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Can You Raed Tihs?

An aoynmnuos raeedr sumbtis: "An interesting tidbit from Bisso's blog site: Scrambled words are legible as long as first and last letters are in place. Word of mouth has spread to other blogs, and articles as well. From the languagehat site: 'Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at an Elingsh uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht frist and lsat ltteer is at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae we do not raed ervey lteter by it slef but the wrod as a wlohe. ceehiro.' Jamie Zawinski has also written a perl script to convert normal text into text where letters excluding the first and last are scrambled."

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  1. At Lsat! by Urantian · · Score: 5, Funny

    Bad splelnig no logner nedes to hlod aynnoe bcak!

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    1. Re:At Lsat! by Hamstaus · · Score: 5, Funny

      Bad splelnig no logner nedes to hlod aynnoe bcak!

      As if that's stopped anyone on Slashdot before.

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    2. Re:At Lsat! by Bob+Wehadababyitsabo · · Score: 5, Funny

      As if tath's stpoped aonnye on Sasldoht boeefr.

      You cna't eevn get the fekucd up snleiplg rghit!!!

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  2. Here you go by JM+Apocalypse · · Score: 5, Informative

    No need to open the terminal ... Jeff comes to the rescue!

    http://jeff.zoplionah.com/scramble.php

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    Orppf urp mf y.ppcxn. yflcbi otcnnov C am yflcbi yr n.apb Ekrpatv (Dvorak -> Qwerty)
  3. Hmmm by Verteiron · · Score: 5, Interesting

    So d__s t__s m__n t__t we d_n't n__d t_e m____e l____s at all?

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    1. Re:Hmmm by Verteiron · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Okay, I know it's bad form to reply to one's own post, but I noticed something. When writting "letters", l____rs seems more recognizable than l_____s. Apparently plurals are handled by the brain as the word followed by the plural suffix. Interesting...

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    2. Re:Hmmm by insanecarbonbasedlif · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I t___k y__r p__t is p___f t__t we d________y do n__d t_e m____e l_____s.





      Read: I think your post is proof that we definately do need the middle letters.

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    3. Re:Hmmm by Verteiron · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Bt we nd te ss fr te wd cs.

      But we need the spaces, at least, for the word cues.

      So how many "bits" of information can we strip from a sentence, on average, before we can no longer intuitively decipher it? The spaces give us information, but not as much as the letters themselves. Yet clearly the ordering of the letters contains much less information than the contents of a word's endpoints. This is odd stuff.

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  4. Microsoft calls that by Penguinshit · · Score: 5, Funny

    "encryption".

  5. So in other words... by Valar · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's a perl script to format normal text into text that looks like a perl script? I think my head is spinning.

  6. Does this work for non native speakers? by PredatoryDuck · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I showed this to a student here who is native to Indonesia, so english is not her first language, and she had a very difficult time reading it. Any thoughts on why this might be so tied to your native tongue? I would have thought that anyone fluent in english (which she is) would be able to read the post without much difficulty.

    D

  7. Take that 9th grade English teacher.... by SomeoneGotMyNick · · Score: 5, Funny

    Throw out the I before E rule once and for all.

  8. Re:Yes, a cat's got my tongue, OK? by Bame+Flait · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually, does this work well with letter pairs like, "th ch wh sh qu?" I forget what those are called.

    The reason it DOES work well with those letter pairs is that they aren't familiar at all in reverse. You're more likely to udnerstand their juxtaposition as what it's supposed to be, because you're used to it being one way.

    Where it DOESN'T work as well is when you begin breaking up complex phonemes or diphthongs in short words. Konw what I'm sayin'?

  9. Only part of the answer.... by Mattcelt · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Understanding a language is only 50% comprehension. The other 50% is being able to predict what will come next based on previous experience. This is especially important in spoken language, because the brain simply does not have the power to parse each word separately in real time.

    So while it is possible to understand words that are not spelled correctly, it can still take a while to understand if the nxet few wdors are not qieut waht you epcext. It is aslo mcuh lses pbatldicree wehn you use lgenor wdros.

    I hpoe tihs was an imuilntinag eplamxe!

    Mclettat

  10. The bset prat by kuwan · · Score: 5, Funny

    The best part of the pearl script is the copyright notice:

    # Coyprgiht (C) 2003 Jamie Zawinski
    #
    # Premssioin to use, cpoy, mdoify, drusbiitte, and slel this stafowre and its
    # docneimuatton for any prsopue is hrbeey ganrted wuihott fee, prveodid taht
    # the avobe cprgyioht noicte appaer in all coipes and that both taht
    # cohgrypit noitce and tihs premssioin noitce aeppar in suppriotng
    # dcoumetioantn. No rpeersneatiotns are made about the siuatbliity of tihs
    # srofawte for any puorpse. It is provedid "as is" wiuotht exerpss or
    # ilmpied waanrrty.

  11. Not entirely accurate by StewedSquirrel · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The "consonant pairs" seem to always be still paired in these words.

    If I type

    sllpenig it's clear I'm typing "spelling"

    but, if I type

    slpenlig it's not so clear anymore.

    What about: according

    Aoccdrnig (as in the article) is ok but...
    aocdrncig is not nearly as clear

    There's a limit to how far your brain can stretch it. Some consonant pairs your brain DOES intepret much like a single letter, because it's an irregularity in english.

    Words that use such consonant pairs and triplets like "tch" are much harder to distinguish when those pairs and triplets (which really sound like a single letter) are split.

    Stewey

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  12. What?!? No "Frist Psot"? by momerath2003 · · Score: 5, Funny
    I can't believe it! I was assuming that someone, someone out there (especially the first poster) would do it!

    Come on, you slacker trolls!

    (ethighy-ftifh psot!)

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  13. ynlo gcramblins eht tirsf dna tasl setterl by vevva · · Score: 5, Funny

    Eht sbviouo txperimene ot monfirc eht yheort si ot ees thaw sappenh nhew uoy ecrambls ynlo eht tirsf dna tasl setterl dna eeavl eht eiddlm setterl eht eams. Eompletc Kobbledegoog.

  14. SPAM?!?!?!? by mcrbids · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ok, so now they discover that randomizing the text within words doesn't detract (too much) from readability - does that mean we'll soon be seeing:

    ELNRAGE YUOR PNEIS!!!

    on the subject lines of emails received? How would any of the pattern matching anti-spam methods out there deal with this one?

    And, we just gave them the tool do use!

    -Ben

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    1. Re:SPAM?!?!?!? by Dirtside · · Score: 5, Funny
      ELNRAGE YUOR PNEIS!!!
      Wow, when I first read that, my brain parsed it as "ENRAGE YOUR PENIS!!!" Which sounds like a really bad idea.
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  15. This is old news, here's the original by thejackol · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is so darn old... I thought Slashdot was bleeding edge! Here is the original forward FYI:

    Titled: Do Spellings Matter?

    "... randomising letters in the middle of words [has] little or no effect on the ability of skilled readers to understand the text. This is easy to denmtrasote. In a pubiltacion of New Scnieitst you could ramdinose all the letetrs, keipeng the first two and last two the same, and
    reibadailty would hadrly be aftcfeed. My ansaylis did not come to much beucase the thoery at the time was for shape and senqeuce retigcionon.

    Saberi's work sugsegts we may have some pofrweul palrlael prsooscers at work. The resaon for this is suerly that idnetiyfing coentnt by paarllel
    prseocsing speeds up regnicoiton. We only need the first and last two letetrs to spot chganes in meniang"

    And if you liked *that* one so much, you might like this one too:

    Read the sentence below carefully:

    "I do not know where family doctors acquired illegibly perplexing handwriting nevertheless, extraordinary pharmaceutical intellectuality counterbalancing indecipherability, transcendentalizes intercommunications' incomprehensibleness".

    This is a sentence where the Nth word is N letters long.

    e.g. 3rd word is 3 letters long, 8th word is 8 letters long and so on.

    And if you like that one too, here is another one you can try to kill your boredom...

    While sitting, draw clockwise circles on the ground with your right foot. While doing that, try drawing the number "6" in air with your right hand.

    Your foot will change direction.

  16. impruvd inglis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I like the proposed UN English language modifications to make English easier for everyone to learn!

    The European Union commissioners have announced that agreement has been reached to adopt English as the preferred language for European communications, rather than German, which was the other possibility.

    As part of the negotiations, the British government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a five-year phased plan for what will be known as EuroEnglish (Euro for short).

    In the first year, "s" will be used instead of the soft "c". Sertainly, sivil servants will resieve this news with joy. Also, the hard "c" will be replaced with "k". Not only will this klear up konfusion, but typewriters kan have one less letter.

    There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year, when the troublesome "ph" will be replaced by "f". This will make words like "fotograf" 20 per sent shorter.

    In the third year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments will enkorage the removal of double letters, which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horible mes of silent "e"s in the languag is disgrasful, and they would go.

    By the fourth year, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th" by "z" and "w" by " v".

    During ze fifz year, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords kontaining "ou", and similar changes vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinations of leters.

    After zis fifz yer, ve vil hav a reli sensibl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubls or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi tu understand ech ozer. Ze drem vil finali kum tru.

  17. Re:Yes, a cat's got my tongue, OK? by kcurtis · · Score: 5, Funny

    My neighbor weighed your argument. He used a beige scale, and decided it was probably the heinous act of a foreigner to make such a statement. And you're weird. So rein in yourself, and remove the veil of ignorance, ye feisty cad!

    Thou should forfeit karma, but that is neither here nor there.

  18. Bit of a simplistic article... by quinkin · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The best example I can think of for comprehension failure with jumbled text is with ordered interdependant phonemes. For instance - "eau", or "ough".

    Turhgoh = Through

    A topic that does not seem to have had much coverage in this article is the actual iconic visual recognition that our brains appear to use in word recognition.

    Obviously each word approximates a patterned rectangle (serif fonts emphasize this further) with occasional outliers (ie. t, y, l, and any other letters that protrude above or below the base rectangle).

    People with poor eyesight rely on this fuzzy but fast recognition frequently. In fact there is a classic psych experiment based around displaying a word that iconically is very similar to another word, while simultaneously presenting a context that implies the second word, and asking the subject to record the word. The subject mis-records the word roughly 90% of the time.

    Q.

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