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Linux Guru Alan Cox Takes A Year Off

An anonymous reader writes "Linux guru Alan Cox is taking a year off from RedHat and kernel development to get his MBA. For years, Alan Cox has maintained the extremely stable 2.2 Linux kernel, and more or less been Linux creator Linus Torvalds' right hand man. Now it sounds like the 2.2 kernel is up for grabs to someone who is 'good at refusing patches and being ignored'..."

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  1. Naww!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    He just got scared off by SCO!!

    1. Re:Naww!!! by DickBreath · · Score: 4, Informative

      He just got scared off by SCO!!

      The 2.2 kernel, which he maintains, is the one that SCO claims is free of supposed IP infringements. It is the 2.4 and later kernels which SCO claims were written mostly by SCO. (Millions of lines vs. a total of 4.4 million lines.)

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    2. Re:Naww!!! by Rogerborg · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That's today. Who knows what tomorrow will bring.

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    3. Re:Naww!!! by Rhubarb+Crumble · · Score: 3, Informative
      Slightly off-topic, but how come all of the Linux kernels are even numbers (as in 2.2, 2.4 and soon 2.6)? I've never seen an odd digit at the end.

      Stable versions have even final digits. Odd final digits (2.1, 2.3, 2.5...) indicate 'development' versions.

    4. Re:Naww!!! by DickBreath · · Score: 4, Funny

      Even numberd kernels behave as you would expect Linux to behave. Odd numbered kernels behave as you would expect Windows to behave.

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  2. I'm good at being ignored by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    and I've been lobbying for the position for quite some time now, but so far no replies.

    hmmm....

    1. Re:I'm good at being ignored by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Sorry... what was that again? I wasn't paying attention...

  3. Whew, they changed the story... by Craig+Maloney · · Score: 5, Funny

    Before, the story read that he was taking a year off to get his MBNA. Sheesh, I get at least two offers a month from those bohos for instant credit. :)

  4. MBA? by tinrobot · · Score: 5, Funny

    What does a Linux kernel coding god need with an MBA?

    1. Re:MBA? by cerberusss · · Score: 5, Funny
      What does a Linux kernel coding god need with an MBA?
      Because MBA'ers get all the girls.
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    2. Re:MBA? by Mournblade · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, the SCO suit is going to result in Linux being declared illegal, so he'll need a new career.

    3. Re:MBA? by mnmn · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Apart from being 'funny', honestly why would Alan Cox need any degree or certification? He can go to any Linux development company and put his resume on the table:

      Alan Cox.

      Unless the HR manager is a college assistant who has Bonzi Buddy installed on her Windows laptop, Alan will get hired. I suppose some larger companies have policies to honor degrees at all levels of the management and Senior Cox is getting ambitious. In that case it kinda gets sad to see him planning to manage rather than code.

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    4. Re:MBA? by ralphus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Is it totally crazy to think that he just might *want* one?

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    5. Re:MBA? by ReadParse · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well, I can understand this, even though I've never been quite the academic. I'm sure he doesn't need it for employment, but rather because he wants the education itself. And that's admirable.

      RP

    6. Re:MBA? by anthonyrcalgary · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Because learning is fun and you can't learn everything you want to know by coding alone.

      And he might want to teach.

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    7. Re:MBA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Maybe he aspires to more than computer programming has to offer, namely a mediocre salary plus RSI. Maybe he wants to be in a position where he can make important decisions once in a while.

      Signed,
      A Bitter Programmer.

    8. Re:MBA? by mikeee · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And if he wants to start a business, or be upper management, a (good, not diploma mill) MBA will be a big win.

    9. Re:MBA? by Mandi+Walls · · Score: 3, Funny

      Know Thy Enemies

    10. Re:MBA? by stilwebm · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Apart from being 'funny', honestly why would Alan Cox need any degree or certification? He can go to any Linux development company and put his resume on the table:

      Unlike the world of MCSEs and A+ certifications, you don't go and "get" a degree. You earn a degree by learning important skills. He is not going to school just to get a piece of paper. In the case of an MBA, he will learn important management skills that take many years of real-world experience to learn. In business school, that take 1 to 2 years to master many of the skills.

      Perhaps he wants to start a business? He is a great coder, good at managing source code trees, but an MBA will teach him about managing a business. Alan obviously isn't just trying to improve his resume, he's trying to improve himself.

    11. Re:MBA? by grug0 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Yeah, America is just so darned under-productive and economically lagging behind powerhouses like Europe and Japan.

      To get back to the point, perhaps the guy wants to round out his education and skills. I know many people who find specialising in science and technology alone stifling.

    12. Re:MBA? by gallir · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Because "the security of getting hired at any time" doesn't always mean your goals, wishes and desire for learning new things are already fulfilled.

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    13. Re:MBA? by killmenow · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I have ~ 15 years of technical experience and I would love an MBA. Why? So I could have a better idea what goes on in the mind of the CEO. I just don't get the thinking a lot of times.

      The education provided in the MBA path is (to me) no more than a window into the vagaries of the management mind. A scary thought, indeed...but who doesn't wonder the "whys" of management?

    14. Re:MBA? by realnowhereman · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Degree != real-world experience.

      I've got both, as I'm sure do many on slashdot. The two are symbiotic, not the same.

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    15. Re:MBA? by PeteQC · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Maybe because he wants, like most of us, Linux to have a larger utilisation in a business environment.

      It's still the best diploma in management. So, if he knows how a business work, maybe I'll be a lot more helpful in bringing Linux to the enterprise!

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    16. Re:MBA? by an_mo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It is a little crazy. I hope I am not offending anyone (I probably will) but you don't learn much studying for an MBA, it's only a piece of paper you need to get certain jobs which he probably can get anyway, having proven leadership and management skills on the field. I'd have better understood if he wanted a degree in ancient greek.

    17. Re:MBA? by sql*kitten · · Score: 4, Informative

      Degree != real-world experience. I've got both, as I'm sure do many on slashdot. The two are symbiotic, not the same.

      A good MBA programme won't take you without experience. Typical students have worked for 3 to 8 years before applying to B-school.

    18. Re:MBA? by Nexx · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Excuse me? Learning how to effectively manage a corporation, and more importantly, learning how a corporate brain thinks is useless? I'm failing to see how the MBA will be useless to anyone with visions of starting a company, which is what went through my head when I first saw the /. article.

    19. Re:MBA? by SirGeek · · Score: 4, Funny
      Because MBA'ers get all the girls.

      You mean NBA'ers get all the girls (even the underage ones).

    20. Re:MBA? by Epi-man · · Score: 4, Insightful

      When I was trying to decide whether to return to school for my graduate degrees, a professor told me a saying I found most profound, "knowledge is a form of wealth that can not be stolen from you." Perhaps Alan wishes to enrich himself, no?

    21. Re:MBA? by mcgroarty · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Hint: Armed with an MBA, he'll be every venture capitalist's wet dream.

    22. Re:MBA? by natet · · Score: 2, Funny

      My theory is that he got tired of all the respect he's gotten over the years from technical professionals.

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    23. Re:MBA? by Glock27 · · Score: 3, Informative
      And a few less people who've swallowed the "H1B holders do the same work for much less" bullshit.

      No, it's more like "H1B holders do more work for the same money", i.e. 80 hour weeks with no complaints, on salary. And that salary will be at the bottom of the relevant scale, every time.

      Further, the use of H1B holders is stupid for two unrelated reasons: you're shipping money to overseas economies, and you're training a workforce to compete against you once it returns home (which most do).

      Again, using H1B workers and/or outsourcing is moronic in the long run, and is against the best interests of the United States and it's citizens.

      Those are the facts, Jack.

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    24. Re:MBA? by stilwebm · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Thank you. I should have added that to my post. Alan Cox has years of experience coding and managing coders on various levels but probably knows little about financing a business, human resources, or business law, for examples. An MBA will augment his intelligence and experience. I'm very interested in seeing what he will use it for.

    25. Re:MBA? by Stuntmonkey · · Score: 2, Insightful

      > Further, the use of H1B holders is stupid for two unrelated reasons: you're shipping money to overseas economies,

      And why exactly should a CEO of an American corporation care about this?

      > and you're training a workforce to compete against you once it returns home (which most do).

      Can you name for me a single example where an American company has suffered at the hands of competition from individuals it once employed on H1B visas?

      My point: The H1B visa program may or may not be good for the US economy as a whole, but that is a completely separate issue from whether it's a good business decision for US Corporation X to employ H1B workers. If you dislike the H1B program, yell at your government officials, not at CEOs.

    26. Re:MBA? by gwappo · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Further, the use of H1B holders is stupid for two unrelated reasons: you're shipping money to overseas economies, and you're training a workforce to compete against you once it returns home (which most do).

      Silly me, and here I was thinking economy was not about holding on to money but about circulating money. The higher the pace of circulation, the better the economy.

      Should the world follow your advice then not only world trade would slowly grind to a halt but your cost of living would sky-rocket, eventually setting you back to the middle ages.

      Using H1B workers is an interim solution to a longer term problem. The longer term problem is that of off-shore competition.

      India's body-shopping business right now is negligable compared to what might happen if they start building and selling meaningful software themselves, instead of being hired to do so.

      In your zero H1B visa world, the US will cease to develop software as it does now.

      For this to happen, the pace of innovation in computer science needs to slow and the quality of computer science education of India needs to level with the western world.

      I believe this is happening.

      But good luck with your isolationist agenda there.

      That, mr. Anderson, is the sound of inevitability

    27. Re:MBA? by spectecjr · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Using H1B workers accomplished nothing except to lower costs for American companies. The espoused "lack of technical talent" was a myth. There is/was an abundance of talent, however it was more experienced/expensive than the CEOs wanted to pay. Therefore the push for increased numbers of imported, entry-level foreign workers.

      You were around for the Dot Com boom, right? Where everyone who claimed to be able to code HTML was treated like a C developer?

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  5. the truth! by borgdows · · Score: 5, Funny

    Liars!

    The Truth is that Alan Cox has resigned from Linux development since he's not able to pay us the required development license (69,900$) we were asking to him. He preferred giving up instead of being sued to death as he deserves.

    Cheers,

    -- Darl MacBride

    1. Re:the truth! by Felinoid · · Score: 4, Funny

      That may be the plan....

      Linux thrives on it's coders not it's users.
      (However a good chunk of it's users are coders and realisticly the users are head hunters for more coders)

      Yester it was:
      Hi I'm Timmy age 6 I made a rocket out of used toilet paper rolls.
      (An impressive feat. The reason kids projects are inferoer to adult projects is available resources.)

      Today it's :
      Hi I'm mike age 3 I fixed 37 bugs in the Linux kernel increased speed 7 times and created a feature critical to making the next generation computers possable.

      Tomarow it's:
      Hi I'm Steve age 2 I've learnned to steal becouse there is less chance of me going to jail for shoplifting than be sued by someone clamming they own the code I wrote.
      (I was going to correct my grammer but I remembered that Steve is 2... I'll be dammed if a 2 year old has better grammer than I do.
      A 5 year old yes.. but not a 2 year old)

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  6. Summer job? by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 4, Funny

    Summer job at SCO, reviewing code?

  7. Re:Explain to me.. by Zachary+Kessin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    the 2.2 kernel is basicly unchanging, but that does not mean that bugs don't get found from time to time. So he is incharge of the folks who fix those, as well as updates to drivers etc.

    Good Luck with your MBA Alan! I went back to finish my BA at 28 and it was not easy to do in some ways, but it was really worth it.

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  8. Taking Over by njvic · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Now it sounds like the 2.2 kernel is up for grabs to someone who is 'good at refusing patches and being ignored'...

    OK here's the chance for a question I've always had to be answered.

    What is the process involved in getting someone to take over 2.2 kernel and who has the final say in who is selected? I have always been curious about the more politcal side of GNU/Linux and your answers would be much appreciated.

    Cheers!
    1. Re:Taking Over by Sonicated · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I have always been curious about the more politcal side of GNU/Linux and your answers would be much appreciated.

      The structure of Linux development and the GNU project are two totally different things. I'd recommend that you read The Cathedral and the Bazaar to get an idea. Essentially the GNU project is nothing to do with Linux.

    2. Re:Taking Over by Error27 · · Score: 4, Informative

      The easy part of the question is that Linus has final say.

      It's more tricky to say who will take over. Probably a kernel developer who uses 2.2 at work. Quite a few companies still use 2.2 but most kernel developers prefer to use 2.6 or 2.4. Maintaining an older kernel is boring...

    3. Re:Taking Over by gid · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm pretty sure, it's Linus that appoints people. After all, it's HIS kernel. If people don't like that, they're more than welcome to fork.

      As far as the process getting involved? Start hacking away, submit patches, maybe eventually you'll get bitkeeper access and Linus will start trusting you and your judgement. You'll fall into you're own little role hacking away on the kernel, adding cool stuff, fixing bugs, etc.. Those are the people that are chosen for stable kernel maintenance.

  9. Alan Cox is going to the NBA?? by jetkust · · Score: 4, Funny

    What team is he playing for?

    1. Re:Alan Cox is going to the NBA?? by kurosawdust · · Score: 2, Funny
      the Grizzlies, of course.

      I dunno about you, but I've already bought my tickets in advance for his match against the Clippers...

  10. Suggestion by TrailerTrash · · Score: 5, Funny

    I nominate Darl McBride. He has an intimate knowledge of the Linux kernel, intellectual property issues, and has a relationship with the Linux developer community.

  11. Re:Explain to me.. by levell · · Score: 2, Informative
    Basically no new features will be added to 2.2 but if there is a security vulnerabilty then a new version would be released (the version number would be 2.2.x where x is 1 more than the current revision, that's why there's a third part to the version number!)

    Patches can land on the current stable branch too (2.4.x) but normally only to fix bugs or add things that are very low risk.

    As you surmised most new development happens in the latest version 2.5.x which is currently in the process of becoming the next stable branch: 2.6.x

    Sorry if I'm spelling it out too much :)

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  12. Happy thought... by HiQ · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm glad it's a MBA and not a MCSE 8)

  13. What timing. by digrieze · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The timing on this is incredible. The most stable kernal we've got that isn't under the SCO shadow is now effectively frozen, thereby preventing any potential code polution. Cox may have just provided the instant way out if SCO wins. I wonder if this is accidental or sheer genious?

    Good luck Alan with the MBA, maybe you'll get paid what you're worth (finally).

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  15. a year to get an MBA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    i highly doubt that.. it takes AT LEAST 3, if lucky, years to get an MBA..

    1. Re:a year to get an MBA? by RazzleFrog · · Score: 2, Informative

      It typically takes two years full time and that includes a summer internship. That is with 15 credits a semester. Alan is a smart guy and he might try to scrunch that together more. It depends on where he is getting the degree, of coures. The 3 plus years you are thinking about are executive or part-time MBA's that only have two classes per semester.

    2. Re:a year to get an MBA? by malraid · · Score: 3, Funny

      Well, he is taking a shortcut. Most likely he is stealing some credits from SCO.

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    3. Re:a year to get an MBA? by Talthane · · Score: 4, Informative

      Sorry, you're thinking of the wrong country. In the UK, it takes 3-4 years for a degree; 1 year for a Masters (MBA); and then the doctorates can yawn on as long as a decade, if you can come up with cunning enough proposals for funding. About the only similarity with the American system is the names, really - and the dry personalities that result from 20-odd years in academia when some folk emerge blinking into the world. :-)

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  16. Re:Well if it's up for grabs... by BlackHawk-666 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I think they mean getting ignored by Linus when he submits patches to him. Linus is world famous for ignoring patches multiple times and never replying to emails.

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  17. Re:Suggestion by kurosawdust · · Score: 2, Funny

    I imagine he'd also be excellent at "refusing patches and being ignored"...

  18. To Quote My Parents by Raven42rac · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "You're taking a year off, do you want to be a loser or something?" Is Alan like, insecure about his job prospects, or just likes learning? I would err towards the latter.

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  19. swap jobs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I have an MBA but have been interested in linux kernel development. Alan, could we just swap jobs for a year?

  20. Re:stupid question by cK-Gunslinger · · Score: 4, Funny

    Only if you use a Windows 9x version. Linux has superior SMP support.

  21. Papers? by Garion911 · · Score: 4, Funny

    What happens when one of his professors asks for an electronic copy in Word format?

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  22. An MBA has Nothing To Do With Coding Jobs by Carnage4Life · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Apart from being 'funny', honestly why would Alan Cox need any degree or certification? He can go to any Linux development company and put his resume on the table:

    All of Alan Cox's credentials as a kernel hacker can get him is a job as a coder (software developer, senior developer, development lead, etc). In some places it may be enough to get him a job as a software architect depending on the kind of company he tries to get work at.

    However if Alan wants to break into upper management or start his own company then all his l337 kernel hacking skills aren't worth a hill of beans compared to the knowledge he could get from an MBA and the doors it opens.

    Funnily enough, I was just thinking about going back to school for an MBA in a year or two but wondered if it would be a bad idea for a person so interested in technical pursuits. But if Alan Cox can do it I don't see why I can't.

    Thanks for the inspiration Alan.

    1. Re:An MBA has Nothing To Do With Coding Jobs by G3ckoG33k · · Score: 2, Funny

      "However if Alan wants to break into upper management or start his own company then all his l337 kernel hacking skills aren't worth a hill of beans compared to the knowledge he could get from an MBA and the doors it opens. "

      But, from what I've learnt, he better get a major haircut before those doors are closed. ;)

    2. Re:An MBA has Nothing To Do With Coding Jobs by pi_rules · · Score: 2, Funny

      Funnily enough, I was just thinking about going back to school for an MBA in a year or two but wondered if it would be a bad idea for a person so interested in technical pursuits. But if Alan Cox can do it I don't see why I can't.

      Thanks for the inspiration Alan.


      I totally agree. Alan's an inspiration. In fact, I'm going to quit trimming my beard and grab me some sweet ass black shades.

      Well, I'd like to at least, but once my beard gets to be 2 inches long (around 5cm for those of you outside the USA) I look Amish. Way Amish. Random people will see me and shout, "Yo! Jebidiah, whassup?!" across the road. Nobody would hire an Amish coder or admin. Maybe a job in QA would work, but the interviewer would probably be afraid that I'd try and turn the whole system into a horse/hampster powered contraption made of wood.

      "Payroll will be out as soon as the vet clears the horse for running again." Yeah.... that wouldn't go over well.

      How the fsck can somebody take over the 2.2 tree w/out the massive angry-Gnome like beard? It's not not fair. Curse my Irish heritage!

      Oh yeah, that's the other one I get. Leprechaun look-alike. I bear a striking resemblence to the Notre Dame mascot. See here for an example.

      I'm hosed. Who needs a professional butter churner? I'm in.
  23. And when he gets back by Carrion+Creeper · · Score: 2, Funny

    Alan: I'm back! Can I have my kernel now?

    New Maintainer: Noooooooo! Mine!

    Alan: but...

    Possibly the willingness to give it back should be a quilification, unless Alan wants it back as his own personal branch.

  24. SCO CEO by rfg · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Linux guru Alan Cox is taking a year off from RedHat and kernel development to get his MBA."

    Obviously, RedHat figures they'll own SCO soon and need someone with an MBA to manage it for them. Alan Cox to the rescue!

  25. Re:stupid question by twilight30 · · Score: 3, Informative

    No, not at all a dumb question. North American MBAs take two years on average.

    Europe, on the other hand, offers a bucketload of one-year Master's programmes; it's not limited to just MBA programmes. (I did an MSc in London that was like this.) Generally 'taught' Masters are shorter than the 'research' Masters, the latter of which are considered the priming ground for PhD programmes (in both the UK and the US). Unlike the US, though, nonMBA Masters are considered pretty good in their own right.

    Good luck to Cox, though. I'm looking into an MBA myself and it does not look nice. Pointy heads, here I come...

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  26. A year off from what? by stratjakt · · Score: 2, Funny

    From his part time hobby?

    I need to take a year off from playing playstation, it's hard work, I need to focus on my edumcation.

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  27. Alan Who? by heironymouscoward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Sorry, bad joke. Ahem...

    Dear Alan,

    Thanks for the good work. We owe you one.

    Sincerely,
    Geeks of the World

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  28. He'll use Word ... by AHumbleOpinion · · Score: 2, Insightful

    He'll use Word. MBA's are about money not philosophy. One of the skills learned is not pissing off those above you.

  29. Re:MBA?? AMERICA CENTRIC AGAIN!!! by MadBiologist · · Score: 2, Informative

    Masters of Business Administration -- Masters degree in the science of running a business -- used mainly for boss types

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  30. The $699 question... by adamofgreyskull · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...what uni is he going to? Moreover..how many geeks would apply there just to be near him? :o)

    1. Re:The $699 question... by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Informative
      I would assume that he's going go back to the University of Wales, Swansea since that's where he got his first degree, and he still lives in Swansea.

      Oh, and we do get quite a few geeks applying here already for a chance to meet Alan. Most of them have seen the credit to the Swansea University Computer Society in the Linux kernel boot messages.

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  31. Re:MBA?? AMERICA CENTRIC AGAIN!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    You know, search engines still work in whatever backwards ass country you're posting from. Unless you're from China, of course.

  32. Re:University Lecturer? by gpinzone · · Score: 3, Funny

    Maybe he want to be a PHB and give lectures to employees.

  33. Vice Linus Torvalds Who? by 4of12 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've always been impressed with how much Alan Cox does for the Linux kernel.

    He's technically very sharp and handles an incredible amount of incoming patches, very professionally.

    For his talents, he ought to be paid handsomely, but for a number of years he's simply been a trusted chief lieutenant in charge of operations for the Linux kernel. Linus gets his mug on the magazines, while Alan Cox is pretty much known only in the geek community.

    I hope Alan's MBA brings him the money he deserves. However, Linux kernel development will hiccough a bit more without him releasing all these 2.6.x-ac? kernels.

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  34. Re:Guess which kernel everybody's gonna switch to. by Metasquares · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If SCO somehow manages to pull off a win in court (Which is highly unlikely, especially considering that they've based their latest case on a misreading of copyright law), all the developers would have to do is remove the "infringing" code from the 2.4 kernel and replace it with new code. People who absolutely need a working Linux system the day after the case might switch to 2.2, but this won't really affect most users.

    That is, if SCO ever plans on showing the code to the public.

  35. Welsh!!! by tvm662 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Well good luck to Alan.

    No doubt he will breeze throught the MBA, but learning welsh is another matter, its a really really hard language to learn.

    For example in most languages you have to learn how the verbs change in the sentance, but in welsh the nouns change too! For example the welsh word for Wales is Cymru, but when you say Welcome to Wales, "Croeso i Gymru", the C changes to a G. My patents both tried to learn and found it very hard. But then Alan may be like a lot of Welsh people who learnt welsh at school and has forgotten it since in which case picking it up again might not be too bad.

    Tom.

    1. Re:Welsh!!! by tvm662 · · Score: 2, Informative

      When driving to Wales you are only likely to see this on a sign once during your holiday, so its not hard to miss. Google does throw up some instances of Croeso i Cymru, but less of them and at a casual glance they are english language sites.

      The BBC come to my recue and put it more eloquently than I did.

      ...I wonder if you've noticed when driving into Wales from England that Cymru - (Wales) is written with a G on the sign Croeso i Gymru - (Welcome to Wales). This is because the word i - (to) as well as the word o - (from) trigger the soft mutation - and a C softens to a G. Croeso i Gymru.

      Tom.

    2. Re:Welsh!!! by Viol8 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Welsh isn't the only language the nouns change in, Russian is notorious for it. In fact sometimes almost the entire word can change depending on case , plurality etc.
      Of course all the verbs , adjectives and adverbs change too just to make it really fun and natural russian speakers have a tendency to slur words
      together making it impossible sometimes to understand what they're saying. I know how a voice recognition system feels now when you
      say "I see you" and it comes out with "Icy ewe".

  36. Re:MBA?? AMERICA CENTRIC AGAIN!!! by oni · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Again I must tell you that you are AMERICA CENTRIC

    It amuses me that the very first hit on google from the query "What is an MBA" just happens to be a web site in New Zealand

    Here it is: The New Zealand MBA Association

    Clearly, MBA is not an America-centric term. I suspect your definition of America Centric is "anything I haven't heard of" though.

  37. Re:MBA?? AMERICA CENTRIC AGAIN!!! by AceM2 · · Score: 3, Informative

    What country do you live in anyway? You can get an MBA in America, Canada, China, Japan, Australia, Singapore, Korea, India, Mexico, Spain, France, Britain, Norway, Germany, Russia, South Africa, Chile, Argentina, Israel, Brazil, Panama, and I'm not even searching google to find out more.. If you're over the age of 16, have gone to school, in a country with enough tech to have libraries and internet access, and unless you live in a hut or an adobe somewhere in a bombed out country, you should be able to find out what an MBA is pretty easily..

  38. Re:I know this is supposed to be funny by pmz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But Word actually is the most useful document exchange format today...

    No, Word is the worst possible exchange format. It is proprietary to one corporation, it is a vector for script-based viruses, the tools that read it (other than Microsoft's products) cannot do so reliabily and predictably, and much of the world's population cannot and should not be expected to afford the MS Office software.

    Given, also, the recent revival of awareness about hidden information exchanged in Word documents, Word is not only a terrible format in principle, but it is a threat to privacy and security in a most fundamental way.

    So, Anonymous Astroturfer, you should go back to your cube and rethink your strategy for spreading lies into the public consciousness.

    For basic exhange of information, the best formats are plain text (for text, obviously) or PDF (for type-set documents). Other formats are just asking for trouble.

  39. Re:I know this is supposed to be funny by pmz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Now this sounds pretty well-rehearsed.

    That's because it is true.

    When will people start realizing that there are free tools to handle Word format...

    Where are they? Are they 100% compatible with Microsoft's undocumented, proprietary, and volatile document format? It is impossible for these tools to live up to their promises when there is a 100% likelihood their reverse-engineering efforts came up short.

    Word is the format of choice even in the free-software-world

    Only when Microsoft releases a 100% complete and comprehensible document explaining every aspect of the Word formats (yes there are more than one). Given that it is not in their financial interest to do so, I can guarantee that Word will basically never become the format of choice outside of the Microsoft micro-universe.

    The most likely outcome is that one of the emerging XML formats, such as that for OpenOffice.org, will become the de-facto standard for editable document exchange. By then, I hope that Microsoft will be little more than a niche figment of their former selves (not unlike SCO, soon).

  40. Re:Which B-school, Alan? by aallan · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm curious as to which B-school Alan will be attending. Will it be in the Raleigh/Durham area?

    Eh! Last time I looked Alan lived in Swansea, in Wales, you know the United Kingdom? Despite appearances to the contratry, we have not yet picked the country up and moved it across the Atlantic to become another State...

    Al.
    --
    The Daily ACK - Eclectic posts by yet another hacker
  41. Life after Linux by BigGerman · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I understand there is a small group of people (4-10) who are the highest level developers of Linux kernel. They are maintainers of the particular version trees, large areas of the kernel, etc.
    This group is very small. What will happen when significant percentage of them loses interest in further kernel development? What will happen if Linus himself moves on?
    And how does Linux situation compare to other OSS projects - Apache, BSD?

    1. Re:Life after Linux by burns210 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      then, possibly the worst thing to linux could happen: forks.

      even with distrobutions, most everyone sticks with linus' kernel more or less. but if heavy forks were developed, all hell could break lose.

  42. Re:I know this is supposed to be funny by pmz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Unless you can think of another file format that copes with tables, images, headers, footers, embedded documents, version control and all the other things that most of us use on a regular basis.

    Perhaps the Docbook editor being added to OpenOffice.org will provide some relief. HTML isn't totally out of question, either (except that Word screws up HTML, too). And, once OpenOffice.org picks up more steam, its own plain-text XML file format should be widely understood, too.

    Non-trivial documents should be done in LaTeX or Docbook, anyway, because they are much more robust and capable than Word. Word is really only appropriate for memos or reports, at most. Textbooks and standards documents done in Word are pretty sad.

  43. Re:I know this is supposed to be funny by pmz · · Score: 2, Informative

    LaTeX and friends do not even come close.

    When crafting a large textbook, for example, LaTeX really does blow the pants off of Word. It allows a very clear structure to be employed through includes and a structured tagging scheme. It allows EPS graphics from charting applications to be imported. There is long-standing support for indexing and bibliographies. LaTeX can also be managed by version control software, such as CVS, and can be controlled by Makefiles for well-defined and repeatable configuration management. LaTeX's open nature also guarantees that work poured into the textbook won't get lost as the proprietary Word file formats mutate or when Microsoft drops off the face of the planet.

    MS Word is just a bad bet for large documents.

    Daily memos are better as plain text. Data-entry forms are done better in HTML. For everything else...well, there is StarOffice or OpenOffice.org or AbiWord, etc. Quite honestly, there is little reason, anymore, to give Microsoft any money for Word any longer.

  44. New language by amightywind · · Score: 3, Funny
    and on the pet side project of learning Welsh.

    Is that related to Lisp?

    --
    an ill wind that blows no good