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Mystery Tiles From Around the World

puppetman writes "The Kansas City Star has an interesting story about Toynbee Tiles. They show up embedded in streets, and can be found in the US (Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, New York, Baltimore, Aberdeen, Edgewood, Washington, etc), Chile, Argentina and Brazil. They are made of "epoxy or super hard plastic that's actually inlaid in the asphalt itself." The tiles invariably state, "Toynbee Ideas in Kubrick's 2001 Resurrect Dead On Planet Jupiter". Sometimes there are secondary tiles that request people make more while others are of a more paranoid slant. Toynbee was a religious historian who believed that "well-being of a civilization depends on its ability to respond successfully to challenges, human and environmental". There is even a Ray Bradbury book, The Toynbee Convector. Toynbee.net has a link to a Usenet posting where someone ask's Kubrick's daughter if the man himself knew of the tiles. To date, the origin of the tiles are a mystery. Any /.'ers able to provide the location of additional tiles, or perhaps clues for solving the mystery?"

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  1. Would everyone who wants to claim responsibility.. by Xugumad · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...for a nice, orderly queue under this posting, so we can avoid cluttering the main topic.

  2. Interesting. by Randolpho · · Score: 5, Interesting

    So, where are all the tiles? Who knows, but it sounds like a fun thing to geocache for. :)

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    1. Re:Interesting. by Ligur · · Score: 5, Interesting

      here you go:
      Geocache

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    2. Re:Interesting. by Conch · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Perhaps something like this?

    3. Re:Interesting. by msheppard · · Score: 4, Informative

      The http://www.toynbee.net/ website lists addresses of all known tiles. If you can't convert an address to a co-ord you probably aren't geocaching. I'm going to find one in Boston and setup a cache.

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    4. Re:Interesting. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      funny.

      World: There are weird tiles!
      Slashdot: We need coordinates for our GPS!

      Why can't we light candles or leave flowers or something normal people would do?

  3. My guess? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    In a few weeks they'll all light up and you'll realize they form concentric circles around a just-constructed used car joint.

  4. Kubrick promised us the Monolith... by corebreech · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...and all we get are these lousy tiles.

    Seriously, thinking about 2001 depresses me. When I was a kid I had every expectation we'd be flying around in Pan Am Space Shuttles and learning how to use zero-g toilets.

    Instead we live in a world where Pan Am goes bankrupt, and NYC still hasn't figured out how to install restrooms in the city.

    These tiles are nothing more than a cruel reminder of just how lame the 21st century is turning out to be.

    1. Re:Kubrick promised us the Monolith... by perly-king-69 · · Score: 5, Funny

      These tiles are nothing more than a cruel reminder of just how lame the 21st century is turning out to be.

      Don't worry - you'll miss most of it.

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    2. Re:Kubrick promised us the Monolith... by TopShelf · · Score: 5, Funny

      These tiles are nothing more than a cruel reminder of just how lame the 21st century is turning out to be.

      I dunno, that yellow line that shows the first down marker on football games is pretty cool, and phrases like "don't touch that dial" have become a quaint anachronism. Sure, we're still driving gas-guzzling behemoths and cell phone coverage is spotty at best, but progress is being made.

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    3. Re:Kubrick promised us the Monolith... by Valdrax · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No offense, but the fact that someone would suggest that the little yellow line on televised football games and touch-tone phones make up for the lack of commercial space flight is a good sign of exactly how lame the 21st century is turning out to be.

      I can't believe that we're all still living, to paraphrase Douglas Adams, on "an utterly insignificant little blue-green planet whose ape-descended life forms are so amazingly primitive that they still think [touch-tone phones] are a pretty neat idea."

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  5. I've seen some of those by JCCyC · · Score: 5, Interesting

    But only in the early 80's. Since the quality and durability of pavement here in Brazil is approximately the same as chicken crap, streets get paved and repaved every decade or so. They're long gone.

  6. Google cache of text by Phil+John · · Score: 5, Informative

    Slashdotted, some images in a google cache further down, here's the text though.

    Google Cache

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  7. a big AAAAAHHHHHH by johnpaul191 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    i have seen those here, in Philadelphia, for a long time (i guess since the 80's?) and kind of like the author i never understood them, but once the light turned green, i got on my way and totally forgot about them.

    i honestly could not tell you where they are, but after seeing the picture it came back. i don't remember what the local ones say but the style of text in the same and the size of the tiles and whatnot.

    for people in Philly, i am 99% sure there is one in a crosswalk on South street maybe around 4th and south? i guess when the /. effect wears off you can look up your town's documented tiles.

    1. Re:a big AAAAAHHHHHH by aminorex · · Score: 4, Funny

      Wow. You just slashedotted someone's house.

      That's cold, man. Cold.

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  8. This suggests it's the old guy by siskbc · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If no more of these are appearing, maybe it is the old (now dead) guy in the article. He published an article about resurrecting dead on Jupiter, and he lived in philly where these first appeared.

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  9. Toynbee Tiles violate DMCA by LegendOfLink · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes, it's true, any persons caught trying to decipher the mystery of the Toynbee Tiles will be prosecuted under the DMCA. Listen, just because you can go out into public and read these mysterious tiles does not mean that you have the mysterious right to try and mysteriously figure out where they mysteriously came from. That is the exclusive mysterious right of the mysterious man/woman in [insert color here] who placed these in the first not-so-mysterious place to begin with.

  10. Here's one! by zippity8 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Well, theoretically here's one. When I can duck out and drive across the country to verify it, I'll let you know ;)

    For now, geocache away, Toynbee followers!
    http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_d etails.aspx? ID=36606

    For a message board on this topic, go here (http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Zone/3790/geobook .html)

  11. I have seen many of these! Spooky! by GillBates0 · · Score: 5, Funny
    Any /.'ers able to provide the location of additional tiles, or perhaps clues for solving the mystery?"

    I've seen a large number of these mysterious tiles. They too have strange writing on them, which sometimes makes lewd suggestions or tells offensive jokes. I have always wondered how that writing was created on all those tiles. I've usually noticed these mystery tiles in restrooms stalls at schools, offices, and even airports in many major cities around the world! It's good to know people are starting to investigate the matter.

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  12. Quoting the article by varjag · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "It's probably a man, because the tiles are obviously installed at night since nobody seems to have witnessed them being put in. It's unlikely a woman would risk being alone at night in a downtown environment."

    Yeah, as if a person insane enough to put prophecy tiles into asphalt would drop the idea due to risk of being alone in a downtown environment.

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  13. Does anybody know of similar things? by Knuckles · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I had a similar experience in Vienna/Austria. One day by accident I saw the words on an ad poster translated to latin (or some warped form of it), in pencil, all caps, about 0.7 mm high. I thought nothing of it. But having seen this one item, I suddenly saw them everywhere. I realized that in my neighborhood nearly all the names of the residents were translated (pencil, caps, ...) on the front doors. I saw timetables on bus stops translated. I started to open my eyes to it in other districts of the city. Bingo, there they were - names, ads, traffic signs, basically everything on the streets you could translate and write on had a good chance to carry them, and I kept seeing them for 12 years all over the city, until I moved away (no, not for this reason :)
    There were times when I thought of charting them and trying to find out who the guy is (yes, I had nothing much to do), but I reminded myself of what can happen when one goes overboard with those things and thought better of it ;o)
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  14. "This could be a place of historical importance" by aziraphale · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Reminds me of a paving slab in the corner of the Domplatz (cathedral square) in Koeln (Cologne - damn Slashdot's hatred of HTML entities), Germany. When I was there in the early nineties, there was the big Friedenmauer (peace-wall) - generally a post unification, end-of-history, anti-Gulf-War kind of thing - and the square was a really busy centre of demonstrators, artists and so on. Over in one corner, one of the slabs had, engraved into it, "This could be a place of historical importance". At the time, when everybody was kind of filled with a sense of capital-H history going on all around them, what with the end of the cold war, and atlases going out of date left right and centre, this seemed like a fairly profound statement - and probably encouraged the Friedenmauer builders to think that maybe they could make a difference.

    Seeing this story finally inspired me to Google this phrase, and it turns out to have been the work of one Braco Dimitrijevic, and apparently other similar slabs can be found around St Martin's College in London.

    Obviously no Kubrick reference, so not so geeky, but still a pretty cool bit of public-space art.

  15. a link between by Darth_brooks · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In some cities, the standard "Toynbee tile" is accompanied by smaller adjacent tiles that express sentiments such as:

    Submit. Obey.


    Could this be an attempt to link into the Obey phenomenon? Sure, the tiles started in the 80's, but perhaps a new breed of social engineers are trying to plug us into the idea of examining our surroundings?

    Or maybe some folks think that graffetti doesn't have to be a bad spray job that says "dave love's jessica" or "metallica rules!"

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  16. Downtown St. Louis by zsazsa · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There's a Toynbee tile in the intersection of (IIRC) Broadway and Olive streets in downtown St. Louis. I had always seen it and thought it to be a marker left over from some art festival, etc. I never had the time to stop and read it due to the rather short nature of green lights. I had no idea there were more of them until I saw a weblog entry about this site. I clicked and instantly recognized it. I have no idea how old the tile is but it's in excellent condition.

  17. I walk by one everyday! by iCharles · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's in front of my office here in Cincinnati. In fact, the local alternative weekly ran an artical a few years ago.

    Creepy.

  18. In Chicago by pridkett · · Score: 4, Informative

    There used to be one on Michigan avenue (I think around Adams) on the northwest corner in Chicago. However, when they redid the street, they just sorta covered up some of it. I believe you can still see about 1/2 of it. I never bothered reading it, I thought it was one of those weird art things that the city tends to do from time to time.

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  19. thang by sixdotoh · · Score: 5, Informative
    after a quick google search on toynbee tiles conspiracy (with only 2 pages of resulting material) i found this site which has some assortment of comments and information (way back from march 26, 2002).

    funny thing: most of the sites that are linked to from this page seem to have ... dissapeared.

    http://www.metafilter.com/comments.mefi/15831

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  20. Re:I prefer penrose by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    but aren't they the most filling of all tiles?

  21. TechTV spot w/ the "foremost expert" on it by Dave21212 · · Score: 4, Informative


    TechTV did a thing on it about a month ago...

    Toynbee Mystery
    Mysterious plaques with a prophetic message have been appearing all along the Eastern seaboard. Tonight, Bill O'Neill, the foremost expert in this phenomenon, joins us via netcam from Atlanta to talk about who or what is leaving these plaques and shed some light on their meaning. The plaques read:

    "Toynbee Ideas
    In Kubrick's 2001
    Ressurect Dead
    On Planet Jupiter"

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  22. Other article by b1t+r0t · · Score: 4, Informative
    Thanks to Google, I found another article from the KC Star, not coincidentally with a sequential article number. It may have been intended as a sidebar, but I can't find a link from the original article.

    It has a picture of a much larger tile with some sort of manifesto written in it, next to the standard Toynbee tile. (This picture is also visible from the picture gallery for the original article.)

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  23. an image here... by Noctilux · · Score: 5, Informative

    Again, I rarely have anything to contribute (hey, I'm an artist) to /., but I've seen these things before. This particular one is at the intersection of 5th Avenue and 40th Street in Manhattan.

    Toynbee Tile here

  24. space invaders by mydigitalself · · Score: 4, Informative

    there are sort of similar tilings, predominantly in europe, although i believe the guy (invader) who is responsible for them is currently in NY... although these aren't "profound" statements, they are really well done mosaic tiles of little space invaders!

    you can check it out here. for fellow londoners who are interested...i, personally, have seen two in london. one on brick lane outside vibe bar and one in the notting hill area on some bridge that the carnival goes over - dunno which one, i live in the seeouthhhhh.

  25. googling reveals more interesting leads... by blue_adept · · Score: 5, Informative

    A little googling reveals that couple a years ago one journalist tracked possible responsibility for the tiles down to one "verna sevrino", who he was ultimately unable to contact, even though he had an address in philadelphia.

    google turns up a funeral home in philadelphia called "verna sevrino funeral home", hmmm what might a funeral home have to do with resurrecting people on mars?

    more googling turns up philadelphia councilwoman Anna C. Verna, who is married to " husband, Severino Verna, a funeral director, were born and raised in South Philadelphia.".

    And finally, everything you ever wanted to know about Anna C Verna is here I, for one, welcome our new neptune resurrectionist overlord.

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  26. He's already here! by MarcQuadra · · Score: 5, Funny

    And he requested another 87 billion on TV last night!

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  27. Re:Arthur C. Clarke!!!! by BattleTroll · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Actually, the book was written by Clarke after talking about the movie with Kubrick. Clarke figured the only way to truly write a great screenplay was to write the novel first. The forword of Clarke's 2001 tells us so.

  28. How Tiles are Made by DrLudicrous · · Score: 4, Informative
    Here is something from www.toynbee.net, via the Google cache, that details how the tiles are made. Someone name Justin barely missed seeing the Mad Tiler himself.

    Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 17:36:37 -0400

    Subject: Toynbee Mystrey Solved!...(almost.)

    Hello, my name is Justin K*H* and I am sending you this to let you know of my research into the "Toynbee Idea" phenomenon. I have been obsessively photographing & documenting these tiles since around 1992-'93, when I first started noticing them. I have a very extensive collection of photographs, but this is not my reason for contacting you. My reason in sending this E mail is to let you know that I have figured out EXACTLY how these tiles are "made & glued". You see, sometime this past winter I left my house on a mission to my lacal convinience store for a late Sunday night snack (about 4:00 A.M.,so perhaps "early morning snack would be more appropriate wording.) On my way back to the house I noticed a black mound in the street which had made it's appearance there sometime in the 10 minute period that I was in the store. Upon closer inspection I discovered it to be a mound of tar paper, intermingled with what appeared to be wood glue. Being the inquisitive soul that I am, I lifted the top layer to see what may lay underneath----a "TOYNBEE IDEA" TILE!!!!!( This was discovered at 12th. & Race ST. in Philadelphia, if you want to add it to your sightings list.) Needless to say, I examined the tile for quite a while, my heart racing all the while, knowing that I had missed catching the "mad tiler" by only a matter of minutes. Here are my findings - The tiles are indeed that - tiles. If you heat a standard floor tile it will rubberize and become as easy to cut as butter. But when it hardens it will not be able to withstand the pressure afforded it by car tires as it will be too brittle (I have tried making my own tiles, as you can infer.) However this tile was some kind with a higher rubber content than a standard floor tile, and therefore able to absorb greater weight and shock. It's inlayed letters were of a slightly less malleable substance, but were held in place neatly, even if they were to crack, by the white tile which surrounded them. All of this intricate stencil-esque tile work appeared to have been done with an X-acto knife or razor blade, judging by the angle of the cuts and my own failed attempts with cutting letters into standard floor tiles. The tile was sandwiched between thick layers of intricately folded and glued together tar paper. The effects of the weather(the paper decays, but the tar remains behind as an anchor to affix the tile to the street) and passing cars(they serve as the force which squashes the tile into - literally INTO - the street. Over the course of the next few days I took a series of detailed photos which display the entire process visually. I hope my explanation of all of this is understandable, and I apologize for typos ( I am in a rush. ) Anyways, I hope this gives you some sense of satisfaction as to at least HOW these "plaques" are made.

    P.S. I checked out that Philly adress from the Rio tile - no luck, although I did find a SLEW of Toynbee tiles in the surrounding South Philly neighborhood. (Rather unusual for the tiles to be seen in such a residential neighborhood!) 9th. & Shunk St. is the only specific one I can think of off the top of my head. There are three tiles there which have to be seen to be believed. O.K......Put up my sightings & mention my findings! Thank You, Justin K*H*