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Dilbert Readers Rat Out Some Weasels

colinmc151 writes "Well, Dilbert's Way of the Weasel Poll Results are in, with 35,874 people voting. Weaseliest Organization was won by the Recording Industry Association of America. Weaseliest Company was won by Microsoft. The Weaseliest Individual award was won by George W. Bush. Weaseliest Profession went to Politicians. Weaseliest Country went to France. Weaseliest Behavior was 'Blaming fast food restaurants for making you fat.' Congratulations to all the deserving winners."

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  1. but France was right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful


    they knew the war was a fake and they stuck to their stance while UK/USA continue to evade and dodge the truth

    id say France was far from being the weasalist country, but making it the USA or UK would be un-patriotic right ?

    1. Re:but France was right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      /ducks: Why do you hate America?

      America is becoming a pariah state, bud. Try to find people who will say they appreciate the US in Chile, Argentina, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Indonesia, Iran, and any of the other countries that the US has invaded or abused local power for its procurement of cheap resources. As America slides into bankruptcy and moves towards becoming a police state, it sets an example for countries on how not to behave.

      America: the state that could have been good and decent, but chose in childhood to become a bully stealing other kid's candy. A bad-ass weasle.

    2. Re:but France was right by ozborn · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Talked politics with some French people last week and they pointed out (quite correctly) that the main reason France is not going to war for the same is the same reason the US did. Oil. People can pretend to asscribe humanitarian motivations to either government, but I would argue a quick look at the historical record shows that humanitarian reasons have more to do with covering self-interest than genunine political belief.

    3. Re:but France was right by denks · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Interesting. America supported 30 of those 40 years of misery caused by a total madman but you seem to have forgotten that. Donald Rumsfeld was over in Iraq shaking Saddams hands at the same time he was gassing the Kurds. And who were the Americans actively supporting in the Iraq - Iran war?
      Now they dont have to worry about Saddam, they only have to worry about getting shot by trigger happy US troops at checkpoints who were too stupid to put up stop signs in Arabic.
      So keep on bashing the french, after all you have such a moral high ground to look down from.

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    4. Re:but France was right by bobobobo · · Score: 2, Insightful
      The arguement isn't about defending Saddam Hussein. It's that we did the right thing for the wrong reasons. It's getting pretty tiresome listening to people go on and on about what a brutal dictator Saddam was. Yet turn a blind eye to other brutal regimes, committing hideous atrocities.

      Granted Iraq's resources(the oil) are going to come into play. On both sides, we're only there for the oil/we don't want a madman in power with that much resource at his disposal. Freeing the people and bringing them justice was at best a secondary or tertiary reason for our involvement in the region.

    5. Re:but France was right by rossz · · Score: 2, Insightful

      We don't actually need Iraq's oil. Supplies from other sources are moving along just fine. However, I will not completely discount oil as a reason.

      If we can turn Iraq into a friend (and I hope we do), we suddenly have access to vast oil resources. No, I don't mean we take it. We buy it from Iraq at a fair price. They need the money. If we get Iraqi oil, we can tell Saudi Arabia to go fuck themselves. Now there's a country I'd like to see us invade. The Saudi Royal Family is the #1 supporter of terrorist organizations in the entire world. But we don't need to invade them. If we stop buying their oil, we can bankrupt their sorry asses. We just have to make sure the French don't to try to interfere (as is typical of them).

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    6. Re:but France was right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      ...wmd programs have been found...

      Nice hedge. I like the programs part. I didn't think anyone disagreed with that point, seeing as how the US sold the chemical precursors to Iraq in the Eighties, and how we destroyed so many weapons created by those programs after the first Gulf War.

      (A long list of countries have similar research progams, with that list headed by the United States. In fact, I live fairly close to the United States' largest stockpile of chemical weapons.)

      Conspicuously absent, however, are actual Iraqi chemical, biological, or nuclear weapons.

      Oddly, no amount of the Bush Administration really really wanting to find programs actively producing weapons has made either such programs or weapons appear. In the United States many people believe that saying something often enough or shrilly enough will make it true, but to date that just hasn't made these weapons exist...weird ain't it?

      Right now informed speculation suggests that any remaining chemical or biological programs were continued just as low-key research projects, maybe as a hedge against future usefulness. Underscoring that hedge, however, is the realization that these weapons were unlikely to ever be vary useful to Saddam, since their application to hostilities would have almost certainly resulted in the regime being crushed by foreign powers.

      As for the terrorism links, even the administration has, reluctantly, agreed there aren't any. Which is entirely consistent with the logic that islamic extremist terrorists hated Saddam (who was fairly secular) almost every bit as much as they hated the US. Oh well, most Americans still believe the 9/11 terrorists were linked to Iraq...maybe that's because most Americans assume that we wouldn't have gone to war without good justification, or maybe it's because the Liberal Media Conspiracy is asleep at the wheel on this one?

      What's really weird to me is that we're basing a policy of preemptive wars on our intelligience apparatus, which so far seems less than reliable...either that or our political leadership is lying through their teeth to justify, after the fact, in any way possible, a war that for reasons unrelated to terrorists, WMDs, etc, that for years it hasn't been shy about wanting to wage. Of course, I'm certainly not so cynical to believe that our political leadership would ever lie, distort the truth, or put up blinders to further its ideology!

      Exercises for readers (be sure to cite your examples and/or evidence):

      * What is today's reason we invaded Iraq?

      * Did that justification exist before invading?

      * Is this justification applied consistently to other countries?

      * Which country should we have invaded if it were applied consistently to other nations?

      * Does preemptively invading various countries make us safer?

      * How about safer from terrorists?

      * Does such an invasion enhance our international reputation and standing?

    7. Re:but France was right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Right. Here's how it worked:

      The neoconservatives in the administration really wanted to invad Iraq, and had wanted to for a long time (there's no big secret there). Then finally a President comes in to office, and drags a boatload of neocons with him. Perfect!

      Except for the question of how to convince the public to go to war?? Answer: float as many different half baked reasons, insinuations, and assorted propoganda until people start saying that one of them is less nutty and more believable than the others. Bingo! Jackpot!

      Of course the neocons didn't need to kid themselves. Paul Wolfowitz even basically admitted WMDs were just an expedient. He was quoted in Vanity Fair magazine, "For bureaucratic reasons, we settled on one issue, weapons of mass destruction, because it was the one reason everyone could agree on."

      So, yes, the WMDs became the reason. They were happy that everyone else was happy (well, not everyone), and the invasion commenced. Unfortunately the WoMDs didn't turn up, so now the administration is backpedaling, trying to come up with some other justification. They tested the waters with various justifications beforehand, and we all played along with their convenient fiction. Now their bluff has been called, but they can't retroactively change the rules...and "because we wanted to" still doesn't fly.

      So now we're left with the real question: why did we really invade Iraq?

    8. Re:but France was right by hughk · · Score: 3, Insightful
      The reasons I heard were:

      Saddam supported Osama bin Laden

      Total nonsense. Before GW2, Saddam and Osmama hated each other about as much as the americans. Maybe there is cooperation now, but definitely not before the war (they were from rival Islamic sects).

      WMD

      What about the weapons of mass destruction?

      Oh, after that they started saying that he wasn't a nice chap (true), but that didn't stop Rummy from doing business with him in the past. Can you blame people for remind Bush and Blair about the reasons they quoted for going to war?

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    9. Re: but France was right by Black+Parrot · · Score: 2, Insightful


      > We don't actually need Iraq's oil. Supplies from other sources are moving along just fine. However, I will not completely discount oil as a reason.

      The war wasn't fought so US citizens could have the Iraqi oil.

      It was fought so US companies could have the Iraqi oil distribution contracts.

      The oil barons running the Bush Administration don't have the slighest interest in the well-being of US citizens. US taxpayers, and the blood of US National Guardsmen and of Iraqi soldiers and citizens, are subsidizing the US corporate takeover of Iraq.

      Remember, that $87,000,000,000 is coming straight out of US taxpayers' empty pockets, is already the second installment, and you can bet is only designed to last through the 2004 elections. (Whereupon there will be another request of similar size. Bookmark this and make yourself a note to re-read it in December 2004.) Meanwhile Haliburton rakes in the dough, as will the US energy companies if Rumsfeld can ever scratch up enough Guardsmen to guard every square inch of the Iraqi petrol infrastructure.

      The medium-term outcome is 99% predictable: after another year or two, when the sabatage doesn't stop and the profits don't materialize, the energy companies will lose interest, the Bush Administration will lose interest in paying the political cost for no benefit, and the USA will be out of there faster than you can say 'Viet Nam', 'Lebanon', or 'Somalia', with many pompous speeches congratulating the new Iraqi government on their new-found freedom and independence... almost at the same time they flee their own country. Then after a bloody civil war there will be three mini-Iraqs, and if we're lucky one of them won't have an anti-West regime.

      Or maybe only a single Iraq, with a regime just as repressive as the last one, a sense of victory over the West, and no inhibitions about dealing with anti-West terrorists.

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    10. Re: but France was right by Black+Parrot · · Score: 4, Interesting


      > The US went to war for many reasons. Go back and read some of the very early speaches on Iraq. What happened was the media picked up on WMD because it was a buzz word and a new one that hadn't grown stale yet. So the result of all this was whenever the president or someone spoke of the othe reasons, the press did the media equivilent of "Yes yes, but what about the WMDs?"

      Those early speeches are what convinced some of us that the war was an evil venture in the first place. The Bush Administration never made a case for the war. They went to the US Congress and tried to shame them into supporting it by saying that the UN would if they didn't. Then they went to the UN and tried to shame them into it by saying the US would if they didn't. They went to the UN to "make the case" and got laughed at. Basically all they ever did was say whatever they thought would push the best buttons in the current context. And whenever anyone actually called them out on it and said, "you didn't make the case", they would reply "we'll make the case when the time is right".

      And though much has been made of the fact that all the alarmism has turned out to be false, it was abundantly clear that the alarmism wasn't well supported even before the shooting started. If you got your news anywhere other than FAUX, you heard over an over again "The Bush Administration said today 'xyz'", followed by "our contacts in the intelligence community say that the evidence for 'xyz' is not reliable".

      And just a couple of weeks ago, even after the White House had formally acknowledged that there were no terrorist connections with the Hussein regime, Mr. Bush still couldn't resist trying to push that button in his speech to the UN.

      > What happened was the media picked up on WMD because it was a buzz word and a new one that hadn't grown stale yet. So the result of all this was whenever the president or someone spoke of the othe reasons, the press did the media equivilent of "Yes yes, but what about the WMDs?"

      That is historical revisionism, pure and simple. While the Bush Administration was all over the map trying to find buttons to push, WMD and (the also non-existent) ties to al-Q were the boogeymen that they invoked most often to marshal public support in the USA. We were terrified with WMD before, during, and after the war. Hardly a day went by without the 'discovery' of a lab, factory, or cache, that had to be retracted a week later. The Administration made a big issue of the capture of a stash of chemical warfare suits... and then the news would cut to a scene of US soldiers training on the use of similar suits. The spin control was absolutely sickening.

      And they haven't given it up yet; they tried like hell to spin the recent inspection report as a 'win' for the anti-WMD motivation - never mind the fact that the report was mostly empty spin to begin with.

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    11. Re:but France was right by glesga_kiss · · Score: 3, Insightful
      id say France was far from being the weasalist country, but making it the USA or UK would be un-patriotic right ?

      Why do you hate America?

      Actually, it sounds to me like he loves America, or what it used to stand for. You know, the days when democracy was still around, and it was understood that free speach, differing opinions and even unpopular speach were essential to democracy.

      Now it's all heil to the chief. Heil Bush!!

      The villification of France in the leadup to this "war" (armed robbery more like) had to be one of the scariest changes in the modern US. It's like you've thrown everything the founding fathers put together all away in a wash of deliberately misdirected patriotism.

    12. Re:but France was right by BugMaster+ChuckyD · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Are you serious? Its "The Media's" fault for emphasising the WMD issue. Sorry but it was the Bush Administration who emphasised WMDs time and time again. As it turns out they didn't know what they were talking about.

      Now its true that "The Media" just took what ever Bush said at face value and never questioned any of his claims, but this tired old media bashing just won't protect Bush from responisbility for this gargantuan fuck up.

    13. Re:but France was right by Doomdark · · Score: 2, Insightful
      media picked up on WMD because it was a buzz word and a new one that

      No, no and no. Bush specifically emphasised WMDs because:

      • None of the other reasons had enough credibility (like terrorist links that even Bush admins considered weak enough not to stress, just imply there's some connection, sneakily implying even 9/11 was "somehow" linked)
      • Other powers (Russia, China, UK, France) consider nuclear power capability as common threat, and thus if threat was credible, they might have let US get its way.

      To think that media "created" WMD hysteria is just plain incorrect. It certainly echoed Bush's message about Saddam with WMDs, up to and including taunting other world leaders for not immediately buying the proof (those vague satellite images shown in UN, for example); assuming proof was really convincing, as opposed to being based more on suspicion than real current intelligence material... but didn't create it. Don't give news too much credit here.

      What really was strange was that even SNL started cracking jokes about Hans Blix not finding his own butt.... looking back, that looks embarrassing. Even with 200.000+ army, no WMDs have been uncovered, so chances of anyone finding them back then must have been very slim.

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    14. Re:but France was right by RemoteRabbit · · Score: 2, Insightful


      Better a French Man than a Hench Man.

      Tis also better to french kiss than ass Kiss.

      read http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,103 6571,00.html for an ex UK ministers insider view.

  2. ACLU is Weasly? by darkfnord23 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How did the ACLU end up more weasly than the GOP? Shows who reads dilbert I guess. Matt

    1. Re:ACLU is Weasly? by craw · · Score: 4, Informative

      Um, the ACLU does have an agenda, the protection of individual rights and liberties granted to Americans by the Constitution. These are not conservative nor liberal protection or a political agenda. They are just Constitution rights.

      The ACLU does not care if you are gay, black, white, poor, rich, or a member of the KKK (remember Skokie, IL?). All Americans are equally protected by the Constitution

    2. Re:ACLU is Weasly? by syrinx · · Score: 2, Insightful

      um, because the ACLU *is* an extremely weasely organization?

      not that the GOP isn't, of course, but don't go around acting like the ACLU isn't guilty, guilty, guilty.

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    3. Re:ACLU is Weasly? by rco3 · · Score: 4, Funny

      For a while, I've really been concerned about the falling quality of trolls here on Slashdot. Then along comes [parent], and restores my faith in trolldom.

      See, kiddies, this is how you troll. Keen. Subtle. I'm especially fond of the way that the AC doesn't explicitly call Fox News unbiased, unclouded - but he implies the hell out of it. He shows you the troll, but doesn't let you touch it. Kinda like MJ in his prime.

      To frost this cake, he throws in a couple of mild insults in. Not weak enough to ignore, but he's not abusing the 7 famous wordy-dirds. It bypasses your builtin four-letter discrimination routines and actually feels like he might mean it! You can't ignore it! He means it! Meanwhile, you're so browned off you slide right past the logical flaws and attack the red cape. Ole!

      He waves the red cape some more; you lumber around chasing it, eventually tire, and it's over. YHBT.

      I salute you, AC. We need more with your skills.

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    4. Re:ACLU is Weasly? by Cat_Byte · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm right wing and I find FoxNews offensive, one sided, yellow-journalistic, terd-wipes. Any station that can hire Geraldo and use him for news while he quotes & interviews editors from The National Enquiror...well...you draw your own conclusions. Left wing == tree-hugger who don't know what kind of tree they're hugging. Most of them interviewed think food comes from the supermarket or farmers need laws to tell them how to maintain their land (even tho they did a damn good job since the 1500's).

      I'm not sure I see the point to your post. I'm right wing...I'm offended by the left wing extremism of that station and the pure bias on each & every one of their stories.

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  3. Headline from the Zoo: by Eberlin · · Score: 5, Funny

    Weasels in local zoos began protesting after slanderous survey compared them to the likes of Microsoft, GW-Bush, and the RIAA.

    One outraged animal was quoted as saying "enough's enough, man! We've been portrayed negatively throughout history but this is pretty low."

  4. At last... by lurker412 · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...election results that I can finally feel good about. I live in California and I had been wondering why I always thought democracy was a good idea.

  5. Contradictory by phorm · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Indeed, how can they label Bush as a known weasel, thus indicating his "war on terrorism" is at least in great part a sham, and still bash the french?

    I'm assuming that it's a statement apart from current war-related issues, since the french were often bashed before anyhow.

    1. Re:Contradictory by cperciva · · Score: 3, Funny

      Well, the USA came in close second on the "weasely countries" list; I imagine that Jacques Chirac would have garnered more votes if many Americans had been able to recognize his name.

    2. Re:Contradictory by deviator · · Score: 2, Funny

      it shows that this is an objective, non-biased, politically neutral survey free from outside influence.

      I tend to agree with _all_ of the results.

    3. Re:Contradictory by pipingguy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, the USA came in close second on the "weasely countries" list; I imagine that Jacques Chirac would have garnered more votes if many Americans had been able to recognize his name.

      This is because most Americans think "Blaque Jacques Shellac" when they hear the French leader's name. Blaque Jacques doesn't have nearly enough web presence. Bugs Bunny rules!

    4. Re:Contradictory by jpu8086 · · Score: 3, Funny

      California doesn't have a direct democracy. No form of state gov't follows a direct democracy in the United States. We are republic. Both at the federal level and state level. So it's not entirely that bad.

      However, the recall was direct. And, that truly is sad.

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    5. Re:Contradictory by marko123 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Very amusing that not many around here talk about WHY the french actually took their position.

      Namely, they have strong trade links with Iraq (so does Russia) and the middle east, and knew that the US where going to destroy the country and rebuild it with their own corporations and chosen leaders, thus winning trade.

      Australia used to have strong trade links, as well ($800mil/year wheat). I think our leader knew that even if he couldn't continue to trade with Iraq, he hoped to get better agricultural trade concessions with the states (he didn't read enough history books). Now, we can't even sell a sheep in Saudi Arabia (let alone 50000), even though the quality of our meat is quite good.

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    6. Re:Contradictory by xutopia · · Score: 3, Insightful
      "Namely, they (the French)have strong trade links with Iraq". Who didn't? Certainly not the US! I'll recall that outside of the US we have seen video recordings of Donald Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam Hussein before sitting down to discuss "business".

      Is this compromising for the US? NO! Why should it be for the French?

    7. Re: Contradictory by Black+Parrot · · Score: 2, Insightful


      > The war is a good idea, but for human rights -- not any threat Saddam may or may not have been to us.

      a) are the Iraqis (in general) actually any better off now than they were under Saddam?

      b) will they be better off than they were under Saddam a year after the US occupation ends?

      c) does the same justification apply to Libera, the Congo, the USA, etc?

      I do pity the Iraqis who suffered under Saddam and his cronies, but I fear we've done them a great harm under a false pretext. After they've suffered a US invasion, a resistance movement to the US occupation, and a civil war when ever the US finally pulls out, do you really suppose they'll be sending us a thank-you note?

      > The French, taking an annoyingly self-gratifying position, opposed the whole war just because they opposed Bush. Around these parts, that's called asshat.

      Maybe they, like lots of Americans, just opposed the war because they thought Bush was being the asshat?

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    8. Re:Contradictory by Skye16 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Problem is, while revenues go up, spending goes through the roof. Most of it spent on the Defense budget. And for all the missiles and planes and nukes we have, how did that protect us in any way from the happenings of 9/11? How will having the best armed forces in the world save us from a dirty bomb smuggled in in the back of a Volvo? Maybe spending 300 billion a year on building new and improved weapons isn't the right course. Maybe more training for our current police officers. Maybe more police in general. Maybe more firemen and paramedics. And maybe we should be spending a bunch of that money on whole hell of a lot of international PR. Maybe we should take a page from the corporate playbook and start winning countries over with words, not ridiculous macho catch phrases and the stereotypical jock-bully approach. Maybe.

      Just a thought.

      Besides, numbers rarely mean anything in and of themselves. I'm sure for every fact and figure you find to prove your point (or disprove someone elses), more facts and figures can be used to illustrate your adversary's point and disprove your own.

    9. Re:Contradictory by Skye16 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well, according to what I could find on Google (on an admittedly non-intensive search), Bush asked for 399 billion for 2004's federal budget. If you are right (and I have no reason to doubt you) and our budget is currently nearing 2.2 trillion dollars, we're still looking at spending almost 1/4 of our budget on new bombs, planes and all sorts of neato stuff (which probably have no chance of helping us during a terrorist attack, which is the sore point - at least to me). And all of this isn't even counting the cost of the war in Iraq.

      I'm not really trying to say anyone is right or wrong, here. If I knew "the answer", I wouldn't be wasting my time posting on Slashdot - I'd be trying to fix it. But the truth is, I don't know and neither does anyone else, for that matter. But it does strike me as odd that we're currently "at war" against "terrorism" (and who knows what that even means anymore? It seems to be changed to fit anything we don't like anymore...) and we're spending next-to-nothing on defending ourselves. Everyone claims that "this isn't like a normal war" - and I agree - but if that's so, why are we trying to fight it as if it were one? I don't think a new and improved bunker buster is going to kill fanatical ideas anymore than I think I have a chance of becoming president someday.

      Source of my Defense Budget Figure: http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0203/020303cd2.htm

    10. Re:Contradictory by chefren · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This is nothing compared to the psychological need of the US to be the leader of the world. Perhaps this is why anti-Americanism (some call it evil) exists in the first place.

    11. Re:Contradictory by IndependentVik · · Score: 2, Informative

      I am willing to sacrifice things like welfare, social security . . .

      It's not exactly sacrifice on your part if you aren't currently using either of those two programs (which I assume you aren't, since you're willing to see them cut).

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    12. Re:Contradictory by GooberToo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Absolutely no idea why this was rated insightful.

      Simple fact is, the US is pretty much the leader of the world. No so much that what the US states becomes reality, but rather, most anything the US does creates ripples felt around the world. In some countries, the sphere of influence is lessor while others, it's felt like an earthquake. Nonetheless, the influenece is real.

      Top that off that no matter what the US does, we will always be flogged in world opinion in some part of the world. Always! Much of the world wants us to stabilize their region of the world. Others want the instability (and lack of US involvment) because it further's their own political goals. So basically, if we do something, we're evil and if we don't, we're evil again. Likewise, most of these countries are happy to accept millions and billion from the US while teaching ignorance and stupidity to their people. Look, the US is evil...shhhh...don't mention that they just fed your family.

      This really isn't about, "psychological need of the US to be the leader of the world", which IMO, doesn't exist. Rather, it's about the world's expectations of, "the US to be the leader of the world" and damning us for not meeting their expectations, no matter which side of the coin your on.

      How those expectations play out on the world stage is what we all call politics and spin. It's just a matter of whos BS you're willing to buy into, and allow your expectations to be set accordingly.

    13. Re:Contradictory by GooberToo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Because the UN is impotent. They have been so for almost a decade now. Don't believe me? Go look up some history. They basically function as an inspection group and human rights auditors. They have no real power any more. Even a tiny country like Iraq laughed at them. So does most of the world. If you think the UN has any real power, aside from what the US grants it, other than figuring out what to order for lunch, you're kidding your self.

      Fun and silly example to lighten the mood:
      (robber running from jewlery store with stolen goods)

      UN: Stop! Or I'll say stop again!

      Robber: LOL!
      (Runs into bank while shooting and shooting at US soldiers)

      UN: Stop! Or I'll say stop again!

      Robber: LOL!
      (Robber leaves bank with stolen cash)

      UN: Fine! We have you know, we have this paper that says you have to stop!

      Robber: LOL!

      UN: Fine! We have you this time, we have this paper that says you have to stop, NOW! That means we have two pieces of paper that says you have to stop!

      U.S.: We're tired of playing this game.
      (US Solder blows the head off of robber)

      U.N.: See! I told you we have this paper!

      France: NO!!!!! He owed us money!

      Russia: But we wanted to sale weapons for the stolen cash and goods.

      In a nut shell, the U.N. truly is a step away from becoming the next League of Nations. If you think the U.N. has any significant power beyond what the US grants it, I think you need to go do some more reading of history.

      I always find it sad to see people bash the though of democracy at nation level.

      I have no idea what that means or how it applies to what I've stated.

  6. Re:List looks about right to me. by Sevn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well lets see, if 35,000 internet users isn't significant, then I guess the 921 likely voters with the Zogby International America Poll that gave him a 49 percent approval rating, or the 900 registered voters in the Fox poll that gave him a 52 percent approval rating, or the 1000 people in the ABC News and Washington Post polls that gave him a 53 percent approval rating matter even less? Funny you should pick the Fox numbers. That's very telling. Feel stupid yet?

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  7. Re:Weasliest? by spoco2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Or... considering it's a HUMOUR(yes, that's how we spell it in Australia) site... maybe it's just a bit of FUN?

    Geeze, calm down.

  8. Missing Option by DaveAtFraud · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I e-mailed Scott with a late nomination of SCO as the weaseliest company and Darl McBride as thw weaseliest induhvidual but apparently nominations were closed for this year.

    Oh well, there's always next year. And at the rate the various cases are dragging out, the year after that, and the year after that, ...

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  9. Re:BITCHES.. ALL OF THEM by akedia · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well you can either get a handgun and murder them mid-coitus or you can take pictures and post them here.

    No, wait, do both!

  10. Re:fattest nation on earth is USA by Motherfucking+Shit · · Score: 5, Insightful
    but OH NO fast food has NOTHING to do with it, right ?
    Nobody's saying that fast food has nothing to do with it.

    If I get a Bacon Double Whopper with king-sized fries for lunch every day, I KNOW I'm going to get fat. It's not Burger King's fault, for god's sake. If I go to the bar and order 5 shots of tequila, I KNOW I'm going to get drunk. When I miss work the following day from being hung over, should the bar be held liable?

    Fast food isn't healthy. I knew this when I was, like, 10 years old. How is it that some guy in his 30's just wakes up one day after a lifetime of Big Macs and decides "gee, it must be that evil McDonalds conspiracy to make me gain weight..." Fast food restaurants are in business to do one thing, and that's sell food. If you come inside with money, they're going to give you some food in return. How is this wrong?

    I guess I must have missed the fraudulent ad campaigns that White Castle put out about "eat our burgers 3 times a day and you'll look like Kate Moss." [Subway and Jared are getting borderline here, but it's supposedly a true story, and I imagine they'd have been whacked by the FTC if it weren't. I also imagine that Jared did a shitload of exercising that they neglect to mention in their commercials. Whatever; the guy didn't sue Subway.]

    People need to take some fucking responsibility for their own actions and their own meals.

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  11. The GOP Vote Was Split by Farley+Mullet · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Another respondant noted that if you add Fox News and the Republicans together, you'd end up in the #3 spot. However, if you add the votes for the Republican-controlled White House and Congress together with the votes for the GOP, you get an astounding 11190 votes, fully 3240 more votes than the RIAA.

  12. Re:Weasliest? by Roofus · · Score: 2, Funny

    Pot Kettle you say? Perhaps.. but drugs can also be the answer.

    So can masturbation, which I'm sure many in this crowd are familiar with!

  13. Re:SCO. by ajensen · · Score: 2, Insightful
    That's how comics are sometimes. Funny one day, lame or senseless the next.

    But at least the attempt was made -- and it gave you something to whine or laugh about.

    -a

  14. Re:France by Manko · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yup, that anit-French propaganda works a treat there in the States, don't it? Luckily the rest of us in the free world can still form an opinion...

  15. Re:BITCHES.. ALL OF THEM by interociter · · Score: 2, Funny
    You mean you had sex with an actual girl within the last week, and you're complaining about it on Slashdot? For those of us who almost never get our kernels recompiled, forgive me if I'm less than sypathetic.

    On the other hand, you could extract revenge. Go out to the 24-hour drugstore right now and buy a big tube of Kwell. Open it and leave it on the bathroom counter. For the next few weeks, scratch yourself constantly whenever either one of them is around. For bonus points, scream every time you pee. Explain nothing.

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  16. Weasliest behavior? Why, it's the AC! by Call+Me+Black+Cloud · · Score: 2, Insightful


    Nothing says "weasel" more than being AC. Unless your name is "Bob Smith" and your slashdot user id is "BobSmith", AC really has no benefit.

    I especially love getting a passionate response on some topic from an AC. "I feel so strongly about this topic that I'm not even going to tell you my fake name I use on slashdot."

    Yes, for true weaseliness you can't beat AC.

  17. Re:What about Second Amendment rights? by de+Selby · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If the NRA didn't exist, I suppose they'd take it up. But since the NRA does exist and holds HUGE weight and power, what's the point?

  18. Re:Wow by DoraLives · · Score: 4, Funny
    Holy cow! You're not even there yet and you're already laying a weasly defensive strategy.

    You've got the slime all over you so I'm guessing you'll go far in your intended career.

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  19. Re:I can't say I am surprised.... by merdark · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Except that when people are forced (yes, like you have a choice) to work 40+ hours a week they likely become tons less effecient and the added stress gives all sorts of health problems.

    Of course, I guess in the US no one can afford health care, so the health problems probably dont' affect your economy at all. At any rate, I'd sooner live free in france then as a slave to the US government and corporations. Hell, if I had a choice, I'd even learn french!

  20. NAMBLA by LenE · · Score: 2, Interesting

    And trying to derail the California recall that was prescribed by the state constitution. They are supposed to be non-partisan, but aren't.

    ACLU has unfortunately become a whole den of weasels.

    -- Len

  21. Re:France by gomoX · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Too bad you think countries should know a lot about winning wars.

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  22. Re: A theory on catching Bin Laden by Black+Parrot · · Score: 3, Insightful


    > As for Bin Laden, I'm sure that with the billions of taxpayer dollars we give the Military Industrial Complex each year, we are only days from finding a man in a cave, and another one on the run in Iraq.

    Pardon my cynicism, but I suspect he's not being caught so that the Bush Administration will have a boogeyman to scare domestic audiences with.

    Saddam's probably vacationing in the Bahamas while the US military pretends to look for him.

    (Sigh.... Before Bush got appointed I used to laugh at conspiracy theorists.)

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  23. Re:come on, ./ editors. pay attention by WNight · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why can't people accept that Dubya *is* a weasel? It's pretty much fact, he can't even come up with a consistent lie and keeps changing his story on terrorism as it justifies some new goal.

    I'm pro-invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan. They're better off under military occupation than with the dictators they had. That doesn't mean I have to think Dubya did it for the right reasons. I think they should shoot Osama, but I think Ashcroft is a dangerous McCarthy wanna-be...

    You don't have to claim either of them are upstanding people just because they're in the same political party.

    Anyways, Jeffery Dahlmer could get 40% approval, regardless of party, because most of the US voters I know support their party's president blindly. It's also traditional for the US to "stand behind" a president in wartime.

  24. Re:France by Doomdark · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Hear, hear. Even if one disagrees with France's assesment of threat, it's weird that values that are so dear to most americans (integrity, standing up to what one believe's, not being pushed by bullies) are suddenly repulsive, when displayed by other nations. :-/

    Somehow it was always implied that there must be some other filthy reason for them not to be gung-ho about letting the super power go vigilante, than their general aversion to war.

    And on the other hand, few european leaders that openly supported US attack, such as Silvio Berlusconi, were portrayed as pretty much saints... ironic, considering that:

    • Berlusconi has long been claimed/suspected as being corrupt (although investigated, he hasn't been convicted), even using Italy's political standards.
    • Italy in general was (and is) very vocal against death penalty, and considers US practice barbaric... which used to strain countries' relationship prior to war.
    But I guess those leaders just knew how to play the game, and count on short memory (and lack of interest?) of US politicians, to gain some brownie points. I mean, they didn't really send much any soldiers, or do funding; words are cheap.
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  25. Re: List looks about right to me. by IM6100 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Dilbert is so old and tired, I can't help but feel that anybody who still follows that strip could spend their time in a better way.

    I used to have a boss who was into Dilbert and she had her cube all decked out with the Dilbert saying, slogans, and novelties. Know how that makes you feel? You start to feel like 'Dilbert' is a convenient scapegoat, to encourage compacency and cynicism. Sort of a 'grin and bear it' thing, when we really shouldn't necessarily just grin and bear it.

    The 'Dilbert' attitude is corrosive and cynical. We're capable of so much more. Scott Adam's jokes are all old tired cliches by this point in time.

    But he's still got money to make in the franchise.

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  26. Re:Weaseliest website? by rsfpc · · Score: 2, Funny

    He who smelt it dealt it.

  27. Re:BITCHES.. ALL OF THEM by Wingnut64 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I thought this sounded familiar...

    At least give us an original troll!

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  28. Weasel's format by Tomorrowist · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What struck me is how the options could help determine the winner. Take the top selections for weaseliest individual, for example. GW Bush won handily over Moore, Arafat, and Chirac.

    One could make three separate comparisons. 55% of the people may find Bush more of a weasel than Moore. 47% may find Bush more of a weasel than Arafat. 50% may find Bush more of a weasel than Chirac. In general, it would be the same people calling President Bush the bigger weasel in each of those comparisons; to over generalize, we can call such people liberals. Similarly, people-we-could-overgeneralize-and-call-conservati ves would always tend to defend President Bush.

    Because there is only one big name 'conservative' (Bush) drawing all the 'liberal' votes and three big name 'liberals' (Moore, Arafat, and Chirac) drawing the 'conservative' votes, the outcome is preordained: President Bush is called the biggest weasel. Or, the bigger lesson could be that 'liberals' are more focused in their accusations of weaselality.

    Granted, I've made some generalizations here. And this is a fun poll, not a national election. But my point remains. I can't get the expression 'lies, damned lies, and statistics' out of my head.

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  29. Did you really expect it to win? by devphil · · Score: 2, Interesting


    Everybody's heard of Microsoft, Dubya, France, and politicians. The tactics of the RIAA have been making mainstream press.

    SCO and Darl McBride are hardly household words in any country, and certainly not in America.

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  30. Re:France by descubes · · Score: 4, Informative

    France stood up to the Nazis when Poland was invaded.

    The precise time table is:
    Sep 1, 1939: Poland invasion
    Sep 3, 1939: France declares war to protect its ally
    Sep 5, 1939: US proclaim neutrality in the conflict

    It's not until the US were attacked themselves that they came to the rescue. Who was the weasel?

    See this page for more info.

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  31. ACLU supports Exercise of Religion by lostnihilist · · Score: 3, Informative

    agreed. Probably the most controversial (controversial insofar as it perpetrates the myth that the ACLU is 'Weasly') point brought up is that the ACLU doesn't protect the free exercise of religion. Luckily, it is also the easiest to disspell.

    1) Freedom of Religion Bill supported by the ACLU to protect the exercise of religion by individuals.
    2) ACLU helps Falwell in VA I'm sure you'll never hear about that on FOX news or Christian press. The ACLU helped the Rev. establish a church with all the rights of normal corporations, ending that form or religious discrimination.
    3) The infamous veiled photo for driver's license case The most pressed argument is of course national security. But as is easily seen if anyone bothers to RTFA, 800,000 ID's have been given without a photo, so why worry about this one with an 'incomplete' photo.
    4) The ACLU's efforts to keep government influence out of churches and in the hands of the peoples of the respective faiths
    5) Keeping religious discrimination out of Head start

    I found this in 30 seconds of searching. This doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of cases where individual's religious preferences have been protected by the ACLU. If you were to go to each state's press archives, you'd find dozens of cases where the ACLU has helped to force schools to allow students to pray. The confusion comes in because most people (and apparently alot of people on Slashdot and school administrators) are entirely incapable of distinguishing between a state actor and an individual actor. When you've learned 4th grade civics, maybe you can speech more intelligibly about civic issues.

  32. Wow! by EverDense · · Score: 3, Funny

    That's the first poll Dubya's ever won.

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  33. I'm sick of those bashing the French! by xutopia · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Whenever someone bashes the French for being arrogant I wonder who's the real culprit.

    I guess most Americans only ever saw the video of Jacques Chirac shaking hands with Saddam Hussein and never the one of Donald Rumsfeld shaking hands with the Iraqi leader.

    The French like the Americans have been in bed with Saddam Hussein at some point in time. If the French are weasels because of that, what does that make Americans? Iraq is an important country geopolitically and if any country didn't at one point have ties with it they'd be stupid not to!

    The French don't owe the US for freeing them from Nazis just like the US doesn't owe the French for their helping hand during the civil war.

    I don't understand why Americans enjoy bashing the French so much! Do you feel threathened by something they have and you don't? 5 weeks of paid vacation perhaps?

    1. Re:I'm sick of those bashing the French! by misterpies · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Paltry help? France declaring war on England prevented England from throwing all its resources into the war. Without the French navy's victory in the Chesapeake, Cornwallis would have been safe and cosy in Yorktown and would have never surrendered. Given that the population of the 13 colonies were more or less evenly split between revolutionaries and loyalists, for all we know the USA would just be part of southern Canada, with low crime and free healthcare for all. Hmmm, you're right. The Americans really should hate the French.

      But the real answer to any arguments about the French (or other Europeans) "owing" the US for WWII is this: the war finished almost 60 years ago. Yes, as a European I am grateful to your grandfathers and great-grandfathers for their help. But this is not a debt that is passed down the generations. If YOU want my gratitude, then YOU do something to deserve it.

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  34. Re:Star Jones call, she wants her hat back.... by ahillen · · Score: 2, Informative

    France was right. There was nothing in it for them. I mean aside from *ahem* managing the 40 billion dollars that was stolen from the Iraqi people, and their vastly below market value deals for Iraqi oil that they made with Hussein, known butcher.

    Yeah, right:
    CIA World Factbook about Iraq (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos /iz.html):

    Exports - commodities:
    crude oil

    Exports - partners:
    US 60.6%, France 8.5%, Netherlands 7.4%, Italy 5.8% (2001)

    Nice to see that at least the US didn't make any deals with Hussein, known butcher.

    Asshat, France and Germany could have stopped the war. Know how? Call the US's bluff. Give in to a hard line for invasive UN inspections backed up by military ultimatum.

    There were inspections. And just because they didn't find any evidence doesn't mean they were not invasive enough. I might remind you that a more than 1000 people strong inspection team by the US didn't find any evidence of WMDs in Iraq in the last months. And inspections couldn't possibly become more invasive than they are now.
    But meanwhile, of course, it's not about WMDs any more, we could have saved us all the trouble with inspections anyway. Because know the US government found out that the fact that Hussein was an evil dictator was actually reason enough.

  35. Re:come on, ./ editors. pay attention by Finuvir · · Score: 2

    I'm waiting for the part where you actually cite any evidence, any reports, anything that substantiates your wild claims. Keep modding this down please, mods.

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  36. Re:come on, ./ editors. pay attention by Black+Parrot · · Score: 2, Informative


    > Now, Iraq: Americans have killed more innocents than Hussein is said to have.

    That's almost certainly not true. I haven't heard what you're saying about the Kurds, but even if you are correct I still understand that something over 300,000 thousand Shiites were killed after the Gulf War (though that's hardly the kind of thing the USA should be eager to call attention to, seeing as it was us who stirred them up to rebellion and then sat back to watch them get slaughtered). Also, though people don't usually think of soldiers as 'innocents', I would have to say that about a million 'innocent' soldiers died as a result of Saddam's unprovoked war with Iraq. So it looks like he has at least 1.3 million inexcusable deaths on his hands, and as much misery as we've caused with our invasion, I don't think it's even within an order of magnitude of that yet. Likely not even within two orders of magnitude. (Though we should count again after the US pulls out and they're plunged into civil war.)

    OTOH, his hands have been fairly tied since the Shiite affair, and though his prison guards were surely kept busy with ill deeds, it would be interesting to know the average montly rate of death and misery he caused over the past ~10 years vs. the average montly rate since the 'end' of the US invasion.

    > Now, gas costs as much as it does in the US...

    I read somewhere a week or so ago that US taxpayers are subsidizing the sale of gasoline in Iraq to the tune of $1.75 in addition to what the Iraqis themselves are paying. (Chew on that next time you're filling up your tank or looking at how much tax was taken out of your paycheck.)

    > Kuait should be next...

    Yeah, part of the pathetic humor of the Bush claim that we were going to invade Iraq to establish democracy was that we already had Kuwait packed full of US troops, and didn't have the least inclination to bring those people the blessings of liberty.

    > I would accept that Iraq posed a danger due to powerful WMD, only they had none. They also did not have the means to deploy them if they DID have any, and they had no DESIRE to do so.

    I suspect that there was a genuine concern that Saddam would eventually obtain WMD that he could deploy against Israel, though of course the Administration could hardly come out and say they were sending US troops to die in order to make the world safe for Israel. But see the rather strange 'logic' in this interview with John McCain, where the interviewer didn't stick to the "right" questions and McCain was left groping for an explanation that justified his position without saying that. (He failed.) [Notice also the prophetic content of the first few paragraphs of that page, before it gets to the interview.]

    BTW, I suspect your post has some other substantial factual errors mixed in with the good stuff. No need to overplay the case; to those not blinded by ideology or hypnotized by FAUX News, the whole thing stinks plainly enough on the simple facts.

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  37. Another Demo of Pop Media Mind Control by ch-chuck · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A lot of these polls, just like movie Oscars etc inevitably show how people simply vote like the media advertising tells them to - a few pop stars and influential news anchors propagate their opinions and it quickly becomes common sense opinion amongst the populist crowd seeking to be with the 'in' group. While I'm often ashamed of my fellow human's lack of critical thinking, I have to remember that the average IQ is by definition 100 and most are intellectual followers of leaders.

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  38. Jared's story is true by thaddjuice · · Score: 3, Informative

    The whole thing about Jared losing all that weight eating Subway is true. I subscribe to Men's Health magazine and every month they have a feature where people write in and tell how they lost weight. Then the editors analyze the program, what's good and bad about it, and tell you how it can work for you.

    Anyway, a few years ago, Jared wrote something in a college newspaper and it got sent in to MH to tell his story. He said he liked the low fat sandwiches and so he ate them for lunch and dinner every day for a year. He didn't exercise much except for walking regularly.

    Long story short, he lost a bunch of weight, someone at Subway read the article and their PR department picked up on it and now he's famous. There's a history thingy here

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  39. Dilbert is a BSA spokesperson by qwertyatwork · · Score: 5, Informative

    Stop reading dilbert, he is a spokesperson for the B.S.A. bsa another site

  40. Iraq money can't be a loan! by JCMay · · Score: 2, Insightful

    All these people that say that Iraq should pay back the money spent in the reconstruction forget one thing: there' no Iraqi government right now that can accept the debt responsibility. As many posters here point out with regard to EULAs, without a "meeting of the minds" there can't be a contract; right now Iraq has no "mind" with which to meet.

    Where do you think the United States would be if it had been required to repay the help that France provided during the Revolutionary War, before the Articles of Confederation were ratified and the first government of the United States came into being?

    Making the Iraqi reconstruction monies a loan equals Iraq becoming a United States colony; isn't colonialization one thing we're against?

    1. Re:Iraq money can't be a loan! by Skye16 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I question the morality of making someone pay for something they didn't expressly ~ask~ for. Everyone says "hey, we shouldn't have to pay for reconstruction" but the truth is, an overwhelming amount of damage was directly caused by our actions. If it isn't our responsibility, whose is it, then?

      I always assumed this was part of the "debate" for war; ie - who pays for it? And I also assumed that, if the overwhelming majority of Americans agreed to go to war, they also agreed to foot the bill for it.

      Assuming tends to be a major pain in the ass, doesn't it?

    2. Re:Iraq money can't be a loan! by Bedouin+X · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well you also have to remember that much of the infrastructure issues were a result of Desert Storm and the sanctions that came afterward. Yeah we can argue till we're blue in the face about why these things hadn't been rebuilt in the 10+ years prior, but the bottom line is that this "New" construction is only new with respect to the way that Iraq was 8 months ago, not when the world first started dropping bombs on them.

      Whatever that's worth.

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  41. Re:Habit is not addiction by Zan+Zu+from+Eridu · · Score: 2, Informative
    You should read up about food addiction. Some food has psychoactive ingredients (called exorphins). Almost all food triggers the production of gastrointestinal peptides during digestion; dificiencies in this production (lots of endorphines) result in addictive behaviour. Addictive foods:
    Ingestion of normal food may result in information-molecules streaming into our bloodstream from stomach or small intestine with all the impact of narcotic drugs! A "Gluten Stimulatory Peptide" is also described with narcotic (opiate) antagonist properties. It has been suggested that gluten hydrolysates, digests of wheat protein, have mixed opiate agonist-antagonist activity and, like two drugs with mixed narcotic activating and blocking actions (nalorphine and cyclazocine), produce dysphoria and even psychotic symptoms. Loukas and colleagues have derived the structure of cow's milk-derived exorphins: Opioid activities and structures of casein-derived exorphins. These two peptides carry information by finding and binding to brain receptors which ordinarily respond to endorphins. The message is go to sleep, feel bad, but go back for more.
  42. Re:Weasliest behavior? Why, it's the AC! by cybercuzco · · Score: 2, Funny

    But weaseling out of things is what seperates us from the animals! ... Except for the weasel.

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  43. Re:What's wrong with France ? by CatPieMan · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Don't let anyone fool you. The French are just as bad, if not worse, to Americans as we are to them.

    (You can choose not to believe these since there is no reference, or I can quickly write up my experiences in France and link to that, it is just as valid).

    Parisians are the worst that I met, Southern France is quite nice and the people are too. But Paris, wow, they are terrible. They will run into you at full speed on roller skates and then run away.

    They also (this past summer) called a young person of asian decent a 'nigger' simply because he was an American (yes, you can tell) and dark skinned.

    Once you get outside of Paris, the people are mostly nice (there are always exceptions in every crowd and this goes both ways). My guess is that too many people only see Paris, have some bad run-ins, and assume all French are like that.

    I personally dislike the 'newspaper' le Monde (the world). On Sept 11th of this year they published a political cartoon of what looked like a 747 with "USA" on the side hitting two towers that appeared to be the WTC, the towers being labeled "Chille". That is unexcusable, at least to me.

    -CPM

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  44. Iraq has WMD. How do we know? by devphil · · Score: 2, Funny


    Because we kept the receipts.

    (Credit goes to the Onion for that one, IIRC. No, I don't actually believe Iraq has WMD these days. We know they tried to make/buy/steal them, but they failed.)

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