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2.6 Ton Pinball Machine

nmoog writes "Heres something you don't see everyday - The Southtyrol-game is an 11 metre, 2.6 tonne pinball "style" machine. Its intention? 'Provide an ironic and entertaining demonstration of how the advent of tourism shaped the landscape and economic habits in the small Italian province of Southtyrol.' And powered by Linux to boot. Um, as well."

166 comments

  1. Strange... by Chuck+Bucket · · Score: 1

    But a great way to snag tourists, just think of your favorite Putt Putt Golf place; Peter Pan in Austin.

    CB

    1. Re:Strange... by netsharc · · Score: 1

      Well, South Tyrol (Tirol?) doesn't exactly have problems getting tourists, it's a popular destination for people from Germany and Austria.

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    2. Re:Strange... by BobGarcia · · Score: 1

      So here's Gepetto...stoned...The Who cranked to 11...a yodeler on a distant hillside...Heidi Can You Hear Me?

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    3. Re:Strange... by easter1916 · · Score: 1

      That's the funniest sig I've seen in a long time.

  2. Mirror by AndrewSchaefer · · Score: 5, Informative

    Before it gets /.'ed, I mirrored it.

    http://www.schaefer.nu/southtyrolgame/

    1. Re:Mirror by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks, it was getting slow...

    2. Re:Mirror by AndrewSchaefer · · Score: 5, Informative

      I guess making it a link helps. :)

      http://www.schaefer.nu/southtyrolgame/

    3. Re:Mirror by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, the site is in Italy. Anyone who attempts to slashdot it are going to sleep with the fishes, so don't worry about a mirror.

    4. Re:Mirror by Kris_J · · Score: 1

      Site go boom! He dead.

    5. Re:Mirror by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wow, for a .nu site, 400+kb/s download is not too shabby :P

    6. Re:Mirror by g0at · · Score: 5, Funny

      Ooooh a deft karma-doubling trick. :)

      Can I try too?

      Here is the mirror.

      There, I even "added value" to the HREF. heh.

      -b

    7. Re:Mirror by psych031337 · · Score: 1
      Ooooh a deft karma-doubling trick. :)Can I try too?


      And damn, it worked for him, it worked for you. Now it's my turn...

      [homeshopping_TV_salespersonvoice] You don't get one link, you don't get one value-enhanced link, we are not even going to give you two links, no, for the meager price of your modpoints YOU WILL GET THREE LINKS! All of them VALUE-ENHANCED and clickable...if that won't please you, NOTHING WILL![/homeshopping_TV_salespersonvoice]

      The whole site and the original mirror

      Whole site again, the newcoming copycat

      And for the verbally inclined here just the multimedia content

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    8. Re:Mirror by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope, didn't work for you, at least not yet...

    9. Re:Mirror by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apparently you fail it.

  3. Yes But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Does it run Windows .NET framework, Compact Edition?

    1. Re:Yes But by Stigmata669 · · Score: 1

      the moderator who modded this down is on crack. mod parent up!

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    2. Re:Yes But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i don't get it

    3. Re:Yes But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It runs Linood, and to make it run on 64 levers you only have to recarpenterate with the Dremel.

    4. Re:Yes But by jbottero · · Score: 1

      Everyone here knows the Moderators are biased. Just never use the "M" word, or point out any GNU/Linux flaw... Actually, I think they are like the guys in Weird Science, they are building a Linux driven robot woman to get laid...

  4. This looks great and all... by phraktyl · · Score: 4, Funny

    But at "11 metres long" and with "16 user operated levers", not to mention two steps going from one side to the other, multiball is going to suck.

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    1. Re:This looks great and all... by Snoopy77 · · Score: 4, Funny

      But at "11 metres long" and with "16 user operated levers", not to mention two steps going from one side to the other, multiball is going to suck.

      Never have 8 friends enjoyed weight training as much as when this game goes into multiball mode.

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    2. Re:This looks great and all... by fireman+sam · · Score: 2, Funny

      Quoth the poster:
      "Never have 8 friends enjoyed weight training as much as when this game goes into multiball mode."

      This is slashdot, as if anyone here would have 8 friends.

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    3. Re:This looks great and all... by SlamMan · · Score: 3, Funny

      Or do weight training.

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    4. Re:This looks great and all... by ShortSpecialBus · · Score: 1

      or enjoy things.

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    5. Re:This looks great and all... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *sigh* :-\
      You're too right, you know...

    6. Re:This looks great and all... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      or had multiple balls.

    7. Re:This looks great and all... by Bullet-Dodger · · Score: 3, Funny

      Or... have as much... as when... damnit all the good ones are taken.

    8. Re:This looks great and all... by Snoopy77 · · Score: 1

      Gee, if you modded me +5 funny then at least do the same for all the follow ups. They were ALL 10 times better than mine! Now I've gotta go to the glove compartment and break open the 'in case of accident' underwear.

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  5. TILT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    You need a major hernia operation.

  6. Text of page just in case: by OverlordQ · · Score: 3, Informative

    Considering there's 7 megs of movies on the page, it might get /.'ed pretty quick :) so:

    Southtyrol-game, powered by Linux
    Clicca qui per la versione italiana di questa pagina

    Merano - Italy, September, 24 2003.

    Today was the official presentation of the Southtyrol-game.
    The game is one of the worlds largest hand carved pinball style game machines. (Candidate for the Guinness World Records).
    It weighs 2.6 tons, is 11 metres long, 2.6 metres high, has 16 user operated levers, 72 metres of pathways for ball travel, 33 moving scenes,
    37 electric motors, 22 sensors and 16 audio speakers distributed over the entire game.
    It took about one year to build the game.

    The Southtyrol-game is located at the Touriseum, a museum dedicated to the history of tourism in the province of Southtyrol, which is located in Italy at the border with Austria.

    The intent of the game is to provide an ironic and entertaining demonstration of how the advent of tourism shaped the landscape and economic habbits in the small Italian province of Southtyrol

    What does a massive 2.6 ton wooden game have to do with Linux?
    The audio system is powered by Linux!

    There are dozens of motors and sensors that are operated by an industrial controller which is linked to the PC
    with a serial cable. Click here for a simple diagram of how it works.

    Everytime a ball passes sensors which are embedded in the pathways, the controller unit
    animates a nearby object by turning on the related motor and simultaneously sends the sensor number
    that was triggered through a serial cable.

    That way the PC knows which audio samples it must trigger and route to the various speakers located on the
    game board.

    The requirements that make a linux based PC solution more appropriate than dedicated sound modules includes:
    - low cost of multiple input and output soundcards
    - flexibility in controlling customized samples, trigger times, volumes, sample lengths, playback orders, assignment to arbitrary channels, etc
    - capability to play large samples at 44.1Khz and 16bit (CD quality).

    With 512MB of ram and a 40GB hard disk (sw-raid1) drive the computer meets all these requirements.
    The PC is just a standard Athlon box, for the audio we use the M-Audio Delta 1010 cards and for the audio API
    we use ALSA.
    Aditionally the PC stores on hard disk all the events (time stamped) that were triggered by the passing of balls.
    That way we can evaluate usage patterns of the game, eg what sections people like most or what sections are harder
    to reach.
    Example movies of the game in action
    (all movies in DIVX format, sorry for the bad video and audio quality, I recorded them using a digital camera with a builtin mic
    that does only low quality mjpeg AVIs which were later converted to DIVX thanks to mencoder).

    1) movie1.avi (1.6MB)
    In this movie the ball enters into a scene where a deer and a hunter hidden in the forest. The hunter emerges from his hiding place in the ground to shoot the deer. You hear the gun shot which is followed by applause.

    2) movie2.avi (1.3MB)
    In this scene the ball passes near a farm where it causes the cows to move and triggers the sounds of animals like roosters, cats, etc.

    3) movie3.avi (700KB)
    Here, as the ball passes a busy road, you see trucks traveling along the roadway and hear the sounds of various vehicles.

    4) movie4.avi (1.6MB)
    In this footage the ball rolls into an Apres ski which is an igloo shaped bar located near the ski slopes. You hear people shakin booty to the disco music.

    5) movie5.avi (1.5MB)
    In this movie the ball travels past a flock of noisy sheep which, not by coincidence, are very much like the herds of tourists that populate the ski resorts.
    Authors:
    Teo Mahlknecht: Woodcarving, mechanics
    Benno Senoner: Audio system powered by Linux (audio software development, hardware setup and optimization)
    Otto Vinatzer: industrial controller
    About other 10-12 people like electricians, carpenters etc contributed to make the game a reality.

    If you have questions, need more informations just contact us.

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  7. Hot damn... by Kedisar · · Score: 5, Funny

    There's NO tilting this bitch.

    1. Re:Hot damn... by thellamaman · · Score: 1

      ..unless you use Windows on it. Blue screen, tilt.. close enough.

    2. Re:Hot damn... by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 1
      Obviously you never seen german tourists. Just walking past it will make the balls jump.

      Damn this thingy is nuts. Pity the camera wobbler has had a few to many snaps.

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  8. the ironic thing is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In Soviet Russia 2.6 pinballs ton YOU!

  9. It's not 'powered by Linux' by spoco2 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    The thing is microprocessor/sensor/mechanically controlled, Linux is only used for the audio portion of it... Geeze you guys are quick to claim whatever you can as 'being Linux' aren't you?

    1. Re:It's not 'powered by Linux' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Its a time honored standby, not in the least bit invented by Linux people.

      In order to increase your public awareness, you hang off every little bit, constantly keeping the concept in the public eye, until it really does mean what it says.

      How do you think Linux has managed to get where it is now? By the very concept you see above. Timeless repetition of good work and word of mouth.

    2. Re:It's not 'powered by Linux' by MarkJensen · · Score: 1

      Well, I suppose the original poster should have stated that the audio was powered by Linux. ;)

      Plus, if the audio were powered by Windows, then it might very well exclaim a rather loud and annoying "YOU'VE GOT MAIL" the first time somone hit the AOL partner bumper... :P

    3. Re:It's not 'powered by Linux' by ThogScully · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually, a lot more is powered by Linux that that. The sensors you speak of trigger events on the Linux machine so that it plays the correct sound and can log the event. Then the Linux machine can be used to analyze playing habits, difficulties, etc. It's a very good implementation I'd say.

      Linux doesn't have to do everything for it to be an impressive application of the software. He used what was best for each job and interfaced all of it together.
      -N

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    4. Re:It's not 'powered by Linux' by spoco2 · · Score: 1

      Logging the event is hardly a 'lot' more than just playing them.

      It's a nice use of Linux, but an industrial controller does the hard work.

      I do approve of it and guess that if it were running windows that after a while of running all you'd here is the standard windows 'ding' over and over due to an error... :)

    5. Re:It's not 'powered by Linux' by Lost+Race · · Score: 3, Informative
      You beat me to the post.

      This phrase really grates on my nerves. Game machines, PVRs, PDAs, etc, are not powered by Linux. They're powered by electricity. They run Linux among other software.

      And while we're on the subject of word misusage -- Slashdot is for nerds, not geeks. Geeks are sideshow performers that do entertain people by doing disgusting things. Technophilic misfits are nerds. It's right there on the Slashdot logo ("News for Nerds"), but people persistently refer to nerds as "geeks" in the postings.

    6. Re:It's not 'powered by Linux' by kdsolutions · · Score: 0

      and taking on this new topic (therefore, not offtipoc, troll, or flamebate)...

      What's a dork, then?

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    7. Re:It's not 'powered by Linux' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Dork" is slang for "penis".

    8. Re:It's not 'powered by Linux' by sbenno · · Score: 1

      The industrial controller does not do that much in fact. Basically simple logic operations like
      if(sensor1==ON AND sensor2==OFF) then start motor 2 for 5 secs
      etc

      We could have powered the game entirely by Linux by using multi I/O cards that can drive relays and sensors, but the automation control was already assigned to an other firm when I came into play and suggested a Linux box for doing the audio stuff.

      The artist (a friend of mine, we live in the same town) is excited the flexibility and power of Linux and has alredy in mind to build more weird linux powered wooden sculptures, this time linux doing the automation stuff too.

      Benno Senoner

    9. Re:It's not 'powered by Linux' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Geeks are sideshow performers that do entertain people by doing disgusting things.

      This sure sounds like the majority of slashdot readers to me...

    10. Re:It's not 'powered by Linux' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kay not to contradict you for the fun of it, cause i don't like being called a geek neiter, but here's some definitions to help your understanding of the slang english language: Geek definition

      1. b. A person who is single-minded or accomplished in scientific or technical pursuits but is felt to be socially inept.

      Have a nice day

  10. Well ... by phoxix · · Score: 2, Funny
    It sure looks more like a nice piece of art to me ...

    Sunny Dubey

  11. Predictable joke #2 of X by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who tilted their website?

  12. Overheard conversation by miyako · · Score: 5, Funny

    Teo: Hey benno putting those large pictures and divx movies on the site was a great idea!
    Benno: Yes, now the world can see how cool this thing is
    Teo: Hmm, the server seems a little slow
    Benno: Oh, it looks like we've been posted on slashdot, I expected as much, seeing as we are using linux
    Teo: ...and you still put all those pictures and videos on the site?
    Benno: Yep
    Teo: *SLAP!*

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    1. Re:Overheard conversation by Alien+Being · · Score: 1

      Teo: *SLAP!*
      Webserver: TILT

  13. Mod him up by soliaus · · Score: 1

    This is one of the only jokes on slashdot that has made me laugh, and you mod it down? I know the poster is an anonymous bastard, but come on....think about the joke.

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  14. 11 metres long? Tourists not wanted by iamhassi · · Score: 4, Funny
    so you hit the ball, then watch it bounce around for an hour before getting back to the flippers?

    talk about getting your quarter's worth.

    "In this movie the ball travels past a flock of noisy sheep which, not by coincidence, are very much like the herds of tourists that populate the ski resorts."

    Doesn't sound like the tourists are wanted, strange considering the game is "located at the Touriseum, a museum dedicated to the history of tourism in the province of Southtyrol". When I hit the ball do I hear "Tourists suck!" and "Tourists go home!"?

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  15. Yeah, but ... by Snoopy77 · · Score: 1

    can it handle a 2.6Gb slashdotting? I don't think so.

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  16. powered by linux... by AdroitOneX · · Score: 1

    but does it support Ogg?

  17. Not so long ago..... by oliverthered · · Score: 4, Funny

    Not so long ago, before the 'torists' came the population of Southtyrol were poor, probably didn't know what day of the week it was, but self sufficient.

    then they came, with prommise of all the great things to come, but now the inhabitants of Southtyrol are over run by forign invaders and will never be able to return to there peacefull way of life.

    Multiball activated.

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    1. Re:Not so long ago..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Prehistoric archaeological finds provide evidence that Feldthurns was settled as early as 1000BC. The name of Feldthurns - earlier known as Velthurn - is of Rhaetic, and therefore pre-Roman, origin.

      According to historians, the first nobles of "Velthurn" had a fortress in the area now known as Schrambach, although there is no trace left of this today. However, there is evidence of a fortress known as "Ziern" which stood on the Pflegerbuhel and belonged to the "Lords of Velthurn", who appeared around 1112.

      "Otzi" - an inhabitant of Feldthurns?

      According to the most recent scientific discoveries, Otzi, found ten years ago, was probably an inhabitant of the Eisacktal, and perhaps even of Feldthurns.

      About 5000 years ago in the Copper Age, many tools were still made of flint. Copper, the first metal used by humans, was rare and was worshipped in cult fashion.

      It is possible that the man known as "Otzi" was from the Hauslabjoch and searching for the precious metal when he died. The archaeologists have excavated ceramic vessels dating from the era of the culture known as the Beaker Culture. The most important find was a burial site in the form of an approximately 20m long oval heap of stones. This huge pile of stones was crowned with a menhir showing depictions of axes, daggers, arrowheads and bows.

      Only three of these cult sites have been excavated in the entire Alpine region - in Aosta, in the Wallis and in Feldthurns. The presence of copper slag shows that the inhabitants of Feldthurns at that time already knew how to work this metal. This would also tally with the copper axe found with Otzi.

      Tyrol was a county of the Holy Roman Empire until its dissolution in 1806, and a crownland of Austria-Hungary until it dissolved in 1918.

      The southern part of Tyrol was occupied by Italian forces at the end of World War I and was subsequently ceded to Italy. The northern part is today a federal state of Austria called Tyrol, while the South Tyrol today constitutes the Italian province of Bozen-Bolzano.

      South Tyrol (German Sudtirol, Italian Alto Adige (official), Sudtirolo (unofficial))

      In the aftermath of World War I a relevant part of Austrian Tyrol was occupied by Italy, and subsequently annexed. The areas around Trent formed Italian-speaking Trentino. In the north the valleys around Bolzano/Bozen were inhabited by ethnic Germans and Ladins (Today the third official language of South Tyrol, alongside German and Italian).

      After the rise of Fascism in 1922 a policy of de-Germanization was carried on ruthlessly. All places, up to the tiniest hamlet, were given Italian names, and even some family names were translated.

      With the Treaty of Gruber-De Gasperi the winner of WWII decided to give South Tyrol to Italy but at the same time the german speaking people where granted special rights.

      Today South Tyrol (i.e. the Province of Bozen-Bolzano) enjoys a high degree of autonomy, and relations with North and East Tyrol - the two portions of the old state retained by Austria - are lively, especially since Austria joined the European Union.

    2. Re:Not so long ago..... by Wateshay · · Score: 1

      Oh, like you wrote that...

      Me smells a karma whore.

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    3. Re:Not so long ago..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      an anonymous one,
      More a karma wraith than whore

    4. Re:Not so long ago..... by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 1
      Actually they return to it every summer :)

      Awh lost a ball.

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  18. which does it have? by NumLk · · Score: 4, Funny

    Balls of Steel or Big Brass Balls

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    1. Re:which does it have? by Luigi30 · · Score: 0

      Who cares, it's 11 meters long with 12 levers!

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  19. to boot by radoni · · Score: 0, Troll

    ha! italy, shaped like boot!

    ha!

    so i guess hurricane fran went out with a ... bang?

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    1. Re:to boot by flogger · · Score: 1

      A troll. Oh well. I'll bite:

      It isn't because Italy is shaped like a boot. It's becaue it boots off of linux.

      **goes for the life vest as Karma goes down the drain.**

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  20. Hmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let's see Junis try to hide *THIS* machine in the desert.

  21. New rallying cry for art geeks by shut_up_man · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Your 2.6 tonne art installation is not complete until it has Linux doing something unexpectedly funky in it."

    1. Re:New rallying cry for art geeks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wtf is a tonne

    2. Re:New rallying cry for art geeks by JebusIsLord · · Score: 1

      A metric "ton" as you slackjawed Americans understand them.

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  22. Beware IP lawsuits! by repressitol · · Score: 1

    2.6 tonne pinball "style" machine

    It's obviously based on "Longhorn"

    1. Re:Beware IP lawsuits! by glenebob · · Score: 1

      Maybe it's just a cash cow?

  23. Industrial Controller. by Bluetrust25 · · Score: 1

    Anybody have an idea as to what the "industrial controller" is? I'd love a device like that which I could plug into the serial port and read sensors.

    1. Re:Industrial Controller. by MarkJensen · · Score: 1

      I would have to guess it would be a PLC, much like an Allen-Bradly, or a GEFanuc. Maybe if *I* RTFA, I would find the answer is there, but I didn't...

      TILT :(

    2. Re:Industrial Controller. by thebigmacd · · Score: 1

      Not necessarily a PLC, could easily be a BACnet realtime controller programmed in GCL+

      www.deltacontrols.com

      Ya, I'm an HVAC guy.

    3. Re:Industrial Controller. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have no clue what these guys used. I'm very much a DIY'er myself though, so I'd recommend starting your adventure here:

      epanorama

    4. Re:Industrial Controller. by sbenno · · Score: 1

      AFAIK a PLC from SAIA (swiss manufacturer)

      http://www.saia-burgess.com

      Anyway doing it purely with Linux using a digital multi I/O card would have been cheaper because those I/O cards (eg with 48-96 in/outs) cost only around $200-$300.

      Anyway the current solution does its job well and perhaps in future we will go with a pure linux based solution.

      Benno Senoner

    5. Re:Industrial Controller. by DerPflanz · · Score: 1

      According to the photo of the rack, it seems like a Siemens Simatic S7 PLC, an industrial strength controller, also used in automation.

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    6. Re:Industrial Controller. by DerPflanz · · Score: 1

      Addendum: If you want a controller just for fun, don't go for this one, it is way too expensive. Perhaps you could get its predecessor (S5), but I recommend something like an Atmel microcontroller. I am playing with the Atmega16 now, which has RS-232 and I2C built in. It has 4 8-bit I/O ports and A/D convertors. You could for example automate your house with it easily.

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  24. Want to learn how to interface electronics to a PC by t0qer · · Score: 3, Informative

    This site has been very usefull to me.
    http://www.aaroncake.net/circuits/index.asp

  25. Bump? by Professor+North · · Score: 1

    Very interesting, but how does one go about 'bumping' a 2.6 ton pinball machine? ;)

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    1. Re:Bump? by endx7 · · Score: 1

      That's what your 20 ton hippo is for.

    2. Re:Bump? by The_dev0 · · Score: 1

      ...But my wife HATES pinball.

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  26. It may be powered by linux... by SuperBanana · · Score: 0, Redundant
    ...but it's displaying "TILT" on the console, at least until this story is off the front page.

    Then again, maybe "FALLEN OVER- CAN'T GET UP" is more apt.

  27. Has to be said... by EverDense · · Score: 0, Troll

    This one must have balls the CLANK!

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    1. Re:Has to be said... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How is this POSSIBLY a "Troll"?

  28. The question is... by Racine · · Score: 1

    Can a pinball "style" machine be played by sense of smell?

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    1. Re:The question is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can a pinball "style" machine be played by sense of smell?

      Only by deaf, dumb and blind kids...

  29. That's not pinball ! by jafiwam · · Score: 3, Informative

    That's the Horta with little trees clued to it's back.

    Seriously, it looks nice an all, but pinball to me always has had a basic format, board, thingies to make the ball do stuff, flippers, hole in bottom.

    That thing lacks the essential qualities of a pinball machine. It's closer to Pachinko in my opinion....

    1. Re:That's not pinball ! by EnterpriseNCC-1701 · · Score: 1

      That indeed works rather well. The Pinballs I suppose are the Horta's eggs. I guess there will be a lot of multi-ball games.

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    2. Re:That's not pinball ! by Galvatron · · Score: 1

      I believe it's meant as a piece of modern art. The site's pretty well /.ed now, but I believe that's what it said when I visited. Meant as a comment on how tourism is destroying a small town, or something like that.

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  30. Right... so? by mog007 · · Score: 1

    Small or big, /.

    Which is more important to you?

  31. Surreal... by cybermace5 · · Score: 1, Troll

    The Touriseum, eh? A museum dedicated to tourism.

    That's kind of like a book about people who read, or a movie portraying people watching movies.

    Who would go to a tourist attraction, which is dedicated to proving how tourist attractions ruined the way of life for that place? Someone in search of the elusive "one hand clapping" sound, maybe.

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    1. Re:Surreal... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or a slashdot post about people posting on slashdot.

    2. Re:Surreal... by The_dev0 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, good things don't end with eum. They end with mania. Or teria!

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    3. Re:Surreal... by radja · · Score: 1

      or -ol, or -ine

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  32. OK, is it 2.6 tonnes or 2.6 tons (or 2.6 tons)? by SnappingTurtle · · Score: 1

    'cause it's either 5730 pounds, or 5824 pounds, or 5200 pounds.

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    1. Re:OK, is it 2.6 tonnes or 2.6 tons (or 2.6 tons)? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  33. That is Pinball? by EnterpriseNCC-1701 · · Score: 1

    Pinball meats miniture golf!!!

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  34. New lyrics by "The Who" by Judg3 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ever since I was a young boy,
    I've played the silver ball.
    From Soho down to Brighton
    I must have played them all.
    But I ain't seen nothing like it
    In any amusement hall...
    That two point six ton machine
    Sure ain't no damn pin ball !

    Horrible quick parody of "The Who"s song Pinball Wizard.

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    1. Re:New lyrics by "The Who" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      someone please give him his point back, i chose "offtopic" accidentally...sorry!

    2. Re:New lyrics by "The Who" by Jaysyn · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Now how the fuck is that offtopic?

      Jaysyn

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    3. Re:New lyrics by "The Who" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      asshat

  35. Can't resist obvious weight joke... by saskboy · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    "2.6 ton"

    Imagine a 2.6 METRIC tonne cluster of these pinball machines!

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    1. Re:Can't resist obvious weight joke... by Zork+the+Almighty · · Score: 1

      One beer ? ... That's like 30 metric beers, eh ?

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  36. Imagine... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...NOT making a Beowulf cluster joke about this.

  37. Can you imagine... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    a Beowulf cluster of these?

    You thought it, but only I had the courage to say it.

  38. EGAD ... HE DOUBLED HIS KARMA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Sly bastard.

    1. Re:EGAD ... HE DOUBLED HIS KARMA by AchmedHabib · · Score: 1

      Uh karma, bah! scew karma!

  39. Cardiovascular arcade! by paroneayea · · Score: 1

    Wow... that thing is long... and huge! And so many levers! I mean, could you imagine how nuts it would be to play this thing singleplayer if you got a multiball combo?

    Sounds like exercise to me. Wait... I don't like exercise! But it's also pinball! Oh, it's just not fair!

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  40. Wuhooo! 2.6 is gonna rock! by utahjazz · · Score: 1

    Oh wait...nevermind.

  41. Re:I SHOVED A BIG GREASY PINBALL UP MY ASSHOLE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    any pics? please?

  42. A great way... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To enjoy fine Italian food and wine, while watching everyone else fool around with this machine.

  43. Units? by heli0 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Submission:
    "Heres something you don't see everyday - The Southtyrol-game is an 11 metre, 2.6 tonne pinball "style" machine."

    Mirrored Story:
    The game is one of the worlds largest hand carved pinball style game machines. (Candidate for the Guinness World Records).
    It weighs 2.6 tons,


    So does it weigh

    2.6tonne(SI); 2,600kg (5,730lbs)? or

    2.6ton(US); 5,200lbs (2,360kg)? or

    2.6ton(UK); 5,820lbs (2,640kg)?
    Maybe we can get this in units of stones or VW beetles?

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    1. Re:Units? by Holger+Spielmann · · Score: 1
      Gee, this is Italia. Ya know, Europe, Rest of the World, Non-US?
      Dya *really* think anybody there counts something in bushels, pints, hogspots, PSI, inches or WTF?

      Certainly it's metric.

    2. Re:Units? by DataCannibal · · Score: 1

      I thought that the standard unit of weight on Slahdot was now the raincloud ?

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    3. Re:Units? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      BEER!!!

      Nearly everyone in the world measure beer in pints. There are some things that just shouldn't change.

      Of course, the silly Americans went and messed that one up too. Not only is an American pint only 16oz, but their ounces are wrong to begin with. Furthermore, I often see an 18.7oz "pint of beer" being sold in bars in the US. What the hell is THAT???

    4. Re:Units? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or maybe Elephants...

    5. Re:Units? by easter1916 · · Score: 1

      Continental Europe uses litres for beer. In Europe only the UK and Ireland still use pints, having been granted an exception by the EU as it is a "cultural" thing. I'm Irish myself and think that's bullshit, but there you go.

  44. Re:11 metres long? Tourists not wanted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that would rule

  45. OH WOW! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Audio powered by linux, my god, what a triumph for the linux community.

    Sorry to burst your bubble, but controlling audio events could have been done with a 386 running MS-DOS. My hat is off to the engineers who put this together (it is rather neat) but the linux zealots can go back to their closets now.

    1. Re:OH WOW! by sbenno · · Score: 1

      Being a developer and enthusiast of linux audio, I admit it it is not something exceptional. Just a multi channel sample player driven by the serial port. But it is quite demanding in terms of resources.

      we must be able to access about 300MByte of CD quality samples with low latency ( 10msec) and be able to play 16 simultaneous audio clips with virtually no delay.

      The "audio server" software I wrote fires up about 4 threads, 2 for controlling the audio cards, 1 for monitoring the serial input and one thread that can comunicate with an external GUI where the operator can add/remove samples, edit parameters and asssign them to the various actions.

      The box runs X-Window when the operator needs the GUI, but normally linux boots in text mode to save RAM resources.

      The event logging on hard disk is done using lower priority threads so that it does not interfere with audio playback.

      So tell me how to do all this stuff with a 386 with DOS, kinda hopeless eh ? ;-)
      (plus .... good luck in finding drivers for 24 bit multi I/O audio cards)

      Could we have implemented it by using a Windows Box ?
      Yes but why spend additional $$ for Windows licenses, bitch about instabilities, need to run the GUI all the time, binary sound card drivers issues, need to buy development tools like compilers etc. (no sorry, I do not want to use cygwin on Windows).

      Benno Senoner

    2. Re:OH WOW! by bluGill · · Score: 1

      I'll do this all on a 386 running DOS. For far more time and effort than you spent on it. If linux can use the sound cards, then I can find the specs. A ISA-PCI bridge can be build by any electrical engineer bored enough to do it. Programing it isn't a big deal.

      Time however is a big deal. This entire project was done in one year. Working full time I estimate I could impliment the computer programing parts on a 386 in 2 years. I wouldn't have to impliment many things that linux does, but I would end up re-implimenting a lot of linux in some form. My schedualer would be a lot easier to write, interupts sends an event in the sound queue, and the io queue. Process sound queue, then IO queue, and if any time is left, check for keyboard input. (Note, writting a nice GUI adds 2 years)

      The 386 would be io bound more than anything, but given enough memory there should be enough power there.

  46. Did you look at the pictures? by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 2, Funny

    Did you look at the pictures?

    It looks like Jabba the Hutt attempting intercourse with Shelob the Spider.

  47. "Hacking" pinball machines ... :-) by Silicon_Knight · · Score: 1

    Reminds me of the time in HS once upon a time when we'd go to the local "Lamp Post Pizza" where they had a pinball machine. Bring along a hard drive magnet, and play as long as you want on a quarter. The people who worked there were cool and as long as we ordered food, they thought it was a pretty cool "hack".

    Anyone else knows any cool pinball tricks?

    -=- Terence

    (For those who can't see how this trick works: The pinball is a steel ball bearing. So, plop the magnet down at the bottom near the pit and when you loose, you just drag the ball back up and keep playing :-D. HD magnets are nice and strong and does the trick quite nicely.)

    1. Re:"Hacking" pinball machines ... :-) by cellocgw · · Score: 1

      {comment about using a magnet}
      Give me a breaaaaak! Magnets were used at least as
      far back as the 1950's. They were a lot more useful, so to speak, before flippers made their appearance.
      As people would say on rec.games.pinball, if you're going to cheat why not just take off the glass and place the ball wherever you want?
      Magnets. sheesh. You could at least try The Addams Family and see what happens when magnets *under* the playfield are randomly activated.

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  48. The PETA people are going to love this... by jimmydigital · · Score: 1

    In this movie the ball enters into a scene where a deer and a hunter hidden in the forest. The hunter emerges from his hiding place in the ground to shoot the deer. You hear the gun shot which is followed by applause.

    Before you ask... yes I enjoy eating tasty animals..

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  49. Simple-minded Aussie tourist industry's "Giant x" by ivi · · Score: 1


    1. Find a popular thing
    2. Construct a giant-sized version of it locally
    3. ???
    4. Profit

    One Aussie small town managed to build
    their BIG fruit or vegetable spin-off
    up-side-down... so they featured it as
    being a "more natural" form of the thing.

    "If you can't fix it, Feature it!"
    G Weinberg's Secrets of Consulting

  50. Complete mirror, movies too :) by qmrq · · Score: 2, Informative
    The server was terribly slow for me, as was the first mirror, so I pulled out wget for everyone. Enjoy :)

    mirror

  51. guiness book by wmaker · · Score: 1

    The guiness book of world record being,,,, the biggest waste of time ever?

  52. Oh, that's cool! by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 1
    (For those who can't see how this trick works: The pinball is a steel ball bearing. So, plop the magnet down at the bottom near the pit and when you loose, you just drag the ball back up and keep playing :-D. HD magnets are nice and strong and does the trick quite nicely.)

    Oh my god! I can't believe I never thought to try that. --As Tesla once said, "The answer was so simple I almost overlooked it."

    You are my new hero.

    Remember those super cool tables? The Star Trek TNG, Indiana Jones and Star Wars tables? I seem to recall the glass being rather far away from the game surface on those. . . Oh well. Those games were more than worth the coinage! My fave was the Indy table.

    With best Sean Connery accent. . . "And this is how we say 'Goodnight' in German!" -Followed by fist against jaw noise. Ka-Pow!

    Sigh. My geek side comes out to play. Nothing truly cool has happened since those days. Except perhaps the Fellowship of the Rings extended DVD, and Miyazaki's Spirited Away.

    Everything else is simply pale when compared to a silver pinball going up a time-sensitive ramp.


    -FL

    1. Re:Oh, that's cool! by DZign · · Score: 1

      Nothing truly cool has happened since those days. Except perhaps the Fellowship of the Rings extended DVD, and Miyazaki's Spirited Away

      I hope I'm not going too much off topic now (oh yeah- /., can't really go offtopic there :-)
      but.. the next pinball machine by Stern is going to be the Lords of the rings theme..

  53. I refuse... by caferace · · Score: 1

    ...to imagine a beowulf cluster of these.

  54. But remember by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In Soviet Russia, the 2.6 tonne pinball game tilts you.

  55. I RTFA by Nf1nk · · Score: 1

    And no it didn't say

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  56. Two steps forward... by Mulletproof · · Score: 1

    "..And powered by Linux to boot. Um, as well."

    Hmmm, I guess Linux isn't on the ass end of gaming after all. Just the really weird and obscure end of it...

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  57. Brought to you by... by Ralph+Spoilsport · · Score: 1

    the same kind of people who invented the 2 stroke kick start vibrator... RS dynamo hummmm....

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  58. Delightful! by Zhe+Mappel · · Score: 1
    As a pinball fan, my only complaint is: Where are the flippers?! ;-)

    The molded interactive landscape is a beautiful quaint metaphor to use for this purpose - sort of drawing its influences from a grab bag of model train sets, folk sculpture and Advent Calendars. Most of all I'm glad they opted for something tactile rather than a 3d computer model; this will impress children in particular long after they've forgotten one more computer screen (and that's who you want historical representations to impress - the young ones - otherwise why bother?). In its sprawling size and interactivity, it reminds me of the legendary gadgets and contraptions that I used to mess around with as a kid at Chicago's Museum of Science and Industry - back in the 60s, the coolest nerd playground in the midwest.

  59. Neat but... by silverhalide · · Score: 1
    That's pretty neat, but I think it falls short of the traditional definition of pinball...

    Interesting tidbit: The largest machine ever to be mass produced was Atari's Hercules. It was 83" (211 cm) tall, 41" (103 cm) wide, and 93" (236 cm) deep. Weighed a hefty 275 lbs. Not quite the monster in the article, but it was mass produced and used a ball the size of a cue ball.

  60. MODS on CRACK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How is talking about the pinball machine off topic?

    Can you please explain that for the kiddies?

  61. Re:11 metres long? Tourists not wanted by sbenno · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Had you read the page then you would have discovered that the game is an ironic and joking way to describe tourism in the province. The truth is that during winter the slopes and lifts are really such overcrowded that it seems like being in the middle of a herd of sheeps. This is not to speak negatively about turists.
    I think a bit of humourism in life does not hurt, otherwise we will just all degrade boring droids with no soul. ;-)

    Benno Senoner

  62. there was a movie about this by ronaldyang · · Score: 1

    Where Tom Hanks became really TALL and rented a SPACIOUS apartment with HEAVY pinball games.

  63. South Tyrol by ihatesco · · Score: 1
    Before you start wondering:
    South Tyrol is only a mere geographical expression.

    They are only good for their Wafer Candies and because they host an Oktoberfest even if they are in Italy.

    + + + +

    Ok, ok, I love South Tyrol (even if I am not a Tyrolean).

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    1. Re:South Tyrol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well... then italy itself is only a mere geographical expression given that in South Tyrol they speak German or are at least bilingual. But it is true Italy virtually does not exist as a country but hosts several diffirent cultures and ethnic groups that a bizzarre series of events in history as forced to live together against their will.

  64. I think this is a good idea... by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

    It sounds like a good idea. but I wasn't terribly impressed with the site. I was hoping more for an 80s style pinball, perhaps with a 80lb steel ball bearing for the pinball. You know, something that could smash fingers and crack timbers.

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  65. I love it. by panurge · · Score: 1
    I'm really impressed by this thing.
    Congratulations to the builders.

    There is a great European tradition of mechanical devices like this, and it's good it is being kept up so creatively. Not to knock Disney, but some of these creations have a wonderful, slightly kitsch, homegrown quality that is lightyears from Hollywood production values. For people who like them, a great place to visit used to be St. Croix in the Swiss Jura. I haven't been there recently and don't know if the factory tours are still going, but the music boxes and the automata are geek paradise. Just the tiny machine tools that made the tiny screws were awesome. And if you wonder whether modern kids like this kind of stuff, their jaws drop. The only sounds to be heard during the automata demonstration were the demonstrator explaining in French, and a kind French visitor simultanously translating into English for the non-French speakers. Nearby is a museum of automata, which shows what some people got up to before home computing.

    Other amazing things in the same tradition are the Christmas cribs on Malta and Gozo, some of which may also be running on Linux by now. The only problem in gaining a proper appreciation is fighting your way past German tourists with video cameras.

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  66. Inspiration by Psychic+Burrito · · Score: 1

    Of course, this flipper has been inspired by a 15 year old machine called the Tourismus Flipper, to be seen on permanent exhibition in the Swiss Transport Museum in Lucerne. Only half a ton, but still Guiness-worthy in its time :-) Here are some pictures.

    1. Re:Inspiration by arth1 · · Score: 1
      Of course, this flipper has been inspired by a 15 year old machine called the Tourismus Flipper, to be seen on permanent exhibition in the Swiss Transport Museum in Lucerne.

      Ah. But the Swiss weren't first. New Yorkers have been flipping tourists for a century or more.

      Regards,
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  67. So when the ball gets stuck.. by adeyadey · · Score: 1

    They have to send a mountain rescue team into the game..

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  68. The question is... by wirde · · Score: 1
    Which is cooler: huge pinball machine or tiny?

    Pinball

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  69. Re:11 metres long? Tourists not wanted by SubtleNuance · · Score: 1

    Actually, in Italy, some tourists nare NOT wanted. Italy has a problem with ignorant, littering, loud, obnoxious tourists. The kind who sit on church steps in shorts and tshirts dropping mcdonalds litter beside them.

    there is much press on the matter.

    http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/955768/posts
    http://www.american.edu/TED/VENICE.HTM

  70. Token size? by Blimey85 · · Score: 1

    2.6 ton pinball machine... damn... I wonder what size tokens it takes?

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  71. if you like weird pinball by cellocgw · · Score: 1

    ... then you might want to read Philip K Dick's "Return Match." Then stop and think whether you want to play an alien pinball machine :-)

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  72. youre wright by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    he-res i donut see every dae!

  73. Re:11 metres long? Tourists not wanted by easter1916 · · Score: 1

    Subtle humour is wasted on these pages, Benno.