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America's Army - Special Forces Released

Thanks to the official site for news of the release of PC FPS/recruitment tool, America's Army - Special Forces, with download locations for the Windows client listed by Blue's News, as this "...latest release in the [freely downloadable] America's Army game series focuses on the critical, specialized role of the Army's Special Forces within the U.S. Army as they fight the Global War on Terrorism." GameSpot has a press release revealing the new missions include "...a Combat Search And Rescue (CSAR) of a downed helicopter pilot, the rescue of a wounded Resistance leader from a hospital in an urban area, a nighttime reconnaissance mission to identify enemy aviation." Previous Slashdot articles have revealed the apparent success of the game in recruiting young people to the Army.

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  1. Seems fair to me by Nonki · · Score: 1, Funny

    Iraq gets $86 Billion dollars, we get a video game. This administration is a riot! i love it

    "The ambassador and the general were briefing me on the-the vast majority of Iraqis want to live in a peaceful, free world. And we will find these people and we will bring them to justice." -G.W. Bush

  2. Resistance leaders who then bomb your cities! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    the rescue of a wounded Resistance leader from a hospital in an urban area,

    And 20 years later, the Resistance leader pays you back by bombing the World Trade Center.

    The other Resistance Leader becomes the Iraqi President.

    And Donald Rumsfeld gets all the power he wants.

  3. Bittorrent link by c.r.o.c.o · · Score: 3, Informative

    Since all the ftp servers are probably overloaded right now, here's the bittorrent link. I'm getting about 30kbps up/down, so it's not too bad.

    http://www.3dgamers.com/dlexit/torrent/games/ame ri casarmy/armyops200.exe.html

    1. Re:Bittorrent link by NSash · · Score: 1

      Any bittorrent link to the mac version?

    2. Re:Bittorrent link by woobieman29 · · Score: 2, Informative

      The Mac and (unfortunately for me) Linux versions are not available yet. Release of these ports is "To Be Announced"... :-(

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  4. That's great and all by ArmorFiend · · Score: 2, Interesting

    that they've posted windows download locations, but what about the other platforms? I seem to recal this being an all-platforms release. You might think that you could find some info here, but then you'd be wrong.

    (or maybe all those flash ads I supporessed give some info?)

    1. Re:That's great and all by Time+Doctor · · Score: 1

      From the america's army site:
      Please note: this release includes only the Windows client version. Mac client, Linux client, and Linux server will be released at a later time.

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    2. Re:That's great and all by simoniker · · Score: 1

      Not enough room in the story to clarify it, but the first link says:

      "Please note: this release includes only the Windows client version. Mac client, Linux client, and Linux server will be released at a later time."

      Doh.

  5. Fight on Terror? by igny · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I would prefer Air Force's simulators. I really want to feel how F16 or F117 fighter feels like... Some people might like Navy's... When will NASA start popularizing themselves with free simulators?

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    1. Re:Fight on Terror? by Bluesman · · Score: 2, Funny

      The Navy one would be awesome. You could stand on the bridge of an aircraft carrier for hours and drink coffee.

      Or paint the ship in an exciting maintenance mission.

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  6. Recruiting tool or mission analyzer? by Baron_Yam · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It seems to me that building a mission and having thousands of real people have a go at finishing it would be a great simulator for planning a REAL mission. But hey, that's just me.

    1. Re:Recruiting tool or mission analyzer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      [voice #1]... Sir, we're at location Delta. Visual contact has been made with the enemy. Repeat, visual contact has been made. Over.

      [voice #2]... Franks, you take Biggs and Henderson and approach from position 9-Bravo-7. Adams, you run in a circle and fire randomly at nearby foliage. Smith is to make a direct attack with his Bowie knife on the enemy position, and Murphy is assigned to block the teams access to equipment. GO GO GO!

    2. Re:Recruiting tool or mission analyzer? by chrismcdirty · · Score: 1

      I think you're getting AA confused with CS. Well... the Bowie knife part at least. They still have people that run in circles and fire at foliage.

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    3. Re:Recruiting tool or mission analyzer? by DarkZero · · Score: 1

      It seems to me that building a mission and having thousands of real people have a go at finishing it would be a great simulator for planning a REAL mission. But hey, that's just me.

      I wasn't aware that the US military had developed the sort of instant reincarnation technology that would allow a real soldier playing out the role of [St0n3d]N00B1N4T0R(3618) to realistically enact the brilliant strategy of spawning, running up to the base, killing two guys, dying, respawning, and then repeating the strategy for thirty-odd minutes until someone runs in at the right moment and caps the enemy flag. Those boys at DARPA are amazing. I mean, what's next? Alaska's first mobile nuclear weapons deployment dinosaur? Or maybe using mid-respawn soldiers from the jungle maps as acrobatic masochist corpse-ninjas?

      Nah. Knowing them, they'll just waste time turning George Bush into Dr. Octopus.

    4. Re:Recruiting tool or mission analyzer? by darkmayo · · Score: 3, Informative

      From what I recall you don;t respawn in America's Army.. you die.. your dead until that round is over. So you don't want to die because its boring as hell.

      You should play the game first before making a witty reply.

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  7. Draft by Michael.Forman · · Score: 2, Informative


    Unlike reality, at least they're not thinking of randomly forcing people to play the game.

    Michael

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  8. Bit Torrent Link for AA 1.9 to 2.0 Upgrade by AIX-Hood · · Score: 2, Informative

    Bit Torrent link for the 1.9 to 2.0 Upgrade. You need to have 1.9 already for this 223 meg upgrade to work. Filerush'll have the full one up in a bit. http://www.filerush.com/torrents/aao_patch_190to20 0.exe.torrent

  9. Re:FPS or FUD? by BrookHarty · · Score: 2, Informative

    No where in this game that makes political statements. Its all defend or attack based roles. It doesnt just include sand missions, but snow, mountains and camps. I dont think you played it, or you would know this game has nothing to do with the war on Terror, or the war in Iraq.

    BTW, as a combat sims goes, its pretty good. Team based, and honor rating. Uses the latest Unreal200x engine, in fact was the first game out to use the engine. Give it a try, you wont see any the political FUD you think. Sitting through the medial training was boring, but helps out in the game.

    If you want FUD, cheesy game out this summer, Cave Fighter or something, where you did fight in Afghanistan. But the game was so horrible visually, and game play, it was in 4.99 bin the 2nd month out.
    It was so bad, I can't even remember the name.

  10. More recruiting games! by L33tMafia187 · · Score: 1

    NASA should get in on this idea
    I'd love to see space simulators
    Gosh, the FBI/CIA too -- think Counter-Strike
    Great games that help recruit
    Extra advertising for them,
    Really sweet games for us!

    everyone wins!

    1. Re:More recruiting games! by sirvulcan · · Score: 1

      NASA should get in on this idea
      I'd love to see space simulators


      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=84975&cid=7414 006

  11. This is so fucked up by drix · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What an ingenious way to snooker thousands of unsuspecting children into signing their lives away to a life of killing. If the KKK, Michigan Militia, or some other militant fringe-group released recruiting software (I think I remember a Tom Clancy book about that), we'd all be watching day 27 of the standoff live on CNN right now. Yet when it's done by the Army, even better with your money, everyone says it's a wonderful recruiting idea. When Mortal Kombat splattered gallons of cartoonish blood on the screen, the very same politicans who are complicit in the development of this game called for that one's censorship. Yet the government itself releases a game that's infinitely more realistic with the goal of getting its players to actually kill in real life, and what's word from Capitol Hill? Free trade with China. Idiots and hypocrits, they...

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    1. Re:This is so fucked up by Saganaga · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Give me a break. Get out of your fantasy world and join the rest of us in a world where evil exists and we need our military more than ever. Thank God for the men and women who are willing to give their lives to protect our life and liberty, including those of dumb ingrates like you.

    2. Re:This is so fucked up by Saganaga · · Score: 1

      So why shouldn't I just come over to your house and kill you and your family? I suppose that wouldn't be evil? God help us all if many others think the way you do. Sheesh.

    3. Re:This is so fucked up by Saganaga · · Score: 1

      Moreover, Mr. Coward, if you don't believe in good or evil, then why the hell do you care if the U.S. does kick butt around the world. If you were consistent in your worldview you wouldn't have any problem with the strongest doing whatever it wanted to do in order to maintain its dominance.

      How do you explain your inconsistency? On one hand, you don't believe in right or wrong. On the other hand, you somehow want the U.S. to "do the right thing". Which is it?

    4. Re:This is so fucked up by MMaestro · · Score: 2, Interesting
      'You do realize that the reason Sept. 11th happened in the first place was because the United States stuck it's nose into their business.'

      So supporting a now proven successful democratic state in arguably the most disruptive part of the world is something we shouldn't have gotten into? Should we have let the Russia pwn Afghanistan by not supplying them with weapons to take down the Russian Hind helicopters?

      Its retards like you that can't take a step back, look at history, and see that the U.S. has been helping the world more than anyone is willing to admit. (I'm fucking paying taxes for some homeless kid in Iraq/Africa/Southeast Asia/South America and you got the nerve to tell me I don't know what my own country is fighting for? Wtf is YOUR country fighting for? The 'greater will of Allah?' Yeah, while you're at it, why not send me a check for the $400 USD in taxes I paid last year during my internship?)

    5. Re:This is so fucked up by AHumbleOpinion · · Score: 1

      Do you remember Vietnam?

      Actually in Vietnam we were fighting to limit the spread of Communism. It was a proxy fight that was part of the larger Cold War. The ordinary VC or NVA soldier may have been a simple nationalist who wanted the foreigners out but his officers were sure as hell dedicated communists. Hell, communist China had to invade Vietnam after the war to get them to stay inside their own borders and not mess with their neighbors. The problem with the Vietnam War was not that we were involved, it was how we mismanaged our involvement. And that mismanagement was more political than military in nature.

      How about the Iran/Contra scandle? Were we fighting "for the good of the world" when we placed innocent Americans into the hands of violent gorillas so we had an excuse to trade them weapons?

      I think you may be getting your conspriacy theories mixed up. The Iranian Hostage crisis was over long before Iran-Contra. Also the conspiracy theory that the Reagan/Bush administration traded weapons for hostages was debunked and shown to be false. The later sale of weapons to Iran was purely an effort to generate money to fund the Contras.

    6. Re:This is so fucked up by ChaoticLimbs · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Ha ha. Innovation at its finest- A leftist liberal who hates the military and George W. Bush. Your post seethes with youthful hatred of the military. Maybe I am more sensitive to it as a veteran. Who knows.
      Let me enlighten you a bit- there are bad men out there in the real world (outside the US), and they do some very bad things to other people. The human animal can be the worst one in many ways, and ignoring them does not make them stop. In some cases, you have to kill them. Arguing in a forum will not change it. Protest signs won't change it. Sometimes you just have to kill people and break things.

    7. Re:This is so fucked up by Pengo · · Score: 1

      " ... and then you get all their oil as a bonus for your good deeds. Coincidentally, of course."

      The figures I have seen, as far as what we have spent, we can pump for a long time at a huge premium and we will never pay back the cost of the war with their oil. Why do you think the govt. is edgy even about 20 million dollar LOAN in rebuilding, but leaning against it. That argument is pretty ignorant.

  12. Space Shuttle Simulator by baldass_newbie · · Score: 1

    Like this?
    Or this?

    Google is your friend.

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  13. OPEN GL Problem by adamy · · Score: 1

    I finally tried to get this to run.

    $ apps/armyops/armyops
    GL_EXT_bgra not supported - bailing out.

    History:

    Exiting due to error

    Here is my setup.
    ATI all in wonder running Debian, XFree86

    XFree86 Version 4.2.1.1 (Debian 4.2.1-12.1 20031003005825

    This seems to be a supported extension, according to most docs.

    Do I really need xfree 4.3? Or is this a config value somewhere?

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    1. Re:OPEN GL Problem by Lukey+Boy · · Score: 1

      The DRI drivers cause problems with the ATI cards concerning the game. I used the ATI binary drivers with XFree 4.3 on my 9800 Pro and had no problems.

    2. Re:OPEN GL Problem by adamy · · Score: 1

      I'm just a little concerned that I'll do all this switching around :ATI drivers, recompile the Kernel etc and I'll just end up trashing my system without actually getting the game to work.

      Are the Binary ATI Drivers GPL legal?

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  14. Recruitment Campaigns by jobbleberry · · Score: 1

    Hey why shouldn't it work for the army, I mean according to all the parents out there GTA has been a great recruitment campaign for Crime :)

    1. Re:Recruitment Campaigns by The+Munger · · Score: 1

      And as the freaks^H^H^H^H^H^Hparents failed to mention, Dance Dance Revolution has got all the kids going dancing every night. Pikmin as got them out in the garden turning all the rocks over. Super Monkey Ball has got 'em putting their pets in beach balls and hurling them around the back yard. SimCity has made it "cool" to be a civil servant in local government. Railroad Tycoon has seen a whole bunch of us invest in the thriving rail industry. I can't take this horned hat off my head after playing ICO for 5 god-damn minutes. And as for Vib Ribbon... You know what? I don't know what the hell Vib Ribbon has done to me, but it sure as hell can't be good.

      Help me parents of America. I can't distinguish between reality and a friggin' CRT. I'm idolizing fast, furry, blue hedgehogs and Italian plumbing families. You know why? Because you guys seem to think that I'm the friggin' mental case. Well let me know how it all works out for you.

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    2. Re:Recruitment Campaigns by Mike+Hawk · · Score: 1

      The obvious flaw in your arguement is that noone is playing Pikmin or Super Monkey Ball because they are only on Gamecube.

  15. Gov't not supporting gratuitous or illegal actions by AHumbleOpinion · · Score: 1

    The folks in Congress are typically complaining about senseless, gratuitous, and illegal (if the portrayed act occured in real world, not that the game itself is illegal) forms of violence. Military actions conducted by the US tend not to fall into those categories. Military training seeks to prevent such violence. There is no inherent hypocracy. Add to this the fact that the goal of some military actions is to break things not kill people. Killing enemy soldiers is somethimes a last resort. Better to deprive him of weapons, ammunition, and other supplies, and coerce him into surrenderng.

  16. Re:Gov't not supporting gratuitous or illegal acti by drix · · Score: 1

    The folks in Congress are typically complaining about senseless, gratuitous, and illegal ... Military actions conducted by the US tend not to fall into those categories

    Stated as fact, but very much a matter of opinion. And Congress doesn't compain because of gratuitous violence in and of itself, but rather because it believes they predispose players to violent, antisocial behavior at a subconscious level. To then turn around and harness that very effect to fill up some recruiting roster is at once cynical, totally lacking inner logic and, yes, hypocritical.

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  17. Is this v2.0 very different from the original? by antdude · · Score: 1

    I played the first version. How much has this game changed? Is it worth checking it out?

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    1. Re:Is this v2.0 very different from the original? by Numeric · · Score: 1

      Like most of the previous releases the developers are experiencing SERIOUS problems again. Each time you play a game, you will have to login which is automatically done for you. However the login servers are overloaded and a large percentage of players are unable to play. Matter of fact, I have been unable to play since Thursday. Once the game was announced players were overwhelming the site looking for 2.0 release.

      Since there has been major problems with each release, I honestly think the developers really have no idea what they are doing. If you are going to develop an online game, dont go out and hire a team who has never built a online game. But you know how the gov't works, someone is friends with someone who donated money to their campaign or were buddy-buddy.

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  18. Re:FPS or FUD? by addaon · · Score: 1

    "Killing is justifiable" is a pretty strong political statement. It may be a commonly held one (what part of "thou shall not kill" don't radical christians understand?), but that does not diminish the fact that it is a polarizing, non-universal, politcal view.

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  19. You still aren't making any sense by Saganaga · · Score: 1

    Again, I ask you, if "right and wrong, good and evil, in the bigger picture do not exist", then why do you care what our country does? You obviously do believe in right and wrong, even if you won't admit it.

    Your "personal view is that no one should make another suffer"--ok, that's nice, but why? Honestly, think about why you believe this. And moreover, why should anyone else have to follow your ideas? After all, in your world if I believe that it is our duty to make other people suffer, then you can't really tell me that my view is wrong, because you don't believe in right and wrong (remember?)

    You've really dug yourself into a corner. If you want to argue about whether you think the U.S. position is right or not, that's an argument worth having. But if you don't want to even admit that you believe in right vs. wrong, then I'm sorry, I can't be bothered to waste any more time on a pathetic excuse for an argument like that.

    Later.

  20. Re:FPS or FUD? by BrookHarty · · Score: 1

    Dont look at it as "Killing is justifiable" but as defending and protecting. While the US might be selective at both, this game is not about politics, its about tactics and teamwork. Like most military training, they train you to do a task, follow orders, not give you the poltical ramifications on peoples religion and the orbit of the moon.

    Sometimes a sim is a sim, a game a game. GTA3 wasnt a training aid to kill police, Americas Army isnt a brain washing tool with a political agenda. We have CNN/Fox news for that.

  21. Tried it this morning and seems dog slow by Phil+John · · Score: 1

    ...seriously, it's practially unplayable on my system (which is no slouch and easily exceeds the minimum recommended requirments stated on their website, Athlon 1800XP+, GeForce4 64mb gfx card, 1024 Mb ram). I've been running the 1.90 client for a little while and that was silky smoothe. Now, I hear bullets and can't turn round in time to take the person out, the whole system becomes jerky and unresponsive. Granted this is a first release, but seriously, playability of it sucks. The new maps, however, are very cool...but I'm waiting until 2.01 irons out all of the bugs and performance problems.

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  22. Re:Gov't not supporting gratuitous or illegal acti by DAldredge · · Score: 1

    No, members of Congress complain because it will get them votes. The do not want to fix the issue. If they did they would past stupid laws that say if someone looks under the age of 18, the picture is childporn, even if they person is over the age of 18.

    You are making the mistake that Congress is about getting things done, it isn't. It is about insuring that those currently in Congress, stay in congress.

    "and Congress doesn't compain because of gratuitous violence in and of itself, but rather because it believes they predispose players to violent, antisocial behavior at a subconscious level"

  23. Re:Gov't not supporting gratuitous or illegal acti by AHumbleOpinion · · Score: 1

    ... they predispose players to violent, antisocial behavior at a subconscious level. To then turn around and harness that very effect to fill up some recruiting roster is at once cynical, totally lacking inner logic and, yes, hypocritical

    "Violence". Gratuitous and unnecessary violence is something military training seeks to prevent. The violence is a means to a specific goal, it tends to be highly controlled and limited in scope. Keep in mind the goal is not necessarily to kill enemy troops. The preferred solution is to destroy their weapons and deprive them of communications, ammunition, and other necessities in order to coerce them into surrender. I realize that it goes contrary to an endless stream of action movies that feed most people's perception of the military but the last thing the typical US soldier wants to do is pull the trigger. What gets him to pull the trigger is not some form of blood lust or brain washing but the genuine fear the he and his fellow soldiers are in immediate danger.

    "Antisocial Behavior". By definition military action is social behavior. Both in the group sense and social norms sense. People with criminal, violent, and antisocial tendencies are refused enlistment. People with an inability to conform to regulations or follow orders tend to be discharged or see the stockade, not combat. An antisocial violent soldier is a danger to his own unit.

  24. What a have... by node159 · · Score: 1

    Tell the poor me to some one else, we know your just as guilty as 'the enemey'....

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  25. Re:FPS or FUD? by benna · · Score: 1

    So what do you suppose it IS for if its not for propoganda purposes? Why would they spend money just to make a game? It may be just for recruiting but thats propogranda to really.

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