One thing that should have been made more clear in the open letter and all the posts was the fact that every reasonable method of trying to find answers was ignored/removed by CCP and the mods. The reasonable forum post was instantly deleted, petitions questioning the DS1 thing (which would have answered teh whole thing right away!) were deleted with no responses, and since only BoB have MSN access, there really wasn't much left.
CCP went out of their way to ignore the questions until they needed to be made public enough to not be ignored.
I'm going to have to disagree a bit there, with the whole "isk is hard" thing. I've been playing for less than two months. If you are more creative than mining veld in empire, you can make amazing amounts of isk. 50 million a day from ratting alone isn't that difficult at all, just takes a few hours a day. Seeing as a battleship costs 110 million (usually less, down to about 55 million depending on type) unfitted, 3 days can pay for a battleship with t1 fittings without much effort. t2 fittings will bring the price up a lot, but still within reason. Especially because unless you are a fool, you are insuring your ship with platinum, which will pay out basically the entire cost of the ship. So, pretty much if you lose your ship (BS or less in value, I'm not talking cap ships) you're only losing 50 million at most with named t1 fittings.
Also, new players can make a difference on their first day if they choose. Granted, it helps to be in a 0.0 corp on your first day, but you can still be useful in lowsec ganking no matter what, as a frigate tackler. It's not like if you aren't a 20 million SP player, nobody will want you in a gang with them. Even the 900k SP player on his first day is useful and can turn the tide of a small fight.
One of the best things about EVE is that you make a difference and can feel part of the game right away as supposed to needing to grind forever to do anything worthwhile. That, and you die a lot, and you do actually lose something, even if its minimal as far as time goes. Never being safe anywhere is fun, and keeps it from becoming monotonous.
The whole mess now is pretty bad. I'm in one of the corps involved on the non-CCP side, and we've been battling BoB for a while now. The problem isn't so much that we think BoB is cheating, because we knew the developers were doing that for a while now, the problem is that CCP will cover it up and BoB doesn't even bother to hide the fact anymore. And the cheating (or if not cheating, curious indescretions) is/are getting more blatant and obvious. The t2 BPO rigging wasn't out in the open, but the GM joining DS1 and making himself a director for no apparent reason, and deleting all the questions as to why is offputting to say the least. The guy getting fired because BoB wanted to show off how connected they were is awful.
Possibly the worst one of all is the RP rigging. Lots and lots of people don't play in 0.0, they play in empire. I don't think I could handle spending any time in empire besides occasionally buying stuff on the cheap or ganking something, but for the large number of players that do, I think RP is pretty important to them. A lot of people don't care what happens in 0.0, but they've now crapped on everyone.
Dude, if you think sucking people's blood and porn are related you should probably seek some professional help. Or at the very least a colour chart.
Hi!! Welcome to the internet, the information superhighway where you can find anything and everything, including porn related to anything and everything!!
You should get +100000 Interesting because you're sooooo enlightened that you can point out criticism of Microsoft on Slashdot. After all, it's cool to like Microsoft now because you're going against the grain, you super-elite contrarian, you. You're just way too cool to like the iPod, because enough people like it that it's no longer esoteric and niche enough for you to enjoy it yourself.
See, now you're just being overly critical of the whole situation.
Obviously, many of them are killer training programs, or murder simulators. Video "games" my ass!! We are training our children to become hardened murders who have no sense of human rights.
If you disagree with this statement, I'll fucking kill you.
But if you think that's relevant, how about pedophiles - should they be forced to abstain from practising their sexual preferences (in a consensual way of course) because of society's disapproval?
Should a Pedophile Guild be allowed?
Uhhhh...of course they should be forced to abstain from practicing! There is no consensual way to practice pedophilia, unless you're talking about role-playing with another adult. A child doesn't have the mental capacity to consent to that sort of thing, as they don't understand the actions and the rammifications of said actions.
Perhaps I was missing a sarcastic point you were making, in which case I apologize.
Didn't IBM come out with the same thing either first or shortly after the powerbooks did?
I remember a bunch of stupid commercials with the guys at a lunch counter and the one dude drops the laptop that turns out not to be the one with the motion sensor in it.
Actually, being a former hockey player, my muscles are pretty much always doing that; I still tend to walk with my feet like this: \ /
I also play hockey, and I can kinda vouch for that. I'm not sure I so much walk with my feet in a V, but I can say that I no longer notice a difference after I take my skates off. I think once you build up those muscle groups, your feelings adjust more quickly. Playing 3-5 times a week gets your leg muscles built up in a hurry!
I don't read Indymedia ever, but what's wrong with al-Jazeera? They're certainly a legitimate news source. Sometimes they're biased, but who isn't? They're at least as fair and balanced as Fox News. Perhaps they go over the top with sensationalistic stuff, and other things, but it is interesting to hear viewpoints from "the other side." I don't always agree with them, but it's interesting to see what they have to say about some events.
I suggest reading their english news site for a while. It's really not that bad.
Again playing devil's advocate here - Would a private contract limiting freedom of speech be considered breaking a law, even though the first amendment is not a law exactly?
No. The government is NOT required to protect anyone's free speech. The relevant wording is "Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech."
Not that I think this is a valid argument, but one might look at it as Congress made a law allowing private establishments to dictate their own rules on free speech. Could this be thought of as making a law abridging the freedom of speech?
As I said, I don't think it's a valid argument, but what would be said if that was argued?
That's pretty broad. Most people fit #3, and I think you could count on a single hand the number of people in the world who don't fit #4. Who is never irritable??
With those two hit by most of the population, I would think the number of people that grab a random one of the rest are pretty high, especially with #1 being as vague as it is.
I think the "worst" of those are probably #5 and #7. Then again, you might not have explained the criteria to meet one, such as how irratable someone is, etc...
This data must be really really old too - I grew up in Plymouth, the city just to the south of the track. It seems to be about half the size it is now - There is virtually no development between E and Hwy 57 in that shot, and it's pretty built up now. I'm guessing that's from at least 1992 or earlier even. Kinda interesting.
You can thank people from out of state for that. The bulk of the arrests are people from Minnesota or other states - the people actually living here did very little of the damage.
I managed to avoid the riots this year but got caught up in them the year before trying to get away. Not a lot of fun.
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One thing that should have been made more clear in the open letter and all the posts was the fact that every reasonable method of trying to find answers was ignored/removed by CCP and the mods. The reasonable forum post was instantly deleted, petitions questioning the DS1 thing (which would have answered teh whole thing right away!) were deleted with no responses, and since only BoB have MSN access, there really wasn't much left.
CCP went out of their way to ignore the questions until they needed to be made public enough to not be ignored.
I'm going to have to disagree a bit there, with the whole "isk is hard" thing. I've been playing for less than two months. If you are more creative than mining veld in empire, you can make amazing amounts of isk. 50 million a day from ratting alone isn't that difficult at all, just takes a few hours a day. Seeing as a battleship costs 110 million (usually less, down to about 55 million depending on type) unfitted, 3 days can pay for a battleship with t1 fittings without much effort. t2 fittings will bring the price up a lot, but still within reason. Especially because unless you are a fool, you are insuring your ship with platinum, which will pay out basically the entire cost of the ship. So, pretty much if you lose your ship (BS or less in value, I'm not talking cap ships) you're only losing 50 million at most with named t1 fittings.
Also, new players can make a difference on their first day if they choose. Granted, it helps to be in a 0.0 corp on your first day, but you can still be useful in lowsec ganking no matter what, as a frigate tackler. It's not like if you aren't a 20 million SP player, nobody will want you in a gang with them. Even the 900k SP player on his first day is useful and can turn the tide of a small fight.
One of the best things about EVE is that you make a difference and can feel part of the game right away as supposed to needing to grind forever to do anything worthwhile. That, and you die a lot, and you do actually lose something, even if its minimal as far as time goes. Never being safe anywhere is fun, and keeps it from becoming monotonous.
The whole mess now is pretty bad. I'm in one of the corps involved on the non-CCP side, and we've been battling BoB for a while now. The problem isn't so much that we think BoB is cheating, because we knew the developers were doing that for a while now, the problem is that CCP will cover it up and BoB doesn't even bother to hide the fact anymore. And the cheating (or if not cheating, curious indescretions) is/are getting more blatant and obvious. The t2 BPO rigging wasn't out in the open, but the GM joining DS1 and making himself a director for no apparent reason, and deleting all the questions as to why is offputting to say the least. The guy getting fired because BoB wanted to show off how connected they were is awful.
Possibly the worst one of all is the RP rigging. Lots and lots of people don't play in 0.0, they play in empire. I don't think I could handle spending any time in empire besides occasionally buying stuff on the cheap or ganking something, but for the large number of players that do, I think RP is pretty important to them. A lot of people don't care what happens in 0.0, but they've now crapped on everyone.
The whole thing is depressing.
Dude, if you think sucking people's blood and porn are related you should probably seek some professional help. Or at the very least a colour chart.
Hi!!
Welcome to the internet, the information superhighway where you can find anything and everything, including porn related to anything and everything!!
You should get +100000 Interesting because you're sooooo enlightened that you can point out criticism of Microsoft on Slashdot. After all, it's cool to like Microsoft now because you're going against the grain, you super-elite contrarian, you. You're just way too cool to like the iPod, because enough people like it that it's no longer esoteric and niche enough for you to enjoy it yourself.
See, now you're just being overly critical of the whole situation.
Obviously, many of them are killer training programs, or murder simulators. Video "games" my ass!! We are training our children to become hardened murders who have no sense of human rights.
If you disagree with this statement, I'll fucking kill you.
Sincerely,
-Jack Thompson
But if you think that's relevant, how about pedophiles - should they be forced to abstain from practising their sexual preferences (in a consensual way of course) because of society's disapproval?
Should a Pedophile Guild be allowed?
Uhhhh...of course they should be forced to abstain from practicing! There is no consensual way to practice pedophilia, unless you're talking about role-playing with another adult. A child doesn't have the mental capacity to consent to that sort of thing, as they don't understand the actions and the rammifications of said actions.
Perhaps I was missing a sarcastic point you were making, in which case I apologize.
Didn't IBM come out with the same thing either first or shortly after the powerbooks did?
I remember a bunch of stupid commercials with the guys at a lunch counter and the one dude drops the laptop that turns out not to be the one with the motion sensor in it.
-stefan
What is it doing that is malicious?
Spyware, sure, but not malware.
-stefan
Actually, being a former hockey player, my muscles are pretty much always doing that; I still tend to walk with my feet like this: \ /
I also play hockey, and I can kinda vouch for that. I'm not sure I so much walk with my feet in a V, but I can say that I no longer notice a difference after I take my skates off. I think once you build up those muscle groups, your feelings adjust more quickly. Playing 3-5 times a week gets your leg muscles built up in a hurry!
I don't read Indymedia ever, but what's wrong with al-Jazeera? They're certainly a legitimate news source. Sometimes they're biased, but who isn't? They're at least as fair and balanced as Fox News. Perhaps they go over the top with sensationalistic stuff, and other things, but it is interesting to hear viewpoints from "the other side." I don't always agree with them, but it's interesting to see what they have to say about some events.
I suggest reading their english news site for a while. It's really not that bad.
Thanks, that's enlightening. I figured there was some good reason why that silly argument I thought of wouldn't work, but I wasn't sure what it was.
If it was that simple, you'd think they could have said it at least once in the summary.
Lazy friggen editors!
Again playing devil's advocate here - Would a private contract limiting freedom of speech be considered breaking a law, even though the first amendment is not a law exactly?
I understand that the worm will start on January 5th, but you'd think they could at least give you a reason why they picked January 5th!
Not that I think this is a valid argument, but one might look at it as Congress made a law allowing private establishments to dictate their own rules on free speech. Could this be thought of as making a law abridging the freedom of speech?
As I said, I don't think it's a valid argument, but what would be said if that was argued?
perhaps my counting is wrong, but I'm pretty sure it would only open up 26...
That's pretty broad. Most people fit #3, and I think you could count on a single hand the number of people in the world who don't fit #4. Who is never irritable??
With those two hit by most of the population, I would think the number of people that grab a random one of the rest are pretty high, especially with #1 being as vague as it is.
I think the "worst" of those are probably #5 and #7. Then again, you might not have explained the criteria to meet one, such as how irratable someone is, etc...
Meh.
-stefan
You need to factor in "Rape Face" Captain America!!
Note: I didn't make the images (I'm not that talented)
Have you ever looked at the back of a $20 dollar bill??
On Weed????
I'm from the area, so I found the Road America one interesting. It's pretty funny that the red thing for Road America is nowhere near the track.
r t+Lake,+WI+53020&ll=43.796128,-87.989845&spn=0.088 921,0.137501&t=k&hl=en
This is the best shot I could find for the track:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=N7390+Hwy+67,+Elkha
This data must be really really old too - I grew up in Plymouth, the city just to the south of the track. It seems to be about half the size it is now - There is virtually no development between E and Hwy 57 in that shot, and it's pretty built up now. I'm guessing that's from at least 1992 or earlier even. Kinda interesting.
In Soviet Russia, tired overused joke sick of seeing YOU
You can thank people from out of state for that. The bulk of the arrests are people from Minnesota or other states - the people actually living here did very little of the damage.
I managed to avoid the riots this year but got caught up in them the year before trying to get away. Not a lot of fun.
I feel sorry for mister asdf@asdf.com as I use him for all my registrations.
True, but people on fark actually read the links.
Thank goodness for me that I use "MyMotherInLawJumpedOverTheMoon" on my account...