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Is Your Boss An Idiot?

Dracos writes "CNN Money is running an article entitled "Is Your Boss An Idiot?" Advice on how to cope with a PHB is prefaced with humorous, though suspiciously anecdotal, examples of how to identify one."

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  1. I work for myself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    So, Yes my boss is an idiot

    1. Re:I work for myself by arpy · · Score: 5, Funny

      So your boss doesn't realise that you're skiving off reading /.?

  2. Oh my god, my boss _IS_ an idiot! by Shayde · · Score: 5, Funny

    What a fool! Always late for meetings, never gives any supportive commentary, the pay sucks, the hours are long, and _HE_ gets all the glory for the crap I have to do all day long! What a bozo!

    Waiddasec. I work for myself.

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  3. I'm "Self-Employed" by Esion+Modnar · · Score: 4, Funny

    So, the answer is "Yes."

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  4. I agree - get out by Carmody · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The danger with "idiot" bosses is that they often become "blame you" bosses when they are in danger of being discovered. It's like a form of Darwinism - idiots who take responsibility for mistakes tend not to survive, while idiots who blame others for mistakes tend to hang around to be an example for future idiot bosses.

    I would take the articles advice and get out - as soon as possible. Even if things seem tolerable.

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  5. And now, for deep thoughts, with CNN..... by GrnArmadillo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Fun anecdotes to be sure, but the article has nothing more intelligent to say than (pretty closely paraphrased quote from the article) "If your boss sucks, get over it or get out of there." Anyone have mod points to rate the article "over-rated"? *mutters* Slow freakin' news day.....

  6. RateMyBoss.com? by HanzoSan · · Score: 4, Interesting



    How about we make a site which lets people rate their boss, and if the boss gets enough bad ratings hopefully the higher ups will see the data and fire him.

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    1. Re:RateMyBoss.com? by Technician · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Fireing your boss is simple. Find another job. He is no longer your boss. Maybe he someone else will take him on as boss. A company with very high turnover is not a place for a career.

      With that in mind, most people should not have rated their boss as an idiot because as a good employee, you should have replaced the bad boss long ago. I had a bad boss. I ditched him 6 years ago. It's the shortest time I had a boss.

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  7. This should have been a poll. by JFMulder · · Score: 4, Funny

    Not a story. :)

    1. Re:This should have been a poll. by W32.Klez.A · · Score: 4, Funny

      does it have diving boards?

  8. All bosses are idiots... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why? It's the Peter Principle...

    In companies, people get promoted on merit, status and capabilities, going further up in the company until... they reach a position that they're incompetent or ineffective in. Why? Because they will get promoted no further and it's incredibly hard to demote people without causing harm to the way the company structure works.

    In theory you could increase productivity in a company by demoting everybody by one position. That way everybody is operating at the edge of their abilities, not way beyond them.

  9. one explanation by Highlordexecutioner · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, they give all managers lobotomies. How else would they be able to stand going to meetings for 7 hours a day.

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  10. ahem... by InsaneCreator · · Score: 4, Funny

    Is Your Boss An Idiot?

    Is that a rethorical question?

    1. Re:ahem... by sharkey · · Score: 4, Funny
      Is that a rethorical question?

      Don't you just hate those people who answer a question with a question?

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    2. Re:ahem... by ptomblin · · Score: 4, Funny

      Don't you just hate those people who answer a question with a question?

      Why would anybody do that?

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    3. Re:ahem... by bj8rn · · Score: 4, Funny
      Why would anybody do that?

      Because it's impolite?

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  11. What's worse, idiot tech. boss or non-tech. idiot? by GuardianBob420 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Of all the annoying bosses I've had, the 'technical' bosses were the worst... Early in my career, I had a boss who would want to try and 'fugure out' my code. He would stay all night and call me at 4:00 am because my code was 'broken' and I had to fix it be the open of business THAT DAY... would turn out he had changed the code to see what it would do, broke it, deployed it to check if it was broke, and then couldn't remember what he had changed! Source control saved me many many hours of work during that stretch...

  12. caveat by Lust · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Most people, and therefore employees, are also idiots.

  13. Let's get the anecdotes going by hype7 · · Score: 5, Funny

    There was an office manager where I worked who had absolutely no idea. He just happened to be the brother-in-law of one of the Directors of the organisation (an ISP).

    Other than having a propensity to open up every infected email he received (the best one was when he sent "I Love You" to all the employees), he did some other things that were pretty stupid. My favourite, however was when one of our bigger clients needed to talk to him about something. We looked all round the office, and couldn't find him, so we suggested to the client that they called him. The boss answered the phone, and they had a conversation about whatever it was that was required, though there was a really bad echo on the line. The disucssion was, however, suddenly punctuated by quite a loud "plop!", as if something was dropped into a bowl of water. It then dawned on the client why nobody could find him when we went looking.

    He was on the crapper!

    This guy had answered his mobile phone to one of our largest clients, while sitting on the john! The client had called the manager in front of us, and we wondered why he at first went bright red and then broke down in laughter.

    He didn't tell us what had happened until later.

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    1. Re:Let's get the anecdotes going by jujuchef · · Score: 5, Funny

      Small medical IT department of two with a supervisor:

      One day while in a meeting with a vendor over purchasing a new server(20-60k), our Supervisor turns to our CEO during the meeting and asks, "What can we afford?"

      The CEO quickly responds, "Well first you tell me what we need and then we'll figure it out and I'll decide what we can afford."

      Our brave supervisor tacking on but another gem in a long list of brilliant acts, turns to the vendor, "What do we need?"...

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  14. some advice... by Talia+Starhawke · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I don't work in too technical of a field (I'm a receptionist), but I still work with computers for at least 95% of my job. The other 5% is the customers that call me.

    Anyway, compared to a lot of these comments, I feel quite lucky. My boss (her name is Kari), is very nice. She's not too nosy, trusts me to do my job correctly, and takes enough time off for her family that she doesn't mind when I take a "sick day" here or there. Others I've heard, aren't so lucky. I have a Worst Case Scenario Handbook for work (quite humorous), and it lists three different types of bosses in there. The Micromanager, The Workaholic, and The Buddy.

    The Micromanager - I think everyone has had one, a boss that wants to be into absolutely everything you do, and is basically breathing down your neck 24/7. The advice the book gives is to flood this boss with information. Copy them on every e-mail, no matter how miniscule the subject matter.

    The Workaholic - I've never had this type of boss, but this certainly seems like sound advice: put vacation pamphlets on their desk, tell them about your family, show them pictures of your kids, etc. This type of boss has lost touch with the real world, they say. Unless you bring him back to some degree, or show him you're not the same, and that you have a family (or computers) that need your love and attention, this boss will demand the same performance from you.

    The Buddy - I've been accused of being this way in other positions. I like to get to know the people I work with, and I'm constantly giving them too much information about my personal life. I'm a bit nosy too, so I ask a lot about things that they did over the weekend. I'm a people-person, I can't help it! ;) The book recommends that you either avoid this boss at all costs or you "make up" a hobby that you can safely tell them about without divulging any information that is of any consequence.

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  15. My boss is the smartest guy in the world! by teamhasnoi · · Score: 4, Funny

    He hired me.

  16. what about bad employees? by jtauber · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've had some really good bosses and some so-so bosses. But if you ask them I'm sure they'd say they've had some really good staff and some really bad staff.

    From my own experience I would say having a bad employee work for you is worse than working for a bad boss.

    I've always thought people complaining about their bosses generally ends up sounding like teenagers complaining about their parents.

    Many people's attitude changes onces they've had staff of their own.

  17. Indeed... by MoeMoe · · Score: 4, Funny

    You try dealing with a guy who seriously yelled at the entire IT department for keeping livestock on premises... He was refering to the server farm, and no I'm not kidding...

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  18. Re:Asinine article by Dot.Com.CEO · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm a slashdot reader too, so I sent them an email complaining of the lack of a CowboyNeal option.

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  19. My boss is good. by Population · · Score: 4, Interesting

    He understands basic logic (look, every one else's machine is doing what you're trying to do and doing it fine so the problem must be in your machine) even if he doesn't understand everything about computers.

    But his boss is an idiot that buys every damn toy on the market and expect me to make it work just like the sales person said it would.

    And my boss keeps giving me raises because I keep his boss off of his back.

  20. Firing the 'c' programmers... by (H)elix1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Was it SGI head honcho that wanted to fire all of its 'c' programmers, because they only wanted 'a' programmers on staff a few years back?

  21. Frank's an idiot... by jburroug · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ok I'm the IT Manager at an oncology/diagnostic imaging clinic and holy shit is my boss, the general manager (COO if you ask him) an idiot. Some examples include:

    Asking a patient out on a date.

    The patient he asked out didn't want to date him but did set him up with a friend of hers who just left her husband a few weeks prior, who also happened to be a patient at our other clinic across town. After going out with her he decided to hire her as our new receptionist. Ten minutes after the Doctor saw one of his other patients working the phones she was gone and Frank got an ass chewing.

    He reportedly said, in the middle of a meeting with the doctor and a female employ: "Sometimes when I get home after a day like this it's just brain masturbation." There's nothing I can say to put this in context because there was no context, he apparently just blurted it out for no apparent reason.

    He's a verbal train wreck in general. Last week he interupted a group us working by the MRI desk (not together, just happened that a lot us needed something from that area at the same time) and shouted "Hey if none of you have any work to do maybe I should dock your pay, har har har!" He then proceeded to hold us hostage for about 20 minutes while he told stupid stories about being a self made man, tried to sell my assistant some old suits he couldn't wear anymore and then told us all the story of how his father died of a heart attack at 52.

    Fortunatly he didn't hire me and can't fire me. The Doctor/owner of the clinic hired me directly a few months ago and loves me because I'm finishing projects my predecessor spent the better part of a year fucking up.

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  22. I find their wording a bit disturbing... by RevRa · · Score: 5, Funny

    "NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - You can't live with 'em. And you can't shoot 'em. "

    Apparently they missed their own headlines a few days ago:

    "Salvador Tapia returned to the Windy City Core Supply warehouse where he had been fired six months ago and killed six of his former co-workers, police said Wednesday."

    Apparently, if you can't live with 'em, you can shoot 'em.

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  23. YOU ARE SO FIRED! by YOU+ARE+SO+FIRED! · · Score: 4, Funny

    I don't know how, but I'll find a way. Pack up your stuff, "boss", because as soon as I can find a way to acquire you, I will terminate you so quick you'll think you were in a seedy uptown clinic dodging a coathanger.

    Whoops! That's a little tasteless. Sorry. You're still fired, though.

  24. My Boss reads Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny
    He is the world's smartest, most capable boss. He is truly a genius and an inspired business leader


    Oh and my review is coming up soon. I've working incredibly hard, so I'm sure I will get a good pay increase. Isn't that right of most noble lord of the workplace?

  25. The Peter Principle Always Wins by DaveAtFraud · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Peter Principle: People rise to their own level of incompetence.

    Its really simple, if you can do your current job reasonably well and your immediate bosses job becomes vacant, you're a candidate. Run this algorithm over time and everyone eventually gets promoted to a job they are not competent to hold.

    Some firms attempt to circumvent the Peter Principle by bringing in "management" from outside. This is generally worse since the people doing the work see a constant steam of incompetents who know nothing of the business brought in to tell them what to do. With this scenario, not only is the "boss" incompetent but he or she also doesn't understand the business whereas promoting someone from inside may mean you get someone who doesn't know how to manage but at least understands the business.

    Regardless of whether you promote from inside or bring management in from outside, there will always be a percentage of people attracted to these positions because their motivations are power, prestige, etc. Since they generally have few useful skills, these people will generally be more politically adept than the poor slob who is actually technically competent and happens to be a person who still hasn't topped out against the Peter Principle. Been there; had this happen to me. That was when I decided that a management career track wasn't for me.

    Its really sad commentary about the so-called planned economies of the Soviet Union, etc. that this "system" is still more efficient than any planned economy.

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    1. Re:The Peter Principle Always Wins by Dun+Malg · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Since they generally have few useful skills, these people will generally be more politically adept than the poor slob who is actually technically competent and happens to be a person who still hasn't topped out against the Peter Principle.

      Ah, this leads to the Dilbert Principle, which is (perversely) even worse than the Peter Principle. Technically adept people don't get promoted because they're so good at doing the actual work. Subsequently, people who are "less adept", so to speak, are promoted instead because there's no great loss to productivity at the bottom and maybe they'll be better at managing. Under the Dilbert Principle, people are not only promoted beyond their level of competence, but those chosen for promotion are selected because they're the least useful.

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    2. Re:The Peter Principle Always Wins by JordanH · · Score: 4, Interesting
      • Ah, this leads to the Dilbert Principle, which is (perversely) even worse than the Peter Principle. Technically adept people don't get promoted because they're so good at doing the actual work.

      And this is a serious problem. From it, we get engineers who are asked to put on their "manager's hat" for a moment to evaluate a technical decision. The most famous example being the Challenger disaster, but I'm sure it happens all the time.

      Whenever someone says "put on your manager's hat", translate that as "look at this from the perspective of an incompetent".

    3. Re:The Peter Principle Always Wins by Tablizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Its really sad commentary about the so-called planned economies of the Soviet Union, etc. that this "system" is still more efficient than any planned economy.

      This is because there is Darwinistic filtering going on: if a company gets too stupid, it goes tits-up. In a "planned" system, the extreme idiocracy remains. It is not that capitalism is super-efficient, it is that it filters out the bottom end of the stack, unlike the alternative.

  26. Is your boss an idiot? by ngyahloon · · Score: 5, Funny

    All those who work in the White House say: Amen!

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