktop. the patch is available at http://people.redhat.com/mingo/O(1)-scheduler/sche d-2.6.0-test1-G6

  28. You need a test server. by Population · · Score: 4, Informative

    Never try anything new on your production machines.

    Have a test server configured exactly (or as close as you can get) like your production server.

    Always test new software on the test machine before putting it on the production machine.

    This is important whether you're running Linux or Windows or whatever. Even when you're testing new versions or updates of apache or PHP or perl or postgresql or whatever.

    Running untested (by you) code on production servers is guaranteed to bite you eventually.

    Just save yourself the lost time and headaches and get a test box.

    Your time and data are worth far more than the cost on a test box.

  29. Thank you goes to... by inode_buddha · · Score: 3, Informative

    James A.A. Joyce. I should have been keeping closer track I guess, but I was still trying to do 2.6.0-test1 with the -mm2 and the -int7 patches. Thx for the info, I'll get back to you on it!

    FWIW, I read the kernel ML daily and I can say that the kernel team strongly desires end user feedback in the form of commentary and bug reports (not flames!)

    They're looking for all the possible "oddball" cases (AKA "corner cases") and also for extreme loads such as huge files/filesystems, throughput, mem and net bandwidth, fs integrity, etc.

    Regular users should participate; Linus has said that his focus is still on desktop usability and responsiveness. Anyone else who is interested should make sure to enable the -preempt option as well -- amazing performance!

    Damn... now I need to try -test2.

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    C|N>K
  30. easter egg from long ago by devphil · · Score: 3, Funny


    Some versions would print:

    $ make war
    make: *** make love, not war
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    You cannot apply a technological solution to a sociological problem. (Edwards' Law)
  31. Re:I have yet to get this working... by Amon+Re · · Score: 5, Informative

    That is because you you didn't enable virtual terminals in your config. Make sure you have the options CONFIG_INPUT=y, CONFIG_VT=ys, CONFIG_VGA_CONSOLE=y and CONFIG_VT_CONSOLE=y.

  32. Re:I have yet to get this working... by Garion911 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Make sure you have Character Devices->SUpport for console on Virtual Terminal enabled.. If you don't, you wont see anything.. But you kernel actaully was booting.

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  33. Re:Why don't they use bittorrent? by __aavhli5779 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's pretty clear that Bram's intention with BitTorrent was exactly for situations like this; a file is posted with a huge surge of immediate demand (i. e. slashdot linkage) and download speeds become intolerable.

    I'm sure the kernel.org servers are quite formidable, but with a BT-based solution everybody could be happily downloading 2.6-test2 at a steady clip.

  34. Other replys obvious troll are morons, wrong too by Ayanami+Rei · · Score: 5, Interesting

    USB mass storage is supported since late 2.2, as is the interesting "hotplug" interface.

    Plug in the camera, and it appears as a SCSI disk. If you have autofs turned on, it should "just work".

    With modern Gnome and KDE, it's as easy as plugging it in and double-clicking an icon that appears on your desktop.

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    THIS THING CAN TURN ON A DIME, MACROSSZERO STYLE ALSO FUCK BETA, ~NYORON
  35. Re:I just installed FreeBSD by rowanxmas · · Score: 3, Funny

    25MB...the gnu tools

    and if you don't install emacs its like 5MB.