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Magnets To Replace Bluetooth?

aceat64 writes "News.com is carrying a story that suggests magnets could eventually replace Bluetooth as a cheaper and more energy effiect wireless solution. The concept of magnetic induction isn't new, but Aura has managed to shrink the technology onto a single chip. The first device to be made using the technology is a wireless headset that will cost between $60 and $80."

193 comments

  1. Replace bluetooth? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Talk about lack of ambition.

    1. Re:Replace bluetooth? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's an open source businessmodel.

      1: Write free software.
      2: ?
      3: Use magnetism instead of radio for signals.
      4: Profit!

    2. Re:Replace bluetooth? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      News for dentists. Matter that stuffs.

    3. Re:Replace bluetooth? by R.Caley · · Score: 1
      Talk about lack of ambition.

      Actually, it is hard to reach such a high value of

      deployed units
      ---------------
      use

      Bluetooth is second only to clocks on video recorders in this field.

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  2. YES! by DrEldarion · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is JUST what we need! A bunch of wild magnetic fields around our electrical equipment! I can't wait to get an adapter for my computer, there's space in the case right next to my hard drive...

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    1. Re:YES! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Just wait for the neat hacks, like emitting signals to ALL headsets in range by computer controlled constant degaussing of your monitor.

      You won''t be able to see much and the monitor mightn't last long, but for long range gimmi^H^H^H^H^H^Hemergency broadcasts it can't be beat LALL!

    2. Re:YES! by BetterThanCaesar · · Score: 3, Funny

      Look at those groovy colors on my screen, man! Totally psychadelic!

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    3. Re:YES! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think it's an open source businessmodel.

      1: Write free software.
      2: ?
      3: Get harddrive erased by a magnetic signal transmitter.
      4: Profit!

    4. Re:YES! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      psychedelic

    5. Re:YES! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Go clueless spelling Nazi. The word is psychadelic

      LALL!

    6. Re:YES! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Can I use a magnetic, hands free earpiece and still wear aluminum foil hat at the same time?

    7. Re:YES! by spektr · · Score: 1
      Replace bluetooth? -- Talk about lack of ambition.
      A bunch of wild magnetic fields around our electrical equipment!

      Seems to be a good example of a disruptive technology
    8. Re:YES! by jph · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Degaussing your monitor emits just a short pulse every 5 seconds or so. I don't think it's enough "magnetic noise" to saturate headset receiver, especially if the communication itself is digital over magnetic waves/fields with error correction and all.

    9. Re:YES! by questamor · · Score: 1, Funny

      But what about a beowulf cluster of monit....

      ahh forget it

    10. Re:YES! by BetterThanCaesar · · Score: 1

      Thank you, Mr Coward. Greek is, as you can see, not my native language.

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    11. Re:YES! by bar-agent · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hah! You fools, with your non-automatically-spell-checking text entry fields! I scoff at you! And laugh! I both scoff and laugh! WE shall rule the spelling wars! Us Mac users, with our automatically-spell-checking text entry fields! And, while ruling, we shall laugh and scoff!

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    12. Re:YES! by Rolo+Tomasi · · Score: 1

      Grant you the cheap joke, but ... you do know that there are some insanely strong magnets right in your hard drive, right? In fact, the coercivity of today's hard disk media is so high that I'd even venture to say that any type of magnet short of a liquid nitrogen cooled superconducting coil wouldn't be strong enough to affect the data on your hard drive.

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    13. Re:YES! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, based on the technical papers out on the web for these guys, you're not going to get any "electrical problems" with their technology. Their field intensity rolls off steeply and power output is about .2microwatts!!! Do a little web searching and read for yourself

    14. Re:YES! by Yottabyte84 · · Score: 1

      Yup. Aluminum is not magnetic, so as long as it doesn't cover your earpeice everything should be fine. However, if your earpeice is analog, subliminal messages me be superimposed into the normal signal by your toaster.

    15. Re:YES! by excessive · · Score: 1
      Short pulse every 5 seconds or so?

      My experience is more TVs, I suppose... (Which typically auto-degauss when they're cold and you switch on - the time they degauss depends on a temperature dependant resistor that gets heated up by the current used to run the degauss circuitry...)

  3. Induction by polyp2000 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Correct me if i'm wrong but dont most Radio transmission technologies use some form of magnetic induction in order to achieve their goal. Last i heard passing electricity through a coil produces a magnetic field. Whats new here?

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    1. Re:Induction by azaris · · Score: 5, Informative

      Correct me if i'm wrong but dont most Radio transmission technologies use some form of magnetic induction in order to achieve their goal.

      The point is using magnetic fields and mutual inductance rather than electromagnetic radiation to transfer information wirelessly.

      Last i heard passing electricity through a coil produces a magnetic field.

      More precisely, passing an alternating current through any conductor will produce a magnetic field. This magnetic field in turn will create a current in another conductor some distance away (the article sites four feet as the maximum distance) which can be used to observer the original signal.

      It's an old concept, but since magnetic fields created by normal AC powers are pretty weak it's not really that useful. Apparently they've managed a very-high frequency (the effect is proportional to the change in current) alternating current in a chip small enough to make this possible.

    2. Re:Induction by GigsVT · · Score: 2, Insightful

      DC produces a field too, it's just a static field, so unless you move the conductor around physically, it's not going to cause any currents in other conductors.

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    3. Re:Induction by v1 · · Score: 3, Interesting


      Radio waves are referred to as "electro-magnetic radiation". There is no such thing as a magnetic component without an electrical component, or vice-versa. The two fields compliment eachother.

      Another interesting thing mentioned in the article was that this magnetic field made a "bubble" that "stopped" at four feet. Magnetic field strength decays at the same rate as the electrical component. If you want a smaller "bubble" for wireless, just cut the power down. I don't see a difference here, unless they are just planning on running really low power as a general rule, and I suppose this would also explain the longer battery life they describe.

      I'm really not seeing the difference here. The only thing the article mentions that really separates this from radio is the frequency, which they only vaguely described as "used by industrial and medical" applications. I'm going to guess this means either very high frequency or very low frequency. Very high frequency is far from efficient, and is already staked out well in the bandplan. If they're targetting very low frequency, (VLF) then there's no way they'll have the bandwidth necessary for video as the article suggests.

      The article also said "interferance is not an issue". 640k of memory will be plenty, too. I normally don't slam on people, but this article just reeks of lack of forethought and research. It's only natural that any new technology niche has breathing room, until it becomes popular. I'm sure cell phone makers 10 yrs ago didn't expect to ever use even 30% of their allotted spectrum.

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    4. Re:Induction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      An interesting thing to know for the geeks out there who aren't aware. Twisted pair cable is designed to be the perfect balance between inductance and capacitance. There's a reason why you shouldn't untwist it.

      From what I remember in electronics class, a conductor doesn't induct until it's no longer perfectly straight. So an antenna shouldn't induct. I'm not sure how a resonator plays into things though. (I do computers, not radios.)

    5. Re:Induction by evilty · · Score: 1

      I don't remember all the specifics but I once read a book on magnetism (not an intro to physics text book) that talked about different kinds of waves propagating from electromagnetic devices. There are your standard radio waves, which propagate for a long, distance and then there are other kinds of waves, which die off much more quickly (in the range of a few wavelengths). If the frequency of this device is in the right range, the waves would propagate a few feet before decaying so close to nothing that they would be hard to detect. I think an example of these kinds of waves could been demonstrated by using an electric guitar plugged in to an amp as your receiver and bringing devices with simple motors in them near by. The motor should be very loud if you're relatively close to the device, but not noticeable if you move a few feet away. I read this book a while ago at it was a pretty old book at the time; who knows, I might be completely wrong about this.

    6. Re:Induction by Illbay · · Score: 1
      Whats new here?

      Replacing Bluetooth.

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    7. Re:Induction by SagSaw · · Score: 1

      Just so nobody is confused, DC current also produces a magnetic field.

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    8. Re:Induction by ron_ivi · · Score: 2, Informative
      polyp2000 wrote: "but dont most Radio transmission technologies use some form of magnetic induction...Whats new here?"

      did you RTFA?

      CNet claims "Magnetic induction differs from Bluetooth and just about every other wireless technique now available, most of which use what's known as radio frequency, or RF, signals--bursts of electrical energy that waft out like ripples in a pond until they reach an antenna.

      Magnetic fields also create waves, but the waves form a kind of bubble, which stops growing after four feet, making them more secure than waves wafting endlessly in every direction, Cui said."

      I think the author of the article was shooting for 5-funny.

    9. Re:Induction by deglr6328 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      When I first read the article I thought I smelled BS too. The number of "you can't have a varying magnetic field without a varying electric field!!" post's below also indicate a frustration with the marketroid speek that pervades the article and a general lack of scientific cluelessness of the writer.

      The key to understanding how this thing works (and yes the technique is old) is getting to understand the difference between NEARFIELDS and FARFIELDS. The nearfield is the zone CLOSE to the antenna less than .5 pi wavelengths away while the transition zone to the farfield is from .5 pi to 1 wavelength away. Since the magnetic field is decaying with the inverse CUBE of the distance away from the antenna (along its axis anyway) and the electromagnetic field is only decaying with the suare of the distance, eventually the EM field dominates at a certain distance from the emitter (the FARFIELD). These sites helped me understand this much better than I did a few minutes ago :-]. http://www.caves.org/section/commelect/mm/mm06.htm l and http://www-training.llnl.gov/wbt/hc/NonIonizing/Ne arFields.html. again nothing new here just a rehash of a discovery made by Faraday et. al.

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    10. Re:Induction by deglr6328 · · Score: 1

      Forgot to mention that it should be noted this technique of nearfield transmission can not be used for high data rate transmission for the following reason: you are limited by the Nyquist frequency. In other words the sampling frequency (your transmitting frequency) must be double that of your desired data rate you want to send. And you can see that because the farfield starts at ~.5 pi wavelengths away from the antenna, as the frequency of the transmiter increases, the distance from the transmitter at which the "farfield" dominates becomes less and less (ie. you are transmitting "conventionally" using EM waves closer and closer to the antenna as freq goes up.) so you are limited to low frequencies for this nearfield transmission technique and therefore can not transmit high data rates.

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    11. Re:Induction by Compuser · · Score: 1

      The big deal here is that they made a system
      where the signal rolls off as 1/r^6 rather than
      the usual 1/r^2. This means they concentrate their
      transmit power in a small radius around the device
      which makes it more power efficient.
      They note in their technology brief that yes they
      do have electric field generated too it's just
      less penetrating so magnetic field is preferable
      here since the goal is to save power.

    12. Re:Induction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More precisely, passing an alternating current through any conductor will produce a magnetic field. This magnetic field in turn will create a current in another conductor some distance away (the article sites four feet as the maximum distance) which can be used to observe the original signal.

      A constant current will also produce a magnetic field, but a constant field. Induction occurs when the expanding and collapsing magnetic field generated by a changing current cuts across another wire.

  4. Can you hear me now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    All my credit cards seem to be erased.

    1. Re:Can you hear me now? by Illbay · · Score: 1
      All my credit cards seem to be erased.

      Did you recently get married, by any chance?

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  5. Does anyone think about the environment? by spektr · · Score: 4, Funny

    Expect carrier pigeons crashing into your cell phone.

  6. Hrmm by acehole · · Score: 4, Funny

    Magnets... the geek's natural enemy, even more so than fresh air and natural light.

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    1. Re:Hrmm by Nucleon500 · · Score: 1

      Interesting point - what will the effect be on hard drives, tape backups, and monitors?

    2. Re:Hrmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wonder, how strong could this magnetic 'bubble' actually be?

  7. Bad news.... by moehoward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Bad news for Iron Man.

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    1. Re:Bad news.... by Illbay · · Score: 1

      I thought he had already survived the Great Magnetic Field. What's HE got to worry about?

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  8. Wow.. by Quixote · · Score: 1, Informative
    From the article:
    The magnetic approach also consumes very little power when compared with notorious battery-draining RF techniques like Bluetooth. According to a description on the Aura Web site, Fonegear's headset can keep going for up to three months on a single AA battery, as opposed to only a number of hours for equipment outfitted with Bluetooth.

    :-o

    1. Re:Wow.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Marketing bullshit

      My bluetooth headseat lasts far more than 2 weeks on 2 AA batteries, and I use it for several hours every working day.

      They obviously have a useful product if it can last three months on one battery, but saying "only a number of hours" for bluetooth equivalents would be like saying a DVD can store a whole movie but a CD can store "only a few seconds of video". Big marketing exaggeration, which makes me distrust them from the start.

  9. Interesting, indeed! by lordmetroid · · Score: 1

    I looking forward to see this technology and hearing more about it, as always I'm very open to new tech due to my principle and goal of life... However magnetics and magnetic storage doesn't math up, I remeber when we formatted HDD the hardcore way by using string magnets around attached to it!

  10. What's the attraction? by dcw3 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm positively repelled by this, flux you very much.

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    1. Re:What's the attraction? by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "I'm positively repelled by this, flux you very much. "

      I'd laugh if it weren't for being bi-polar.

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  11. AT least it'll keep the loonies happy by rde · · Score: 5, Funny

    So the hapless doofi who've spent years thinking a) magnets can heal them and b) phones can give them cancer must be delighted with this new headset; it'll fix those brain tumours right up.

    D'you think it's coincidence that the company who came up with this is called Aura?

  12. Eh? by BJH · · Score: 5, Funny

    How can you replace a technology that nobody actually *uses*?

    1. Re:Eh? by Troed · · Score: 1

      Let me guess - you're american. Bluetooth is widely used where I live. Guess where.

    2. Re:Eh? by BJH · · Score: 1

      Interesting how quick you are to jump to conclusions. In actual fact, I live in Japan (and no, I'm not American). Bluetooth is included in quite a few products here, but I have yet to meet anyone who actually uses it.

    3. Re:Eh? by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      probably that you really should go outside sometime.

      or read the newspaper with the adds for 'bluetooth headset' or heck, you might even check the local computer resellers webpages sometime.

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    4. Re:Eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      USA: 290 million population
      EU: 400 million population.

      I think you're a bit clueless. The USA is only relevant these days because it has nuclear weapons.

    5. Re:Eh? by root_dev_X · · Score: 1

      you seem to be saying this as though it's not a good reason...

      don't make us revise the axis of evil!

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    6. Re:Eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      haha.. that foolish swede. i apologize for generalizing, but it does seem like an awful lot of swedes are extremely quick to spout anti-american propaganda any chance they get.

    7. Re:Eh? by Troed · · Score: 1

      You've never seen anyone with a Bluetooth headset?

      That does indeed sound weird.

    8. Re:Eh? by BJH · · Score: 1

      Wireless headsets here have tended to go down the RF route rather than Bluetooth.

    9. Re:Eh? by Troed · · Score: 1

      Bluetooth = RF .. and is encrypted, protected against disturbance etc.

    10. Re:Eh? by BJH · · Score: 1

      Well, no... Bluetooth is a protocol, whereas RF headsets are effectively just a transmitter/receiver pair; no protocol involved.

    11. Re:Eh? by Troed · · Score: 2, Informative

      ... which means you don't have the security. Bluetooth also runs over RF - it's more than protocol on top of an independent bearer. I'm very surprised that you have people using a bad system in Japan when you have the hardware to use a good one.

      Yes, I work in the telecom industry ..

  13. Infomercials? by RalphBinaca · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I can just now see the new line of infomercials talking about combining the freedom of a wireless headset and the 'healing power' of magnets! Sweet Jesus...

  14. no on-off or stand-by button? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Docker uses a single AA primary cell battery to get up to 1500 minutes - 25 hours! - of talk time and 3 months of standby. What's more, Docker has no on-off or stand-by button, so you never need to remember to turn it off.

    it'll automatically turn off when the battery runs out though, so you'll have to remember to change the battery.

  15. Total hogwash... by Davoid · · Score: 2, Insightful

    OK I RTFAd and unless there has been a change in the fundamental laws of physics and the properties of electrical and magnetic fields then this whole thing is just BS.
    You can NOT get a varying magnetic field without also getting a varying electrical field. That is the way the physical universe works. If you can not vary the magnetic field... how are you going to send a signal from the transmitter to the receiver?

    -DU-...etc...

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    1. Re:Total hogwash... by lxmeister · · Score: 2, Informative
      Magnetic fields also create waves, but the waves form a kind of bubble, which stops growing after four feet, making them more secure than waves wafting endlessly in every direction, Cui said.

      I assumed that they would just be modulating the magnetic field with the signal rather than modulating a carrier signal with a high frequency.

      The description above is nothing like I heard in physics at school but it may be that lower frequency signals have a shorter range.

    2. Re:Total hogwash... by Ratow · · Score: 1

      From Aura's Press Release:

      LibertyLink's magnetic communication operates in the low-frequency industrial, scientific and medical band at 13.5 MHz

      So I can't see any difference between this and other technologies, apart from a lower frequency of operation.

      Hum... this reminds me that a wave's energy is proportional to its frequency, so perhaps this thing really uses less energy than, say, Bluetooth.

      By the way, what frequency Bluetooth uses?

    3. Re:Total hogwash... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not total hogwash if you read between the lines. It's not terribly clear from the article, but the issue is that of current-based modulation versus voltage-based modulation. Standard antenna transmission systems generate a signal by varying the voltage of the antenna. A transmission system based on magnetic induction would generate a signal by varying the current flowing through an electromagnet. The medium is the same (E-M waves), but the endpoints are different.

    4. Re:Total hogwash... by jovlinger · · Score: 1

      nah, they've just invented a magnetic monopole. By varying the strength of the monopole, they can induce a current in another monopole up to four feet away. Pretty much the same thing as EM transmission.

      At least, that's what I got from the article.

    5. Re:Total hogwash... by astroboscope · · Score: 4, Informative
      Magnetic fields also create waves, but the waves form a kind of bubble, which stops growing after four feet, making them more secure than waves wafting endlessly in every direction, Cui said.

      It's vague, but I think this means it it using the "near field" instead of the propagating field. A transmitting antenna emits two fields: a propagating electromagnetic wave (i.e. light) whose intensity drops off like 1/r^2, and a nonpropagating electromagnetic field that drops off like 1/r^4 (which is why it's called the near field). It can carry a lot of power, but since it doesn't go anywhere it is usually ignored.

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    6. Re:Total hogwash... by Patrik_AKA_RedX · · Score: 1
      how are you going to send a signal from the transmitter to the receiver?
      Probably the same way you would do it with radio: by modulating your datasignal on a carrier signal.
      AFAIK this is some sort of coreless transformer: 2 coils coupled together by a magnetic field.
      One could send out a magnetic field with a particular frequency and change this frequency according to your input data (yep, old style frequency modulation).

      I don't think this so dramaticaly differend from radio tranceivers and I doubt these fields would be strong enough to errase a HD or mess up a CRT. I've use a cell phone at less than 1m of a CRT without interferance and these phones emit about 1W of signal.
    7. Re:Total hogwash... by keirnoff · · Score: 1

      If they did I hope the Nobel Committe heard about it, because "inventing the magnetic monopole" would be the most fundamental breakthrough in electromagnetic theory since Faraday's law. A magneti monopole would violate Gauss's Law of magnetism.

    8. Re:Total hogwash... by stph · · Score: 1

      Now the real question to ask is this. If they are impressing a signal on the near-field and taking advantage of its short range and low-power requirements, what are they doing to suppress the propated EM field? If nothing, what are they doing to secure it from snooping. I don't see how you could place a signal on the near field without duplicating it on the EM field. Ought to be a field day for data snooping. Probably no worse then bluetooth except that with that technology one presumably cuts the EM signal strength to keep it to "personal" distances.

      Stph

    9. Re:Total hogwash... by bar-agent · · Score: 1

      I've never heard of the "near field". I can't find a good explanation via Google. Anybody got a link?

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  16. holistic benefits by stonebeat.org · · Score: 1

    finally using wireless technology will bring some holistic benefits, instead of just causing brain tumor ;)

    1. Re:holistic benefits by mkldev · · Score: 1
      Actually, using magnetic induction is much MORE likely to cause damage. Remember all the hoopla about people living under high tension lines and the EM radiation that surrounded those lines?

      Microwave RF has little to no measurable effect on the body unless it's right at the natural oscillating frequency of water (about 2.4 GHz), and even then, the effects from such a miniscule amount of energy are minimal.

      By contrast, magnetic fields have a very measurable effect on the body. Your blood is composed of about 7-28 umol/L, or if I did the math right, about 1 mg/L. Take a magnet and rub it near a vein sometime. If the field is strong enough, you get reorientation of the red blood cells, and eventually clumping of those cells. In sufficiently concentrated doses, the health effects could be significant.

      That's not saying that subjecting oneself to the typical levels of EM fields around you is necessarily dangerous. It probably isn't. But a magnetic radiative transmitter in a wireless headset? I don't bloody think so. Imagine those red blood cells clumping into a clot-like mass in your brain. Happy stroke to you.

      The reason so few people use bluetooth headsets is that the reason most people use headsets is to get the transmitter away from their heads. Replacing one transmitter with another is just plain nuts; whether it's bluetooth or magnetic just isn't the issue.

      Frankly, I'd much rather see research going into higher density battery technologies like fuel cels rather than reducing energy consumption by shifting from microwave RF to EM. However, if we are moving in this direction, it is vitally important that it go through -extensive- safety testing before it is deployed. The potential for serious injury if the manufacturer doesn't set reasonable limits on EM emissions is too great to ignore without further study.

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    2. Re:holistic benefits by jerde · · Score: 2, Informative

      By contrast, magnetic fields have a very measurable effect on the body. Your blood is composed of about 7-28 umol/L, or if I did the math right, about 1 mg/L. Take a magnet and rub it near a vein sometime. If the field is strong enough, you get reorientation of the red blood cells, and eventually clumping of those cells. In sufficiently concentrated doses, the health effects could be significant.

      That's false. Red blood cells do not clump in the presense of magnetic fields.

      There have been studies on the phosphene effect, where strong magnetic pulses cause subjects to percieve brief visual images.

      Lawrence Livermore National Labs has a page on the harmful effects of very strong magnetic fields, upwards of 40,000 Gauss -- but such fields are rarely encountered. Typical MRI magnetic fields, by comparison, are typically between 5,000 and 20,000 guass. But even in very high static magnetic fields, the effects are temporary.

      The big danger is for people with implanted metal, like pace makers or surgical clips.

      Now, I did find a study on red blood cells in very strong magnetic fields that does suggest that they reorient, even in fields as low as 10,000 Gauss. No mention of clumping.

      Your typical hand-held magnet, even a strong one, produces a field on the order of 4,000 Gauss. Not harmful.

      The fields produced by any kind of transmitters mentioned in the article would be tens or hundreds of Gauss -- too weak to move a paperclip.

      (The earth's magnetic field is about 0.5 Gauss, for comparison)

      On the other hand, the LLNL page mentions that magnetic fields equal to the strength of the Earth's can disrupt circadian rhythm! And it has been proven that birds are sensitive to the Earth's field... so even small magnetic fields can have a measurable biological effect.

      But FEAR FEAR FEAR is not warranted.

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    3. Re:holistic benefits by benzapp · · Score: 1

      You did your research.

      Good post.

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  17. Child Labour? by nih · · Score: 5, Funny

    'At the heart of the new interest in what's known as "magnetic induction" is Aura, or so claims the nine-year-old chipmaker'

    quick, somebody stop these fiends!

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    1. Re:Child Labour? by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      Bluetooth Manufacturer: "And we'd have gotten away with it, if it weren't for those meddling kids!"

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  18. Faraday by penguin7of9 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Developed in the late 1950s, magnetic induction never really caught on

    Gee, silly me, and I always thought Faraday developed "magnetic induction" and that it was in wide use. But, hey, it has turned out that, contrary to my own silly ideas, Gates actually invented the Internet and that BT invented the hyperlink, so I must be wrong on Faraday as well.

    1. Re:Faraday by azaris · · Score: 1
      Developed in the late 1950s, magnetic induction never really caught on

      Gee, silly me, and I always thought Faraday developed "magnetic induction" and that it was in wide use.

      I wonder what else was "developed" during the late 1950s? Gravity? Atoms? No doubt by the Americans who captured U-571 and won the Battle of Britain.

    2. Re:Faraday by menacing_cheese · · Score: 1

      That's funny. I always thought it was Al Gore who invented the internet.

  19. I'm... by Raagshinnah · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm wearing metal braces, you insensitive clod!

  20. Re:I HATE THIS by acehole · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    well why go here?

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  21. Other properties.. by mgcsinc · · Score: 1

    This cell phone has been certified by the Association of Alternative Medicines as an evvective communications/healing device.

    1. Re:Other properties.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      effective*

  22. Inductor by Llywelyn · · Score: 1

    Yeah, I guess I never really knew what an Inductor actually did in a circuit... I guess Physics II and Circuits were a waste of time...

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  23. "could eventually" by gl4ss · · Score: 3, Funny

    also in news, segways could eventually replace cars on commuting, rocket packs could eventually replace aeroplanes, slashdotter could eventually get laid..

    you get it, anything could eventually do anything.

    (and bluetooth is not useless, obsolote tech. it's pretty useful, and if you're bitchin that you don't need a cellular then it really doesn't make much sense to bitch about not needing bluetooth fo r it)

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  24. Re:I HATE THIS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    then: Bu-Bye! (And take your annoying little dog with you, too...)

  25. Hmm... by DoorFrame · · Score: 4, Funny

    I installed one at my home yesterday, and today my hard drive isn't working and my monitor's got all sorts of funny colors on it. I'm posting this from work... I think I'll install one here to trouble shoot.

    Just a se

  26. Magnets by ScrewMaster · · Score: 4, Informative

    A broadcast antenna is a magnet, an electromagnet, one that changes polarity many times per second, and that varying electromagnetic field is what induces a response in the receiving antenna. This is called radio transmission (see Marconi, or better yet look up Heinrich Hertz or James Clerk Maxwell.) If this so-called technology is claiming to transmit information using a static magnetic field they are full of little red ants. Phooey.

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    1. Re:Magnets by TeknoHog · · Score: 4, Informative
      This technology does use changing magnetic fields, but it is still different from EM radiation.

      There are different kinds of modes for electric and magnetic fields to work with. EM radiation is just one of them, but it is special in the way that it can cross arbitrary distances if properly focused. This works because a sinusoidally changing electric field generates similarly changing magnetic fields, which in turn generate similarly changing electric fields. In a way, the fields themselves are not traveling, but they build up new fields in succession, hence propagating the signal.

      In every practical antenna, other modes of electric/magnetic fields are present besides the radiation component. However, the other modes disappear faster than the radiation, as they do not rebuild themselves. The inductive method relies on these other modes, using very different kinds of antenna which don't produce much of the radiation component.

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    2. Re:Magnets by awfar · · Score: 1

      I BOW to you, Sir. I have never seen it put so lucid, succint, and clearly, a topic I have wrestled with for decades since the first time I tried magnetic induction for a wireless speaker project. It was never adequately described, and you did it completely without the calculus.

    3. Re:Magnets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You cleary know some buzz words about RF transmissions.....now try thinking like an engineer and kill the E field....that leaves the B field in tact which can also be modulated....Sound to me like they've created a product that does use the static field and the intensity drop dramatically off. Their web site also says that they modulate the magnetic field at 10-15MHz. This would keep them a lot less interference than the crowed 2.4GHz band. Additionally, since the field has a steep roll-off, security (meaning - no one listening in) is pretty good. Someone would have to be standing next to you in order to pick up the signal....hm....maybe they are smarter than we think!!!

    4. Re:Magnets by egork · · Score: 1

      hm....maybe they are smarter than we (think)!!
      Certainly!

  27. In other news... by ditto999999999999999 · · Score: 1

    In other news, the letter "B" is replacing Shakespeares "Hamlet"... For some reason, that's what it sounds like to me :)

  28. Replacing bluetooth? by Xerithane · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Hey, look over there it's bluetooth!"

    "What, where?"

    "Oh, sorry, you missed it."

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  29. Re:I HATE THIS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well it'll really bug you that I just modded you down then ;)

    Ho ho ho.

  30. Explain? by t_allardyce · · Score: 1

    After reading the article and the aura site i still have absolutely no idea how this works, can someone please explain? Articles that talk about rippling pond water and secure bubbles are usually marketing crap.

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    1. Re:Explain? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Very basically:

      Current through a wire (and especially a coil) sets up a magnetic field. Call this the transmitter.

      When you change the amount of current flowing, you change the "strength" of the magnetic field. Vary the current as you vary the signal you're sending.

      A changing magnetic field can induce current in a wire (and especially coil) some distance away. This current can be amplified and there you have the signal that was sent by the transmitter.

    2. Re:Explain? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      not at all, RF devices send out radio waves in all directions. Aura's product somehow creates a signal that only travels 4-5 feet and then totally dissapears. This is actually good since the signals don't keep going out to interfer with other devices. With regards to their comment on security, I think they're trying to say that someone who wants to listen into your conversation, has to be standing next to you since the signal doesn't travel very far. Consider Bluetooth, it's signals travel very far. While they claim it will only work within a 10meter distance, anyone with a high gain antenna can receive the signal hundreds of feet away. No security with Bluetooth!

    3. Re:Explain? by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

      It's a transformer with a huge air gap.

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  31. You Liar by anubios · · Score: 1
    Gates actually invented the Internet

    Internet was invented by Al Gore ;)

  32. Aura's Explanation of this Tech... by Flave · · Score: 4, Informative

    Like many here, I was very skeptical when I read this article -- the reporter is clearly a total sci/tech ignoramus (you gotta love the totally redundant "cordless cell phone").

    So I went to Aura's website for more info. Here's their blurb:

    While the concepts behind magnetic induction communication have been around for decades, Aura's engineers are the first to develop and implement practical solutions capturing the benefits of this technology.

    Conventional radio frequency (RF) wireless communication systems are optimal for sending large amounts of information and communicating over long distances. However, this consumes power, creates information security issues, and results in interference and "crowding" among devices. A good example is in the 2.4 GHz band where simultaneous operation of a cordless phone, WiFi network and Bluetooth headset is frequently not possible without severe degradation of Quality of Service. In sharp contrast, LibertyLink's magnetic communication operates in a "bubble" that envelops the personal space of each user and is - by the laws of physics - inherently private and secure. The result is an easier to use, lower-cost system that makes far more efficient use of power and bandwidth than conventional RF solutions. By selecting a technology that limits the range and bandwidth to only what the application requires, Aura achieves a very substantial savings in power with all of the simplicity advantages of LibertyLink: dedicated communication channels, no bandwidth sharing, complete frequency re-use between bubbles, worldwide regulatory flexibility, and reliable coexistence with WiFi, CDMA, TDMA. and GSM transmissions.


    Still pretty vague -- how the hell do they handle interference issues in this "magnetic bubble"? Do they supply Faraday cages for your PC/monitor?

    1. Re:Aura's Explanation of this Tech... by ScrewMaster · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, according to The Making of Star Trek, a Cochrane warp field generator creates a bubble of "warp space" around the generator. This effectively places anything inside the field into a transient alternate universe: electromagnetic fields on either side cannot penetrate this bubble. So, presumably the people that came up with this "magnetic communications" technology simply supply a low-powered warp-field generator with each device, thereby limiting the effective communications range.

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    2. Re:Aura's Explanation of this Tech... by fermion · · Score: 2, Insightful
      My confusion is that the security claims are bogus based on 'electric' portion of the EM field still being necessarily coded.

      An alternating current creates and EM field. The strength of the the two portions of the field related to the strength of the current, the configuration of the 'antennae' and the distance from the 'antennae'

      To create a strong magnetic field, it seems one would have loops. The loops would create a strong magnetic field based on number, radius, and current. A electric field would also be created based on the same, but perhaps less so on the radius. So, if we drive the magnetic field, it seems we would also be making similar changes to the electric field.

      Therefore, even if they were creating a magnetic field sufficiently weak, which would occur with small loops, so that the natural decay rate made it barely perceptible at a meter or so, it seem that there would still be a detectable electric field.

      This might not be a problem if they were varying the radius of the coil using, perhaps, a piezoelectric device, and receiving with a similar piezoelectric device.

      I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong.

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    3. Re:Aura's Explanation of this Tech... by keirnoff · · Score: 1

      The magnetic component is probably not much stronger than for RF signals, the interference is low. The signal is also high frequency so it shouldn't effect monitors (they won't resonate with it). This is a niche technology that can only do these limited buble applications. We will not be seeing MI cell phones anytime soon.

    4. Re:Aura's Explanation of this Tech... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You might be wrong. Cell phones are going completely multimedia and Bluetooth (or something like it) will not be able to deliver wireless audio/voice to the headset due to interference issues with other devices. MI could well be the answer here.

    5. Re:Aura's Explanation of this Tech... by gumbi+west · · Score: 1

      The annoying thing about MI cell phones would be the cells every 4 feet. And one for every company too!

    6. Re:Aura's Explanation of this Tech... by shrikel · · Score: 1
      cordless cell phone

      Yeah, it plugs straight into the wall socket -- no need for a power cord to recharge it!

      Where's your imagination? ;)

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  33. Aw, Shit by waldoj · · Score: 1

    I just got Bluetooth!

    Stupid technology...

    -Waldo Jaquith

  34. Time flies by michiel.h · · Score: 1

    Did we even _start_ using Bluetooth yet?

  35. Van Eck Phreaking? by TinheadNed · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Assuming this isn't all complete bollocks, about which I'm going to hold an open mind, as I'm not entirely sure how this thing would work near computers or pylons, or electrified rail tracks, or power mains, unless it has some AMAZINGLY good filtering in it.

    Anyway, assuming that, does that mean we get a chip on a usb stick (say), that would allow Van Eck Phreaking to be done at home? I mean, if you can send useful amounts of data through this technology, it must be good enough to pick up clock signals and keyboard presses?

    I know this post is amazingly vague, but so is the technology.

    1. Re:Van Eck Phreaking? by sketerpot · · Score: 1
      Persoanlly, I'm just thinking of the havoc you could cause with the 25 Tesla magnet that was on slashdot a while back.

      /me laughs like Kefka! Ueeeheeheehee! ;-)

  36. Hey! by ShadowRage · · Score: 2, Funny

    I know how magnets heal people! you take a large magnet and beat a pseudo-spiritual idiot over the head with it, thus you healed the world of one less germ! I read this headline and saw "magnets" and first thing that came to mind was "erased hard drive" so, replacing a technology that no one uses with a technology no one will use.. smart idea! I think I'll start selling AOL cd's instead of music cd's to get my business flourishing!

  37. Please Correct Me If I'm Wrong... by dupper · · Score: 1

    ...but doesn't every form of wireless transmission that exists use magnets for transmission? Temporary magnets, electromagnets, but how could anything be done fixed magnets, which are, well, fixed? I'd be impressed if something cool were to replace EM transmission, like gravity, or the strong nuclear force, or midgets on scooters. Yeah, that last one would be cool.

    1. Re:Please Correct Me If I'm Wrong... by jimmy_dean · · Score: 1

      No, it's a similar concept but it's not a magnet. Traditional wireless transmission works by resonating (or vibrating) the antenna at the current frequency of a fixed or tuneable circuit. This is not electromagnetic or else we'd be in a lot of trouble if it was. We couldn't do nearly the same things that we could wirelessly if it were all electromagnetic. Just think about that, if it were I believe in theory (meaning it's my idea, not something I've seen or proven), one could then take a relatively strong magnet and attrack all of the wireless magnetic signals just to themselves, greatly reducing and interfering with the reception for other people.

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  38. It's nice to know this is new technology (not) by panurge · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Obviously the magnetic induction loops in churches and halls that transmit the sound to hearing aids don't count because they are some primitive old technology.

    Actually, I have to wear a hearing aid in one ear due to mid-ear damage, and I'm expecting before long to have an inductive loop for my cell phone that means handsfree use without any kind of additional earpiece. Apart from convincing people that I'm completely mad and talking to myself in the street, it should be a considerable improvement over bluetooth headsets, which, compared to either of my hearing aids, are heavy and have poor frequency response.

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    1. Re:It's nice to know this is new technology (not) by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 1
      They make a point of pointing out in the article that it is NOT new tech. The new thing is the size. Remember no matter what the girls tell you, smaller is better. Those old examples are way to big to carry around in your pocket.

      So no nothing new, in the same way the transistors did nothing really new. Except they did it while being really really small.

      Of course I am just getting all kinds of funny images of what will happen with conflicting magnetic fields. But they are probably way to low in power to do anything funny.

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    2. Re:It's nice to know this is new technology (not) by zanzibuz · · Score: 1

      I too wear hearing aides, and mine have the ability to use the inductive loops for hearing aides or from regular landline phones.

      I think this magnetic field idea is extremely bad because of all the interference it would create. I have noticed that I cannot talk on ANY telephone with my hearing aides within about 10 feet of a computer monitor. The magnetic humm creates noise that drowns a conversation out. Luckily I can hear well enough to talk on a phone without my aides, and that is what I have to do. People who have worse hearing than me would be stuck.

      I do not like the sound of this technology because it would mean that there would be more magnetic fields that would be picked up by the hearing aides. It would make it so that a person who is hard-of-hearing would not get the clear signal from their own phone like they are accustomed. Instead they would get a cross combination of the signal from their phone and the guy's headphones the next cubicle over. The end result is that the person with the hearing aides suffers, and they cannot hear a telephone conversation because their neighbor has a bluetooth replacement.

      I fear this technology. Its hard enough to live in a world with bad hearing. This would make it just a bit worse.

  39. Been around a long time by CaptainFrito · · Score: 2, Interesting
    This technique has been used succesfully to transmit data over short distances for quite some time. Some technologies used by the RFID world use a modulated magnetic field rather than a modulated electric field (inductive vs capacitive) coupling. The magnetic field can be used as a power source to the remote device ands hence can be directly embedded into live animals for tracking and identification without the need for a an embedded power source. I believe California has adopted this as a means of identifying domestic animals. But the technology has been used commercially, that I know of, for at least 20 years.

    I don't believe that the magnetic fields would need to be so strong that they would cause a problem for magnetic media, but there are probably too many variables to generalize. Think "speakers" here. These generally use magentic coupling too to send information wirelessly (albeit at acoustic frequencies).

  40. military benefits by harriet+nyborg · · Score: 1
    The Department of Defense is also using a magnetic approach with rifle-mounted video cameras that can wirelessly beam images to a helmet-worn monitor. Using the gear, next-generation warriors won't have to expose themselves to enemy fire during battle by poking their heads out of a foxhole or around a corner.

    rat-a-tat-tat...

  41. Of Course by m1a1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Not only can magnets give you lighter wireless communication, but also eternal life!

  42. Geee-what a new concept... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you open any shortwave radio, you'll find ferrite antena inside-antenna which reacts on the magnetic part of EM radiation...

    There is no magnetic radiation without electric field radiation, which means that all that is really EM radiation as well. One implies another.

    Ehhh, slashdot science...

    It could be said that "new" comm way doesn't use resonant prioperties of its antenna, but even that is hardly novel.

    Antenna resonance might be a bad thing for modern high bandwidth communication, but without it environmental noise becomes bigger problem...

  43. WELCOME! by Eric_Cartman_South_P · · Score: 1
    I, for one, welcome our new magnetic Overlords!

  44. "Bubble"? by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

    > Magnetic fields also create waves, but the waves
    > form a kind of bubble, which stops growing after
    > four feet, making them more secure than waves
    > wafting endlessly in every direction, Cui said.

    Doesn't anybody study physics any more?

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    1. Re:"Bubble"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No,No,that'd be *FAR* too sensible! They just do a totally random pin the tail on the donkey thing blindfolded - and hope.

    2. Re:"Bubble"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's pretty clear to me that this is just marketing-speak for the
      near-field of an antenna. The physics isn't necessarily bogus.

    3. Re:"Bubble"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree, the physics is pretty good, you ought to read some of the papers out there on this stuff, I've found a number of technical postings. They've apparently done their homework and it looks like they'll have a real product in the stores for Xmas.

  45. Please stop this joke. It's no longer funny. by TeknoHog · · Score: 1, Troll

    In Soviet Russia, Overlords welcome You!

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    1. Re:Please stop this joke. It's no longer funny. by Eric_Cartman_South_P · · Score: 1

      Soviet Russia, No Carrier, Overlord jokes. Yeah, it is getting very unfunny. It's the same shit over and ov$gh&tj3jds&ATDT!1[NO CARRIER]

    2. Re:Please stop this joke. It's no longer funny. by BarryJacobsen · · Score: 1

      /.ers made a plan:

      1. No Carrier Jokes
      2. Overlord Jokes
      3. Russia Jokes
      4. ???
      5. Profit!

      dammit, they got me doing it.

  46. Oh FFS, it's just spin.... by xA40D · · Score: 1

    A single manufacturer is selling a "cordless cell phone headsets" which no mobile currently supports, yet somehow it's the death knell for Bluetooth, purely because it's technically superior. Does this strike anyone as a pointless product?

    Betamax was better then VHS, but it's even deader than my favourite OS. So I'm still going not going to hold my breath.

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    1. Re:Oh FFS, it's just spin.... by Unregistered · · Score: 1

      deader than my favourite OS

      UnixWare?

    2. Re:Oh FFS, it's just spin.... by wy1d · · Score: 0

      selling a "cordless cell phone headsets" which no mobile currently supports

      The technology of the 2.5mm plug is just so far off, isn't it?
      "the base that attaches to your phone through a universal 2.5 mm headset jack"

  47. Answers. by mindstrm · · Score: 3, Informative

    1 - They complement each other, yes, and they are intimately interrelated.. but they are not the same thing (for practical purposes). If you have a bar magnet in front of you, is their an electric field around it? no, there isn't.

    2 - A cruise of the whitepapers indicates that the magnetic field strength is related to distance via 1/d^6, as opposed to radiated power, where it's relatd to 1/d^2. This means a much sharper dropoff in power... meaning the point beyond which there is a negligible power level is much sharper.

    3 - A magnetic field and RF radiation are not the same thing.. one transmits energy over distance (RF).. the other puts that energy into sustaining a field (Magnetic)

    4 - What you are saying about frequencies applies to RF. This is not about RF. The mention of a high frequency, relatively unused ISM band probably refers to the EM side effects of the devices. (a 10Ghz oscillator, even if it's used via induction, sitll creates a 10Ghz EM signal)

    5 - "Used by Industrial, Scientific, and Medical" as they said in the article, is most likely just the reporter trying to sound smart.. but that's usually abbreviated as "ISM", and covers the fun 900Mhz and 2.4Ghz bands we already love and know, as well as others....

    6 - interference is not an issue for practical purposes because this thing has a high field strength within the bubble, and virtually none outside. Any inteferer would have to be really strong, or really close.

    1. Re:Answers. by pseudonymouse · · Score: 4, Informative
      1 - They complement each other, yes, and they are intimately interrelated.. but they are not the same thing (for practical purposes). If you have a bar magnet in front of you, is their an electric field around it? no, there isn't.

      There is no electrical field associated with a static magnetic field. Any change of position or intensity of the magnetic field will result in an electrical field and an electromagnetic wave (wavelength dependent upon rate of change). Any transmission of information implies changing the field in some way.

      2 - A cruise of the whitepapers indicates that the magnetic field strength is related to distance via 1/d^6, as opposed to radiated power, where it's relatd to 1/d^2. This means a much sharper dropoff in power... meaning the point beyond which there is a negligible power level is much sharper.

      1/d^6 is sharp drop, and I'm wondering what they're doing. 'Magnets' doesn't explain it. A magnet does inherently have a dipole field (which has a sharper dropoff than inverse-square drop of a monopole field), but 1/d^6 sounds like a higher order field than that, which is interesting. I assume from the article that they've been using magnetic inductors rather than electrical conductors to construct and detect this particular electromagnetic field, which is also interesting.

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    2. Re:Answers. by glenebob · · Score: 1
      "4 - What you are saying about frequencies applies to RF. This is not about RF. The mention of a high frequency, relatively unused ISM band probably refers to the EM side effects of the devices. (a 10Ghz oscillator, even if it's used via induction, sitll creates a 10Ghz EM signal)"
      That's the one that's hanging me up. Wouldn't it then be possible to evesdrop on any communication from a good distance away by using conventional radio equipment?

      The stated point of this technology seems to be low power consumption and security (because of the very short range). Point number two is nulled by EM radiation, and point one can't be that hard to achieve with ordinary radio technology... can it?

    3. Re:Answers. by ron_ivi · · Score: 1
      Looks like dipoles drop off at 1/r^5:

      http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/MagneticDi pole.html

      Quadrapoles drop off even faster.

      Put a couple magnets like this:
      N----S
      S----N
      and you won't see much magnetic field at any big distances.

      That's why refrigerator magnets feel funny too, and they're only strong for a few millimeters. That makes them safe on computer cases toNO CARRIER...

  48. Nathan B. Stubblefield Wireless Telephone 1892 by LouisvilleDebugger · · Score: 1

    No one else has touched on this precursor to radio, but the above post is so close (since it mentions the only remaining application of the technology) that I thought I'd give a reference to Nathan B. Stubblefield, from my Dad's hometown of Murray, Kentucky, credited with wireless transmission of a voice in 1892: his system used magnetic induction at voice frequency instead of a modulated carrier.

    http://www.nathanstubblefield.com/

  49. Wacom by NumLk · · Score: 1

    Don't knock this too hard... it has been used in the past. Back in college when I designed web pages I used to use a Wacom tablet, which for those of you that have never used one, is a large tablet that lets you control the mouse with a pen. The pens had magnets built into them, and the tablet sensed the position, orientation, and button presses by a change in the magnetic field. The biggest advantage of this was a pen that was lightweight and didn't need either a cord or batteries to operate.

    Unfortunately (or possibly, by design), the pens only functioned up to about 1 inch above the surface of the tablet, however considering how well it functioned, it would not surprise me if this technology could be improved to the point where accurate communication could take place over several feet, i.e. Bluetooth range.

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  50. RTF pdf by glassesmonkey · · Score: 1
    What's up with all these /.ers yelling 'Shenangians'??!!

    Did *no* one read the pdf entitled Near Field Magnetic Communtication Properties??
    It is a quasi-static magnetic field (READ: electro-magnet creates magnetic field with small variation in magnetic field with most of that 'variation' energy around the 24MHz ISM band)
    The idea has two-fold benefit over using RF-coupling..

    The energy falls off as 1/R^6 instead of what they claim is RF's 1/R^2 (I could have sworn my Emag classes said RF signals die as 1/R^3)

    The majority of the coupled energy is used for a static field and the signal uses very little energy. This is better than RF in the sense that the EM energy is proportional to the freq, and RF uses HIGH freq RF for the transmission/ coupling benefits of using high-freq RF but the signal is a low(er) freq signal riding withing the RF energy.

    Interesting that you need coil loop orientation diversity rather than RF's antenna diversity (in space).

    What interests me is how this can be used for low-power sensing applications (like RFID tags) (BTW I'm claiming the first use of MIID tag for magnetic induction)

  51. Physics Lesson 110... by alchemist68 · · Score: 1

    If I recall correctly from my Calculus-based Physics 110 course, an electric field cannot exist without a magnetic field which is why we call them ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELDS.

    1. Re:Physics Lesson 110... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Electric fields can exist without magnetic fields, and magnetic fields can exist without electric fields. They don't have to exist together.

      However, a changing magnetic field generates an electric field, and vice versa.

    2. Re:Physics Lesson 110... by Patrik_AKA_RedX · · Score: 1

      And how often do you replace the batteries in your refigerator magnets?

    3. Re:Physics Lesson 110... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      "If I recall correctly from my Calculus-based Physics 110 course, an electric field cannot exist without a magnetic field which is why we call them ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELDS."


      Physics 110 E&M? UCSB? If so I won't hold this against you, but you are (kind of) wrong. I suggest you review Griffiths (or any other standard E&M text).

      TecknoHog already covered this, but I feel I should elaborate a bit. While it is true that Electricity and Magnetism are related (by a Lorenz Transformation) and wireless signal transmission usually uses E&M waves, which have an electric field component and a magnetic component, they do not always have to be together.

      A static charge distribution only produces an electric field (E field). Since there are no magnetic monopoles, magnetic fields (B field) are always produced by moving charges, so there usually is an electric field doing this. However, consider a wire with constant current, were there is only an E field in the wire. Outside the wire there is a B field but no E field.

      Magnetic induction is a result of Faraday's law curl{E}=-dB/dt. In words, "A changng magnetic field induces an electric field" (Griffiths, 302). Electromagnetic waves only come after considering Maxwell's addition to E&M, which came later. When dealing with magnetic induction problems, it is usually valid to use the "quasistatic approximation", where one uses the laws of magnetostatics to calculate the B field even though the B field isn't static. This works very well (see Griffiths 429, prob. 10.12). This allows one to deal with things like two circuits coupled by their mutual inductance without dealing with electromagnetic waves. And I think this is what this technology is supposed to use, though I could be wrong. This wasn't a very well written article and had me confused a little at first.

  52. GMSK-Modulated Magnetic Link by utexaspunk · · Score: 1

    everyone here is making stupid jokes because they don't understand what the product is. i was skeptical at first, but i looked around at some of the documents on the site and did some googling and found this is actually kind of interesting.

    here is a relevant article that explains the technology a little better.

  53. Lawsuits? by Angram · · Score: 1

    If someone is using one of these and it knocks out your laptop, etc., who do you sue? The manufacturer for producing a damaging product, or the user, who probably didn't know any better?

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  54. Wow, that totaly dosn't make sense by autopr0n · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Now, I'm no physicist, but I was under the impression that all radio waves were based on electromagnetic induction. So this article doesn't really make sense at all.

    Now, I know there are some devices that use magnetic induction to 'charge' and then blast out information, like RFID. But the key here is the RF -- radio frequency (ID = identification, of course).

    So it would make some sense if these guys said they wanted to carry power using Magnetic induction, rather then using power cables or batteries, but it doesn't make sense for them to say they want to replace 'blue tooth' with it, because blue tooth and all radios use Magnetic induction to communicate...

    My guess, yet another reporter with absolutely no idea wft they're talking about.

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  55. Good GOD, man! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I really hope you're just trying to be funny and doing a poor job of it, but in case you're serious...

    I keep waiting for a gas pump that "recognizes" my gasoline credit card device and waits for me to "fill it up."

    Uh, hate to break it to you, but those have been around since the mid to late 90's, when Mobil introduced the SpeedPass. I've had one since long before I ever heard of Bluetooth. Now they are used at Exxon and Mobil stations all over the place. I think McDonald's even did testing a while back in California, IIRC, where people could pay for their drive-thru purchases via SpeedPass-- dunno if that's going to go national. When they launched it, it came in two varieties-- a small cylinder for your keyring that must be waved in front of a spot on the pump, and a transponder meant to be stuck inside your car's window that is "read" by an overhanging antenna when the car first pulls up to the pump (sort of like the E-Z Pass system some states have for toll roads). I think the stick-on transponder SpeedPass has been phased out, because I see no reference to it on the website.

    Have a hard time getting a paper receipt, though. Keep getting a message saying "Your receipt is inside."

    Where I live, gas pumps have been accepting credit cards right at the pump for at least 10 years, and have been printing their own receipts right at the pump as well. My SpeedPass account is even configured to assume I want a receipt when I gas up, so the pump just spits one out without asking when I'm done filling my tank.

    I won't even tell you what I can do with my Macs running OS X and my Bluetooth phone, it may make your head explode. No flying cars yet, though.

    I suggest you move to a state where people aren't too busy dating their relatives to embrace technological advances. By the way, the North won.

    1. Re:Good GOD, man! by dopamine · · Score: 1

      So what ARE you doing with your Bluetooth phone and OSX?

  56. Range? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Magnetic fields also create waves, but the waves form a kind of bubble, which stops growing after four feet


    So if you are using a headset on your cell phone with one of these gizmos and you step away from your desk you lose your call? No sale. I'll keep Bluetooth and it's 10 meter range.

  57. Magnetic induction is not all that short range. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 2, Informative

    Correct me if i'm wrong but dont most Radio transmission technologies use some form of magnetic induction in order to achieve their goal. Last i heard passing electricity through a coil produces a magnetic field. Whats new here?

    What's new is that they've goofed.

    At any given frequency you can launch an electromagnetic wave by using:
    - And electric dipole. (Essentially impossible at anything above DC due to the current from the moving charges.)
    - A permanent magnet or a current loop (producing a virtual magnetic dipole).
    - A combination of the two, to produce the electric and magnetic fields simultaneously.

    With a current loop the field very near the loop is essentially pure magnetic and falls off as the first power of distance (as more of the wire's length becomes signficant to the observer).

    Moving out a bit more, in the first two the field moderately NEAR the antenna is essentially pure electric or magnetic (respectively) and falls off as a dipole field - with the cube of the distance. (Inverse square for each "pole" of the dipole, times inverse first-power for the smaller angular separation of the poles as viewed by the distant observer.) In the third you get the same effect with both the electric and magnetic field, typical of ordinary antennas.

    But the changes to the electric field produce a magnetic field, and vice-versa. By the time you're a wavelength or so away from a simple driven element an electromagnetic field - a "radio wave" - has peeled off. This weakens at inverse-square rate (once you're far enough from the emitter that local additions and cancelations from different parts of it don't confound the issue.)

    For signals in the tens of kilohertz and less (audio, for instance), a wavelength is very long. So a coil acts like more like a dipole than an antenna for a long way. Inverse-cube attenuates the signal rapidly with distance (though a strong amplifier can pull it back up - along with any competing noise).

    But for computers you'll probably want this to operate at high speed - for images, disk access, etc. Now you're talking megahertz - with coding schemes that end up putting essentially all the informaiton at high frequencies. So the radio-wave effect takes over quickly, and the signal propagates without serious attenuation, regardless of whether the emitter is a magnetic loop (B-field) or electric dipole (E-field) emitter.

    The guys operating the TEMPEST equipment will LOVE this system, thanks to the unjustified feeling of security it will give the user.

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    1. Re:Magnetic induction is not all that short range. by deglr6328 · · Score: 1

      It loos like we said the same thing a few minutes away from eachoter. :) I did not know that dipole fields drop off with the cube of the distance until just now and still don't really fully understand it. do you know of a good site that explains this sort of thing? does anything fall off with the 1/r^4 of the distance for example?

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    2. Re:Magnetic induction is not all that short range. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 2, Informative

      It loos like we said the same thing a few minutes away from eachoter. :)

      Yep.

      I did not know that dipole fields drop off with the cube of the distance until just now and still don't really fully understand it.

      - Inverse square because the area the wave is spread out across is increasing with the square of the distance from the emitter, times:
      - Inverse first power because as you get farther away from the dipole (a + and a - pole near each other) the two opposite electric charges or magnetic poles appear closer together and cancel better.

      Multiply the two effects and you get inverse cube.

      Similarly, an infinite line source only falls off with inverse FIRST power because it's effectively only spreading out in one dimension, like an expanding cylinder. The weakening of radiaton from any point due to spreading along the axis dimension is canceled by the increasing significance of the contribution from point emitters located farther along the line source. VERY close to the conductor of an antenna element you get this effect, because the nearby region is a close approximation to a line source.

      do you know of a good site that explains this sort of thing?

      Sorry. I'm recalling this from college physics.

      does anything fall off with the 1/r^4 of the distance for example?

      Yes: Quadrapole moment. Imagine a square with + in the upper-right and lower-left corners, - in the upper-left and lower-right. Electric field direction is an X shape, with one crossbar having arrowheads and the other arrowtails, and it falls off with inverse-fourth-power, i.e. very, very fast. It's like the extra inverse-linear factor in dipole moment, except you have that twice: Once for the dimension of each pair of charges as a dipole, again for the other dimension as the angular separation of the dipoles also shrinks with distance.

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    3. Re:Magnetic induction is not all that short range. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Their papers claim that they roll off at 1/r^6.

  58. This is a plot by popo · · Score: 1


    Methinks this is viscious plot hatched by the optical media industry to bury the magnetic media industry once and for all.

    In the meantime don't keep your PDA anywhere near your credit cards...

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  59. Nuts & Volts June 2003 by Nullsmack · · Score: 3, Informative

    N&V covered this in the June 2003 issue along with RFID and UWB. Page 22 for those who can get access to a backissue (say at the library or somewhere like that)

    One problem (that's easily fixed) with the magnetic system is that both transmitting and receiving coils have to be parallel. If they're at 90 degrees little or no signal gets through. The fix for it happens to be using 3 coils, each one 90 degrees from each other on the receiver. The transmitter only needs one, but no matter how that one is oriented one of the 3 coils in the receiver can pick it up. I haven't heard of any other chips, but the LibertyLink chip from Aura Communications can automatically select the coils on it's own.

    Very short range, but it works for something like a wireless headset where range doesn't matter anyways.

  60. Security by t_allardyce · · Score: 1

    Hopefully, manufacturers will race to put this in their products and wont bother securing links with pesky things like "encryption" because the "bubble" provides security.. then i can have my fun intercepting stuff by standing behind people ;)

    But if done properly this could be useful - you could control your phone, notebook, or mp3 player using your watch or some sort of mini-handheld touchscreen, rocking

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  61. Interference? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does this mean I get the day off when there are severe solar flares?

  62. Ranges Bluetooth vs. MI by keirnoff · · Score: 1

    Isn't the range of Bluetoth like 25". This 4" has so few uses it is mindnumbing. I can overcome the 4" holding the 2 objects in my hands. They should just keep selling to the DoD.

    1. Re:Ranges Bluetooth vs. MI by psyconaut · · Score: 1

      Bluetooth is ~30m, this technology is ~4' (feet)...not 4" (inches).

      How many times have you seen Bluetooth devices used more than a few feet from the base? I've *never* actually seen anyone doing that in the "real world". Mostly it's people with Bluetooth phone headsets and the phone next to them on the table, on the dash of the car, or strapped to their waist. Ditto for wireless mice and keyboards that use Bluetooth.

      -psy

    2. Re:Ranges Bluetooth vs. MI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's why you have a repeater/hub/switch attached to your chest.

      Creating a PAN, but since this PAN is wireless we'll get WPAN, and then we'll really need IPv6....
      Or we could NAT ourselves from ourselves, and segment me from you....

    3. Re:Ranges Bluetooth vs. MI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Read it again, it's 4 to 5 FEET which accounts for 80% of what cell users, MP3 players would use.

  63. Goddammit, that's not what he said by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you jackasses. Al Gore claimed responisibility for ARPANET becoming the internet because it was a bill he backed in Congress. Get it? It was a perfectly reasonable claim. And that joke is an entirely too old repetition of Republican propaganda making him out to be a liar. Despite the fact that all the things they claimed he lied about were true!

  64. Magnetic fields? by Guppy06 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Dear God! I don't think the aluminum foil in my deflector beanie is thick enough to handle all that! Quick, get me some sheet metal!

    1. Re:Magnetic fields? by TPFH · · Score: 1

      Dear God! I don't think the aluminum foil in my deflector beanie is thick enough to handle all that! Quick, get me some sheet metal!

      Sheet metal for hats?
      That's silly.
      Sheet metal is for Music!

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  65. Uhm... magnets + electronics = ? by Tidal+Flame · · Score: 1

    "I'll just plug in my new magnetic WLAN card and... oh shit, now my laptop doesn't work. Dammit."

  66. 13.xMHz RF, 204.8 kilobits/sec, audio by billstewart · · Score: 1
    It's currently designed for audio niche markets, because the interesting use of Bluetooth is cordless headsets, and that's where they chosen to add value to their system, but if you read Aura's web site long enough to find the chip specs, you'll see that it's getting a 204.8kbps data rate on the 13.xMHz ISM band, and using this with CVSD modulation to carry audio.

    So no, this isn't Firewire, or quite even Bluetooth - it's Almost Appletalk, but very low power cordless. However, unlike Bluetooth with works with 2.4GHz radio, this is working down at 13MHz where there's not much interference. I'm not convinced about its security claims, except that they can apparently do some modulation things to keep nearby sets of equipment from interfering, and the range is short enough that there's not much risk of it.

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  67. Security claim is bogus, IMHO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Even if the magnetic feild falls off like 1/r^6, that doesn't mean you can't "hear" what's going on inside the field from farther away.

    As the field modulates it will, generate electromagnetic radiation. And while the Aura recievers won't pick up anything outside the feild. A good RF reciever operating at the same frequecies could easily pick up the signal from the "bubble".

    Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm not quite sure what kind of amplitude the EM radiation would have. I think it would be pretty substantial, but I could be wrong.

    1. Re:Security claim is bogus, IMHO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hm....Bluetooth radiates 1milliwatt or more of power, these guys are 5000 times less output power than that. 2.4Ghz has a 90% absorbsion rate into the body......seems to me that they might have something here. I'd love to have a wireless MP3 player that I could use while jogging using this technology....might deliever the great audio quality Bluetooth and others have promised for many years now!

  68. 13MHz, 1.25 m, 204kbps, Nyquist vs. Shannon by billstewart · · Score: 2, Informative
    You're right - it's 13.56MHz, which is a wavelength of about 2.5 meters, and they're claiming a range of 1.25 meters, which is .5 wavelengths (as opposed to pi*.5 wavelengths), so that's in range.

    The data rate is 204.8 kilobits/sec - I can't tell if that's bidirectional or shared unidirectional like Ethernet? However, you're wrong about your use of Nyquist's formula - that tells you that your pulse sampling rate has to be twice the frequency of a continuous wavelength you're trying to send (so your data rate needs to be N*2 samples/sec for a N Hz audio signal). This is the other side - Shannon's formula is that if you want to carry a given bit rate using an analog signal, the bit rate you can get is (IIRC)
    Bandwidth * log (1+Signal/Noise)
    which means that if your signal/noise ratio is arbitrarily good, you can get an arbitrarily high data rate

    The place that Nyquist bites them is that with only a 204.8 kbps data rate, it limits their audio capabilities. They're actually using 64kbps CVSD for their audio, which is kind of an odd choice of codecs - maybe they're sampling at a higher rate than telephony, or maybe they're figuring it will do less or different damage to the signal than the GSM or G.723 codecs used by the phone? In either case, CVSD is a simple codec that doesn't need much CPU horsepower, and a little better than ADPCM at that speed.

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  69. Bad choice of words. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Magnetic induction differs from Bluetooth and just about every other wireless technique now available, most of which use what's known as radio frequency, or RF, signals--bursts of electrical energy that waft out like ripples in a pond until they reach an antenna.

    Why is it a wafting signal? Why not a propogat[ing/ed] signal?

    Magnetic fields also create waves, but the waves form a kind of bubble, which stops growing after four feet, making them more secure than waves wafting endlessly in every direction, Cui said.


    Hot damn! Wafting again! Wafting without permission from the FCC! The editor who wrote this must be remeniscing his co-worker or himself after a bad lunch? I know beans are the leading cause of wafting.

  70. EM waves = EM waves by Tuxinatorium · · Score: 1

    What's the difference between this and other forms of EM transmission?

  71. It's just a transformer guys by NewtonsLaw · · Score: 2, Informative

    Perhaps the easiest way to explain this technology is that it's simply a type of transformer.

    One coil creates a varying magnetic flux that induces a current in a matching coil -- and thus an electrical signal is passed through the ether.

    Those who claim that it's no different to a radio link are almost right -- the only real difference is that with such a system there's no need to use a carrier wave (RF) -- the information can be dumped (raw) into the transmitting side of the coil and received by the other coil.

    There's no rocket science here -- all that's happened is that some crowd has figured out that by using three coils instead of one, they can effectively adjust the direction of the strongest flux lobe to give the maximum transfer of energy.

    Of course, the marketing droids would never simplify things by simply telling us it was a "clever transformer" because then they couldn't charge so much for it eh? :-)

  72. Magnets for communications by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I attended DemoMobile and talked with these guys one on one. Their product is real and works pretty well. I also own a Bluetooth unit that I paid over $150 for and while they both provide communications to my cell phone, these guys give over 25 hours of use. I'm always looking for a charger with my Bluetooth unit and if sales guy would have told me before I bought it that I'd realistically only get an hour or so of use, I wouldn't have bothered. As the say, " the proof is in the pudding," and these magnetic guys have something that meets my taste buds!!! I've also gone through their web site. They use near field communications and claim that they suppress the electrical field and use the magnetic field for the communications. That would explain the short distance. But at .2 microwatts output power, that's good enough for me. I don't need to walk 30 feet away from my cell phone. Also, I can't use my Bluetooth unit near my 2.4Ghz phone or my 802.11 network. This new headset can be used with all of that. They were offering a show price of $49 and that's a no brainer for me....especially after trying the unit out!

  73. Stupid. by SinaSa · · Score: 1

    Arnt magnetic fields meant to have severe effects on the way your brain works? Those healing magnets are meant to be very specifically designed, etc to be healing magnets. Something like this could easily trigger a whole bunch of non healing emotions. Who wants to see the wallstreet business man (already on the edge) even more stressed out because of his new phone+headset.

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    1. Re:Stupid. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And 2.4GHZ microwave frequencies (with 90% absorbsion rate into the body) is better?? At least these guys are about 5000 time less power than Bluetooth!

  74. Don't miss the stat sheet for their actual asic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.auracomm.com/Downloads/llcondenseddatas heet.pdf

    64 kbps CVSD decoding

    64 kbps is plenty for voice and input devices. Added to the lack of interference with wifi and you've got me sold.

  75. Welcome to the daily life of a Rebublican by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So how is that different from practically every word a republican makes being taken out of context and similarily ridiculed? I'm sure YOU of course, haeve never uttered an ill word against them. But there are others that do so.

    If Al Gore can joke about it, then you should as well.

  76. One small correction by StandardCell · · Score: 1

    You CAN have a static magnetic or electric field without the presence of the other. Case in point - motors and generators. A generator will not generate electricity (and a corresponding electric field) unless the wires are moving relative to the magnetic core. Even motors with brush magnets are simply magnets until you apply current to the motor coils. Until then, the motors/generator are at best regular magnets, and most large motors don't use magnets but metal cores with proper magnetic permeability.

    Only a changing electric field produces a changing magnetic field, which produces a changing electric field, and so on.

    1. Re:One small correction by v1 · · Score: 1

      Static yes. But you can't transmit data or even have a carrier wave with a static field. Modulation is required to transmit data. There's going to have to be an electrical field around this thing, there's simply no way around the laws of physics.

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  77. Magnetic field near your head? by PoisonousPhat · · Score: 1

    Someone care to comment on the possible health effects of having a headset that creates a magnetic field next to your head? When people are concerned about having a cellphone's radiation near their head for a few minutes to perhaps an hour or so a day, I'm sure there is more of a concern with a headset that might be worn for several hours a day. Is the field strong enough to cause health problems?

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    1. Re:Magnetic field near your head? by KillerBob · · Score: 1

      Doubt it would be anywhere near as risky as a cell phone. First, you're not running anywhere near the same power requirements, second, magnetic fields are not radiation (they aren't measured by frequency, but rather by intensity, /wave Tesla), and third, your body is already accustomed to magnetic fields: you exist 24/7/365 in one that's a whole lot of decimal places stronger than the one this device proposes to use.

      The risk with cell phones isn't so much the fact that you're exposing yourself to radiation as the fact that you're exposing yourself to radiation your body hasn't evolved to handle. If they operated on frequencies that you get bombarded with every day, either visible light, or infra-red, then they'd be far less dangerous than they are. They'd also be far more susceptible to interference, and have a much shorter range.

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  78. What the Near Field is by egork · · Score: 1

    Well, while I could not find a "near-field for dummies" link anywhere, let me explain it to you myself.

    Far-field and Near-field are just two simplified formulas, describing one electromagnetic field in different regions. But as we can use what we can describe, these notions are now routinely refered to as objects.

    Basically the term comes from the approach to a problem of a wave propagation equation with constraints (e.g. difraction on a piston for Maxwell equation, but not limited to). Often the solution is much easier to formulate if one wants to know the field properties quite far from the source. Quite far means more than couple of wavelenghs. For most practical cases it holds true. (e.g. broadcasting radiowaves). This is "far-field".

    But what happens in the immediate vicinity of the source? There is analytical solution as well, and it is called "near-field". It dissapears very quickly with the distance from the source, that is why we do not have to take it into account while dealing with "common" far-field waves.

    Recently there were found application of this field in Microscopy, and it seems Data Transmission is following. The whole thing about this field is that it does not propagate far, so the energy is contained in a limited volume. In Microscopy one can get better resolution. For the data transfer it means that field density in that volume is relatively higher compared to the "far-field" mode of radiation.

    But once again, this are mathematical objects to describe (electromagnetical) field. These objects came into existance because of the particular structure of the field equation.

    1. Re:What the Near Field is by bar-agent · · Score: 1

      Okay. But what is it about the near field that makes it drop off so quickly? It's all e-m waves, right? So it seems that it ought to drop off using the inverse-square law. That's what I don't get.

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    2. Re:What the Near Field is by dtmos · · Score: 1

      I could throw a pile of math at you, but the basic idea is that an accellerating charge (i.e., a changing current, a.k.a. alternating current or a.c.) along a loop of wire produces:

      -- magnetic fields in the radial direction that weaken as (1/r^2) and (1/r^3), where r is the distance from the source;

      -- magnetic fields perpendicular to the radial direction that weaken as (1/r), (1/r^2) and (1/r^3), and

      -- electric fields perpendicular to both of these that weaken as (1/r) and (1/r^2).

      It turns out that the electric and magnetic (1/r) terms can form a propagating wave that moves radially away from the source. This is the "radiating" wave with which we're all familiar. The power in the wave is the product of the electric and magnetic field strength (the electromagnetic equivalent to the Power == Voltage * Current equation in circuit theory), so the power falls off as (1/r)*(1/r) = (1/r^2), the inverse-square law.

      What you don't hear about often is what happens to those other terms--the (1/r^2) and (1/r^3) terms. They fade away quickly with distance, so once you're a wavelength away or so they're hard to detect. If you're close to the antenna (in terms of wavelengths), however, they can be very strong. Usually this is a problem, because lossy materials near an antenna can dissipate power in these modes that would otherwise radiate in the usually desired (1/r) mode (see [1] for a longer discussion). Aura, however, is using the (1/r^3) magnetic field mode, and turning the range liability into assets--increased privacy, and physically close reuse without interference. The main problem I expect they had to overcome was the difficulty in generating a strong enough field from an integrated product--the usual way requires a very large coil of wire.

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    3. Re:What the Near Field is by bar-agent · · Score: 1

      They never taught this stuff in high school, or even undergrad physics. So much for my "education". (-1 Bitter)

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  79. Maybe they meant 'dipole field' by jrifkin · · Score: 1

    My electrodynamics is *very* rusty, but perhaps whey they mean by a 'bubble' is that the field (which AFAIK is electro-magnetic, despite what the product hype says) is not your usual electric field which falls off as 1/r^2, but perhaps a dipole or quadrapole field which falls off as 1/r^3 or 1/r^4. And there are higher order fields which drop of even more quickly.

    In brief here are examples of the different kinds of fields.

    • Monopole - a single positive charge at the origin.
    • Dipole - 1 pos charge at x=1, 1 neg charge at x=-1.
    • Quadrapole - 1 pos charge each at (x,y)=(1,1),(-1,-1), 1 neg charge each at (x,y)=(1,-1),(-1,1)
    • ?pole - 1 pos charge each at (x,y,z)=(1,1,1),(1,-1,-1),(-1,1,-1),(-1,-1,1) and 1 neg charge each at the others.
    • even higher pole - you can do these also, but the examples are not as simple. I can't look it up now because the mrs. is sleeping.
    1. Re:Maybe they meant 'dipole field' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They say it drops off at 1/r^6

  80. Magnetic effects. by arth1 · · Score: 1

    Think about what kind of effects this could have on devices much more sensitive to magnetism. Like in a plane:

    "This is your captain speaking. As you can see on the aisle TV screen, we're currently flying through a purple and green blob, and according to our compass we're spinning at approximately 90 revolutions per second."

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