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Announcing GNOME 2.4.0 for FreeBSD
Dan writes "FreeBSD's Joe Marcus Clarke says that GNOME 2.4.0 is now available for FreeBSD. Unfortunately, due to timing issues with FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE, it will not make it into the official ports tree until after 4.9 is released (looks like early October right now). In the meantime, you can get to it from his CVS tree. For those without CVS access, he has periodic tarballs made, and are downloadable from the same URL. You should also download the marcusmerge script to aid in merging his ports tree with the official tree. If you already have a copy of the script, download it again because things have changed." Update: 09/18 15:25 GMT by M : FreeBSD's Joe Marcus Clarke says due to popular demand, but more importantly to the fact that 4.9-RELEASE has been pushed back at least two weeks, GNOME 2.40 has been merged into the ports tree.
Yeah, the ones still stuck on FreeBsd.
/proc (idiot)
Still there's neat things about BSD kernel.
1: Security levels
2: Jail
3: PF - OS detection leading to modification of data stream (MS system lead to Linux ISO site)
4: Stable, high performance FS
5: Runs most linux junk (look at sourceforge, most are abandonware). Just doesnt run stuff that depends on proc unless you enable
6: Lot more quotas over users than you have in Linux
Those few features keep certain users on BSD. I figure Linux might get all those features. Still, if you want a really good system, get AIX. Linux and BSD is a good standby for cutting cost as long as you can deal with the limited feature set.
BSD trolls are rendered obsolete.
;)]
Take this! *KAPOW*
And that! *BOFF*
Holy schnikes, Batman! The Penguin is getting away!
Oh, no he's not, Robin! *BLAM*
[FreeBSD runs quite nicely on my laptop, thanks.
-- I'd say your post was about 3 monkeys, 18 minutes.
FreeBSD won't die if people keep porting software to it. So, cut it out people
If Mr. Edison had thought smarter he wouldn't sweat as much. --Nikola Tesla
and os detection is not even in the list of its top features.
PF is [Open|Net|Free]BSD. FreeBSD PF news.
FreeBSD homepage.
NetBSD PF news.
NetBSD PF homepage.
-- I'd say your post was about 3 monkeys, 18 minutes.
Considering that Linux is a form of body soap and FreeBSD is an operating system, I do not see how a body soap replaces an operating system.
I remember once people on deadly.org praising the fact that GNOME 2.0 (or 2.2? I can't rememeber now) was easily ported to OpenBSD.
It's great that GNOME is easily and quickly portable beyond Linux and Solaris (where people is pouring money on it) - GNOME hackers are on the way to make a truly industry-standard desktop environment. Go GNOME!
Cesar Cardoso can be found at cesar at zyakannazio dot eti dot br (or at least I believe so)
When GNOME was Miguel Icaza's baby the code was written in a non-standard and non portable way.
Amazingly Miguel Icaza is considered a 'great coder', yet couldn't be bothered to write portable code.
Once Miguel Icaza left the project, the GNOME code started to become portable and the project adopted a motto of 'it don't ship unless it runs on Solaris/FreeBSD and other UNIXes beyond GNU/Linux.'
The real programmers took over and got the code portable.
For christ's sake!
It's a DAEMON, not a GNOME!!!
I really don't get the reasons behind putting version numbers on a mascot, but hey... whatever floats your boat.
Not Free(as in beer). Free(as in "I'm free to beat you over the head for being a dumbass")
Er. I think you're being trolled. I hadn't intended to come across as correcting whether pf is part of OpenBSD or not.
pf is a project of OpenBSD: True.
pf is now available to the other BSDs: True.
This is good for *BSD: True.
Cheers!
-- I'd say your post was about 3 monkeys, 18 minutes.
Does freebsd 5 use the same ports tree as the 4.x series?
Does it support as many ports as 4.x?
Will GNOME 2.4 be available in the next release of freebsd 5.x?
I like the way you sneeringly say "Linux junk". Yeah, the popularity of Linux has lead to loads of half-assed pointless projects popping up, but never forget the big stuff.
GCC. XFree86. GNOME. KDE. Mozilla. OpenOffice.org.
All very important to FreeBSD, and all seeing rapid development mostly because of Linux. There's no arguing that fact. I like and use FreeBSD, but never deny the important of Linux to the surrounding apps.
Hi. Allow me to introduce myself. I'm FreeBSD. A lot of you are saying I'm dead. I assure you that is not the case.
:-)
Dying? Definition 6. from http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=dying reads:
6. To become indifferent: had died to all worldly concerns.
Apply this definition to your constant bickering over whether or not I'm dead and I'll agree.
Over the last twenty something years I've been through a lot. But through it all I've been reliable and dependable.
Over the next few years I'm going to show you what the terms "scalability," "efficiency," and "security" really mean.
So shut your pie holes and keep coding. Maybe you'll have a hope in hell of keeping up with me.
Yours truly,
FreeBSD
1. You can not play games on it.
There are games for BSD. But if you're serious about games, UNIX is not exactly the best platform choice for games, unless you are using Mac OS X.
2. It cannot be used by my grandma.
Why not? If your grandma can not use a mouse, a keyboard, or see, then that would be true.
3. It lacks a GUI of any note.
KDE and Gnome are available.
4. There is no support available for it.
There is support for it, countless websites, mailing lists, documentation, and there are commercial companies that support it. Also, at the end of the day, it's unix. A large chunk of adminstering Linux/*BSD are the same, so anyone that knows unix could offer help.
5. It is an assortment of fragmented OSes.
And Linux isn't fragmented? How many Linux distros are there?? LOTS! Maybe the kernel is the same, but a kernel by itself is not an operating system.
6. It cannot be run on the x86 platform.
Free/Net/OpenBSD all run on x86 as their primary platform.
7. You have to compile everything and know C.
If you write software, of course you have to compile it...that is the same with any operating system. Pre-compiled packages are available for the *BSDs, as well as ports, which does the work of compiling for you. You DO not need to know C to "use" *any* operating system.
8. Support for the latest hardware is always poor.
More than enough hardware works, any half decent well known componets will work fine. There will always be a slight delay with free unix. Hardware companies don't exactly release drivers for free unix or provide documentation all the time, so it may take longer to get a driver together.
9. It is incompatiable with GNU/Linux.
Not sure what you mean here, it could mean a few things.
10.It is dying.
Visit openbsd.org, netbsd.org, freebsd.org and then apple.com. "Oops"
You are an oxygen theif.
What?
It's interesting that BSD trolls always sound like they are trying to convince other people that BSD is dying, more than they believe it themselves.
Hrm.
The mind of a troll is a disturbring thing.
Once laws and bills come into place to deal with spammers. Trollers will be next.
Still "stuck" on FreeBSD?
Damn, I'm stuck on a secure, stable, and fast operating system. Help me!
Again, someone who takes the *BSD is dying trolls far too seriously. Heh I don't really believe it myself but it doesn't stop me posting ye trolls.
That is the thing about us trolls - we aren't logical, predictable and are always 100% serious about our subject material.
I can read the local paper now:
Man admitted in court today that he is behind the offensive "*BSD is dying" posts that have plagued a website Slashdot.org for years. The judge said that this type of trolling was a public outrage and caused emotional distress for many users.
Go look it up, fucktard.
No no, the main argument for FreeBSD is its ease of system administration. Just cvsup once in a while, do a make world and mergemaster to merge new /etc & other config files and you're done. This way you can stay current for many years without ever reinstalling, even move your installation from machine to machine.
For me it is lazyness that keeps me stick with FreeBSD.
Aside from the fact that there's something borked with the PIII box, you're running BSD on hardware that is too new.
You should be running BSD on the PPro, preferably with a 512MB SCSI hard drive and 64MB of RAM. Of course, if you want SERIOUS performance you'll run BSD on the 486. Then you'll see some action.
gcc - existed long before "Linux"
XFree86 - "Linux" may or may not be the driving force. Seems to be OS agnostic.
GNOME - Started as a response to KDE and was a 'linux only' project. Now 'we don't ship till it runs on FreeBSD (and Solaris)'.
KDE - Lets look like windows!
Mozilla/OpenOffice.org - more units ship for windows boxes than "Linux"
Of your list KDE is the only "Linux" centric project, and it exists because the developers wanted "Linux" to look like windows. (KDE doesn't even mention an existance outside of the Linux kernel, last time I check the web page) The rest ship more on other platforms, existed before "Linux", or if were "Linux centric" have seen the light of interoperatibility.
No proof, no examples, just a blatant ad-hominem against someone he hates
Where is the beef?
This seems very much like a comment I saw at MozillaZine when Netscape got killed.
only FreeBSD is 20 years old but well nice writeup anyhow :)
I meant "smaller then sign" 20 years old (stupid slashcode), its actually 10-and-a-bit years old.
http://www.goatse.info/story/2003/9/13/234324/410
Thanks.
--Penisbird
Why drink beer? Because I can.
I don't know what drugs you are taking that make you so up tight. Anyway, I doubt that my ISP would be interested in a few off topics posts in Slashdot. There used to be an ISP I used where they got abused in a newgroup by their own members. The boss of the ISP concerned used to reply to such posts, no mentioned of banning people. If you made it personal (without being an obvious joke) then maybe that would be a different story.
I'm hardly disrupting this forum - there is a moderation and threshold system to stop that. Here is a hint: I laways post as an AC.
Of course free speech really only applies to public forums and private companies can certainly control things.
Er, by definition, trolling is always off-topic.
Keep smoking that weed bud! (P.S. That is in jest)
Must...control...urge...to...post...about...geeks. ..and...BO
Here is an idea. Why not post your trolls under your own name. Then, those of us who want to read the BSD forums in peace can add you to our enemies list, and those of us who want to read your rantings can. That way, everyone wins.
dudes, seriously FreeBSD is dead, I have been sitting here for 20 mins while it copies a 16meg file from one folder to another and it still isn't finished.
:P
Oh wait..... that's not BSD that's nautilus using up all my memory....
I'm going to go back to hiding from billy goat gruff under my bridge now....
that Gnome is dying?
Slow down, cowboy! It has been 4 hours since you last posted. You must wait another few hours.
your cousin's name is furnace, he's a fucking dwarf
go ahead now .. give it a big kiss.
That sucka be dead.