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Verizon Rolling Out Nextel-Like PTT Service

aberson writes "Verizon Wireless announced today that it is rolling out a PTT (push to talk) phone service, targetted at business customers. They claim better coverage, 'presence' (away/available), and wireless web for about $10 more than Nextel and $10 more than a non-PTT Verizon plan. Pricing doesn't mention how 'high-speed' data will roll into this (which you can't get on Nextel), but you are using the CDMA2000 network to essentially do VoIP. If only it could be something cross-networkable like Sonim. Just wait a few months for the other carriers to catch up and cellular number portability to be enforced. Ironically, you can only get it on a Motorola made phone. Also, Verizon seems to be not caring about Nextel trying to copyright a generic technical term."

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  1. Does anyone use this stuff? by floamy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Am I the only one who wants a cell phone that does nothing except phone calls and maybe handle a list of peoples phone numbers? All these crazy features are making me crazy :(

    1. Re:Does anyone use this stuff? by Adam9 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't care for PTT to be used by people in stores, etc. because I find it highly annoying. However PTT is great for company use, especially on construction jobs. I believe Verizon is going to be targeting corporate users first for PTT.

  2. Sprint has been working on VoIP PTT by NitroWolf · · Score: 5, Informative

    Sprint is about to launch a PTT VoIP solution as well, if they can overcome the technical issues. PTT VoIP is harder than it sounds, given the need for authentication, etc... unless you like waiting 30 seconds after you push the button to talk :)

  3. Amazing, but true by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    They managed to come up with something more annoying that cell phones. Everyone walking around with publicly broadcasting walkie talkies. Great idea. More noise for us all.

  4. Crappy Nextel phones by SpaceCadetTrav · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sweet, maybe this will inspire Nextel to start offering phones designed in the 21st century.

  5. There is nothing more annoying by aardwolf204 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There is nothing more annoying than hearing someone try to use this "walkie-talkie" function in public. I sure hope SprintPCS never gets this.

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    1. Re:There is nothing more annoying by Adam9 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Sorry..

      Verizon Wireless want to attract the same type of customer as Nextel, one that is willing to pay $20 more a month for the walkie-talkie feature. Nextel's service is popular with groups such as constructions crews and financial traders. Sprint Corp.'s PCS unit has said it will introduce a similar product this year.

    2. Re:There is nothing more annoying by EarwigTC · · Score: 5, Interesting


      Blame the user, not the technology. Every Nextel phone I've seen lets you turn off the group speaker and use PTT with the phone to your ear. It's too bad more users don't figure out how to do that.

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    3. Re:There is nothing more annoying by The+Old+Burke · · Score: 5, Informative
      Actually push To Talk, or walkie talkie over cell-phone as you might as well call it, is quite handy.

      If you allreadt have established a connection to someone all you do is press the button then talk. If you make many small phonecalls a day the service is perfect. Many craftsmen and workers are using it, for them its perfect, and the phone cost actyally goes down as you don't have to hold the line forever.
      Currently the phone companies charges a premium for PTT, but I guess its only reasonable since the service is new and pretty high tech. The phone companies have invested a lot of money in this, but now they can sent the conversation in small packets over the IP-network.

      At my company we just got this and I'm vert satisfied, monitoring of the workers are easier and takes less time. At the same time the productivity went up, so we can charge our customers more fore the time we work.

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  6. Great, just what we need by mhesseltine · · Score: 4, Funny

    BEEP - Can you hear me now?

    BEEP - Yes.

    [Verizon guy takes 2 steps]

    BEEP - Can you hear me now?

    BEEP - Yes.

    Continue ad infinitum

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  7. Restrain self! by NMerriam · · Score: 5, Informative

    Must not...point out difference...between copyright and trademark...yet again...not...strong..enough!

    You know when your relatives say they need 3 gigs of memory to install a game, or ask why they don't just put the hard disk in the TV screen, or why a computer needs to be plugged in if it is wireless? That's what it is like to read the same trademark/copyright/patent goofs made over and over and over again.

    Trademarks are solely for marks used in trade. ie "We bring good things to life", a slogan, an icon, a piece of IDENTITY. You get trademarks so that consumers will not be confused about who produced a product. If you stop using a trademark (or it becomes common, no longer distinct to your company), you can lose it. It's sole purpose is to protect companies from imitators.

    Copyrights are for the right to copy creative works. ie, novels, poems, computer programs, paintings, etc. You never have to sell, buy or process anything to get a copyright. it cannot be lost no matter what, but you can give it away or sell it. It is to protect AUTHORS, not companies or money (at least in theory).

    Patents are for novel inventions (and lately, processes). You can't patent a book, or a painting, or a slogan, because they don't do anything. It protects inventors, not writers or marketing folks.

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  8. Sure they do by wordisms · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why do you think Verizon is picking up this feature? Because companies are leaving their current cellular provider for Nextel just for PTT.

    It comes in particularly handy when businesses and oranizations have employees off-site. Everything from delivery to maintenance, sales to construction. It is a very valuable feature for both convenience and saving money.

    Bottom Line: People will leave Verizon for Nextel, and they don't want to lose market-share.

  9. why PTT without dedicated circuit? by obtuse · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Why are they implementing this as a push to talk feature?

    It seems to me that PTT isn't going to save them much bandwidth because human conversation tends to be mostly half duplex anyway. Since it's a packet-switched network, it's not like you're using a dedicated circuit (like in a walkie-talkie or analog phone line) when you're not conversing. Keeping the connection up shouldn't cost much bandwidth at all. If they're using something like TDMA from the phone to the transmitter, you should use almost no bandwidth there keeping the connection open either.

    Shouldn't packet switching and TDMA like technologies make the walkie-talkie limitations irrelevant?

    I've always thought that this was a way of making the service just inconvenient enough to use that users don't burn so many hours. They don't want me spending my entire commute talking to my wife.

    Jut wondering.

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  10. Re:walkie talkies by Transfan76 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm curious as to how this and Nextel phones are seen by laws such as the ones in NYC. Since there are provisions in the law that continue for the use of CB radios without hand free devices, shouldn't these be allowed to be used without handfree devices in cars when you're using the PTT feature? I know they don't transmit over the CB frequencies and that's why State Laws can't overpower federal regulations. But if I got a ticket for using my PTT phone in New York without handsfree, I would think I would have a good fight in court

  11. Re:Seeking a clue by LoadStar · · Score: 4, Informative

    The best way I can describe PTT when compared to a standard voice conversation is that PTT is almost like a voice SMS. It's useful for communicating short bursts of information quickly.

    Advantages to PTT/"Direct Connect (TM)" is that as soon as you push the button, you're connected to the other party - you don't have to wait while the other end rings and for them to pick up. Also, communication using PTT is closer to a walkie talkie than a phone conversation.

    Example:
    Them: *chirp* (press the button and release it to page them, indicating you want to talk to them)
    Me: "Go."
    Them: "What's your 20?"
    Me: "3rd and Maple."
    Them: "Copy. Need assistance?"
    Me: "Negative. Thanks."

    As you can see, it can be a little quicker than a phone conversation. Additionally since the mike is only on while you have the button pressed, I typically am doing other things at the same time, like talking to others, without the other end hearing it.

    The advantages are mostly visible when you have an entire department or company equipped with PTT phones. If you are the only one, then PTT is kind of silly, admittedly.

  12. I use it and it is THE DEVIL by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Imagine, if you will, sitting in a car with a hot member of the opposite sex...Okay, make that just a member of the opposite sex, since this is /.

    Things are going well...VERY well. And then, with no warning, your phone makes a little BRRREEP noise, and a voice says LOUDLY, "Hey man, you get any on that date tonight?"

    This is a technology that has few practical applications, and offers a whole WORLD of annoying possibilities.

    Just my opinion.

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