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OpenBSD 3.4 Released
tedu writes "We just couldn't wait another 2 days, so now you can enjoy OpenBSD 3.4 a little early and protect yourself from ghosts and goblins. More details at the OpenBSD website and official announcement. Remember to please use a mirror."
Are you troll enough for a penile implant?
.."OpenBSD 3.4 a little early and protect yourself from ghosts and goblins"
So you are saying that OpenBSD is dead then?
Its our new motto for OpenBSD.
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Theo, you are a jerk, and no one likes working with you. The NetBSD guys were assholes to kick you out, but whine all you want about that, OpenBSD sucks. Sorry. I tried several times to give OpenBSD a chance. Sorry, pal, "secure" is a relative term even for you mist priv sep zealot (nice job hackin in privsep and causing a root exploit) and trojaned tarballs.
Good job, Rat. We dont care aboutn OpenBSD. FreeBSD or die.
the whole fucking thing a half assed fork of NetBSD.
At least FreeBSD is original. (oh, and scalable, faster, more featured, has better ports, is secure -i dont know what the fuck or how the fuck SSH is better on OBSD, is coherent and respectful of 4.4BSD without being a fucking lunatic and keeping the shit that should have gone years ago there
Theo de Craap. He stole SSH from Tatu, OpenBSD from NetBSD, most of the drivers from FreeBSD. The pf/ipf series was probably inspired by work done elsewhere since he set a precedent for being incapable of being original, or better.
Freaking shit, why does every operating system want to do that! Time to go back up to PC world..
Screenshot of My G5 desktop!
What We Can Learn From BSD
By Chinese Karma Whore, Version 1.0
Everyone knows about BSD's failure and imminent demise. As we pore over the history of BSD, we'll uncover a story of fatal mistakes, poor priorities, and personal rivalry, and we'll learn what mistakes to avoid so as to save Linux from a similarly grisly fate.
Let's not be overly morbid and give BSD credit for its early successes. In the 1970s, Ken Thompson and Bill Joy both made significant contributions to the computing world on the BSD platform. In the 80s, DARPA saw BSD as the premiere open platform, and, after initial successes with the 4.1BSD product, gave the BSD company a 2 year contract.
These early triumphs would soon be forgotten in a series of internal conflicts that would mar BSD's progress. In 1992, AT&T filed suit against Berkeley Software, claiming that proprietary code agreements had been haphazardly violated. In the same year, BSD filed countersuit, reciprocating bad intentions and fueling internal rivalry. While AT&T and Berkeley Software lawyers battled in court, lead developers of various BSD distributions quarreled on Usenet. In 1995, Theo de Raadt, one of the founders of the NetBSD project, formed his own rival distribution, OpenBSD, as the result of a quarrel that he documents on his website. Mr. de Raadt's stubborn arrogance was later seen in his clash with Darren Reed, which resulted in the expulsion of IPF from the OpenBSD distribution.
As personal rivalries took precedence over a quality product, BSD's codebase became worse and worse. As we all know, incompatibilities between each BSD distribution make code sharing an arduous task. Research conducted at MIT found BSD's filesystem implementation to be "very poorly performing." Even BSD's acclaimed TCP/IP stack has lagged behind, according to this study.
Problems with BSD's codebase were compounded by fundamental flaws in the BSD design approach. As argued by Eric Raymond in his watershed essay, The Cathedral and the Bazaar, rapid, decentralized development models are inherently superior to slow, centralized ones in software development. BSD developers never heeded Mr. Raymond's lesson and insisted that centralized models lead to 'cleaner code.' Don't believe their hype - BSD's development model has significantly impaired its progress. Any achievements that BSD managed to make were nullified by the BSD license, which allows corporations and coders alike to reap profits without reciprocating the goodwill of open-source. Fortunately, Linux is not prone to this exploitation, as it is licensed under the GPL.
The failure of BSD culminated in the resignation of Jordan Hubbard and Michael Smith from the FreeBSD core team. They both believed that FreeBSD had long lost its earlier vitality. Like an empire in decline, BSD had become bureaucratic and stagnant. As Linux gains market share and as BSD sinks deeper into the mire of decay, their parting addresses will resound as fitting eulogies to BSD's demise.
euros are a bunch of Godless butt pirates who embrace multiculturalism and call for abolition of private property while their society sinks in a cesspool of third-world immigration
Indeed it is common knowledge that ever hapless *BSD continues to be mired in an irrecoverable and mortifying tangle of fatal trouble. It is perhaps anybody's guess as to which *BSD is the worst off of an admittedly suffering *BSD community. The numbers continue to decline for *BSD but FreeBSD may be hurting the most. Look at the cold numbers. The erosion of user base for FreeBSD continues in a dizzying, head spinning downward spiral.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD, another dying variant. How many users of BSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major marketing surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among hobbyist dilettante dabblers. In truth, for all practical purposes *BSD is already dead. It is a dead man walking.
Fact: *BSD is dying
You too will die screaming, with your whole family I hope.
I JUST USED A CITY BUS AND I SAW THIS CHICK, 19 YEARS OLD, AND I WAS UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF ALCOHOL AND I GOT THE COURAGE TO SAY HER 'HEY, YOU LOOK NICE. CAN I FUCK YOU?' AND YOU KNOW WHAT??? SHE SAYS 'YES!'. SO I JUST LIKE FUCKED HER 15 MINUTES AGO... THAT CUTE BARELY LEGAL BITCH WAS JUMPING ON MY COCK!!!! I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!!!!! IT WAS THIS EASY TO GET SOME PUSSY OF A GOOD LOOKIN' BITCH!!! I'M 30 YEARS OLD FAT SYSADMIN BUT I JUST GOT SOME PUSSY OF SO FUCKING GOOD LOOKING BITCH!!!! FUCK!!! I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS HAPPENED TO ME!!!!!
"My friend says that FreeBSD stole the TCP/IP stack from DOS a long time ago and Microsoft is always looking for revenge for that." You should research before you post, FreeBSD developed TCP/IP and the same TCP/IP is used by Microsoft, and it wasnt stolen by anyone. You should learn about the licencing of GPL, BSD and MPL etc If you think you know how to beat Microsoft, you may use the GPL to your advantage and set up your own Linux company.
Yet another
crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that *BSD
accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the
latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this
news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray,
as fittingly exemplified by
failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The
hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future.
In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are
looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market
share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having
lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time
FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point
more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD
are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in
ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on
Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users
of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore
there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of
FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on,
FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled
OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick
and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will
be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could
save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.
Fact:
*BSD is dead
Neither will we, mwuhahaaha. I hope you enjoy releasing 3.4p1, 3.4p1.1, 3.4p1p1 and 3.4p1p1.1!
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Please help metamoderate.
I have heard predictions for 15 years that BSD is dying. And more people use it today than ever before. Especially for firewalls to protect the tender Windows systems.
With OpenBSD, FreeBSD and NetBSD in developmnet, there are alot of developers out there, more than ever before.
BSD is like the turtle in the race with the rabbit. Not flashy, not fast but it will get there without crashing.
Indeed:
Europeans believe Israel poses the biggest threat to world peace
What the fuck is wrong with these retards? They willingly side with a bunch of islamic terrorists who'd gladly blow Paris up with a nuke if it weren't for Israel, UK and USA keeping them from doing it.
Oct. 23 -- BSD resumed receiving life-sustaining care yesterday in a
Florida hospital room, but many experts said there is virtually no hope
that it will ever recover, despite it fan boy's desperate hopes.
"IF IT'S over a year, BSD's not ever going to get up," said Fred Plum, a
professor emeritus at Weill Cornell College in New York. "You'd just
don't see it. It just doesn't happen."
BSD, 39, has been in a persistent vegetative
state since its heart stopped for unknown reasons in 1990. A feeding
tube in BSD's stomach was removed this past Wednesday after its husband,
Theo De Ratt, who said his wife had told him she (BSD) would not want to
be kept alive under such circumstances, won a long series of court
battles to have life-sustaining nourishment withdrawn so she (BSD) could
die.
Now when secure/good written code is not important. Windows is taking over.
"Do not stand at my hard disk and forever weep.
I am not there; I do not sleep.
I am a thousand winds that blow.
I am the diamond glints on snow.
I am the sunlight on ripened grain.
I am the gentle autumn's rain.
When you reboot in the morning's hush
I am the swift uplifting rush
Of quiet birds in circled flight.
I am the soft stars that shine at night.
Do not stand at my hard disk and forever cry.
I am not there. "
HAHAhaahahhaha are you one of the suckers who didn't get the joke?
Feeling bitter and stupid now or just plain old stupid?
If English isn't your first language then missing the joke is forgivable but being an ass about it still makes you bitter.
OpenBSD has worst reputation... when it comes to streamlining. Fefe has written an interesting article about BSDs' and Linux' responsiveness in various situations...
Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered Slashdot community when recently the GNAA confirmed that Sir Haxalot accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of karma-whoring posts. Coming on the heels of the latest Slashdot survey which plainly states that Sir Haxalot has lost more karma, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along: Sir Haxalot is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent First Post comprehensive trolling test.
You don't need to be an Anonymous Coward to predict Sir Haxalot's future. The hand writing is on the wall: Sir Haxalot faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for Sir Haxalot because Sir Haxalot's precious karma is dying. Things are looking very bad for Sir Haxalot. As many of us are already aware, Sir Haxalot continues to lose karma bonuses. Negative mod points flow like a river of blood. There can no longer be any doubt: Sir Haxalot is dying.
All major surveys show that Sir Haxalot has steadily declined in Slashdot popularity. Sir Haxalot is very sick and his long term survival prospects are very dim. If Sir Haxalot is to survive at all it will be among pityful moderators. Sir Haxalot continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save him at this point in time. For all practical purposes, Sir Haxalot is dead.
Fact: Sir Haxalot is dead
It's dead, Jim.
Oct. 23 -- BSD resumed receiving life-sustaining care yesterday in a
Florida hospital room, but many experts said there is virtually no hope
that it will ever recover, despite it fan boy's desperate hopes
"IF IT'S over a year, BSD's not ever going to get up," said Fred Plum, a
professor emeritus at Weill Cornell College in New York. "You'd just
don't see it. It just doesn't happen."
BSD, 39, has been in a persistent vegetative
state since its heart stopped for unknown reasons in 1990. A feeding
tube in BSD's stomach was removed this past Wednesday after its husband,
Theo De Ratt, who said his wife had told him she (BSD) would not want to
be kept alive under such circumstances, won a long series of court
battles to have life-sustaining nourishment withdrawn so she (BSD) could
die.
Think about that for a change of pace.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
The numbers continue to decline for *BSD but FreeBSD may be hurting the most. Look at the numbers. The loss of user base for FreeBSD continues in a head spinning downward spiral. In truth, for all practical purposes FreeBSD is already dead. It is a dead man walking. It's a fact: FreeBSD is dying.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
The numbers continue to decline for *BSD but FreeBSD may be hurting the most. Look at the numbers. The loss of user base for FreeBSD continues in a head spinning downward spiral. In truth, for all practical purposes FreeBSD is already dead. It is a dead man walking. It's a fact: FreeBSD is dying.
Have you ever seen an animal backed into a corner and fighting for its life? That is the situation OpenBSD finds itself in. The OpenBSD fans are in a state of desperation, and even the mildest criticism of their hobby horse results in wild and paranoid outburts from the faithful. They will find an alibi and excuse for everything. Truth has nothing to do with it.
You're a big boy now. High time you started acting like one.
BSD is a walking corpse, putrifying on the hoof.
and dying at a fucking amazing rate. Why do you losers still use this pile of shit?
Suck it down, Tux has won!
Outside of a few socially backward dweebs, no one, but no one, uses BSD.
Yes it's dead. The BSD zealots need to wake up and smell the coffee.
They also need to shower, brush their teeth, lose 100 lbs, and get a life.
im hoping this is not too off topic, but theres some things that have to be set streight for the misinformed people who post nonsensical blabber here.
first off, the openbsd team does not provide isos for download for several reasons. 1 - the real users dont need a cd at all. no matter how slow your connection is or how much you pay for shipping, you can still do an ftp install of the OS way before you would get a CD. 2 - the CDs are available before the ftp sites so that the people who order and pay money to support the project get an added bonus of getting the new version faster in addition to a sheet of stickers and a jewel case. 3 - since these people get the CD before its available for download, they kind of act as an unofficial open beta test team. 4 - it keeps complete newbies (well some of the time) away from using openbsd and keeps the user base smaller but of higher quality. this makes sure that more time is spent in the community on advanced topics rather than the typical "i just downloaded linux 9.1 how to i burn it to a cd?".
second, *bsd is not dying. never has been, probably never will. any non-religious-nazi admin will use the right tool for the job when he can, and alot of times microsoft and linux dont cut it. sorry, but linux has always been behind when it comes to a flexible license, security, and in some cases performance/stability. in many other cases linux is clearly the right tool for the job and it is used much more than BSD for that reason (if not just because of its more popular name and industry support). and hell, even microsoft products can clearly be the best tool for the job... i dont see the secretary or the accounting department at my place of employment using linux as a desktop anytime soon. sorry.
if you want to look at the usage of BSD as compared to linux, take mac osx into account and the arguement is over. thank you apple, for shifting the trend. and thank you for finally making all those mac labs at universities a useful environment for everyone.
i personally have been using openbsd since 2.7, and i cant emagine life without it. give me a new box with a blank drive and ill go from zero to firewall/gateway/vpn node/router/or whatever in one hour. nothing else comes close.
3.4 was a long awaited release with substantial new features (not found anywhere else), which shows that the openbsd team is live, kicking, and strong as ever. they provide me with a powerful tool to add to my toolbox, and its the right tool for the job quite often - just as are linux and (sigh) windows.
finally, as a side note for the linux crowd, i think that it may be possible that they resent *BSD because its existance as a viable solution means that they have to learn to use one more tool when they thought that linux was the answer to everything. dont worry, MCSEs felt the same way after the crash of the dotcoms, and they got over it (or got a job at radio shack). trust me,if you can deal with keeping up with the latest crap from microsoft, you wont have any problems with a familiar environment like *BSD.
The Failure of *BSD
Of course we can all agree that BSD is a failure, but why did BSD fail Once you get past the fact that BSD is fragmented between a myriad of incompatible kernels, there is the historical record of failure and of failed operating systems. BSD experienced moderate success about 15 years ago in academic circles. Since then it has been in steady decline. We all know BSD keeps losing market share but why Is it the problematic personalities of many of the key players Or is it larger than their troubled personalities
The record is clear on one thing no operating system has ever come back from the grave. Efforts to resuscitate BSD are one step away from spiritualists wishing to communicate with the dead. As the situation grows more desperate for the adherents of this doomed OS, the sorrow takes hold. An unremitting gloom hangs like a death shroud over a once hopeful BSD community. The hope is gone; a mournful nostalgia has settled in. Now is the end time for BSD.
On Monday *BSD was giving a sad prognosis, it was dying. It probably won't have much longer to live. So when news broke out hell broke loose. Jimmy an avid *BSD user had this to say:
Well you've heard it folks from a true *BSD user. They have all turned gay because of these unfortunate happenings.Think about that for a change of pace.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
The numbers continue to decline for *BSD but FreeBSD may be hurting the most. Look at the numbers. The loss of user base for FreeBSD continues in a head spinning downward spiral. In truth, for all practical purposes FreeBSD is already dead. It is a dead man walking. It's a fact: FreeBSD is dying.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
The numbers continue to decline for *BSD but FreeBSD may be hurting the most. Look at the numbers. The loss of user base for FreeBSD continues in a head spinning downward spiral. In truth, for all practical purposes FreeBSD is already dead. It is a dead man walking. It is a fact: FreeBSD is dying.