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Catching Up With The Rocket Guy

Jedi Holocron writes "The full article is at Space.Com and reports on the current status of Brian "Rocket Guy" Walker's home-brew space program. This is the guy who is planning to build a rocket in his backyard, funded by his toy inventions. He's scaled back from an X-Prize launch to a mere 15,000 feet with a sky-diving return. This could be the next ride installed next to Disney's Mission:Space if he has his way!!! All told he's now calling it an amateur rocket, however it doesn't look like the model rockets I remember."

105 comments

  1. another great american tragedy by sinucus · · Score: 1

    I'm sure when it blows up it will make leaps and bounds for the american space agency.

    1. Re:another great american tragedy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm going to piss myself laughing when this guy incinerates, 5000 ft above the earth.

    2. Re:another great american tragedy by teameco · · Score: 1

      Wow that takes blowing yourself up to a whole new meaning....

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  2. Some crazy ass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Chinese dude tried this centuries ago... They never did find the the body.

    Yeah, he was rich too... Rich people and their crazy ideas...
    Winning the America's Cup
    Building a rocket...

  3. Ejection System by GaelenBurns · · Score: 5, Funny

    I imagine is shooting him out of the top with a parachute on his back the way that an Estes does.

  4. It's nice to see... by r_glen · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Some people don't give up on their childhood dreams

  5. Interesting by Quasar1999 · · Score: 1

    So at what point does his 'rocket' become a mistaken intercontinental ballistc missle threat for North Korea? I just know some country will use this as an excust to test their own 'backyard rockets', only to result in accidental off course situations over japan... ;)

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    1. Re:Interesting by jd · · Score: 1, Interesting
      More importantly (for him, anyway), at what point does his rocket become a mistaken missile -from- North Korea, and get zapped by rampant psychotic anti-missile laser systems, ABM rockets and sleep-deprived USAF combat pilots?


      The expected failure rate on that system they're supposed to wheel out in a few years is going to be high. They won't have tested it, and if it's anything like the systems that shot down the Iranian airliner "by mistake", it only has to fail once for this rocket guy to skydie.

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    2. Re:Interesting by twiddlingbits · · Score: 2, Informative

      I hope you were not serious. 15,000 feet is not that high, we have mountains that high in the USA. ICBMs reenter at 200,000 feet plus and have a screamingly high velocity. Plus anyone watching on radar would see it go UP first. If he is smart enough to build it I'm sure he will notify someone he is launching it. It won't look like an ICBM -- I guarantee. (apologies to Justin Wilson) I just hope he launches it somewhere (like the middle of the desert) that whatever comes down does not hurt anyone or destroy some property, otherwise it's a cool idea! I hope he makes it!

    3. Re:Interesting by princewally · · Score: 1

      RTFA.

      The ultimate goal is to go straight up 50 miles. There are no plans for orbit, just to fulfill the childhood dream of a private citizen. Orbit requires going at least 170 miles up and going 17,000 MPH around the earth. Lots of up and lots of sideways. Going up to a straight up to a stop and dropping back down is different.

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    4. Re:Interesting by twiddlingbits · · Score: 2, Informative

      I did RTFA. I'm not worried about his FUTURE plans, that will never happen for a number of reasons. He even realizes it... When the self-made space traveler began the quest several years ago, the idea was to fly up 50 miles to the border of space. He has since stepped back from bankrolling a full-size rocket design to a more modest missile -- one that shoots to 15,000 feet. .... Walker is not gunning for the X Prize. That's the worldwide competition to hurl passengers to the edge of space and snag a $10 million purse. What appeals to Walker is building a client base of rocket riders, drawing from the skydiver community. Eventually, in step-by-step fashion, rockets toting skydivers and non-skydivers alike can be designed, built, and flown to ever-higher heights, he said. Unless he has some VERY deep pockets or some investors with them he isn't going to get 50 miles up. That requires at least two stages, serious rocket engines, real G&C, heat shield for rentry, life support, a support team, launch platform, etc. He is having fun at a high-level amateur level, but he isn't going to be making any sub-orbital flights. He is a crazy guy who is having fun, a harmless kook. He isn't the next Robert Goddard.

    5. Re:Interesting by DoraLives · · Score: 3, Insightful
      The expected failure rate on that system they're supposed to wheel out in a few years is going to be high

      Concur.

      and if it's anything like the systems that shot down the Iranian airliner "by mistake", it only has to fail once for this rocket guy to skydie.

      Count on it to fail at least twice.

      Failure number one: Mistaken identity is made, live fire at Rocket Guy.

      Failure number two: The fucking thing misses Rocket Guy cleanly and then goes on to take out a 757 minding its own business at 45,000 feet, two states over.

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    6. Re:Interesting by jd · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, your post needs to be marked +5 inevitable, and CC'ed to all airlines.

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    7. Re:Interesting by princewally · · Score: 1

      The 15000 foot rocket is designed soley to test the systems. If it works, it won't take much to scale up the rocket and he'll have the bigger one.
      You're right, he's not gunning for the x prize, that would require going into orbit. He wants to shoot 50 miles straight up and come straight back down.

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  6. When you catch up with the rocket guy by PD · · Score: 5, Funny

    There's some equipment you might need when you catch up with him. For example, this might be useful. And to load him up, you might need one of these. Of course, to be truly prepared, make sure you have access to plenty of these and some of this.

    1. Re:When you catch up with the rocket guy by Chuu · · Score: 1

      Am I the only one who noticed that the sponge linked by the parent is TWENTY SIX DOLLARS? I mean, do people really have so much money that they must go for designer cleaning supplies as well?

      -Chu

  7. It's cool that he's a toymaker by macshune · · Score: 3, Insightful

    and that he's building a *rocket*. I'm sure this will inspire a lot of kids to go into science if it works.

    I'm also sure it's good for him because he can turn around and make action figures of himself and his rocket!

    1. Re:It's cool that he's a toymaker by jd · · Score: 1

      Toy Story III - Invasion of Mars. Film at 11!

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  8. Hear about the guy who tried this 5 years ago? by r_glen · · Score: 1

    Wonder why?

  9. Re:The X-prize is retarded by stoolpigeon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Anybody in serious contention for winning the x-prize is motivated by far more than the prize itself.

    Those who are working on a budget that makes the prize itself impressive do not have a chance.

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  10. A Darwin Award waiting to happen? by Michael+Crutcher · · Score: 1
    I wish him luck and hope that nothing ever tragic happens to him, but if any story sounded like the start of a Darwin award description, this has to be it.

    1. Re:A Darwin Award waiting to happen? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I certainly hope he's not doing it just to win some award. No award is worth dying for. And if someone is goading him on by running some sort of contest, that person could be liable for whatever happens to him and/or to any spectators. If this is true, it sounds like both of them need to be stopped.

      - Anne

    2. Re:A Darwin Award waiting to happen? by NorthDude · · Score: 1

      You posted as an AC, but kept your signature, I recognized you Anne!!!

      I sure hope you just don't know what a Darwin Award is, and that you are not not just trolling (god, I put you in my friends list!). The Darwin Awards is(are) a joke... It is an award, awarded to the guy (or girl) who killed him(her)self in the most stupid way in the course of the year, thus cleaning the gene pool; Darwinism... look here

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  11. I'm just waiting... by cliffy2000 · · Score: 1

    For the obligatory Carmack post (after all, he IS a rocket scientist). Here, at /., John Carmack is the true J.C.

  12. Can Elton John take any legal action? by public_class_name_ex · · Score: 5, Funny


    I thought *he* was the rocket man?

    1. Re:Can Elton John take any legal action? by at_kernel_99 · · Score: 1

      I believe EJ says, "I'm a rocket-man". Not "I'm the rocket-man".

    2. Re:Can Elton John take any legal action? by public_class_name_ex · · Score: 1


      Yeah... and I suppose it's "rocket man" not "rocket guy".

      It's like Radiation Dude. Whereas Radioactive Man's catch phrase is "up and atom" in a delicious pun, Radiation Dude's is just "up and let's go."

    3. Re:Can Elton John take any legal action? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did he take action against Shatner?

      That would have been a useful precedent and a humanitarian act.

  13. Re:The X-prize is retarded by GaelenBurns · · Score: 1

    But the goals of the X-Prize are specific. A cheaply reusable rocket would allow for more moderately wealthy people taking the greatest vacation of all. As demand goes up competition will flourish, driving prices down further. The more people getting into space, the better - from the human genome's perspective.

    Sure, it may flop. But it's a great idea, and it should be pursued aggressively.

  14. hmm that's easier alright by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 2, Insightful

    He's scaled back from an X-Prize launch to a mere 15,000 feet with a sky-diving return.

    Isn't that what a lot of small airfields propose under the name of "parachute jump" for $100, 1-hour training session included for first-timers ?

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    1. Re:hmm that's easier alright by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh, NO. A first time parachute jump is 1,500 feet.

  15. Prestige by Halthar · · Score: 1
    This could be the next ride installed next to Disney's Mission:Space if he has his way!!!

    This is just wonderful, this is gonna remove all the prestige from winning a Darwin Award!!!
  16. Everything that goes up by headGasket · · Score: 1

    end up coming back down, dreams included. Good to see he as gone to compressed air as a propellant, it'll be a lot less messy if/when it fails.

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  17. Re:The X-prize is retarded by jd · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Not necessarily. For a start, ten million isn't much, these days. Sponsors could probably be found for more and more outrageous contests.


    Then, there's the thrill factor. You've gone into space. Twice. And you've the technology to go there again. But it's too expensive to go it alone. So you start advertising for N'Sync musicians interested in a visit to Low Earth Orbit.


    (After which, you tell him the music is carp, read him some Vogon poetry, and throw him out of the airlock. After which, he has 30 seconds to be rescued by a shoe.)

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  18. Favorite Quote by stoolpigeon · · Score: 3, Funny

    In carting the rocket on a truck around town, Walker said he hangs a simple right to bear arms sign on the back: "I take my second amendment rights real seriously."

    If I owned one of these I could change my bumper to stick to read "My rocket has killed less people than Ted Kennedy's car" That would be sweet.

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    1. Re:Favorite Quote by jd · · Score: 2, Funny

      Pathetic. Now, if he had a bumper sticker that said: "Area 51: Alien Cleanup Patrol"....

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    2. Re:Favorite Quote by DogIsMyCoprocessor · · Score: 1

      Or, alternatively, Laura Bush's car.

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    3. Re:Favorite Quote by schwatoo · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      In carting the rocket on a truck around town, Walker said he hangs a simple right to bear arms sign on the back: "I take my second amendment rights real seriously."

      That confirms it. He _is_ a fruit loop.

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    4. Re:Favorite Quote by BigRedFish · · Score: 1

      It would be sweeter if it read:
      My rocket has killed fewer people...

    5. Re:Favorite Quote by public_class_name_ex · · Score: 1


      Or if his father's read:
      "My kid's toy rocket beat up your kid's toy rocket..."

      Until a NASA guy's dad pulls up behind him.

  19. hydrogen peroxide by jaxdahl · · Score: 1

    The article mentions that he has his own distillery for making 90% pure hydrogen peroxide. John Carmack has mentioned he's been having problems procuring H2O2 of higher purities. What's holding him back from making his own?

    1. Re:hydrogen peroxide by Mryll · · Score: 1

      He's not a ChemE ?

    2. Re:hydrogen peroxide by Tmack · · Score: 2, Informative
      Most of his suppliers IIRC had a stipulation that stated they would not attempt to concentrate the peroxide. He does have one guy distilling some 90%, but it is taking alot of time to get any significant quantity. They have also been having a good bit of success using just the 50% and have been experimenting alot with that. 50% would be a better alternative if they can get it to perform well, its easier to get, less dangerous than 90% and probably less expensive. The only drawback is that it isnt quite as powerfull, and is taking alot of R&D time to get it working well.

      Tm

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  20. Re:The X-prize is retarded by GaelenBurns · · Score: 1

    Wow... I haven't seen a Gorbie reference in years.

  21. I didn't either... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I'm a professional ninja/robot.

  22. Chances of failure... by jdhutchins · · Score: 1

    "What's the chance of failure," he added, "when you have a pressurized vessel with water, compressed air, and a cork in the bottom? Probably higher than he admits. However, once the rocket reaches a certain height, it doesn't matter what it does, becuase he has a parachute on anyways and is expecting to use it. I am not a rocket scientist, but I know that he'll have to have some pretty light stuff (and a light passenger), because he's going to need A LOT of the stuff. That being said, I wish him the best of luck, and hope he takes his rockets to even higher heights.

  23. If he only wants to hit 15K feet... by ElGuapoGolf · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If he's only shooting for 15,000 feet, why not just build a modern day ME163 rocket fighter? I seem to recall that it could fly at around 30,000 feet, and there was an improved B version that had enough fuel for 15 minutes of flying time.

    If they just fixed the whole nasty "randomly exploding" problem it was prone to, it could be fun.

    I don't know much about the lil rocket, but didn't the Russians also build a version? Anyone know anything about that?

    1. Re:If he only wants to hit 15K feet... by DogIsMyCoprocessor · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Hell, I can drive my car on a paved road above 14,000 feet.

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    2. Re:If he only wants to hit 15K feet... by KjetilK · · Score: 1

      I've climbed on my own two feet to 20,000 feet. :-)

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  24. Funny stuff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    check this out. Talk about mocking....

  25. DIY Space Ship by SirChris · · Score: 1

    Why don't we all put our heads together and come up with a DIY space ship made from Home Depot supplies. We are all smart enough right? Collectively?

    1. Re:DIY Space Ship by mikeophile · · Score: 1

      We're smart enough to build it if you are smart enough to ride it.

    2. Re:DIY Space Ship by pi+eater · · Score: 0

      I'll contribute the cup holder.

      geek gear n stuff

    3. Re:DIY Space Ship by bluGill · · Score: 1

      First: notice the first part of the name: home. A lot of neat/useful things for someone with a home to work on. Not a whole lot useful for a rocket designer. The wrong tools for the job, and the wrong metals. Not a big deal though, most areas have a metal store nearby that sells plenty of useful things, and can help you find the tools. (In rulal areas these stores are common too, farmers do a lot of repairs themselves)

      Money. I'm not gonna spend my money on your stupid idea so naanny-nannay-boo-boo. Maybe not quite that bad, but you get the idea.

      Lastly: that is more or less what this guy is doing: taking his smarts and abilities and making a rocket. If you want to, then do it. I have other things I'd prefer to do. I wish him the best of luck, but I don't intend to do that. (The feeling is mutual I'm sure, he likely isn't interested in the things I'm trying to do)

    4. Re:DIY Space Ship by linoleo · · Score: 1


      Problem is that IQ isn't additive, it works more like resistors in parallel: let's assume (realistically) that each of us has an IQ of 150. Then if 3 of us get together, the groups overall IQ will be

      IQ = 1/(1/iq1 + 1/iq2 + 1/iq3),

      which works out to just 50, well below the "rocket science" threshold of 80. As group size increases, group IQ tends to zero, a phenomenon well-known in programmer and government circles.

      So to conclude, we're better off building our rockets individually. Perhaps we could share experiences under GPL though.

      - nic

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  26. Re:The X-prize is retarded by merlin_jim · · Score: 1

    Those who are working on a budget that makes the prize itself impressive do not have a chance.

    Actually the idea behind it is to encourage innovation that DOES make the prize worthwhile; the people behind the X-Prize would love to see a SSTO launch capability that can be funded at that kind of level.

    Even if they spend an order of magnitude MORE than the prize itself, they will still have advanced the state of the art well beyond what NASA is currently able to achieve; NASA's launch costs are estimated at about $1000 per pound of material.

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  27. Silly because... by devphaeton · · Score: 1

    ... when i was a kid i used to dream of doing stuff like this all the time. I would draw out schematics of various vehicles and modes of transportation.

    Nowadays, building a rocket is liable to get you arrested for being a terrorist or something.

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    1. Re:Silly because... by Jedi+Holocron · · Score: 1

      This from Estes Rockets:

      Homeland Security Act and Model Rocketry

      The Homeland Security Act includes the "Safe Explosives Act" which has placed even more responsibility on the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms in an effort to keep explosives out of the hands of terrorists. As would be expected there are now more explosives regulations. However, some of the information that has been provided to and reported by the media has several issues confused. Visit http://www.atf.treas.gov/explarson/safexpact/model rockets.htmto obtain accurate information with regard to the ATF and model rocketry. UPS, FedEx and other carriers continue to carry model rocket engines (model rocket motors that contain no more than 62.5 grams of propellant per device) that are properly packaged, marked, labeled and documented in accordance with the regulations of the U.S. Department of Transportation (49 CFR). The same is true with regard to the United States Postal Service for Toy Propellant Devices (Model Rocket Motors and Igniters that are pre-approved for mailing by the USPS) that contain no more than 30 grams of propellant per device.

  28. Or at the very least... by nizo · · Score: 1
    This could be the next ride installed next to Disney's Mission:Space

    Or at the very least, a very spectacular entry as a future Darwin Award.

    1. Re:Or at the very least... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      This could be the next ride installed next to Disney's Mission:Space

      Naahhh, I think it would be more appropriate next to Big Thunder Mountain Railroad, seeing as they've already had the practice of picking up the dead and injured there.

  29. Inter-Continental Ballistic Lawndarts by mikeophile · · Score: 2, Funny

    Anyone up for a game over the Rockies?

  30. Catching up with the rocket guy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Are you sure the Rocket Guy is not trying to catch up with the road runner?

  31. TechTV had him on 'Invent This!' by gatekeep · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This guy was recently on Invent This! on TechTV.

    He talked about some system to distill 50% peroxide into 90%. Didn't Carmack say that wasn't feasible to do in the volume he needed?

    1. Re:TechTV had him on 'Invent This!' by Thagg · · Score: 3, Interesting

      One problem is that Carmack's H202 suppliers demanded that he sign papers saying that he wouldn't concentrate the H202 any further, IIRC.

      You've got to hand it to Carmack, he takes things seriously.

      One of Carmack's biggest problems now is where to launch his rocket, as the parachute descent could end anywhere within a few dozen mile radius, and it's hard to secure that large an area. He's seriously considering going to a powered landing just so he can land it at a particular place.

      The X-Prize is seriously hard. I'd be surprised if anybody actually makes it by the specified cut-off time of Jan 1 2005.

      thad

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    2. Re:TechTV had him on 'Invent This!' by WolfWithoutAClause · · Score: 1
      He talked about some system to distill 50% peroxide into 90%. Didn't Carmack say that wasn't feasible to do in the volume he needed?

      Carmack is going ~20x higher and hence needs a lot more peroxide. I think it's almost two orders of magnitude more- Walker's distillation system doesn't have the capacity- it would take a year or so to make one tankful for Carmack's needs IRC (Carmack needs to launch twice to win the X-prize).

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  32. Tougher for the individual... by drenehtsral · · Score: 3, Interesting

    As technology advances, it becomes tougher for the small-scale individual to do pretty much _anything_ themselves. I'm really psyched that this guy is trying.

    When airplanes were new, anybody could build a decent one that would compete with at least the low-range commercial ones. Same with computers, cars, operating systems (but then, hey, look at Linux now!). I guess what I'm trying to say is that no matter how may people call this dude a fool, I think he's doing something really cool =:-)

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  33. Familiar Story? by serutan · · Score: 1

    This is starting to sound like some of my more ambitious software projects.

    Next scaleback: The Catapult Guy!

  34. Quote by Eric+Seppanen · · Score: 2
    If anyone knows who originally said this, I'd appreciate hearing about it. It seems appropriate here:

    A ship poorly built is a raft
    an airplane poorly built is a cart
    a rocket poorly built is a bomb.

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    1. Re:Quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Easy! That is a quote by Eric Seppanen (79060) on Wednesday October 29, @06:50PM
      I found it on slashdot...didn't even have to google.

  35. Relieved by fragamus · · Score: 1

    I am mighty relieved that the rocket guy has scaled back his plans. My brother and I were so sure that he was going to die in his previous plan that we reserved the domain name deadrocketguy.com. Afterwards, I was so ashamed about it that I never mentioned it to anyone, but now that he's going to live, I'm going public.

  36. cue the obligitory jokes by modme2 · · Score: 0

    darwin award winner no need to cremate him when it explodes blah blah unless he is actually crazy, he won't do it without being confident of success. im sure he's done more than a little bit of research and planning. you could argue that anyone who has got inside a missile to be blasted 100km directly upwards was mad. but then without those people taking (calculated) risks we wouldn't even know what the earth looks like from space. i say good on him, and good luck.

  37. Off topic drift, but... by DoraLives · · Score: 2, Interesting
    that reminds me of the time I met an elderly German gentleman while working as the desk clerk in a local motel.

    Seems as if he only had one leg.

    Turns out he was a ME163 pilot and lost the leg to a young man flying a Spitfire who managed to hit him and blow his leg off in the process, but not quite take his Komet out of the sky.

    My elderly friend said getting shot with the 50 calibre through the upper leg knocked him unconcious.

    So consider what ensued: You wake up in agony, only to look down and see that one of your legs no longer belongs to you. You then notice you're piloting a heavily damaged airplane. You further surmise that your airplane has no fuel (Komet's shot their wad and coasted back to earth) and no landing gear (Komet's landed on a sort of skid). Now get the damned plane back on the ground to a dead stick landing without finishing off either the plane or yourself.

    Radical dude, radical!

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  38. Going anywhere? by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 1

    It's nice to see people dream, but is this guy practical enough to pull it off? If you read about his other inventions that went nowhere, they all end "... unfortunately...." and the mean old ugly world cops the blame for why his invention never became the next big thing. My gut instinct is that the rocket will also end with an unfortunately.

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  39. What About the Guy W/Balloons and a Lawn Chair? by reallocate · · Score: 1

    Wasn't there some guy a some years ago who tied a bunch of helium balloons to his lawn chair and soon found himself a few miles high?

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    1. Re:What About the Guy W/Balloons and a Lawn Chair? by ptbarnett · · Score: 2, Informative
      Wasn't there some guy a some years ago who tied a bunch of helium balloons to his lawn chair and soon found himself a few miles high?

      Yes:

      http://www.snopes.com/spoons/noose/balloon.htm

  40. Radio Show Interview by jayrtfm · · Score: 1

    Long interview on The Space Show

    Also, the story adheres to Slashdot's usual standards of accuracy, as Rocketguy never did have plans for an X-Prize launch.

  41. Re:The X-prize is retarded by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny


    A cheaply reusable rocket would allow for more moderately wealthy people taking the greatest vacation of all.


    I doubt those moderately wealthy folks will quite understandnd what they are in for when they sign up for "the big vacation in the sky."

  42. dont surf to http://www.estesrockets.com/ by gnuguru · · Score: 0, Troll

    It has to be the most fucked html/javascript site on the net.

  43. Mountian Launch? by Sensei_knight · · Score: 1

    Why don't we launch things a few thousand feet closer to space in the Rocky Mountains? Wouldn't that save fuel and reduce launch costs?

    1. Re:Mountian Launch? by grozzie2 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Most launches are to an orbit that is not a polar orbit, so, they tend to launch eastbound, to gain the extra little push in that direction from the rotation of the earth.

      When choosing a launch location, a very significant factor is the downrange property damage considerations. Since modern rockets tend to be devices that explode on a fairly regular basis, and they do so when travelling at very high speed, there is a very high likelihood of high velocity 'junk' impacting downrange of the launch point.

      With that in mind, the ideal launch location is atop a 60,000 foot mountain located on the equator, with little/no population base for a couple thousand miles eastbound of the launch location. There is no such location on earth, so, most launches happen from a 'compromise' location. The us government long ago deemed the safety factor of launching over the ocean was worth more than the cost savings of a high altitude launch location.

      Payloads headed to a polar orbit tend to have slightly different dynamics associated, and the initial launch vector is actually somewhat westbound, to offset the rotation of the earth. An ideal location would be a high peak located exactly 'on the pole', where there is no velocity penalty from the earths rotation. Altho the southern polar region does have such locations, the logistics of launching from there turn out to be more expensive than spending a little more on the launch vehicle, and launching it from home. US military payloads destined for a polar orbit tend to depart terra firma from Vandenberg, where the initial westbound vector will indeed take em out over the water again.

      In both cases, the potential for downrange impact damage outweighs the cost savings achievable from a high altitude launch location. Conscious decisions were made in selecting launch locations where politics and impact potential outweighed launch efficiencies. Politics said it had to be within the lower 48, impact potential said it had to have a downrange pointed out over the water.

      From an engineering perspective, high up in the mountains of Hawaii would be a much more efficient launch location. It has the benefit of altitude, the downrange ocean, and provides every major airport on the west coast as a 'launch abort alternate landing location'. In the real world though, the logistics of transporting all launch hardware out to that location will cost more than the savings incurred, so the point becomes academic. Still, remembering the issues of weight control during the construction of the initial apollo moon landing hardware, cant help but wonder how much more could have been done if the Saturn 5 was launched high atop the mountains of Hawaii. I'm sure that would have increased the available moon orbit throw weight by a few thousand pounds.

  44. Next space power? by pi+eater · · Score: 0

    Maybe I'm just paranoid, but I have reservations about a guy named Brian "the Rocket Guy" becoming the next space power.

    geek gear n stuff

  45. A Guy's gotta' have a dream by YetAnotherGeekGuy · · Score: 1


    "He's scaled back from an X-Prize launch"

    He may no longer be going after the X-prize, but, I gotta say, it sure sounds like a Darwin Award just waiting to happen.

    --

    to the Engineer, the glass is neither half full nor half empty. Its just two times too big.
  46. Better if he was a junkman by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Once upon a time, a junkman had a dream...
    "I'm gonna build a spaceship, go to the moon, salvage all the junk that's up there, bring it back and sell it."
    So he put together a team. An ex-astronaut...a fuel expert...they built a rocketship...
    And they went to the moon. Who knows what they'll do next?

    http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Launchpad /9 782/salvage1.html

    Of course no one that still gets zits will remember this show.

  47. Goddamn Fokkers... by pipingguy · · Score: 1

    And now for obvious joke ripped-off from rec.humor.funny:

    A Spitfire World War II pilot is reminiscing before school children about his days in the air force. (Joke best delivered with a good, thick British accent)

    "In 1942," he says, "the situation was really tough. The Germans had a very strong air force. I remember, " he continues, "one day I was protecting the bombers and suddenly, out of the clouds, these fokkers appeared.

    (At this point, several of the children giggle.)

    I looked up, and right above me was one of them. I aimed at him and shot him down. They were swarming. I immediately realized that there was another fokker behind me."

    At this instant the girls in the auditorium start to giggle and boys start to laugh. The teacher stands up and says, "I think I should point out that 'Fokker' was the name of the German-Dutch aircraft company"

    "That's true," says the pilot, "but these fokkers were flying Messerschmidts."

    1. Re:Goddamn Fokkers... by Stachel · · Score: 1

      I think I should point out that 'Fokker' was the name of the German-Dutch aircraft company

      Dutch, that is. Anthony Fokker fled Germany at the end of the Great War and continued to build aircraft in The Netherlands till his death in 1939 (more info here).

      Fokker Aircraft continued to design and build marvellous aircraft but selling them became a problem. Finally in 1996 (after the Dutch Gov't withdrew financial support and Deutsche Aerospace had bought it) they went bankrupt.
      Stork now maintains Fokker aircraft.

      -- Stachel

      --
      Stachel
    2. Re:Goddamn Fokkers... by pipingguy · · Score: 1

      Fokker, and then Stork, how appropriate is that?!

      I'm assuming that you Dutch don't have a company called, "Toddler" that might take over next...

      Paul

  48. Alert the FBI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    He's got a centrifuge, he's mixing his own rocket fuel, he's made rockets capable of reaching several miles. This guy is clearly a terrorist! Someone, quickly, alert homeland security!

    Really though, his setup is extremely cool. But how much cooler would it all be ... if it were in a Volcano *muhahahahaha*

  49. If I am not mistaken.. by annisette · · Score: 1, Informative

    there was a television interview with Mr.Walker some time ago and he talked about the availability of goverment surplus equipment he bought for cents on the dollars, military and space programs, pumps, motors, nozzles, machined exotic metals, he literaly bought close to a million dollars(or more) of "stuff" for a few thousand. It is great that these kind of garage sales are available, he must of been like a little kid when he saw what was available and it probably helped a great deal in the $ department. Perhaps he now has more custom made equipment but it would of been a great shot in the arm to get started. The interview showed him with his parts, his(a) capsule, helmet, and a big smile, he knew he was going for a rocket ride.

    --
    I eat my grapes at room temperature, cuz the cold ones hurt my teeth
  50. Matlock! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The show didn't last because Don Knotts never played a character in it, the way he did with most of Andy Griffith's other projects (No Time for Sargents, Andy of Mayberry*/The Andy Griffith Show, Matlock, Return to Mayberry*, etc.).

    It was a nice show, however, even if most people don't remember it.

    * sp?

    P.S. Here is your link as a link.

  51. Re:The X-prize is retarded by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    "ten million isn't much, these days"

    Spare some change, mister?

  52. Heat shield not that neccessary for the "amateurs" by Shadowmist · · Score: 1

    The folks going for the X-Prize aren't going to making the kind of velocity neccessary for an extreme heat shield. As I understand it, they'll be making less velocity than even Alan Sheperd's Mercury-Redstone shot. Some heat protection is neccessary but far less than a typical orbital re-entry. And it's pratically a non-issue for a straight up straight down profile envisioned for the original project.

    BTW, the Redstone was a single-stage rocket an reached a height of about 100 miles.

  53. Not crazy. by docbrown42 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Rich people and their crazy ideas...

    Only poor people are crazy. Rich people are excentric!

    --
    Ed Wedig
    Graphic design services
    docbrown.net
    1. Re:Not crazy. by hesiod · · Score: 1

      > Only poor people are crazy. Rich people are excentric!

      So you watch Smallville too, eh? BTW, it's eccentric.

  54. Salvage 1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe Brian Walker watched the show Salvage 1 when he was younger.

    "Salvage 1 was a short-lived television series [in which] 'a guy built a spaceship out of junk and flew to the moon' ".

  55. This guy's largely been a failure by Vexar · · Score: 1
    I read through his site on all the projects that were bigger than a Nerf cannon(which probably never passed safety inspections anyway). Every one of them failed. Lack of investors, leaks, flawed designs, etc. He even failed to make a stretcher kit for the military, something about a lack of quality in aesthetics.

    His ideas didn't stink (except a Nerf pressurized cannon, that just screams lawsuit), but his execution really choked. Inventor geeks need two friends: a gifted machinist and a die-hard salesman.

  56. Hydrazine! by dexter+riley · · Score: 1

    I loved that show! It seems like every episode they used hydrazine (the same fuel they put in the rocket) to do something cool. One episode, they used it to create an explosion that produced gasoline from a tapped-out well; the gasoline it produced was green! (an unexpected side effect of the hydrazine, naturally...) But the well caught on fire, and they had to use a second explosion (more hydrazine!!!) to put it out.

    A fine show, even without Barney...I mean, Don Knotts. And I now realize we need more hydrazine on television.

  57. Obligatory quote by CrystalFalcon · · Score: 1

    Once the rockets are up,
    who cares where they come down?
    That's not my department!
    (...says Werner von Braun.)

  58. You won't be laughing.. by Channard · · Score: 1

    .. when the nation is mourning the loss of the craft's five hamster pilots, you insensitive clod!