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A Robot Carries Humans, Another One Plays Flute

Roland Piquepaille writes "The New Scientist says that a robot able to carry humans was demonstrated in Tokyo. The robot, developed at Waseda University in Tokyo and the Japanese robotics company tmsuk, 'uses 12 actuators to move forwards, backwards and sideways while carrying an adult weighing up to 60 kilograms (130 pounds).' It will be used 'in the fields of welfare, as an alternative to wheelchairs, which can go up and down stairs.' The Takanishi Laboratory carries other projects, including a flutist robot. More details and references are contained in this overview, which also includes a picture of the flutist robot in concert."

117 comments

  1. I am the pusher robot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I push people down the stairs.

    I am the shover robot - I shove people down the stairs

    1. Re:I am the pusher robot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    2. Re:I am the pusher robot by Bagels · · Score: 1
      No, it's "I am the shover robot - I shove bread down their throats."

      We are here to protect you.

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    3. Re:I am the pusher robot by jovlinger · · Score: 1

      the pusher robot shoves
      the shover robot pushes

      Do you have stairs in your house?

    4. Re:I am the pusher robot by Saeger · · Score: 1
      Lamest. Meme. Ever.

      (Glad it's dead.)

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    5. Re:I am the pusher robot by Guppy06 · · Score: 1

      "I push people down the stairs."

      Do you then blame it on the dog?

      I'm beginning to like this kid...

    6. Re:I am the pusher robot by TyrranzzX · · Score: 1

      No, pushing the humans down the stares is the way to save them from the teereble secret of time and space.

      No, Shoving the humans is the answer

      No, pushing them is

      No, shoving

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      Either way, we're fucked.

  2. So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One step closer to making all those giant robot animes a reality !

  3. Feather humans by plip · · Score: 3, Funny


    Great, at 130 pounds the American population is out of luck.

    1. Re:Feather humans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I, for one, welcome our giant-yet-weak mech overlords.

  4. 130 lbs? by Valiss · · Score: 4, Funny

    while carrying an adult weighing up to 60 kilograms (130 pounds)

    Only 130lbs?! Looks like I'll be carrying the robot on my way out of the burning building.

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    1. Re:130 lbs? by LousyPhreak · · Score: 0

      or it might be a ?good? reason to shape up ;)

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    2. Re:130 lbs? by Shark · · Score: 1

      Our hydromas model has been able to do that for a while now, though it doesn't have a seat so it wouldn't be too comfortable.

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    3. Re:130 lbs? by 8tim8 · · Score: 2, Funny

      The idea is to buy two and have them carry you in a kind of sling between them, a la ancient Egyptian royalty. Perhaps another could be modified to gently wave a plam frond at you.

  5. Sw33t... by OtakuHawk · · Score: 1

    If it can teach Physics, then my Physics teacher has now been outsourced..

  6. No knees by penguinoid · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sorry, mr robot, without knees having legs is probably worse than wheels.

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    1. Re:No knees by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The legs are telescoping not static length.

    2. Re:No knees by penguinoid · · Score: 1

      I see. That's not as bad as I thought, then, but is still wose than knees. Knees would allow it to climb steps

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  7. RE: A robot carries humans by Amsterdam+Vallon · · Score: 0

    Anyone else think that they meant "carry" as in a woman carrying a human child in her placenta?

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  8. Great! by Pingular · · Score: 1

    a robot able to carry humans was demonstrated in Tokyo
    I know of another robot that can carry humans AND at up to speeds of 300mph. It's called a car.

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    1. Re:Great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really? And is your "robot" able to not crash into firm immovable objects without you turning the steering wheel and pushing the pedals?

    2. Re:Great! by CausticWindow · · Score: 1

      Yeah.. and the remote controlled things they play with in robot wars are also robots!

      Dude, lay of the brown blotters.

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    3. Re:Great! by Pingular · · Score: 1

      Really? And is your "robot" able to not crash into firm immovable objects without you turning the steering wheel and pushing the pedals?
      Yes.

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    4. Re:Great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The "robot" described in the article doesn't steer itself, either. It's remote controlled, and they plan to add a joystick so that the rider can steer.

      So, a car is every bit as much of a "robot" as is this walking "wheel"chair.

  9. Been there, done that. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Somewhere, Dean Kamen is scoffing mightily.

    http://www.msnbc.com/news/285231.asp

  10. wow. by RevRa · · Score: 1

    Pretty neat. I wonder how long before they combine this with a realdoll? Think of the possibilities! :-)

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    1. Re:wow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which Robot?

      The walking one, or the flute playing one?

    2. Re:wow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Duh. The (skin)flute playing one.

  11. Does it play the skin flute? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That'd be a big seller.

  12. Do you have stairs in your house? by Fancia · · Score: 1

    We must protect you from the terrible secret of space.

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  13. Get in and out of bed by hermango · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What is needed is a robot that will help disabled people get in and out of bed. My aunt has a disabled child who is wheelchair bound and needs help getting in and out of bed. So when they get an all-purpose walking/moving/assisting robot that will do those tasks, then they'll have something with a BIG market!

    1. Re:Get in and out of bed by nfk · · Score: 2, Funny

      Forget disabled people! I'd love to have a device to get out of bed myself.

    2. Re:Get in and out of bed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      It's called an alarm clock, fatty.

      Fatty boom batty.

  14. Just Imagine a Beowulf Cluster Of These... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...would be able to carry your average slashdotter!

  15. 130 lbs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Guess it won't be carrying Taco or any other fat geeks.

  16. MOD PARENT UP! Brilliant application for robots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As someone who has worked with the disabled in nursing homes and hospice care, I can only say that this is a BRILLIANT idea. You can not imagine how difficult it is to care for people who through mental or physical disability can not lift themselves. Forget the Roomba, a robot for assisting the disabled in moving and transferring would be a real, true blessing.

  17. Buncha Jerks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Damn people ... all I hear is negativity ... ever heard of baby steps? in my eyes, this is freakin amazing ... pretty soon we'll have alien/matrix like exo-skeletons, and they were born out of clumsy robots with no knees.

    1. Re:Buncha Jerks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I see you automated the just-tick-the-Anonymous-Coward-button. How's that working out for you?

  18. Guess they let the intern write this one. by Kaboom13 · · Score: 1

    Is it just me, or does this article sound like it was written by a five year old?

  19. I'M BUYING ONE... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...when they teach them to play a skin-flute.

  20. I want one that can carry me and play my flute !!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well I can dream ;-)

  21. 60 kilograms? by skaffen42 · · Score: 1

    So it's not going to be much use over here in McUSA then... :)

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    1. Re:60 kilograms? by gardyloo · · Score: 1

      That's because we can't convert from kg to lb!

    2. Re:60 kilograms? by penguinoid · · Score: 1

      Ahem. Convert from lb to kg

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    3. Re:60 kilograms? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why? They measured it in kilos already... You should RTFA, sunshine.

  22. Is it expensive ? by jdifool · · Score: 1
    Coz I'd like to rent both of them for my grandma's funerals...

    jdif

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  23. What? by zephc · · Score: 1

    A robot that can carry me? And here I am, using my OWN legs like a chump.

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  24. Bit late isnt it? by herulach · · Score: 4, Informative

    Surely this Covers the climbing up stairs thing, not to mention the reaching high places, as well as not looking quite so conspicuous as being carried round by a dirty great robot when youre out shopping.

  25. welfare? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    "will be used 'in the fields of welfare, as an alternative to wheelchairs"

    How can a cool expensive robot like that be used for welfare? Are they giving them away to crippled children in vietnam, who has had their legs blown off by a mine? While that certainly would be nice, I can think of better use of the money for the same purpose: buying 100 times more wheelchairs to the children.

    1. Re:welfare? by bug-eyed+monster · · Score: 1

      I'm guessing by "welfare" they really mean "healthcare." Looks like that quote comes from this page. That organization is Japanese and it's possible they don't quite understand the meaning of some English words. To some people for whom English is a foreign language, "welfare" sounds like "well fare" or the pursuit of making sick people well, so they assume "welfare" is the same as "healthcare." Basically, it's the internet being the meeting place of people from many cultures. Give them the benefit of doubt... Just a thought.

    2. Re:welfare? by BJH · · Score: 1

      The Japanese word they'd be using is 'fukushi', which is generally translated as 'welfare'.

    3. Re:welfare? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're probably right, but for the records (!) I'm Swedish :-)

    4. Re:welfare? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Could have many meanings though?

  26. Actually, there is one American this will work for by unassimilatible · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Actually, he's only 120, and I think he likes robots too.

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  27. Wheelchairs that can climb stairs already invented by diamond0 · · Score: 2, Informative
    Wheelchairs can climb stairs

    same technology, inventor, and company as the Segway.

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  28. Oh Oh, You Know Where This is Going? by Greyfox · · Score: 5, Funny

    Pretty soon they'll be wanting voting rights and they'll be forming unions. Then Ford will have to outsource their car manufacturing overseas where the robots work for less and aren't held to the same stringent emissions standards we have here. It's just a downward spiral from here, folks...

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  29. max weight 130 lbs? by diamond0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Don't most adult humans weigh more than 130 pounds?

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    1. Re:max weight 130 lbs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most japanese don't.

    2. Re:max weight 130 lbs? by penguinoid · · Score: 1, Funny

      Disabled people tend to weigh less. Unless they excercise, of course :-)

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    3. Re:max weight 130 lbs? by foniksonik · · Score: 1

      Not in Japan!

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  30. Ahh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I sure wouldn't like to see when the robot goes frenzy on the poor old sods.

    *BZZZT* "Kill all humans!"

    I always said that they would get the crippled and weak ones first.

  31. Is it just me, or... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...shouldn't a scientist know that they're referred to as "flautists?"

  32. High center of gravity by PhotoGuy · · Score: 1

    Wow, it looks like the human carrying robot has an awfully high center of gravity to me. I'd feel uncomfortable sitting up there even when it's at rest.

    I understand that for climbing stairs and such, some extension would be required, but surely using a different kind of base (multi-sectioned telescoping sections?) would make it a little lower in general?

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    1. Re:High center of gravity by Have+Blue · · Score: 1

      It also looks like it's much taller than a wheelchair. A person unable to walk or stand would probably also be unable to get on or off of the robot without human assistance.

    2. Re:High center of gravity by penguinoid · · Score: 1

      Something like a spider would work

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  33. Re:I want one that can carry me and play my flute by MisanthropicProggram · · Score: 1

    Yuk! Not those. On the other hand, if they can make it look like Brook Burke .. ooooohhhhh

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  34. Re:Wheelchairs that can climb stairs .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    True but wheelchairs aren't very good at going down stairs... well the one I pushed the other day seemed to have a problem going back down... !

  35. Flute-playing robot? Very old-hat! by hexatron · · Score: 4, Informative

    Unbelievably old-hat. A flute-playing automaton was constructed before 1750. Search for Vaucanson (the inventor) and flute (the instrument)--it's no secret, though the current developers fail to mention this prior art.

  36. Shielding electronics by imnoteddy · · Score: 4, Informative

    I hope they are careful about shielding their electonics. I knew a guy who was a high level quadriplegic who steered his electic wheel chair with his chin. One day he was in a subway station and as a train came up the strong electromagnetic fields caused his chair to go geserk. He was *very* frightened. Someone grabbed his chair and turned it off.

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    1. Re:Shielding electronics by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1
      While I feel very sorry for your friend who had the misfortune to be in this situation, and while I hope you don't perceive this post as a troll, I do have to admit this is one of the funniest things I've pictured in my mind in the past month.

      Just some guy in a subway waiting for a train in an electric wheelchair, and then suddenly having the wheelchair go nuts and start spinning and moving all over the place makes me fall to the ground laughing every time I think it over in my head.

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  37. Works for Me! by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 1

    I'm a slim 120 Lbs. Looks like I'm getting out alive!

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  38. Re:Flute-playing robot? Very old-hat! by _Sexy_Pants_ · · Score: 1

    Old hat? Look, the bowler never goes out of style. In fact, I'm proud to see that robots are starting to sport them too

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  39. The time is nigh... by damiena · · Score: 3, Funny

    They came, they carried, they conquered.

  40. alternate pic by binarybum · · Score: 5, Funny

    A better image is available here.

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  41. GORT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Klaatu barada nikto!

  42. heh by ShadowRage · · Score: 1

    I'm 140 lbs...

    damnit.

    now I cant have a robot I can ride to do all the dirty work.

  43. Vaucanson (As seen in Mason & Dixon) by agrippa_cash · · Score: 1

    This is certainly interesting, but people have been building single task robots for over 200 years.We really should have mechas by now.

    1. Re:Vaucanson (As seen in Mason & Dixon) by Neop2Lemus · · Score: 0

      Mecha like these?

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    2. Re:Vaucanson (As seen in Mason & Dixon) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, not like thodp;oafldja;la'gb

  44. Flutist robot by essreenim · · Score: 1

    The flute robot for me is far more impressive. It uses more intricate actuators, like fingers. It obviously has to to this quickly and precisely to play the flute properly - cool

  45. Read that as ... by RebelWithoutAClue · · Score: 1
    ... in fields of warfare, instead of wheelchairs.

    ...mumble....coffee...mumble...late night....

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  46. you insensitive clod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, I guess there's no point in making a robot that can carry people without working legs, since you have a pair.

    When are you showing up to take us all out shopping?

  47. 130 pounds? by iantri · · Score: 1

    I know the Japanese are fairly small (in general), but only up to 130 pounds??

    Yikes!

  48. Reversal in evolution? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Up to a few decades ago, the bigger and stronger you were, the more chance you had to survive. But now, the smaller you are the less power you'll need from your assistive technologies to support you, and the longer you will last.

  49. A very important step forward by cdn-programmer · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The comments I read were really lame. This is an important step forward folks.

    A practical walking machine should probably have 6 legs and be able to trott like a horse. Imagine how useful such a machine would be for mineral exploration. When such a machine can scale a scree slope then this means that mankind will not have to hike in 20 miles in order to check out a claim.

    A machine that can walk over windfalls would be more fun than a bike.

    I think the OpenSource community can program one. But I've not heard of any takers. If we could even simulate a walking machine we'd be well on the way because actually building the actuators is not going to be very difficult... what is difficult is writing the code to control them.

  50. these "robots" had already existed by sewagemaster · · Score: 1

    "forwards, backwards and sideways while carrying an adult weighing up to 60 kilograms (130 pounds)"

    includes a picture of the flutist robot in concert

    i thought they already had one, called the realdoll? :D

  51. Flutist? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When did that become an acceptable spelling? I alsways thought it was 'flautist'. *sigh*

  52. The fluitist is a fake... by KiDas · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I think they have everyone fooled. Note the speakers and subwoofer at the bottom of the pic. ;) Why whould a flute playing robot need speakers?

    Seriously though, this is very impressive. From the lung to the lips and mouth like piece that makes the air come out is if from a normal mouth, it's amazing. I'd like to hear how it sounds and I'd be interested in the software that was made to convert the midi notes into breath strength/time and the finger movements.

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    1. Re:The fluitist is a fake... by Technician · · Score: 1

      I think they have everyone fooled. Note the speakers and subwoofer at the bottom of the pic. ;) Why whould a flute playing robot need speakers?

      Wrong,

      Go back and finish the article. It's part of the lung breath control. Since when does a subwoofer reproduce flute tones? If there were midrange and tweeters, then I might suspect foul play. In paticular, look at figure 7 labled vibrating mechanism. It's for expression and vibrato.

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  53. Robotica by DoctorScooby · · Score: 0

    Robots. One acts as a wheelchair to carry handicapped people around, walking up stairs, etc., while the other plays the flute in a band. Every time I see the useful functions of robots I get worried. I'm a Luddite -- or should I say somewhat self-protective of the human race. I'm not scared of Aibo or the Honda Sapien, they just walk around and look human. But when I see robots replacing human beings, I worry that we're one step closer to obsolesence. We are replaceable by robots which will soon be superior to us in every way. I just hope they don't think like humans, or they will perform ethnic cleansing on us. Will robots have their own Darwinian philosopher advocating survival of the fittest?

    I'd better ask Cory Doctorow, or better yet, Ray Kurzweil.

  54. Vaucanson book and Pathetic by hexatron · · Score: 1

    There is a good pretty-new book about old automata--Gaby Woods "Edison's Eve" (at Amazon). It mentions the Japanese flute-player--apparently the Japanese researcher simply didn't believe Vaucanson was possible
    How could they not have researched previous art before starting the flute-player in 1990? Duplicating a 252-year-old invention is pathetic. And it seems, except for replacing adjustible cams with computer control and adding motors, that is all the Japanese did.

  55. Uhm, compatable hardware? by zCyl · · Score: 1

    I think the OpenSource community can program one. But I've not heard of any takers. If we could even simulate a walking machine we'd be well on the way because actually building the actuators is not going to be very difficult... what is difficult is writing the code to control them.

    Find us a hundred copies of the same robot at an affordable price. Until then the open source development model isn't really going to work like it does with computers.

  56. Adult? by Espectr0 · · Score: 0, Redundant

    carrying an adult weighing up to 60 kilograms (130 pounds).

    What "adult" weighs 60 kilos? Guess the "wear-pocket-protector-to-protect-their-pocket-pro tector) type

    1. Re:Adult? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've never weighed over 120lbs, as a lot of girls/women I know. . guess we know who the robots will be saving! ;P

  57. I can't believe no one has noticed this yet.... by ziggy_zero · · Score: 1

    it's FLOUTIST!

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    1. Re:I can't believe no one has noticed this yet.... by dtiberius · · Score: 1
      Actually, it's "flautist."

      If you're going to be pedantic, at least be right.

  58. That was me! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sorry - it's the first time I've hit a mod score of 5 before :-)

    Should have registered instead of being a/c though.

  59. for the uninitiated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=287

    and i'd also just like to say, LOL! 5 golden manbabies!

  60. Robot that acts as a wheelchair? by rolocroz · · Score: 1

    Dean Kamen, the guy who invented the Segway, also created the IBOT, a wheelchair that can climb stairs and rise up to put disabled people at eye level of standing people. It's a pretty amazing invention. Did I mention that it can hold up to 250 pounds?

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  61. If They Ever Allied with... by Monkey+Liar · · Score: 1

    the Daleks from Doctor who, not even stairs will save us from extermination!

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  62. Disappointed! by payndz · · Score: 1

    Although the pic shows it's a walking wheelchair, I was hoping for an Asimo-type bot that would save the pretty Japanese girl from a burning building, give a thumbs-up to the cameras and then down a bottle of Olde Fortran before activating its death ray eyes and going on a killing spree. Oh my, yes...

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  63. Military applications anyone? by DominicDuval · · Score: 1

    Scale this thing 10 times larger, attach a couple of guns, put a soldier in it and you're ready to shoot a lot of sentinels :)

  64. Average Japanese Mass( in kg) by oddmake · · Score: 1

    just for your reference.

    Japanese Resource for average mass

    English translation

    # all numbers are killo

    Generally,60kg(130lbs)lift strength is not enough for Japanese men.(Good for Japanese women)]

  65. A flute playing robot you say? by disntrstd · · Score: 1

    I've been waiting for one of these all my life. It seems like women have finally become obsolete. I just wonder if any of the lab technicians have discovered any of the "alternate" uses for this fantastic robot.

  66. roujin z by dtiberius · · Score: 1
    hmmm.

    Roujin Z anyone? Better think twice before giving this to the senile elderly.

    1. Re:roujin z by dnahelix · · Score: 1

      I recently saw this movie and really enjoyed it.
      The anime was a little weak, but kind of an interesting style, and the English VO was kind of blah
      I think it would have been better if Katsuhiro Otomo had also directed it.
      ... aka Rojin Z (/. is weak, won't let me put the ^ over the o)

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  67. Missing the point by stjobe · · Score: 1

    I think you're missing the point with the carrying robot -- it is biped.
    Yes, take a look at that photo again, and count the legs. One, two.

    "I believe this biped robot, which I prefer to call a two-legged walking chair rather than a wheelchair, will eventually enable people to go up and down the stairs," said Atsuo Takanishi, from Waseda University.

    Sure, it can only carry 60 kg.
    Sure, it can only lift it's legs a few millimetres at the moment.
    But damn! It's biped and it's capable of carrying a (shifting weight) human in a chair on top!

    That's impressive if anything is.

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  68. This was foretold in Lessor Revelations by ElHorrendo · · Score: 1
    As most of you know the flute playing robot was foretold in Lesser Revelations 1:824
    [am] he that liveth and come unto you breathing the steely pipe, I am dead but behold I stand beside you evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and the mournful wail
    This means we have but one year before the arrival of bagpipe player L-Revelations 1:873:
    [am] he that liveth and come unto you breathing the bag of stick, I am dead but lead the march upon you evermore, Amen; by two we herald the armies of the undead
    The end draws near brothers and sisters.