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Divx Now Adware Supported Only

bogomip_bandit writes "The divx codec is no longer free, no strings attached. Until recently, when downloading the codec from divx.com, one could select Dr Divx for a price, Divx Pro for a price, the divx codec for free, or the divx codec with bundled adware to help support divx development etc. Recently the site has changed. Now when one visits the download page, the only free codec you can download is adware supported. This means even to just watch divx movies and not do any actual enncoding, one has to install adware on their machine. I for one will be finding a different video codec." Sounds like a good reason (if you needed one) to look curiously at Ogg Theora. Update: 08/20 20:04 GMT by T : Correction: As several readers have pointed out, the bare codec is still available, it's just listed below the payware / adware versions.

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  1. Look further down by jagger · · Score: 5, Informative

    There is a link to download the divx codec (no cost) without the adware below the three main choices. the url is:

    http://download.divx.com/divx/DivX505Bundle.exe

    1. Re:Look further down by Satan+Dumpling · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hehe, he didn't even read the whole page before complaining...

    2. Re:Look further down by k98sven · · Score: 5, Funny

      Wow. Most short-lived story ever.

      Well.. there was that one about SCO showing off infringing code.. :-)

    3. Re:Look further down by daeley · · Score: 4, Funny

      This advert for Ogg Theora brought to you by...Ogg Theora!

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  2. DIVX and porn by Hayzeus · · Score: 4, Funny

    Go together like toast and butter. Looks like some of us are going to have to go out and find girlfriends now...

  3. ffdshow by elohim · · Score: 5, Informative

    There's always ffdshow, a sourceforge project that includes both divx and xvid.

  4. Uhhh... by badasscat · · Score: 5, Informative

    I think you might be missing something: Check here.

    The codec itself is not adware supported. It appears the only thing they've changed is the layout of their downloads page - they've de-emphasized the free codec download, but it's still there.

  5. Heaven Forbid! by Tebriel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Heaven forbid that the developers might want some compensation out of their efforts.

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    1. Re:Heaven Forbid! by FooBarWidget · · Score: 4, Informative

      Compensation, yeah right. Remember OpenDivX? I'll tell you the story.
      At first, Project Mayo created the OpenDivX project. They claimed that it was "an open source version of DivX". (That claim couldn't be any more wrong; OpenDivX was licensed under the OpenDivX license, which wasn't approved by the Open Source Initiative.) Dispite that, people contributed code anyway.
      And on one day (about 1 year later), BAM. Project Mayo suddenly closed the CVS and turned all that code into their own, commercial, proprietary DivX 4 codec. OpenDivX is dead. The end.
      Not only did they stole the work that people contributed, they also took advantage of the confusion. A lot of people (including Slashdotters!) thought DivX 4 == OpenDivX, and thus thought that DivX is open source. That's plain wrong.

      They stole the work of contributors without giving anything back. Sorry but I have no mercy for those guys if they don't receive compensation. DivX.com can go bankrupt as far as I'm concerned.

  6. It was to be expected by ickoonite · · Score: 4, Informative

    DivXNetworks, IIRC, closed the source on an originally open project. This is just the (albeit rather belated) final stage in their evil plans.

    Anyway, DivX sucks! I can't quite see why anyone would bother with it when XviD and FFMPEG are available, both offering vastly superior picture quality. Still, I suppose DivX has the most bullshit and adware, ergo greater end-user appeal...*sigh*

    iqu :)

  7. VLC by justMichael · · Score: 4, Informative

    Why not just use the VideoLAN Client?

    It does a lot more than I will ever need it to.

    1. Re:VLC by ickoonite · · Score: 4, Informative

      As I have said 4 or 5 times on this story now, VLC uses FFMPEG/libavcodec to play back DivX/XviD/other MPEG4 compliant video. Therefore, even if it were the case that it was the codec which displayed the ads, it wouldn't matter, because VLC doesn't use it.

      But as usual, the idiot moderators mod you up as 100% Informative. Those actually informed would know that it is 100% rubbish.

      iqu :s

  8. typical slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    it's amazing that not even the submitter reads the article. At least he mentioned an open source project to get posted.

    Way to go slashdot!

    1. Re:typical slashdot by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 4, Funny
      "it's amazing that not even the submitter reads the article. At least he mentioned an open source project to get posted."

      Lack of uality control is one of the pillars of slashdot.

  9. Re:I for one by ickoonite · · Score: 5, Informative

    VLC, IIRC, uses the superb FFMPEG library for MPEG4-compatible-encoded video playback. Thus it is, fortunately, unaffected by this little bit of evilness.

    VLC, for those unaware, is a superb piece of cross-platform video-playback software, notably allowing region-encumbered DVDs to be played back on different region drives (certainly on Windows, anyway) and playing a load of formats to boot.

    iqu :)

  10. What's with the screwy names? by avalys · · Score: 4, Funny

    Why do the Ogg people keep coming up with such stupid names? Ogg Theora? It sounds like a female character from a bad Star Trek movie. Ogg Vorbis would be her husband.

    I mean seriously, what sounds more professional when you're proposing something to your manager: "We should use Ogg Vorbis!", or "We should use MPEG Layer 3". I know which one I'd rather be saying to my boss.

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    1. Re:What's with the screwy names? by Jaeger · · Score: 5, Informative

      Read the FAQ. If you're too lazy to click:

      Q: Why the name 'Theora?'

      A: Like other Xiph.org Foundation codec projects such as Vorbis or Tarkin, Theora is named after a fictional character. Theora Jones was the name of Edison Carter's 'controller' on the television series Max Headroom. She was played by Amanda Pays.

  11. Anyone know? by whoda · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How can I use my mod points to rate this entire article 'WRONG'? :)

  12. Re:Um, just remove the adware... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    A lot of the divx stuff stops working if you do this, though. What you really need to do is to download the free version that has the adware removed properly

  13. Uhm, it's MPEG4.. by flocto · · Score: 5, Informative

    DivX 4/5 ist MPEG4 compliant, so you don't need the DivX 5 decoder to watch an MPEG4 stream whose creator happened to use the DivX 5 encoder..

  14. Not a bad business model, actually... by DaveJay · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's an interesting idea.

    First, you get the early adopter types to use it and spread it around by offering it for free. These same people start using it to encode movies, because they're techy types.

    Once it hits the mainstream, offer multiple versions -- free, so that techies can still get it and propogate it, and ad-supported, so that nontechs who want the "extra" (ie useless) features will watch the ads.

    Eventually it becomes so common within the mainstream community that you feel you can lose the free version -- the techies will move on to something else, or keep using their old free version, but the established mainstream use will keep growing -- and so will the ad revenue.

    I don't LIKE it, but it certainly seems to have worked. Imagine how difficult it will be to wean our nontechnical family members to a new codec... "But you said DivX was better than all the others, and I don't care about the ads!"

  15. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 4, Interesting

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  16. So fickle by essdodson · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So something is good until someone starts trying to recoup the costs of their investments? Come on folks, get real. Codec development is costly, in addition, so is having it downloaded by millions. Perhaps if more people were willing to give back to projects they wouldn't be forced to do such.

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  17. Re:Forget Ogg, its time for Quicktime by BdosError · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sure, free, no ads. Except for the "Buy QuickTime Pro now?" popup every time you launch it. But at least there aren't any ads.

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  18. How to get around the Adware by Izago909 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You need to have a compiler that can make DLL's. Just create a program that exits as soon at it starts. Run adaware and compile it to a DLL. Copy and rename it to the ones adaware just removed. I can only get it to work with the decoder only. It won't work if you want to encode video.

  19. We need the ability to mod the STORIES by Atario · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Am I right, here, people? Back me up, hah?

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  20. windows media player? by golgotha007 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ok, here's a rant; mod be into oblivion if you like, but i think some users will agree with me here.

    windows media player seemed to be the best player for all kinds of video content while any linux player was, well lacking, mainly with codec support. i remember when windows media player would auto-download a codec and everything worked great.

    lately, i'm having a hard time playing many video files in windows media player and the auto-download codec thingie is a freakin joke. i don't know how many different codec installers i've been thru trying to make sure all codecs are covered (god knows how much adaware software has been deployed on my xp machine in the process).

    frustrated, i've turned to linux for video viewing. i installed mplayer with the gmplayer front end and the w32 codec file.

    now, i can play any codec thrown at me. quicktime? windows formats? no problem.

    also, there's no better satisfaction then when my friends say to me, 'hey, i can't seem to play this video file you gave me.. how did you see it?'

    'with linux.' (did their job just drop? yep, it sure did!)

  21. Gotta hand it to the editors by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 5, Interesting
    This isn't a troll.....but I'm just sayin......ya gotta hand it to the editors to not even check the facts on something as major as this. The story is not ONLY completely wrong, because the free/ad free version is still available, but it also just is a lame attempt to grab eyeballs. I know I immediately checked this out when I read it, because it would have been devastating to my pr0n/anime/borrowed-from -MPAA-movie viewing habit. Seriously, the editors are getting more and more careless here....I hate to say it, but Slashdot is fast approaching the trustworthiness of the NY Times, and thats NOT a compliment.

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  22. Right on the money by Wrexen · · Score: 5, Funny

    Posted by timothy on Wed August 20, 02:42 PM
    from the neither-factual-nor-new dept.

  23. alternatives by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 4, Informative
    "This means even to just watch divx movies and not do any actual enncoding, one has to install adware on their machine."

    This is not correct. Just get the 3ivx codec which is currently $free (but not free as in speech) that plays DivX, XvID and 3ivx flavours of MPEG-4 encoded video and has no spyware. It's available on windows, mac, linux, beos and amiga. Get it - it includes both encoder and decoder, and on windows it installs an AAC (advanded audio coding) directshow filter so you can watch those MPEG-4 compliant videos with MPEG-4 compliant AAC audio streams in WMP. I never installed DivX on my machine but watch DivX video all the time thanks to this.

    And I have seen comparisons showing that the post-filtering if 3ivx actually shows divx and xvid videos better than their own native codecs. YMMV.

    (Note: Please don't quote the doom9.org comparison that said 3ivx encoding was terrible. This is only because the tester used terrible settings for the encoder since the 3ivx team did not respond to their request for good settings.)

  24. Why is this still posted then?? by smkndrkn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Doesn't the correction make this a non-story?

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  25. I'm usually easy on /. editors but... by Maul · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It is absolutely shameful that this was posted. It is hard to believe that /. editors couldn't even be bothered to scroll through the entire download page to see that there is still a link for the fee codec.

    That being said, this does show how vulnerable we are to "bait and switch" methods. Divx has been widely adopted because it was free. If all of a sudden we DID need to pay money or have adware on our PCs to use the newer version, it would cause problems.

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  26. XviD by Tuxinatorium · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yeah, of course old non-adware versions of the divX codec will still be available for a while, but the point is that there won't be any new non-adware versions except the ones you have to buy.

    XviD is a great alternative, which looks just as good as DivX (About 5mb per minute gets you very good quality if encoded properly. 10mb per minute is near DVD quality.)

    It's completely free and GPL'd, and it's also already very popular, by my estimates its the second most popular codec, behind DivX, for the (ilegal) online distribution of movies and TV shows, unlike Ogg Theora which is completely unheard of fringe experimental codec that no serious group has ever used for a release.

    XviD source code

    Nic's XviD binary (best)

    A divX digest page with links to several other, older XviD binaries

  27. Who cares about DivX? by rzei · · Score: 4, Informative

    Who actually cares shit about DivX? We've had ffmpeg for some time! If you are honestly watching videos using windows system.. You need ffdshow directshow filter (yes, it's based on ffmpeg).

    WHY are there headlines like this on the front page? For those who are looking for encoder, mplayer comes with the famous mencoder. If my memory serves me right, latest stable (pre-)release supports latest xvid and DivX encoding options.

    -rzei

  28. Wrong - So remove the damn story! by brnrd · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The whole thing was proved incorrect anyway, so why keep it on the front page?

  29. Please support XViD by Awptimus+Prime · · Score: 5, Insightful


    XViD is on the path to surpass DiVX, being rapidly developed open source.

    Nothing is different for the end-user's experience. Encoding is a teenie bit more flakey than DiVX, but I'd expect it to have surpassed DiVX within a year in the quality/compression department.

    Now only if we can drum up enough support to put Real and QT out of business. >:-)

    http://www.xvid.org/

  30. Wrong by axxackall · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Unless you use Linux, right?

    Wrong. Unless you use Linux/x86. Linux users of non-x86 platforms are not welcome:

    $ tar -zxvf divx4linux-std-20030428.tar.gz
    divx4linux-2003042 8/
    divx4linux-20030428/libdivxencore.so
    divx4lin ux-20030428/libdivxdecore.so
    divx4linux-20030428/ DivX MPEG-4 Codec and Its Interface.htm
    divx4linux-20030428/encore2.h
    divx 4linux-20030428/install.sh
    divx4linux-20030428/po rtab.h
    divx4linux-20030428/decore.h
    $ file divx4linux-20030428/libdivxencore.so
    divx4linux-2 0030428/libdivxencore.so: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), not stripped
    $ file divx4linux-20030428/libdivxdecore.so
    divx4linux-2 0030428/libdivxdecore.so: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), not stripped
    $
    And as you can see the source code is not available.
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  31. Re:XviD by molarmass192 · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's completely free and GPL'd

    Not quite, you have to remember to send your payment to the MPEG LA group for a "Patent Portfolio License". There are a ton of patents in MPEG4. Here's an interesting link about a "per stream" fee MPEG LA is even considering

    Ogg Theora also has patents on the VP3 video codec but the license agreement makes it clear there are no royalties due for using or repackaging VP3. One of the key reasons why it's "fringe" is because it's hasn't been released as anything other than developer builds on Linux as of yet so there are no tools other than proofs of concept for creating and playing Ogg Theora streams yet.

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  32. Am I the only one disturbed? by Merk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm pretty disturbed by the fact that:

    • This story made the front page without even the slightest attempt at fact checking
    • The story is still on the front page with the headline "Divx Now Adware Supported Only"

    I mean, I know Slashdot isn't the New York Times. I know it's fun to laugh at the lousy jobs the editors do, and the lousy job the people submitting stories do, and how awful people's spelling and grammar are, but c'mon! This is getting ridiculous.

    If OSDN can't afford to hire editors, fact checkers, or anything else, try to recruit volunteers! Do it like the moderation system. Allow random users to see stories that are about to be posted and fact check them. You could have "verified true" and "verified false", then "metaverification" to keep the fact checkers honest.

    I'd be happy to check the facts and the grammar of a few stories a month for free, in exchange for others doing it the rest of the time. Isn't that the whole idea of Open Source? Many eyes, few bugs? One person's effort helping thousands more?