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Linux Guru Alan Cox Takes A Year Off

An anonymous reader writes "Linux guru Alan Cox is taking a year off from RedHat and kernel development to get his MBA. For years, Alan Cox has maintained the extremely stable 2.2 Linux kernel, and more or less been Linux creator Linus Torvalds' right hand man. Now it sounds like the 2.2 kernel is up for grabs to someone who is 'good at refusing patches and being ignored'..."

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  1. I'm good at being ignored by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    and I've been lobbying for the position for quite some time now, but so far no replies.

    hmmm....

    1. Re:I'm good at being ignored by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Sorry... what was that again? I wasn't paying attention...

  2. Whew, they changed the story... by Craig+Maloney · · Score: 5, Funny

    Before, the story read that he was taking a year off to get his MBNA. Sheesh, I get at least two offers a month from those bohos for instant credit. :)

  3. MBA? by tinrobot · · Score: 5, Funny

    What does a Linux kernel coding god need with an MBA?

    1. Re:MBA? by cerberusss · · Score: 5, Funny
      What does a Linux kernel coding god need with an MBA?
      Because MBA'ers get all the girls.
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    2. Re:MBA? by Mournblade · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, the SCO suit is going to result in Linux being declared illegal, so he'll need a new career.

    3. Re:MBA? by mnmn · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Apart from being 'funny', honestly why would Alan Cox need any degree or certification? He can go to any Linux development company and put his resume on the table:

      Alan Cox.

      Unless the HR manager is a college assistant who has Bonzi Buddy installed on her Windows laptop, Alan will get hired. I suppose some larger companies have policies to honor degrees at all levels of the management and Senior Cox is getting ambitious. In that case it kinda gets sad to see him planning to manage rather than code.

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    4. Re:MBA? by ralphus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Is it totally crazy to think that he just might *want* one?

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    5. Re:MBA? by ReadParse · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well, I can understand this, even though I've never been quite the academic. I'm sure he doesn't need it for employment, but rather because he wants the education itself. And that's admirable.

      RP

    6. Re:MBA? by anthonyrcalgary · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Because learning is fun and you can't learn everything you want to know by coding alone.

      And he might want to teach.

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    7. Re:MBA? by mikeee · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And if he wants to start a business, or be upper management, a (good, not diploma mill) MBA will be a big win.

    8. Re:MBA? by Mandi+Walls · · Score: 3, Funny

      Know Thy Enemies

    9. Re:MBA? by stilwebm · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Apart from being 'funny', honestly why would Alan Cox need any degree or certification? He can go to any Linux development company and put his resume on the table:

      Unlike the world of MCSEs and A+ certifications, you don't go and "get" a degree. You earn a degree by learning important skills. He is not going to school just to get a piece of paper. In the case of an MBA, he will learn important management skills that take many years of real-world experience to learn. In business school, that take 1 to 2 years to master many of the skills.

      Perhaps he wants to start a business? He is a great coder, good at managing source code trees, but an MBA will teach him about managing a business. Alan obviously isn't just trying to improve his resume, he's trying to improve himself.

    10. Re:MBA? by gallir · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Because "the security of getting hired at any time" doesn't always mean your goals, wishes and desire for learning new things are already fulfilled.

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    11. Re:MBA? by killmenow · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I have ~ 15 years of technical experience and I would love an MBA. Why? So I could have a better idea what goes on in the mind of the CEO. I just don't get the thinking a lot of times.

      The education provided in the MBA path is (to me) no more than a window into the vagaries of the management mind. A scary thought, indeed...but who doesn't wonder the "whys" of management?

    12. Re:MBA? by realnowhereman · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Degree != real-world experience.

      I've got both, as I'm sure do many on slashdot. The two are symbiotic, not the same.

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    13. Re:MBA? by sql*kitten · · Score: 4, Informative

      Degree != real-world experience. I've got both, as I'm sure do many on slashdot. The two are symbiotic, not the same.

      A good MBA programme won't take you without experience. Typical students have worked for 3 to 8 years before applying to B-school.

    14. Re:MBA? by Nexx · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Excuse me? Learning how to effectively manage a corporation, and more importantly, learning how a corporate brain thinks is useless? I'm failing to see how the MBA will be useless to anyone with visions of starting a company, which is what went through my head when I first saw the /. article.

    15. Re:MBA? by SirGeek · · Score: 4, Funny
      Because MBA'ers get all the girls.

      You mean NBA'ers get all the girls (even the underage ones).

    16. Re:MBA? by Epi-man · · Score: 4, Insightful

      When I was trying to decide whether to return to school for my graduate degrees, a professor told me a saying I found most profound, "knowledge is a form of wealth that can not be stolen from you." Perhaps Alan wishes to enrich himself, no?

    17. Re:MBA? by Glock27 · · Score: 3, Informative
      And a few less people who've swallowed the "H1B holders do the same work for much less" bullshit.

      No, it's more like "H1B holders do more work for the same money", i.e. 80 hour weeks with no complaints, on salary. And that salary will be at the bottom of the relevant scale, every time.

      Further, the use of H1B holders is stupid for two unrelated reasons: you're shipping money to overseas economies, and you're training a workforce to compete against you once it returns home (which most do).

      Again, using H1B workers and/or outsourcing is moronic in the long run, and is against the best interests of the United States and it's citizens.

      Those are the facts, Jack.

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  4. Re:Naww!!! by DickBreath · · Score: 4, Informative

    He just got scared off by SCO!!

    The 2.2 kernel, which he maintains, is the one that SCO claims is free of supposed IP infringements. It is the 2.4 and later kernels which SCO claims were written mostly by SCO. (Millions of lines vs. a total of 4.4 million lines.)

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  5. the truth! by borgdows · · Score: 5, Funny

    Liars!

    The Truth is that Alan Cox has resigned from Linux development since he's not able to pay us the required development license (69,900$) we were asking to him. He preferred giving up instead of being sued to death as he deserves.

    Cheers,

    -- Darl MacBride

    1. Re:the truth! by Felinoid · · Score: 4, Funny

      That may be the plan....

      Linux thrives on it's coders not it's users.
      (However a good chunk of it's users are coders and realisticly the users are head hunters for more coders)

      Yester it was:
      Hi I'm Timmy age 6 I made a rocket out of used toilet paper rolls.
      (An impressive feat. The reason kids projects are inferoer to adult projects is available resources.)

      Today it's :
      Hi I'm mike age 3 I fixed 37 bugs in the Linux kernel increased speed 7 times and created a feature critical to making the next generation computers possable.

      Tomarow it's:
      Hi I'm Steve age 2 I've learnned to steal becouse there is less chance of me going to jail for shoplifting than be sued by someone clamming they own the code I wrote.
      (I was going to correct my grammer but I remembered that Steve is 2... I'll be dammed if a 2 year old has better grammer than I do.
      A 5 year old yes.. but not a 2 year old)

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  6. Summer job? by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 4, Funny

    Summer job at SCO, reviewing code?

  7. Re:Explain to me.. by Zachary+Kessin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    the 2.2 kernel is basicly unchanging, but that does not mean that bugs don't get found from time to time. So he is incharge of the folks who fix those, as well as updates to drivers etc.

    Good Luck with your MBA Alan! I went back to finish my BA at 28 and it was not easy to do in some ways, but it was really worth it.

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  8. Re:Naww!!! by Rogerborg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's today. Who knows what tomorrow will bring.

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  9. Taking Over by njvic · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Now it sounds like the 2.2 kernel is up for grabs to someone who is 'good at refusing patches and being ignored'...

    OK here's the chance for a question I've always had to be answered.

    What is the process involved in getting someone to take over 2.2 kernel and who has the final say in who is selected? I have always been curious about the more politcal side of GNU/Linux and your answers would be much appreciated.

    Cheers!
    1. Re:Taking Over by Error27 · · Score: 4, Informative

      The easy part of the question is that Linus has final say.

      It's more tricky to say who will take over. Probably a kernel developer who uses 2.2 at work. Quite a few companies still use 2.2 but most kernel developers prefer to use 2.6 or 2.4. Maintaining an older kernel is boring...

  10. Alan Cox is going to the NBA?? by jetkust · · Score: 4, Funny

    What team is he playing for?

  11. Suggestion by TrailerTrash · · Score: 5, Funny

    I nominate Darl McBride. He has an intimate knowledge of the Linux kernel, intellectual property issues, and has a relationship with the Linux developer community.

  12. Happy thought... by HiQ · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm glad it's a MBA and not a MCSE 8)

  13. What timing. by digrieze · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The timing on this is incredible. The most stable kernal we've got that isn't under the SCO shadow is now effectively frozen, thereby preventing any potential code polution. Cox may have just provided the instant way out if SCO wins. I wonder if this is accidental or sheer genious?

    Good luck Alan with the MBA, maybe you'll get paid what you're worth (finally).

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  14. Re:Naww!!! by Rhubarb+Crumble · · Score: 3, Informative
    Slightly off-topic, but how come all of the Linux kernels are even numbers (as in 2.2, 2.4 and soon 2.6)? I've never seen an odd digit at the end.

    Stable versions have even final digits. Odd final digits (2.1, 2.3, 2.5...) indicate 'development' versions.

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  16. swap jobs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I have an MBA but have been interested in linux kernel development. Alan, could we just swap jobs for a year?

  17. Re:stupid question by cK-Gunslinger · · Score: 4, Funny

    Only if you use a Windows 9x version. Linux has superior SMP support.

  18. Papers? by Garion911 · · Score: 4, Funny

    What happens when one of his professors asks for an electronic copy in Word format?

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  19. An MBA has Nothing To Do With Coding Jobs by Carnage4Life · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Apart from being 'funny', honestly why would Alan Cox need any degree or certification? He can go to any Linux development company and put his resume on the table:

    All of Alan Cox's credentials as a kernel hacker can get him is a job as a coder (software developer, senior developer, development lead, etc). In some places it may be enough to get him a job as a software architect depending on the kind of company he tries to get work at.

    However if Alan wants to break into upper management or start his own company then all his l337 kernel hacking skills aren't worth a hill of beans compared to the knowledge he could get from an MBA and the doors it opens.

    Funnily enough, I was just thinking about going back to school for an MBA in a year or two but wondered if it would be a bad idea for a person so interested in technical pursuits. But if Alan Cox can do it I don't see why I can't.

    Thanks for the inspiration Alan.

  20. SCO CEO by rfg · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Linux guru Alan Cox is taking a year off from RedHat and kernel development to get his MBA."

    Obviously, RedHat figures they'll own SCO soon and need someone with an MBA to manage it for them. Alan Cox to the rescue!

  21. Re:a year to get an MBA? by malraid · · Score: 3, Funny

    Well, he is taking a shortcut. Most likely he is stealing some credits from SCO.

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  22. Re:stupid question by twilight30 · · Score: 3, Informative

    No, not at all a dumb question. North American MBAs take two years on average.

    Europe, on the other hand, offers a bucketload of one-year Master's programmes; it's not limited to just MBA programmes. (I did an MSc in London that was like this.) Generally 'taught' Masters are shorter than the 'research' Masters, the latter of which are considered the priming ground for PhD programmes (in both the UK and the US). Unlike the US, though, nonMBA Masters are considered pretty good in their own right.

    Good luck to Cox, though. I'm looking into an MBA myself and it does not look nice. Pointy heads, here I come...

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  23. Re:a year to get an MBA? by Talthane · · Score: 4, Informative

    Sorry, you're thinking of the wrong country. In the UK, it takes 3-4 years for a degree; 1 year for a Masters (MBA); and then the doctorates can yawn on as long as a decade, if you can come up with cunning enough proposals for funding. About the only similarity with the American system is the names, really - and the dry personalities that result from 20-odd years in academia when some folk emerge blinking into the world. :-)

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  24. Re:University Lecturer? by gpinzone · · Score: 3, Funny

    Maybe he want to be a PHB and give lectures to employees.

  25. Re:The $699 question... by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Informative
    I would assume that he's going go back to the University of Wales, Swansea since that's where he got his first degree, and he still lives in Swansea.

    Oh, and we do get quite a few geeks applying here already for a chance to meet Alan. Most of them have seen the credit to the Swansea University Computer Society in the Linux kernel boot messages.

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  26. Welsh!!! by tvm662 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Well good luck to Alan.

    No doubt he will breeze throught the MBA, but learning welsh is another matter, its a really really hard language to learn.

    For example in most languages you have to learn how the verbs change in the sentance, but in welsh the nouns change too! For example the welsh word for Wales is Cymru, but when you say Welcome to Wales, "Croeso i Gymru", the C changes to a G. My patents both tried to learn and found it very hard. But then Alan may be like a lot of Welsh people who learnt welsh at school and has forgotten it since in which case picking it up again might not be too bad.

    Tom.

  27. Re:MBA?? AMERICA CENTRIC AGAIN!!! by oni · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Again I must tell you that you are AMERICA CENTRIC

    It amuses me that the very first hit on google from the query "What is an MBA" just happens to be a web site in New Zealand

    Here it is: The New Zealand MBA Association

    Clearly, MBA is not an America-centric term. I suspect your definition of America Centric is "anything I haven't heard of" though.

  28. Re:MBA?? AMERICA CENTRIC AGAIN!!! by AceM2 · · Score: 3, Informative

    What country do you live in anyway? You can get an MBA in America, Canada, China, Japan, Australia, Singapore, Korea, India, Mexico, Spain, France, Britain, Norway, Germany, Russia, South Africa, Chile, Argentina, Israel, Brazil, Panama, and I'm not even searching google to find out more.. If you're over the age of 16, have gone to school, in a country with enough tech to have libraries and internet access, and unless you live in a hut or an adobe somewhere in a bombed out country, you should be able to find out what an MBA is pretty easily..

  29. Re:Naww!!! by DickBreath · · Score: 4, Funny

    Even numberd kernels behave as you would expect Linux to behave. Odd numbered kernels behave as you would expect Windows to behave.

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  30. Re:I know this is supposed to be funny by pmz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But Word actually is the most useful document exchange format today...

    No, Word is the worst possible exchange format. It is proprietary to one corporation, it is a vector for script-based viruses, the tools that read it (other than Microsoft's products) cannot do so reliabily and predictably, and much of the world's population cannot and should not be expected to afford the MS Office software.

    Given, also, the recent revival of awareness about hidden information exchanged in Word documents, Word is not only a terrible format in principle, but it is a threat to privacy and security in a most fundamental way.

    So, Anonymous Astroturfer, you should go back to your cube and rethink your strategy for spreading lies into the public consciousness.

    For basic exhange of information, the best formats are plain text (for text, obviously) or PDF (for type-set documents). Other formats are just asking for trouble.

  31. Re:I know this is supposed to be funny by pmz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Now this sounds pretty well-rehearsed.

    That's because it is true.

    When will people start realizing that there are free tools to handle Word format...

    Where are they? Are they 100% compatible with Microsoft's undocumented, proprietary, and volatile document format? It is impossible for these tools to live up to their promises when there is a 100% likelihood their reverse-engineering efforts came up short.

    Word is the format of choice even in the free-software-world

    Only when Microsoft releases a 100% complete and comprehensible document explaining every aspect of the Word formats (yes there are more than one). Given that it is not in their financial interest to do so, I can guarantee that Word will basically never become the format of choice outside of the Microsoft micro-universe.

    The most likely outcome is that one of the emerging XML formats, such as that for OpenOffice.org, will become the de-facto standard for editable document exchange. By then, I hope that Microsoft will be little more than a niche figment of their former selves (not unlike SCO, soon).

  32. Re:Which B-school, Alan? by aallan · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm curious as to which B-school Alan will be attending. Will it be in the Raleigh/Durham area?

    Eh! Last time I looked Alan lived in Swansea, in Wales, you know the United Kingdom? Despite appearances to the contratry, we have not yet picked the country up and moved it across the Atlantic to become another State...

    Al.
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  33. Life after Linux by BigGerman · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I understand there is a small group of people (4-10) who are the highest level developers of Linux kernel. They are maintainers of the particular version trees, large areas of the kernel, etc.
    This group is very small. What will happen when significant percentage of them loses interest in further kernel development? What will happen if Linus himself moves on?
    And how does Linux situation compare to other OSS projects - Apache, BSD?

  34. Re:I know this is supposed to be funny by pmz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Unless you can think of another file format that copes with tables, images, headers, footers, embedded documents, version control and all the other things that most of us use on a regular basis.

    Perhaps the Docbook editor being added to OpenOffice.org will provide some relief. HTML isn't totally out of question, either (except that Word screws up HTML, too). And, once OpenOffice.org picks up more steam, its own plain-text XML file format should be widely understood, too.

    Non-trivial documents should be done in LaTeX or Docbook, anyway, because they are much more robust and capable than Word. Word is really only appropriate for memos or reports, at most. Textbooks and standards documents done in Word are pretty sad.

  35. New language by amightywind · · Score: 3, Funny
    and on the pet side project of learning Welsh.

    Is that related to Lisp?

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