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KDE Contributor Conference 2003 "Kastle" Report
Last weekend the KDE Contributor Conference 2003 in Nove Hrady ("Kastle") ended. There's a conference report, all slides and papers have been published, and there are lots of photos including the obligatory group photo (use mouse pointer and look at the status bar to see the names!). Also part of kastle were the KOffice Developers' Meeting and the presentation of Qt 4.
Welcome to the KDE Kontributor Konference!
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KKK? That's not good
Toronto-area transit rider? Rate your ride.
8:00 am: Session 1: Why can't we get past using the letter K?
-j
and there are lots of photos including the obligatory group photo
Wow, look at all the chicks.
*crickets*
So I suppose becoming an Open Source developer isn't going to get me lots of hot action, huh?
--saint
I didn't think so.
Is this truly the only Earth I can live on?
you just know he's thinging "whoa, there's a girl here. how'd she get in?!?! *stares*"
Blockquoth the poster...
But only in Internet Explorer, it would seem. Certainly not in Mozilla Firebird. It beggars belief that people who are trying to convince the world of the virtues of alternative and open systems can't even code cross-browser [d]HTML.
There are two women in that group photo. Clearly it is a fake designed to psychologically manipulate us into supporting KDE over Gnome.
Damn it, I think it's working.
I read the KOffice Developers' Meeting page and it says that they'll be switching to OpenOffice.org's file format for all major applications. As someone who occasionaly uses both OpenOffice.org and KOffice this is great news, and will also provide an easy way to translate between current KOffice formats and OpenOffice.org. Maybe we have on our hands a new, truly cross-platform file format.
Thank you.. thats a really good point.
Try to convince your boss that you should ditch the number #1 OS in the world with the #1 office suite in the world for a product called "GNU/Linux" that runs a desktop called "KDE" and an office suite called "KOffice" with tools like "KWord", "KPresenter", etc etc.
It gets silly when they ask what the things stand for. "KDE" stands for "Kool Desktop Environment". "GNU" stands for "GNU is Not Unix". Seriously. I've been made to look like a retard because of these silly names.
Say what you will about MS, but their names are at least bland and corporate friendly.
Put identity in the browser.
I mean, GUI development needs more women. You know its very difficult to find a man that has UI and aestetics capabilities (at least a straight one). If we want more friendly to use GUIs, we need women! Pronto!
Call on God, but row away from the rocks.
And the one wearing the skirt is not a girl, or is it...
Call on God, but row away from the rocks.
I keep upto date with KDE from CVS (using Gentoo's excellent KDE CVS ebuilds) and noted, along with the large number of changes, that in the last week or so the default splash screen has been changed to the group photo. :)
It's nice an' all, but could we have it changed back please?
Just like the 2 guys on the left I was also like "whoa, there's a girl here. how'd she get in?!?! *stares*" (mrgreenfur).
Kudos to the KDE Developers too, some good work going on.
I'm not sure why you're so upset with KDE projects in particular. Free software is full of "cute" names: to make the whole bunch of them sound "professional" would affect a lot more than KDE.
Given this situation, I rather like KDE's project names. It makes it easier to tell that they are, in fact, KDE applications.
If the names are so bothersome, I'm sure you could just fork all the projects so you can rename them!
Look at the tomato! Isn't it sad? He can't dance! Poor tomato!
...KOffice is switching to OASIS, the OOo file format.
Got time? Spend some of it coding or testing
Very corporate friendly. And then of course there's TFPC. (-:
Got time? Spend some of it coding or testing
Um, no it doesn't.
OTOH, putting the name of a seriously debilitating illness in front of all program names is OK? I guess it's fitting that billg talked about the Digital Nervous System a few year's back... MS is a disease.Money for nothing, pix for free
Quickly sed'ed for correctness : http://mksp.zerodeux.net/contributors.html.
True its often over done, but at its root it makes a LOT of sense.
If its prefixed with K, you pretty much can guess its integrated with KDE..
Don't forget, G goes with Gnome.. I don't see people bitching about that, and its just as effective/silly/etc.
---- Booth was a patriot ----
Hello group, my name is Klark... As is the kase with many of you, I love komputers and was about to embark on a kareer in the field of information and kommunikation teknology... but my troubles started when I got into KDE development... it wasn't really konspikuous at first when I started to spell everything with a k, sometimes even with a kapital K, but soon my kolleagues began to wonder whether I kouldn't spell... they asked me, "Are you on krack? Kut the krap!"... some even went as far as kalling me kompletely krazy! What kould I do? I must admit, I'm a kolerik person, kwick-tempered as you might say... sometimes I got inkredibly angry, and I kussed and kursed at my ko-workers... People should judge me by the kontent of my karakter instead of just kriticizing my kurious spelling! However, when I was sacked for being unkooperative, I developed an inferiority komplex and finally realized I had to kome to terms with my problem... so here I am, this is my koming-out... I know my kase is a komplex one, but I do hope it is kurable...
A great way to capitalize all the discussions at the Kastle: the devs are starting the 3.2 release cycle now . The integration of PIM stuff in 3.2 will make for a complete, extremely consistent desktop environment (except for KOffice that will need onesome extra time to mature, incorporate the OpenOffice filters, etc.)
While there were indeed 3 girls there, one of them has had a bit too much to drink as you can see
here.
Blah Blah. Again with the stupid arguement that names matter...
/. at least you'll now why. :-/
From now on I'm just putting all of you down as enemies so that you will be forever modded to -6 and I won't have to read this pointless arguement about names anymore.
When you see a shiny colored button in the comments while your reading
If you wanna get rich, you know that payback is a bitch
Yeah! About time they threw that PNAC Nazi out!
Immediately, I was thinking of "Klo" (toilet) and "Kacke" (look it up yourself) when I saw this....ah the possiblities that good knowledge of the German language can open!
But soon we might have "Krap" as well....
The K in KDE does not stand for anything. It is the character that comes before L in the Latin alphabet, which stands for Linux. It was chosen because KDE runs on many types of UNIX (and perfectly well on FreeBSD).
It is true, or at least reasonably true, to say that the K doesn't stand for anything now. Claiming that it was chosen for any reason other than because KDE was originally called the Kool Desktop Environment is not true.
Seriously, they started with a bad name. They very sensibly ditched it. No need to go on about it but no reason to pretend it never happened either.
I suspect your post was moderated as a troll because the complaint you made already gets made several times in every vaguely KDE-related thread. It's getting old.
The continued, annoying repetition makes the "I'm sick of all the K's!" posts feel like trolls even when they aren't meant that way.
Well, you could always use FreeBSD instead.
"What does BSD stand for?"
"Berkeley Software Distribution. It's the UNIX developed at UC Berkeley."
A Government Is a Body of People, Usually Notably Ungoverned
I agree the more esoteric K-apps is silly.. if they would stick to common words ( + the K ) then things would be better..
Kmail, Koffice, etc are good examples.
Kopete, Konqueror are bad examples..
Then you have things like Aethera.. Geezh.. I will hate to have to explain to clients about that one.. Aside from the question, 'is it KDE compliant?', its just really really poorly named.. ( unless its some german thing that we here in the USA use differently )
---- Booth was a patriot ----
How is KDE any different from CDE, which corporations ran for a long time?
How is KWord any different from MS Word?
The K is just branding. If you notice, most Windows apps have an MS (or a full Microsoft) in front of them:
It's not IE, but MSIE
It's not Word, but MS Word,
etc.
A deep unwavering belief is a sure sign you're missing something...
popular with the chicks then?
I count 1?
It's tiring when nobody listens to the users. And the repetitive Ks are more "old" than posts like this, I feel.
"Sufferin' succotash."
You have to also realize the history behind the acronym "KDE"
Yes, Kool Desktop Environment was the origional name. But it was a play off of CDE, the Common Desktop Environment. You see, back when KDE started, CDE was all there was, and GNOME did not exist. People were sick of fvwm95 which was the default desktop in redhat, and other linux distros, and when they saw KDE (similar in name to CDE, which everyone knew) they could relate...
Kool didn't just come out of thin air. They couldn't name it the Cool Desktop Environment, otherwise it would have been CDE. Obviously, its a pretty lame name, and so it was promptly changed to the "K Desktop Environment" even before KDE 1.0 was released. Origionally, KDE was (at least somewhat) ment to be a CDE like desktop. Also, another reason why Sun chose GNOME insted of KDE for their new desktop. KDE was their CDE competition, and when GNOME came out, was KDE's competition and CDE had already (mostly) died. At the time Sun made the decision, It made sence.
Two infinite things: your stupidity and mine. But I'm not sure about the latter. If my sig offends you, I'm sorry.
http://www.hakubi.us/kdeannounce.html
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"New Project: Kool Desktop Environment (KDE)"
And if you don't believe my mirror:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl26301137
Nah, it's not starting with obvious things like kwin. The Havoc-ification of KDE started with XDG Desktop Files, then it'll be DBUS, then it'll be GConf.
Let me get this straight: KDE protested against software-patents. Now, software-patents are an issue that relates directly to KDE (and all open-source software for that matter). How did they protest? They closed their website for one day. Then an american KDE-developer decided that since KDE protests against software-patents by closing their website, it's perfectly OK to embed pro-US Army proganda right in to KDE itself. Obviously other KDE-developers disagreed.
Protesting against software-patents (a thing that can have direct implications on the project) is completely different from putting propaganda about US Army in to the desktop itself.
The KDE-developer in question is a moron that has previously been at odds with the other developers (with friends like him, who needs enemies?), and the website you linked to is downright stupid.
Lesbian Nazi Hookers Abducted by UFOs and Forced Into Weight Loss Programs - -all next week on Town Talk.
Some people claim that KDE stands for Kalle Dalheimer Experience.
Website links are only a very small part of PageRank. If you still believe link whoring matters, you're sadly mistaken. Besides, if I were trying to inflate my page rank in such a way, it wouldn't make sense to link a *different* URL, would it?
Furthermore, "again" looks a bit silly given the fact my sites have had decent Google (and MSN Search) ratings for quite a while. We've been top ten for "governor schwarzenegger" for months without a single incoming link to said pages. Why? Because we've had regular updates on the recall elections with a diverse content in a technically organized manner.
Yes, I am aware that the way my I build my websites seems to be the way Googlebot likes them. And that's also what happened: I tuned my content engine to be more strict in what it sent, and Google picked up my efforts to be a responsible webmaster. I didn't trick Googlebot, it just happened to agree with the way I present my content.
I cannot speak for Neil, but I did not post that link, nor would I do so anonymously. You don't seem to know me at all. (especially not since I actually disagreed with Neil's opinion that KDE is full of anti-Americanism on SA)
For the last time (not!): it's the Klingon Desktop Environment. Only ~130 strings translated though, if only I'd get some help!
... the KDE Kontributor Konference abbreviation wouldn't go very well. Just ask Krusty how well his Krusty Komedy Klassics went over at the Apollo...