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Big Company on Campus

Daniel Dvorkin writes "MSNBC (oh, the irony) is running a scary article entitled Microsoft's big role on campus, detailing how Microsoft is working its way into academic computer science through a combination of bribery and propaganda. The aricle may be overstating the case, but it does make it sound as though MS products are displacing others at a disturbing rate in computer science departments. Given that academic computing has traditionally been both the source of and the stronghold for innovative software, this is a disturbing long-term trend."

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  1. This makes me angry by Lane.exe · · Score: 5, Funny
    I'm trying to register for classes right now and my stupid university's servers (which run MS) aren't letting anyone log on... and all it took was >30K students trying to register. I'd hate to see what a /.ing would do.

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    1. Re:This makes me angry by quantum+bit · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'd hate to see what a /.ing would do.

      Post the URL.

  2. wow by dragoncortez · · Score: 5, Funny
    In 1998, the company began to quietly fly academics to its headquarters for previews of the technology. Damien Watkins, then a lecturer at Monash University in Australia, recalled that some of his peers wore Linux T-shirts to show their skepticism. In the end, though, they were won over in part by the promise of the technology -- and by a $150,000 donation the company made to the university, he said.

    If I'd known professors were that cheap, I'd have picked up a couple a long time ago.

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  3. I remember when.. by grendel_x86 · · Score: 3, Funny

    MS was selling their C compiler in our bookstore for REALLY cheap. FUnny thing was that all the CS dept was using Suns, so it was worthless.

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    1. Re:I remember when.. by liverbugg · · Score: 3, Funny

      Heh ebay...that's exactly what I did when MS came on my campus two years ago and gave away software. The senior running the program had no idea what anything was, ms probably gave him a job or something if he ran the program. I emailed him requesting a copy of Win2k Advanced Server, then got VS 6.0 pro, 2 copies of WinME, Office 2k Premium, and a couple of Whisler(XP) betas at the meeting. Sold everything on ebay and it paid for almost all of my laptop I bought over that summer that hapily runs Linux now.

  4. Hook 'em while they're young by rc.loco · · Score: 5, Funny

    It works for the U.S. tobacco companies, so why not?

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    1. Re:Hook 'em while they're young by ivanmarsh · · Score: 5, Funny

      It works for the U.S. tobacco companies, so why not?

      At least the tobacco companies products work.

  5. In Other News by the+darn · · Score: 3, Funny

    Naming rights for the first two letters of XXNBC now up for bid...

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  6. My Biggest Fear by mogh1701 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I come home from work and my kid comes running up to be dressed like the MSN butterfly and says "Where do you want to go today." (in a robotic like tone)

    Brainwashing I tell ya!!

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  7. Microsoft Fetish by Hecubas · · Score: 5, Funny

    C'mon slashdot, what is with this Microsoft fetish lately? Get with it and keep up the SCO bashing for goodness sake!

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  8. ObSimp: by mcmonkey · · Score: 3, Funny

    I, for one, welcome our new redmond overlords...

    Oh wait! No, I don't!

  9. MIT using tones of M$ software? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I guess that school isn't as good as I though. Glad I didn't apply.

  10. Simple solution by StefanJ · · Score: 2, Funny

    Put a lifelike effigy of a MS rep at each major entrance to campus.

    Effigies made up to look like they've suffered the Death of a Thousand Cuts, only using sharpened slivers of Linux distribution CD-ROMs.

    Also, encouraging grad students working in the IT offices to wear pirate costumes might help, Arrrr!

  11. Re:Huh? by goodviking · · Score: 4, Funny

    half the classes used Windows, the other half linux, and now, a few years later, I really cant remember which was which

    Less binge drinking should clear than problem up

  12. Good Thing by N8F8 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Its a good thing MS already bought the legislature or they'd have somthing to worry about.

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  13. Free Software is a cult - MS just a corp by Eric+Ass+Raymond · · Score: 2, Funny
    my kid comes running up to be dressed like the MSN butterfly and says "Where do you want to go today." (in a robotic like tone)

    As opposed to wearing a poncho, playing a flute and chanting: "All software must be free - free as in beer and free as in speech! The prophet Richard M. Stallman said so and we'll happily give our lives to the Church of Emacs!"

    1. Re:Free Software is a cult - MS just a corp by mogh1701 · · Score: 2, Funny

      "All software must be free - free as in beer and free as in speech!"

      Man Free Beer and Free Software go together like Free Porn and P2P sharing. Sounds like heaven to me.

      In fact I declare that all distros of M$ software should now be free and come with a beer cozy.

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  14. Re:Heh, not at my university by 514x0r · · Score: 5, Funny

    Perhaps industry is demanding a bit more of graduates than simply knowing how to program in Visual Basic these days???

    yep, they're looking for graduates that can probram VB in India.

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  15. Re:MS on Egyptian campuses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    According to MS Word, "campuses" is the correct plurality of campus.

  16. Re:MS on Egyptian campuses by MadFarmAnimalz · · Score: 4, Funny

    Pluralizing it as if it were Latin would be misleading and pretentious, and pluralizing it with a double i just makes you look like a total idiot.

    Or perhaps it would make me look like a non-native english speaker? (which is the case)

    OH well, don't let me ruin a perfectly good jump to a conclusion. :)

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  17. MIT? by jcr · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wow, I guess daily contact with RMS is enough to drive people to some truly extreme measures...

    -jcr

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  18. Re:Huh? by rk · · Score: 5, Funny

    And look at this way... Every dollar MS gives to schools is a dollar they don't have to give to SCO!

  19. Re:MS has Egyptian curses??? by neonfrog · · Score: 3, Funny

    That would explain why their media player rises from the dead every time I install a service pack...

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  20. Sounds the same to me by siskbc · · Score: 5, Funny
    At least the tobacco companies products work.

    I don't know, I'd say M$ware works at least as well as tobacco. Both give decent results in the short term, but eventually result in a fatal process crash. And hey, at least you can reboot your computer. I suppose if you're Hindu you believe you can reboot yourself, as well.

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    1. Re:Sounds the same to me by Unregistered · · Score: 5, Funny

      Except one product destroys your body slowly over time without fully disclosing the dangers, and the other's a dried plant.

  21. You mean I'm supposed to schmooze? by Daniel+Zappala · · Score: 4, Funny

    You mean to tell me there's something in this for me when I pick textbooks for my CS classes? All along I've been trying to choose the textbooks that I felt covered the material the best. And in many cases I've missed out on any kind of opportunity by forgoing a textbook and taking the time to select relevant research papers. What else am I missing out on?

  22. Re:Good for us all by vsprintf · · Score: 2, Funny

    How many of those books were written by faculty members?

    If memory serves, most of my text books were written by faculty members somewhere. Just a thought.

  23. Re:Huh? by mindriot · · Score: 5, Funny
    1. Many of the people doing open source work started (and continue) because of their exposure to open source, GNU, etc. Which will be limited if the initial exposure is completely proprietary.

    Also, many of the people doing open source work started (and continue) because of their exposure to Windows.

    ;-)

  24. Re:Visa Commercial by shaitand · · Score: 2, Funny

    Give me a break, the windows loving mods will mod you into oblivion most of the time simply for mentioning linux.

  25. Re:Huh? by vsprintf · · Score: 2, Funny

    If your choices are "use J++ for the Java courses" or double tuition for Comp Sci students, I say go with J++.

    Okay, and Java would be more expensive because it's free (as in free beer, which all students will be able to evaluate correctly)?

  26. Re:Um, not exactly. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    When I was recently at Stanford, I walked into _their_ William H. Gates building. Notwithstanding the appalling amount of corporate sellout in Palo Alto, the first thing you see when you enter is a touchscreen terminal with a big X11 "X" on it.