Darl McBride also said "We counted over a million lines of code that we allege are infringed in the Linux kernel today" which strangely enough they still haven't shown to anyone.
I love the fact that Perl fans always mention regexes but never mention the fact that in a subroutine you have to unpack your own parameters with the really so blindingly obvious '@_' .
Now I don't know about you but most of the things I write in Python are pretty damn big and regexes are a very small part compared to say *all the functions*
So can I live with slightly more complex regex *syntax* in return for the rest of the language having a syntax I don't need to think about?
(and yes there are perl dudes who know this stuff inside out - but *why* would a newcomer scale these ridiculous barriers to entry?)
ok I agree that Neubauten is a more complex case because they also released an album through the usual channels. However their musterhaus project and stuff like that most certainly does not. I think my definition of 'mainstreamish' is 'other people who are not obsessed with music have heard of them'
To be honest I am not advocating a boycott (although I guess that is where the conversation started) but more to support the people who are out their finding their own path.
"The way to make real money as a band is to go through a record contract, fulfill all the obligations and come out the other side but very few bands manage this."
Indeed. However that happens to a *tiny* fraction of a percentage of all bands who try.
If you care about music then make music - if you are trying to get rich then by all means gamble with the RIAA and their friends. I can however think of other ways of getting rich that have a much greater chance of success.
The fact is though that the music industries days are numbered as it stands. It will *have* to find an alternative - you cannot support an industry by criminalizing your customers - it is *never* going to work. Well actually that is not entirely true. The government makes it work with 'tax'. However I can't see an arbitrary non government industry managing to do it.
So - what gives? I guess just like in the early days of radio and recorded music someone is going to have to find a new model. A new model to help people find music they like, a new model to pay musicians to make music. The upside is the cost of entry is going to be low - distribution is no longer an issue (even globally) , servers and bandwidth are pretty cheap. The downside is that the vast majority of your customers are used to paying *nothing* for music so they are going to need educating.
Is the music industry as it currently stands going to deliver this new model? - not in a million years.
no one is asking you to stop buying music - just no via the RIAA.
I buy pretty much everything direct now - from ultra obscure stuff like Richard Skeltons wonderful work: http://www.sustain-release.co.uk/ to mainstreamish things like Neubauten and (drum roll) Radiohead.
More bands should get with the program and opt out of the RIAA as well.
There is Music out there - the RIAA is not interested in music and it is not interested in its customers/victims
The thing is SCOX has a market cap of around $5m at present. So a hostile takeover would cost considerably less than $36m. So how is this good value fo r the equity company and its investors?
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Oh dear.
you are missing the point about so many things I am just tempted to say *Whooosh* and have done with it.
From your tone you sound like you think you are a good programmer and yet your opinions indicate that you have a real lack of experience.
If you are young and new to development - leave your current job. Tomorrow. and go into the world and get some more experience (this is assuming you want a career of some sort). If you are old and cynical stick with it and hope that there is enough work in whatever specfic thing you are good at until you retire.
While I don't disagree with you - this is *very* risky for Darl and co personally. If IBM or others can show that this whole law suit was just a troll then they are in deep shit (see below about the Lanham act). I wonder what they got out of this personally? it must be good to take such a risk.
"MS has promised to sue other companies. Ballmer said that anybody who uses linux from anybody except novell is under a threat of a patent lawsuit from MS."
Is there an example of an industry where this has worked as a strategy.
I can see that an MS/Linux type strategy stands a chance of winning - a linux with better interoperability for windows shops etc. and of course Microsoft will be making money whatever choice you make.
But suing customers? There have been some spectacular failures - SCO and the RIAA don't seem to be achieving much from it other than bad publicity.
So has anyone sued their potential customers (or a competitors customers) and made good?
There is a house in Steatham on the A11 in the UK that does its own ebaying - whenever I drive past they have a range of goods sitting by the side of the road with hand drawn price boards.
The road transport system = the new ebay. People could club together to sell things and you could call them -- Oh I don't know -- Markets or Shops....
This is exactly the point. I don't know about NZ but here in the UK government procurement is actually done on the basis that there needs to be an audit trail along which blame can be proportioned (and presumably someone sued if need be). Open source breaks that trail and public bodies find that *really* hard to get their heads around.
Everything in the public sector is goverened by rules designed to stop people taking risks (like having 'bright ideas' and trying to make things better). Everything is done according to rules - those rules where not designed with OS in mind.
don't worry you sue the people controlling the hurricane - along with all the places it DID run over because they weren't important or rich enough to have the hurricane deflected.
They are not really forcing them off the shelves - its simple economics - Dixons are totally mainstream and 35mm film has become non-mainstream. Therefore they aren't going to sell film cameras anymore.
Not really news - we all know digital camera's are mainstream now.
I work for another Establishment organisation and we and others are working on improving the situation. Having the BBC as a shining light really does help.
Indeed. In case you where wondering *why* they want to make a codec take a read of this:
http://eff.org/IP/BBC_CMSC_testimony.php
The Creative Archive is a really exciting venture and one of the projects that gives me small hope that the British Government may yet get the hang of copyright and online content
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>> I've never seen a standalone cheque guarantee card
I haven't seen one for years - but I had one back in the day
Assuming it is true.
Darl McBride also said "We counted over a million lines of code that we allege are infringed in the Linux kernel today" which strangely enough they still haven't shown to anyone.
I love the fact that Perl fans always mention regexes but never mention the fact that in a subroutine you have to unpack your own parameters with the really so blindingly obvious '@_' .
Now I don't know about you but most of the things I write in Python are pretty damn big and regexes are a very small part compared to say *all the functions*
So can I live with slightly more complex regex *syntax* in return for the rest of the language having a syntax I don't need to think about?
(and yes there are perl dudes who know this stuff inside out - but *why* would a newcomer scale these ridiculous barriers to entry?)
ok I agree that Neubauten is a more complex case because they also released an album through the usual channels. However their musterhaus project and stuff like that most certainly does not. I think my definition of 'mainstreamish' is 'other people who are not obsessed with music have heard of them'
To be honest I am not advocating a boycott (although I guess that is where the conversation started) but more to support the people who are out their finding their own path.
"The way to make real money as a band is to go through a record contract, fulfill all the obligations and come out the other side but very few bands manage this."
Indeed. However that happens to a *tiny* fraction of a percentage of all bands who try.
If you care about music then make music - if you are trying to get rich then by all means gamble with the RIAA and their friends. I can however think of other ways of getting rich that have a much greater chance of success.
The fact is though that the music industries days are numbered as it stands. It will *have* to find an alternative - you cannot support an industry by criminalizing your customers - it is *never* going to work. Well actually that is not entirely true. The government makes it work with 'tax'. However I can't see an arbitrary non government industry managing to do it.
So - what gives? I guess just like in the early days of radio and recorded music someone is going to have to find a new model. A new model to help people find music they like, a new model to pay musicians to make music. The upside is the cost of entry is going to be low - distribution is no longer an issue (even globally) , servers and bandwidth are pretty cheap. The downside is that the vast majority of your customers are used to paying *nothing* for music so they are going to need educating.
Is the music industry as it currently stands going to deliver this new model? - not in a million years.
no one is asking you to stop buying music - just no via the RIAA.
I buy pretty much everything direct now - from ultra obscure stuff like Richard Skeltons wonderful work: http://www.sustain-release.co.uk/ to mainstreamish things like Neubauten and (drum roll) Radiohead.
More bands should get with the program and opt out of the RIAA as well.
There is Music out there - the RIAA is not interested in music and it is not interested in its customers/victims
The thing is SCOX has a market cap of around $5m at present. So a hostile takeover would cost considerably less than $36m. So how is this good value fo r the equity company and its investors?
Oh dear.
you are missing the point about so many things I am just tempted to say *Whooosh* and have done with it.
From your tone you sound like you think you are a good programmer and yet your opinions indicate that you have a real lack of experience.
If you are young and new to development - leave your current job. Tomorrow. and go into the world and get some more experience (this is assuming you want a career of some sort). If you are old and cynical stick with it and hope that there is enough work in whatever specfic thing you are good at until you retire.
While I don't disagree with you - this is *very* risky for Darl and co personally. If IBM or others can show that this whole law suit was just a troll then they are in deep shit (see below about the Lanham act). I wonder what they got out of this personally? it must be good to take such a risk.
"MS has promised to sue other companies. Ballmer said that anybody who uses linux from anybody except novell is under a threat of a patent lawsuit from MS."
Is there an example of an industry where this has worked as a strategy.
I can see that an MS/Linux type strategy stands a chance of winning - a linux with better interoperability for windows shops etc. and of course Microsoft will be making money whatever choice you make.
But suing customers? There have been some spectacular failures - SCO and the RIAA don't seem to be achieving much from it other than bad publicity.
So has anyone sued their potential customers (or a competitors customers) and made good?
There is a house in Steatham on the A11 in the UK that does its own ebaying - whenever I drive past they have a range of goods sitting by the side of the road with hand drawn price boards.
The road transport system = the new ebay. People could club together to sell things and you could call them -- Oh I don't know -- Markets or Shops....
Or better still - use something like Jungledisk to push it into s3 and let someone else look after it
Yep,
this is just a fix for the python global interpreter lock
Why sort out language issues when you can make the hardware suit it better instead
This is exactly the point. I don't know about NZ but here in the UK government procurement is actually done on the basis that there needs to be an audit trail along which blame can be proportioned (and presumably someone sued if need be). Open source breaks that trail and public bodies find that *really* hard to get their heads around.
Everything in the public sector is goverened by rules designed to stop people taking risks (like having 'bright ideas' and trying to make things better). Everything is done according to rules - those rules where not designed with OS in mind.
yup - that old successful Unix club that has done so well commercially in recent years.
did you read *either* of the articles?
Wow - this is the *only* useful and informative post on this entire thread.....
this isn't the dot com bubble though we aren't going to make that mistake again. No - this is a new thing - this is the telecommunications bubble.
don't worry you sue the people controlling the hurricane - along with all the places it DID run over because they weren't important or rich enough to have the hurricane deflected.
damm - and I was finding spotlight useful as well. I hadn't realised it was useless - I'll stop using it right away.
They are not really forcing them off the shelves - its simple economics - Dixons are totally mainstream and 35mm film has become non-mainstream. Therefore they aren't going to sell film cameras anymore.
Not really news - we all know digital camera's are mainstream now.
Its up on the darwin page.
I've been looking at cron's (from various people) a bit recently and it certainly doesn't look much more complex and the code size is comparable.
Nah - this is proof of GOD:
you can see the joins!
I work for another Establishment organisation and we and others are working on improving the situation. Having the BBC as a shining light really does help.
Indeed. In case you where wondering *why* they want to make a codec take a read of this:
http://eff.org/IP/BBC_CMSC_testimony.php
The Creative Archive is a really exciting venture and one of the projects that gives me small hope that the British Government may yet get the hang of copyright and online content