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Kazaa CEO vs. Hilary Rosen

Carpoolio writes "TechTV is continuing its good coverage of the RIAA attack on file swappers, and now they've gone to Australia to interview Nikki Hemming, CEO of Sharman Networks (Kazaa). It's supposedly one of the only TV interviews she's ever done, and Hemming has some interesting things to say about Hilary Rosen and the RIAA, and the future of Kazaa, but without revealing too much. In TechTV's story (part of a three-part series), they've pitted the two against each other, using a recent interview they did with Rosen. Streaming video of the Rosen interview is included on the site."

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  1. So... by groove10 · · Score: 5, Funny

    which one is Gozilla and which one is Mothra?

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  2. Nikki Hemming vs. Hilary Rosen by Michael+Hunt · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sounds like an, uhm, interesting mud wrestling match. I would seriously pay for front row seats to that.

    In the, erm, brown corner we have Hilary Rosen; devourer of civil liberties, champion of everyone's IP rights (for varying values of 'everyone',) and destroyer of the fell beast Napster.

    In the, uhm, OTHER brown corner, we have Nikki Hemming; fearless leader of Sharman Networks, profiteers behind such wonderful, life enhancing software as 'KaZaA Media Desktop;' single-handedly responsible for installing the Brilliant Digital plugin onto millions of desktops.

    Like I said. Front row seats. Winner gets a latex fist, ten pounds of diff grease and a brass replica of the Scales of Justice.

  3. This will haunt them. by aerojad · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Once again, the RIAA is going to make life hard for theirselves down the line as they continue to sue their own customer base. Not a good business pratice, never will be.

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    1. Re:This will haunt them. by Awptimus+Prime · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Agreed. I do not buy CDs anymore due to the RIAA's actions in recent years. Not only it's bad business practice concerning filing suits against individuals, but it's push for hacked CDs and other devices to prevent me from making backups of my purchases.

      In regards to their panic and need to sue everyone under the sun over mp3's, why do they get so upset when their public statements regarding the quality of pirated music as inferior to the CDs they sell? It would seem to me that inferior, unauthorized, copies would give downloaders an extra incentive to purchase after they download.

      Aside from my dislike over their litigation happy ways, other things that contribue to my refusal to purchase CDs:

      1) over-simplified, stereotypical bands and music categories. There's only ever a few songs from a few big names, with an occasional introductory band of any given category. At least that's all that ever hits the airwaves and major music stores.

      2) too much urge for political control. For the RIAA to be such a small sector in the economy, it has an incredible amount of political backing. They have systematically bought votes from a great number of politicians through donations and capaign funds.

      3) refusal to modernize business practice. The use of litigation and threats appear to be the means by which to keep a mid-1900's business model afloat in the new millenium. If all that money was spent on enabling technology and music, they wouldn't be sinking financially.

      4) refusal to acknowledge why sales are plumetting. They scream 'piracy!' when it comes to falling numbers. But, take the percentage loss of sales in the past two years and compare it to the loss of sales for movie tickets, vacations, amusement parks, and other recreational spending.

      I am certain the decline is global and due to a sinking world economy. Their sales will pick back up if they calm down, release more titles for people who aren't 16-20 years old, and wait for the economy to get rolling again.

  4. Gotta love the FUD by mericet · · Score: 5, Funny
    "If you're using KaAaA today, you're getting, in my view, a crappy quality song -- not what the artist did in the studio, not what they wanted you to hear, not their finest work" - Rosen

    Yeah, but that's what you get when you buy a CD too, a much too loud abomination of what the artist recorded.

    1. Re:Gotta love the FUD by infornogr · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yeah, but that's what you get when you buy a CD too, a much too loud abomination of what the artist recorded.

      Couldn't agree more.
      Information on the 'too loud' problem for the less-informed: http://www.prorec.com/prorec/articles.nsf/articles /8A133F52D0FD71AB86256C2E005DAF1C

  5. So who do we support? by Prince_Ali · · Score: 5, Funny

    Do we support Hilary 'CD Crippler' Rosen or Nikki 'Spyware Installer' Hemming?

  6. Hang on... At least they agree on something?? by madaxe42 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    No they don't...
    "P2P is unstoppable," Hemming said. It's a statement Rosen would likely agree with.

    Sorry, but where I come from, that's mere hypothesis... Rosen probably would agree, but she actually hasn't...

    Also, KaZaA (or whatever silliness they do with their capital letters) is known to be one of the most prolific distributors of spyware on the internet, so do we support them, or the technophobic legalistic RIAA?

    Oh well, each to their own. Use freenet! (They kennae catch you that way ;) )
  7. Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Rosen claims KaZaA is ruining, not expanding, the recording industry by allowing inferior copies of music to be downloaded with its software. "If you're using KaAaA today, you're getting, in my view, a crappy quality song -- not what the artist did in the studio, not what they wanted you to hear, not their finest work," she said.

    I thought the problem the RIAA had with digital copying was that copies were near-perfect and did not degrade over generations? There Hilary is telling us that digital copies are not good copies.

    The RIAA, two faced? Never! If digital copies suck so much, I want my LP's back, too!

  8. I applaud your moral conviction. by Prince_Ali · · Score: 5, Funny
    Wow, I applaud your moral conviction. To pirate a CD instead of buying it must have been a terrible ordeal. You will be held as a martyr for your unthinkable sacrifice. You are the Ghandi of your day! If only more people could have the strength of character to take things without paying for them the world would be a better place.

    Yes, that was sarcasm!

    1. Re:I applaud your moral conviction. by LordYUK · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Its a helluva lot easier to get a CD at target for 13 bucks as opposed to hunting on Kazaa for the entire thing in good quality that isnt the chorus repeated over and over and over...

      but if even 1 penny of that purchase goes to fund a lawsuit, they fuck 'em. I'd rather infringe their copyright.

      Oh, and if they dont want us listening to their music for free, then perhaps they shouldnt play it on the radio... I'd guess that over 95% of the stuff I download is the flavor of the week on the radio.

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  9. Bias Shown in First Paragraph by goldspider · · Score: 5, Insightful
    "Her company's technology may be dragging the entertainment industry, kicking and screaming, into a future of file swapping, but the entertainment industry would rather drag Nikki Hemming and her company into court."

    I love how TechTV is portraying Kazaa as the noble progressive, leading us all into the GLORIOUS FUTURE OF FILE-SHARING, while Rosen and Co. are stodgy, grumpy old dinosaurs seeking to deprive humanity of life-saving technology.

    I know all of the "blah blah outdated business model blah blah" arguments, and even agree with some of them, but TechTV didn't lend itself much credibility (IMHO) with their one-sided opening remarks.

    I am now grabbing my ankles, waiting for moderators to get ahold of this.

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  10. Re:Kazaa should be shut down by warpmoon · · Score: 5, Insightful
    First of all, why are you even watching stuff like that?

    Second, Kazaa is a distribution network, not the material itself. It's not Kazaa's fault that certain people share files like that. Shutting down Kazaa won't fix that problem, just as removing roads isn't the fix for getting rid of smugglers.

  11. Random Thoughts by bafraid2b1 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How is the RIAA finding out who's sharing what on Kazaa? Are they using Kazaa to do it? And if they are, by simply using the Kazaa software are they killing their own case?

    The thing that we all need to realize, like Napster and Morpheus, Kazaa is essentially dead now. Let it go. Nobody wants to share on it now for fear of being caught. So the real question is where's the next filesharing service? The one that we can all use for another year or two until legal action is taken against it and we move on to the next one?

  12. Technology by mopslik · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "I don't think you do stop technology," Rosen said. "I don't think we'd want to stop technology."

    Indeed, the RIAA would rather load up CDs with copy-protection technologies instead. I've had to turn down three recent CDs that I was interested in, since I know they won't play on most of my computers or linux-based portables. A shame, since I would have shelled out the $18CAN for them too.

  13. Re:Do you want your children see someone get shot? by MImeKillEr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Please tell me this - do you want YOUR children see a video where someone gets shot in the head?

    No, I wouldn't want my kids to see this. But you know what? Technology isn't the enemy. Nor is it anyone's responsibility to police my kids, nor is it anyone else's responsibility to raise my kids. Its my responsibility to shield my sons from seeing objectionable programming, teach them values, respect and morals.

    My two year old is more polite than the other children in our neighborhood. He says thank you, please, may I have (insert item here), etc. You know why? Because my wife and I take the time to teach him. He's not shacked up in some daycare with minimum wage trolls who don't interact with him - he's at home, with my wife and she's teaching him how to be a respectful child... At least until he enters the public education system with children raised by lazy parents like you.

    If you feel that society as a whole should be responsible for raising your children, then I feel sorry not only for your kids but society as a whole.

    Parents are a lot less involved with their kids now than they were when I was growing up. As a result, children are a lot less respectful of adults and others in general. Its your kind of parenting and beliefs that governemnt needs to do your childrearing for you that leads to the degradation of society.

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  14. Just in case.... by telstar · · Score: 5, Funny

    In case the site gets slashdotted, I put a copy of the video up on Kazaa.

  15. Pillory Hilary! by Phoenix666 · · Score: 5, Funny

    OK, we all hate and loathe the RIAA and MPAA and we will bring them down. I think it's time to start planning for a post-RIAA world order.

    First, and most fun, should come the war-crimes tribunal. Hilary Rosen, Jack Valenti, Congressmen Berman, Tauzin, Hatch, and Hollings, and all the top execs at the content companies should be put in stockades in public squares around the country so that music fans and citizens can throw CDs, cassettes, and excrement at them (sorry, triply redundant, that.). Then we put them in strait jackets, put them in rubber rooms, and force them to listen to N'Sync, Backstreet Boys, Britney Spears, Michael Jackson, and all of their terrible music until their ears bleed and they're reduced to piles of gibbering insanity. Then we'll give them a life sentence in a nice asylum where they can finger paint and watch Barney with expressions of childlike wonder.

    Then we designate a national holiday to mark our liberation, to be celebrated by amateur musicians, thespians, and artists performing free in public plazas and parks across the land. We'll show movies outdoors against the sides of buildings, like in the old days, and have carnival booths where you can pay a nickel to take a whack at Lars and the Metallica boys. Ahhh, can you see it?

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