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New Anti-Swap CDs Hit Shelves

floppy ears writes "Watch out for the new Anthony Hamilton CD, Coming From Where I'm From. The CD has two sets of tracks: one set of "encrypted" songs that can be handled by CD players but cannot be ripped, and a duplicate set of tracks in WMA format. In CD players, the disc plays normally (in theory). When put into a computer, the disc installs software to keep the music secure, but allows you to copy some or all of the Windows Media tracks to your hard drive. What a shame that I'm running Linux and my portable MP3 player doesn't support WMA."

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  1. Hmph... by bhtooefr · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The last time someone made an copy protection scheme for "CDs", didn't it only affect the first track on Linux? And even that could be gotten around? It's really simple - just rip everything but track 1 using CDParanoia.

    1. Re:Hmph... by faldore · · Score: 5, Interesting

      No doubt the software on the CD is written for Windows, so Linux will be unaffected - to Linux the CD will look like a mixed mode CD and it will be simple to rip the audio tracks. The only thing stopping Windows users from doing it is the little .exe that is started by the autorun "feature".

    2. Re:Hmph... by Threni · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Well, the headline says its a "CD" but if it doesn't play in a regular CD player it's not CD as far as the Red Book standard is concerned. Last I heard, Philips were pretty pissed about their standard being abused without clear warnings on the box. The article doesn't make this clear (no surprise, really).

      So...is this a CD?

    3. Re:Hmph... by hajejan · · Score: 4, Interesting

      And regardless of everything, you could always play the music on a high-quality CD player, optically record it on MD and encode it from the MD, or even copy it straight to another CD in audio-mode, and rip the CD. I guess we'll just have to wait untill the music industry realises this, and gives it up.

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  2. WHen will they learn by junklight · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If it was easier to buy mp3's than rip them off (searching p2p's or whatever) and if you could get all the benefits of pirate mp3's - listen anywhere, have a copy at home and on my portable player etc. then people would give them money.

    Instead - the music industry makes expensive stuff thats increasingly inconvienient and wonders why people are going elsewhere for their music. Oh and they don't pay the artists properly either - just in case we weren't pissed at them enough.

    the mind boggles....

    1. Re:WHen will they learn by falltime · · Score: 3, Interesting

      What the music industry doesnt get is they dont sell music they sell CONVENIENCE. People dont need an industry for music - before there was an industry people learned to play instruments! Then someone figured out it was easier to get a machine to play consistently then a man - so they invented player pianos (and an industry was born); then Edison invented records because it was easier to lug a record player than a piano (or an ochestra), 45's b/c some people only wanted one song, 8-track b/c records dont play in a car, cassette, b/c 8 track sucked, CD's for all the above reason plus fidelity AND THEN NOTHING... b/c the music industry forgot that we dont need them for music we need them for convienience

  3. Great idea... by aznxk3vi17 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Yet another way to get WMA spread across our computers. Can't they classify this automatic installation of software as a worm? What if we don't want to compromise our computers with this? Then we could claim they are discriminating against us against infecting our own computers.

  4. Not a CD by yamla · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If you buy this and the place you buy it from specifies or implies that it is a CD, return it. They are required by law (at least in Canada and in the U.S.) to accept it for a full refund.

    My brother just bought David Usher's latest album. It played in the car but not in his laptop and that's where he spends most of his time listening to music. Note that his laptop met all the requirements listed on the back cover, it just wouldn't play... no CD audio, no WMA, nothing. And of course, it would prevent him from transferring the music to an iPod if it would play only WMA. He took the thing back to Music World. We wrote complaints to EMI Music, Music World, and David Usher's management company saying he didn't appreciate being assumed to be a music pirate, he didn't appreciate misleading notifications on the album cover (stating that it would work in his computer), and that he did not appreciate having his Fair Use rights curtailed.

    There was no response, of course, despite claims by at least one company that they would respond within x business days.

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    1. Re:Not a CD by cnock · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The same thing happenned to me with Morrissey's recent Under The Influence compilation. I sent a kind email to the folks at the record company (DMC), and within a day, they sent an apology, and a request for my home address. Within two weeks, I had a non-restricted copy of the same cd that actually plays in my PC's cd-rom drive. They also admitted regret to pressing the restricted cds in the first place. An example of a record company understanding the downside of this "technology".

    2. Re:Not a CD by MKalus · · Score: 4, Interesting
      There was no response, of course, despite claims by at least one company that they would respond within x business days.


      David Ushers Managment was a lot quicker to reply (to me at least).
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  5. Why... why... why? by BMonger · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I just don't get it... I have a Mac here at home and with multi-session CD's it mounts both sessions as different CD's on the desktop... when I bring the same CD to work and try to play it on my Windows 2000 box it asks if I want to install all kinds of junk to play the CD. I can't listen to the CD with WinAmp at all like I can with any other normal CD...

    So I have to download it (usually via IRC) and store a copy on my computer at work just so I can conveniently listen to a CD I bought... I wonder how much this brings up the RIAA's numbers of illegally downloaded songs... for instance if I didn't know all that much about computers and I was downloading songs I legitimately should be able to make MP3's out of and now Kazaa downloads them into a shared folder... well now the RIAA has 10-15 tracks more that they can claim are being widespread because I just wanted to listen to music I had given them money for.

  6. OS X mounts both images by Dugsmyname · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Drop the CD in your OS X machine, and rip the "Audio CD" mounted image... Just ignore the other one.... Tested and confirmed.

  7. An even easier solution by pla · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Its just a shame that all this technology will be beaten by simply swapping the sessions

    I've posted this before, and no doubt I'll post it again...

    Rip your CDs to an ISO with CDRWin or BlindRead, with C2 error correction disabled (but leave jitter correction turned on). Then mount the disk image via Daemon Tools or the like, and use any normal CD audio ripper (in its fastest mode, since no errors or jitter can occur this way) such as CDex to extract the audio tracks from the virtual drive.

    Works on every "defective" CD on the market, gives a perfect rip every time (for which reason I even use this method to rip non-defective CDs), and in many cases, it even takes less total time than using the CD audio ripper (assuming a non-defective CD) directly on the physical CD.

    You'll only have a problem if your drive doesn't support turning off C2 correction, in which case, spring the fifty bucks to get a cheap older Plextor drive from Blindwrite's "supported drives" list.


    Disclaimer - I have never even heard of the artist mentioned in the FP, and haven't tried this method on that particular CD. As I said, though, I have yet to fail to rip a CD this way, and have little doubt it would work in this case as well (sounds like just another cheesy multi-session standards violation hack, with the added "bonus" of running a trojan on your machine if you have unwisely left autorun turned on).

  8. Turn of auto run! by Sovern · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I got a photo cd from my mother years ago. It installed Wal-Mart software that caused a system crash. The photo envelope had a small EULA that I did not read. It pays to hide in a small hole in your yard.

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  9. Re:A Patch exists by bankman · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I guess this is why I am a CS major and not a business one.

    Actually a business graduate would be shot (well, downgraded) if this were a case study and he were to suggest the current RIAA behaviour regarding file sharing as a solution to the problem in a decent business school with good teachers. For a number of reasons:

    Not an innovative solution to a disrupting problem set. Student was probably asleep during lecture on Christensen and Disruptive Technologies.

    Micro- and macroeconomic theory and issues (like economic downturn, deflationary tendencies in some important markets, simple demand and supply behaviour) as possibly playing a part in this situation are completely disregarded.

    Prolonged ignorance towards customers' demand.

    They are not adding value, rather subtracting, therefore ignoring a simple marketing rule: Don't piss off your customers.

    Because of excessive greed and ignorance towards their competitive environment they should eventually fail......hmmmm, well see.

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